General Giap, Vietnam's master guerilla, dies aged 102

[bornright]

Damn....102


Outlived all those who wanted to see him dead

I for one am still alive and I believe there are many others.

 

[BlindBoo]

Giap was the greatest guerilla leader of the 20th century, and he defeated the French and the USA.

Eagle is in mourning.

Actually, we won all of the battles, but the anti-war crowd and the Democrat Congress won the war for Giap.

Only to abandon the ground so many died to take.

Search, Destroy and retreat was a failed strategy.

 

[BullKurtz]

General Giap, Vietnam's master guerilla, dies aged 102 | News | DW.DE | 04.10.2013

among others. One less communist murderer among us.

You are beneath contempt.

Neither Secretary Kerry, or Jane Fonda ever expressed affection General Giap. Neither Secretary Kerry or Ms. Fonda are Communists.

Let me remind you that bush43 is a deserter.

Let me remind you that cheney was a drafter dodger.

You got down on your knees give them blow jobs.

Both Kerry and Fonda were communist dupes....Jane sitting on an NVA AA gun and handing over a POW note to his captors. Kerry met with NVA officials in Paris while still in the Naval Reserve....a clear act of treason. Incidentally, Kerry disappeared from his Reserve duties, never fullfilling his committment and therefore a "deserter" more so than Bush ever was. Kerry was more duty-bound than Bush to complete his Reserves obligation since it got him out of Vietnam. Cheney had children...few if any with kids got drafted. Asshole.

 

[Sallow]

General Giap, Vietnam's master guerilla, dies aged 102 | News | DW.DE | 04.10.2013

among others. One less communist murderer among us.

Wow.

102..

 

[Sallow]

General Giap, Vietnam's master guerilla, dies aged 102 | News | DW.DE | 04.10.2013

among others. One less communist murderer among us.

You are beneath contempt.

Neither Secretary Kerry, or Jane Fonda ever expressed affection General Giap. Neither Secretary Kerry or Ms. Fonda are Communists.

Let me remind you that bush43 is a deserter.

Let me remind you that cheney was a drafter dodger.

You got down on your knees give them blow jobs.

Both Kerry and Fonda were communist dupes....Jane sitting on an NVA AA gun and handing over a POW note to his captors. Kerry met with NVA officials in Paris while still in the Naval Reserve....a clear act of treason. Incidentally, Kerry disappeared from his Reserve duties, never fullfilling his committment and therefore a "deserter" more so than Bush ever was. Kerry was more duty-bound than Bush to complete his Reserves obligation since it got him out of Vietnam. Cheney had children...few if any with kids got drafted. Asshole.

That's a pretty unique perspective.

A guy that actually spilled blood for this country is a "deserter"..

Glad the military didn't see it that way.

 

[Sallow]

Giap was the greatest guerilla leader of the 20th century, and he defeated the French and the USA.

Eagle is in mourning.

Actually, we won all of the battles, but the anti-war crowd and the Democrat Congress won the war for Giap.

Only to abandon the ground so many died to take.

Search, Destroy and retreat was a failed strategy.

The whole war was a failed strategy and a betrayal. The Viet Cong helped the US during WWII against the Japanese.

 

[BullKurtz]

You are beneath contempt.

Neither Secretary Kerry, or Jane Fonda ever expressed affection General Giap. Neither Secretary Kerry or Ms. Fonda are Communists.

Let me remind you that bush43 is a deserter.

Let me remind you that cheney was a drafter dodger.

You got down on your knees give them blow jobs.

Both Kerry and Fonda were communist dupes....Jane sitting on an NVA AA gun and handing over a POW note to his captors. Kerry met with NVA officials in Paris while still in the Naval Reserve....a clear act of treason. Incidentally, Kerry disappeared from his Reserve duties, never fullfilling his committment and therefore a "deserter" more so than Bush ever was. Kerry was more duty-bound than Bush to complete his Reserves obligation since it got him out of Vietnam. Cheney had children...few if any with kids got drafted. Asshole.

That's a pretty unique perspective.

A guy that actually spilled blood for this country is a "deserter"..

Glad the military didn't see it that way.

Back-shot a kid with a malfunctioning RPG...then took his boat back to the spot the next day to REENACT his "bravery" on film, wrote his own after-action report, and put himself in for a Silver Star. There were more than a few ticket-punchers like that sorry asshole in the ROV. And more than a few of them never made it back to the bird...."friendly fire" is how it was classified.

 

[BullKurtz]

Actually, we won all of the battles, but the anti-war crowd and the Democrat Congress won the war for Giap.

Only to abandon the ground so many died to take.

Search, Destroy and retreat was a failed strategy.

The whole war was a failed strategy and a betrayal. The Viet Cong helped the US during WWII against the Japanese.

They were known "Viet Minh" during and after WW2 and there is no evidence Japanese forces were ever fired upon by Vietnamese cadre.

 

[JoeB131]

Damn....102


Outlived all those who wanted to see him dead

Holy Shit, he was still alive?

It was like when King Kong came out, and they mentioned that Fay Wray had died a few months after it premiered and she got to see the new version at 90.

Some people you are shocked when they die.

Some people you assumed had died, and then you are shocked they were still alive when they do.

Now, if we can only FINALLY get over Vietnam.

