Giuliani subpoenaed by House for documents related to Ukraine

[007]

Oh it's on now.

Absolutely. Rudy is staring right down the barrel of a few felony charges.

On what planet?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Oh it's on now.

Absolutely. Rudy is staring right down the barrel of a few felony charges.

On what planet?

Not trumpworld, that's for sure. But, here on earth, he is in legal jeopardy over campaign finance laws, corruption laws, and extortion laws.

 

[007]

Oh it's on now.

Absolutely. Rudy is staring right down the barrel of a few felony charges.

On what planet?

Not trumpworld, that's for sure. But, here on earth, he is in legal jeopardy over campaign finance laws, corruption laws, and extortion laws.

You need to get a firm grip on your ears, give a quick hard jerk, and see if you can extricate your head from your anal orifice.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Oh it's on now.

Absolutely. Rudy is staring right down the barrel of a few felony charges.

On what planet?

Not trumpworld, that's for sure. But, here on earth, he is in legal jeopardy over campaign finance laws, corruption laws, and extortion laws.

You need to get a firm grip on your ears, give a quick hard jerk, and see if you can extricate your head from your anal orifice.

Ah yes,the inevitable trump cultist hissy fit. Same thing, every time with you guys.

 

[the other mike]

When the guilty project their crimes onto their opponents and
seemingly get away with it, how do you stop that ? .

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Oh it's on now.

Absolutely. Rudy is staring right down the barrel of a few felony charges.

Like what?

.

 

[the other mike]

Of course it's the Democrats what else would we expect? YOU GET A SUBPOENA! AND YOU GET SUBPOENA!! EVERYONE GETS A SUBPOENA!!!

This is why Nancy won't hold the vote.

 

[Dick Foster]

Giuliani can and will tell them to pound sand.

...from jail.

Yeah right. Dream on shitforbrains. He's Trump's lawyer, have you never heard of immunity and privilege? Get a clue for pity sake your delusion has rotted what you may have had left of a brain.

 

[the other mike]

Giuliani can and will tell them to pound sand.

...from jail.

Yeah right. Dream on shitforbrains. He's Trump's lawyer, have you never heard of immunity and privilege? Get a clue for pity sake your delusion has rotted what you may have had left of a brain.

Trump has a team of 10 lawyers. Rudy's not
out on his own here.

 

[Dick Foster]

Schiff is no match for Rudy...Rudy will toy with him like a cat toys with a mouse....this alone is worth the price of admission.....

Agree, Shitt is no match for Rudy or anybody....

He is a match for GITMO though.

He is a traitor.

Actually Shitforbrains would be locked up in Leavenworth not Gitmo.

 

[Dick Foster]

Oh it's on now.

I was under the impression the Executive Branch doesn't have to cooperate with a Loose Cannon Legislative Branch whatsoever.

There is a separation of powers, and Schiff thinks he's the Supreme Court in one person. He should be in jail for lying the other day pretending to quote President Trump as doing something very nefarious. I cannot hide my contempt for this deranged man who creeps around setting other people up for sport.

Everybody is supposed to comply with every subpoena, regardless of who you are or who signs your paychecks; that's kind of the point. In this case, blowing it off should result in contempt of Congress, but there is debate about whether the legislative branch can compel the DOJ (part of the executive branch) to do its bidding by arresting and prosecuting someone for that charge. The end result is that it usually results in just a stern talking-to, and everyone goes on with their day.

In my humble opinion, this is stupid and it sucks. Congress needs teeth. I would like to see Capitol Police drag anyone who defies a Congressional subpoena out of their office in handcuffs, through a flash-bulbed perp walk to a waiting police van, but sadly, that hasn't happened yet.

Maybe you should learn a little something about the law before you put your mouth in gear and put your ignorance and stupidity on full public display. Anything said between a lawyer and his client is privileged communication, dumbass.

 

[Ringtone]

Schiff is no match for Rudy...Rudy will toy with him like a cat toys with a mouse....this alone is worth the price of admission.....

By all means, bring Rudy on. Leftists are such morons. The more they push this, this worse it's going to get for them, not Trump!

 

[joaquinmiller]

Oh it's on now.

I was under the impression the Executive Branch doesn't have to cooperate with a Loose Cannon Legislative Branch whatsoever.

There is a separation of powers, and Schiff thinks he's the Supreme Court in one person. He should be in jail for lying the other day pretending to quote President Trump as doing something very nefarious. I cannot hide my contempt for this deranged man who creeps around setting other people up for sport.