 

[JoeB131]

Damn....102


Outlived all those who wanted to see him dead

Wrong. Just sorry I didn't get to kill him. Slowly.

Why?

Because he beat you?

 

[Pauli007001]

A soldier died, past his time.
I will drink to your memory.

I will remember others with greater affection.

 

[rightwinger]

Regardless of what side he was on....the guy was one hell of a General

 

[JoeB131]

Regardless of what side he was on....the guy was one hell of a General

debatable.

Dienbenphu- brilliant strategy.

Tet Offensive. Not so much.

 

[R.C. Christian]

Regardless of what side he was on....the guy was one hell of a General

I'm sure he was comrade.

 

[Old Rocks]

Giap may have lost Tet, but he caused a lot of Americans to take a good look at why we were there, and what we could expect to happen there. That was the beginning of the end of our involvlement there.

Whatever you think about Giap's politics, he was a brilliant general.

 

[rightwinger]

Regardless of what side he was on....the guy was one hell of a General

debatable.

Dienbenphu- brilliant strategy.

Tet Offensive. Not so much.

Designed the Ho Chi Minh trail. Was able to fight effectively in the face of massive US technological superiority

 

[Old Rocks]

Regardless of what side he was on....the guy was one hell of a General

I'm sure he was comrade.

I am sure you are the fool your posts indicate.

 

[namvet]

just another slope head dead

 

[TooTall]

You are beneath contempt.

Neither Secretary Kerry, or Jane Fonda ever expressed affection General Giap. Neither Secretary Kerry or Ms. Fonda are Communists.

Let me remind you that bush43 is a deserter.

Let me remind you that cheney was a drafter dodger.

You got down on your knees give them blow jobs.

Both Kerry and Fonda were communist dupes....Jane sitting on an NVA AA gun and handing over a POW note to his captors. Kerry met with NVA officials in Paris while still in the Naval Reserve....a clear act of treason. Incidentally, Kerry disappeared from his Reserve duties, never fullfilling his committment and therefore a "deserter" more so than Bush ever was. Kerry was more duty-bound than Bush to complete his Reserves obligation since it got him out of Vietnam. Cheney had children...few if any with kids got drafted. Asshole.

That's a pretty unique perspective.

A guy that actually spilled blood for this country is a "deserter"..

Glad the military didn't see it that way.

Kerry didn't spill very much blood.

Kerry Purple Heart Doc Speaks Out
The medical description of his first wound.

Some critics of Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry have questioned the circumstances surrounding the first of three Purple Hearts Kerry won in Vietnam. Those critics, among them some of Kerry's fellow veterans, have suggested that a wound suffered by Kerry in December 1968 may have made him technically eligible for a Purple Heart but was not severe enough to warrant serious consideration, even for a decoration that was handed out by the thousands. Whatever the case, Kerry was awarded the Purple Heart, and, along with two others he won later, it allowed him to request to leave Vietnam before his tour of duty was finished.

Kerry was treated for the wound at a medical facility in Cam Ranh Bay. The doctor who treated Kerry, Louis Letson, is today a retired general practitioner in Alabama. Letson says he remembers his brief encounter with Kerry 35 years ago because "some of his crewmen related that Lt. Kerry had told them that he would be the next JFK from Massachusetts." Letson says that last year, as the Democratic campaign began to heat up, he told friends that he remembered treating one of the candidates many years ago. In response to their questions, Letson says, he wrote down his recollections of the time. (Letson says he has had no contacts with anyone from the Bush campaign or the Republican party.) What follows is Letson's memory, as he wrote it.

I have a very clear memory of an incident which occurred while I was the Medical Officer at Naval Support Facility, Cam Ranh Bay.
John Kerry was a (jg), the OinC or skipper of a Swift boat, newly arrived in Vietnam. On the night of December 2, he was on patrol north of Cam Ranh, up near Nha Trang area. The next day he came to sick bay, the medical facility, for treatment of a wound that had occurred that night.

The story he told was different from what his crewmen had to say about that night. According to Kerry, they had been engaged in a fire fight, receiving small arms fire from on shore. He said that his injury resulted from this enemy action.

Some of his crew confided that they did not receive any fire from shore, but that Kerry had fired a mortar round at close range to some rocks on shore. The crewman thought that the injury was caused by a fragment ricocheting from that mortar round when it struck the rocks.

That seemed to fit the injury which I treated.

What I saw was a small piece of metal sticking very superficially in the skin of Kerry's arm. The metal fragment measured about 1 cm. in length and was about 2 or 3 mm in diameter. It certainly did not look like a round from a rifle.

I simply removed the piece of metal by lifting it out of the skin with forceps. I doubt that it penetrated more than 3 or 4 mm. It did not require probing to find it, did not require any anesthesia to remove it, and did not require any sutures to close the wound.

The wound was covered with a bandaid.
Not [sic] other injuries were reported and I do not recall that there was any reported damage to the boat.

More at Snopes http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/service.asp

 

[Sallow]

Regardless of what side he was on....the guy was one hell of a General

debatable.

Dienbenphu- brilliant strategy.

Tet Offensive. Not so much.

The Tet Offensive put on display how determined the Vietnamese were to rid their country of foreign invaders.

It wasn't a military victory..no.

But on all other counts..it was quite an achievement.