Everybody is supposed to comply with every subpoena, regardless of who you are or who signs your paychecks; that's kind of the point. In this case, blowing it off should result in contempt of Congress, but there is debate about whether the legislative branch can compel the DOJ (part of the executive branch) to do its bidding by arresting and prosecuting someone for that charge. The end result is that it usually results in just a stern talking-to, and everyone goes on with their day.

In my humble opinion, this is stupid and it sucks. Congress needs teeth. I would like to see Capitol Police drag anyone who defies a Congressional subpoena out of their office in handcuffs, through a flash-bulbed perp walk to a waiting police van, but sadly, that hasn't happened yet.

Maybe you should learn a little something anpbout the law before you put your mouth in gear and put your ignorance and stupidity on full public display. Anything said between a lawyer and his client is privileged communication, dumbass.

Did they skip over the Crime-Fraud Exception in law school?

 

[Dick Foster]

Oh it's on now.

I was under the impression the Executive Branch doesn't have to cooperate with a Loose Cannon Legislative Branch whatsoever.

There is a separation of powers, and Schiff thinks he's the Supreme Court in one person. He should be in jail for lying the other day pretending to quote President Trump as doing something very nefarious. I cannot hide my contempt for this deranged man who creeps around setting other people up for sport.

Everybody is supposed to comply with every subpoena, regardless of who you are or who signs your paychecks; that's kind of the point. In this case, blowing it off should result in contempt of Congress, but there is debate about whether the legislative branch can compel the DOJ (part of the executive branch) to do its bidding by arresting and prosecuting someone for that charge. The end result is that it usually results in just a stern talking-to, and everyone goes on with their day.

In my humble opinion, this is stupid and it sucks. Congress needs teeth. I would like to see Capitol Police drag anyone who defies a Congressional subpoena out of their office in handcuffs, through a flash-bulbed perp walk to a waiting police van, but sadly, that hasn't happened yet.

Maybe you should learn a little something anpbout the law before you put your mouth in gear and put your ignorance and stupidity on full public display. Anything said between a lawyer and his client is privileged communication, dumbass.

Did they skip over the Crime-Fraud Exception in law school?

Well dummy first you have to have a crime and there was none. You morons are gonna have to learn that this is the real world where facts matter not fantasy land where things aren't like you want them to be just because you want it.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

The starting bell:

Giuliani Subpoenaed by House for Documents: Impeachment Update

"President Donald Trump unleashed a torrent of tweets over the weekend attacking Democrats and demanding to meet the whistle-blower who said the president asked Ukraine’s president to dig up political dirt on Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden.
The president is portraying himself as the victim, the subject of two partisan “witch hunts” to oust him, and urging his loyal base to punish his opponents at the polls.
Here are the latest developments:
Giuliani Subpoenaed by House Panel for Documents (3:53 p.m.)
Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Guiliani was subpoenaed Monday to provide documents to Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee, as the impeachment inquiry into the president accelerates.
Three House panels said Giuliani has claimed to have text messages, phone records and other communications regarding requests for the government of Ukraine to target Biden. They set an Oct. 15 deadline.
Trump Again Promotes ‘Debunked’ Ukraine Theory (3:18 p.m.)
Trump again suggested Ukraine may have intervened in the 2016 U.S. election, one day after his former homeland security adviser said the conspiracy had been “completely debunked.”
”The new president of Ukraine ran on the basis of no corruption. That’s how he got elected. And I believe that he really means it, but there was a lot of corruption having to do with the 2016 election against us,” Trump said Monday at the White House. “And we want to get to the bottom of it, and it’s very important that we do.”
Trump has repeatedly suggested -- including in his controversial phone call with Zelenskiy -- that Ukraine or Ukrainian actors were in some way involved in the breach of a Democratic National Committee server in 2016 or the subsequent investigation of that crime.
Thomas Bossert, who served as Trump’s first homeland security adviser, said Sunday he told the president there was no basis to his theory that Ukraine was involved and added that he was “deeply disturbed” that Zelenskiy was asked to investigate the conspiracy in the leader-to-leader phone call.
“It is completely debunked,” Bossert said in an interview on ABC News’s “This Week with George Stephanopoulos.”
“I am deeply frustrated with what he and the legal team is doing and repeating that debunked theory to the president,” Bossert said. “It sticks in his mind when he hears it over and over again, and for clarity here, George, let me just again repeat that it has no validity.”"

Nadler is totally corrupt

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Oh it's on now.

I was under the impression the Executive Branch doesn't have to cooperate with a Loose Cannon Legislative Branch whatsoever.

There is a separation of powers, and Schiff thinks he's the Supreme Court in one person. He should be in jail for lying the other day pretending to quote President Trump as doing something very nefarious. I cannot hide my contempt for this deranged man who creeps around setting other people up for sport.

Everybody is supposed to comply with every subpoena, regardless of who you are or who signs your paychecks; that's kind of the point. In this case, blowing it off should result in contempt of Congress, but there is debate about whether the legislative branch can compel the DOJ (part of the executive branch) to do its bidding by arresting and prosecuting someone for that charge. The end result is that it usually results in just a stern talking-to, and everyone goes on with their day.

In my humble opinion, this is stupid and it sucks. Congress needs teeth. I would like to see Capitol Police drag anyone who defies a Congressional subpoena out of their office in handcuffs, through a flash-bulbed perp walk to a waiting police van, but sadly, that hasn't happened yet.

Maybe you should learn a little something anpbout the law before you put your mouth in gear and put your ignorance and stupidity on full public display. Anything said between a lawyer and his client is privileged communication, dumbass.

Did they skip over the Crime-Fraud Exception in law school?

No, but apparently, you did.

 

[joaquinmiller]

Oh it's on now.

I was under the impression the Executive Branch doesn't have to cooperate with a Loose Cannon Legislative Branch whatsoever.

There is a separation of powers, and Schiff thinks he's the Supreme Court in one person. He should be in jail for lying the other day pretending to quote President Trump as doing something very nefarious. I cannot hide my contempt for this deranged man who creeps around setting other people up for sport.

Everybody is supposed to comply with every subpoena, regardless of who you are or who signs your paychecks; that's kind of the point. In this case, blowing it off should result in contempt of Congress, but there is debate about whether the legislative branch can compel the DOJ (part of the executive branch) to do its bidding by arresting and prosecuting someone for that charge. The end result is that it usually results in just a stern talking-to, and everyone goes on with their day.

In my humble opinion, this is stupid and it sucks. Congress needs teeth. I would like to see Capitol Police drag anyone who defies a Congressional subpoena out of their office in handcuffs, through a flash-bulbed perp walk to a waiting police van, but sadly, that hasn't happened yet.

Maybe you should learn a little something anpbout the law before you put your mouth in gear and put your ignorance and stupidity on full public display. Anything said between a lawyer and his client is privileged communication, dumbass.

Did they skip over the Crime-Fraud Exception in law school?

Well dummy first you have to have a crime and there was none. You morons are gonna have to learn that this is the real world where facts matter not fantasy land where things aren't like you want them to be just because you want it.

I'm not an attorney, but I can tell you the Crime Fraud Exception applies to discussion of future wrongdoing, and you couldn't be more wrong in claiming one must first have a crime. The ABA was helpful enough to spell it out for you:

The attorney-client privilege is not without its costs. Since the privilege has the effect of withholding relevant information from the factfinder, it applies only where necessary to achieve its purpose. The attorney-client privilege must necessarily protect the confidences of wrongdoers, but the reason for that protection–the centrality of open client and attorney communication to the proper functioning of our adversary system of justice–ceases to operate at a certain point, namely, where the desired advice refers not to prior wrongdoing, but to future wrongdoing. It is the purpose of the crime-fraud exception to the attorney-client privilege to assure that the “seal of secrecy” between lawyer and client does not extend to communications made for the purpose of getting advice for the commission of a fraud or crime.

Tips for Addressing Crime-Fraud Exception to the Attorney-Client Privilege in Civil Cases

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Ghouliani better call in sick that day

He prosecuted actual NY Mafia captain. You think dried up democrats follow Soros's orders scare him?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

I was under the impression the Executive Branch doesn't have to cooperate with a Loose Cannon Legislative Branch whatsoever.

There is a separation of powers, and Schiff thinks he's the Supreme Court in one person. He should be in jail for lying the other day pretending to quote President Trump as doing something very nefarious. I cannot hide my contempt for this deranged man who creeps around setting other people up for sport.

Everybody is supposed to comply with every subpoena, regardless of who you are or who signs your paychecks; that's kind of the point. In this case, blowing it off should result in contempt of Congress, but there is debate about whether the legislative branch can compel the DOJ (part of the executive branch) to do its bidding by arresting and prosecuting someone for that charge. The end result is that it usually results in just a stern talking-to, and everyone goes on with their day.

In my humble opinion, this is stupid and it sucks. Congress needs teeth. I would like to see Capitol Police drag anyone who defies a Congressional subpoena out of their office in handcuffs, through a flash-bulbed perp walk to a waiting police van, but sadly, that hasn't happened yet.

Maybe you should learn a little something anpbout the law before you put your mouth in gear and put your ignorance and stupidity on full public display. Anything said between a lawyer and his client is privileged communication, dumbass.

Did they skip over the Crime-Fraud Exception in law school?

Well dummy first you have to have a crime and there was none. You morons are gonna have to learn that this is the real world where facts matter not fantasy land where things aren't like you want them to be just because you want it.

I'm not an attorney, but I can tell you the Crime Fraud Exception applies to discussion of future wrongdoing, and you couldn't be more wrong in claiming one must first have a crime. The ABA was helpful enough to spell it out for you:

The attorney-client privilege is not without its costs. Since the privilege has the effect of withholding relevant information from the factfinder, it applies only where necessary to achieve its purpose. The attorney-client privilege must necessarily protect the confidences of wrongdoers, but the reason for that protection–the centrality of open client and attorney communication to the proper functioning of our adversary system of justice–ceases to operate at a certain point, namely, where the desired advice refers not to prior wrongdoing, but to future wrongdoing. It is the purpose of the crime-fraud exception to the attorney-client privilege to assure that the “seal of secrecy” between lawyer and client does not extend to communications made for the purpose of getting advice for the commission of a fraud or crime.

Tips for Addressing Crime-Fraud Exception to the Attorney-Client Privilege in Civil Cases

The crime-fraud exception allows the attorney to make a decision whether or not to disclose confidential communications. Where normally, the attorney-client privilege is the client's privilege to assert, and the attorney has no right to wave or assert said privilege, the crime-fraud exception gives the power to disclose it.

So, it is entirely up to Rudy.

.

 

[mudwhistle]

I was under the impression the Executive Branch doesn't have to cooperate with a Loose Cannon Legislative Branch whatsoever.

There is a separation of powers, and Schiff thinks he's the Supreme Court in one person. He should be in jail for lying the other day pretending to quote President Trump as doing something very nefarious. I cannot hide my contempt for this deranged man who creeps around setting other people up for sport.

Everybody is supposed to comply with every subpoena, regardless of who you are or who signs your paychecks; that's kind of the point. In this case, blowing it off should result in contempt of Congress, but there is debate about whether the legislative branch can compel the DOJ (part of the executive branch) to do its bidding by arresting and prosecuting someone for that charge. The end result is that it usually results in just a stern talking-to, and everyone goes on with their day.

In my humble opinion, this is stupid and it sucks. Congress needs teeth. I would like to see Capitol Police drag anyone who defies a Congressional subpoena out of their office in handcuffs, through a flash-bulbed perp walk to a waiting police van, but sadly, that hasn't happened yet.

Maybe you should learn a little something anpbout the law before you put your mouth in gear and put your ignorance and stupidity on full public display. Anything said between a lawyer and his client is privileged communication, dumbass.

Did they skip over the Crime-Fraud Exception in law school?

Well dummy first you have to have a crime and there was none. You morons are gonna have to learn that this is the real world where facts matter not fantasy land where things aren't like you want them to be just because you want it.

I'm not an attorney, but I can tell you the Crime Fraud Exception applies to discussion of future wrongdoing, and you couldn't be more wrong in claiming one must first have a crime. The ABA was helpful enough to spell it out for you:

The attorney-client privilege is not without its costs. Since the privilege has the effect of withholding relevant information from the factfinder, it applies only where necessary to achieve its purpose. The attorney-client privilege must necessarily protect the confidences of wrongdoers, but the reason for that protection–the centrality of open client and attorney communication to the proper functioning of our adversary system of justice–ceases to operate at a certain point, namely, where the desired advice refers not to prior wrongdoing, but to future wrongdoing. It is the purpose of the crime-fraud exception to the attorney-client privilege to assure that the “seal of secrecy” between lawyer and client does not extend to communications made for the purpose of getting advice for the commission of a fraud or crime.

Tips for Addressing Crime-Fraud Exception to the Attorney-Client Privilege in Civil Cases

So if there is no wrongdoing can Trump talk to his lawyer???