Give A Man A Fish

[S.J.]

Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day.

Teach a man to fish, you feed him for a lifetime.

Make him a corporate fisherman, investors and CEO might let him keep one out of 10 fish he catches, and if he asks for more of his own damn fish, you call him a "Communist"!

No, he doesn't get to keep ANY of the fish he catches. They're not HIS. Not his boat, not his gear. He gets paid for his time. If that's not good enough, he can find another job. Why is it that you fail to understand even the most basic concepts?

 

[Jarhead]

Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day.

Teach a man to fish, you feed him for a lifetime.

Make him a corporate fisherman, investors and CEO might let him keep one out of 10 fish he catches, and if he asks for more of his own damn fish, you call him a "Communist"!

Exactly where in America does it say that the fisherman is forced, by law, to become a corporate fisherman?

If the man knows he will only get to keep one out of ten fish, and he opts to become a corporate fisherman anyway.......then maybe he should learn to make better decisions?

 

[auditor0007]

You're a Communist because you want to take 9 of the 10 fish from the owner of the fishing company and give them to someone else.

I want them to go to the people who actually did the work... or least the proceeds of selling the fish.

Sorry, the owner of the fishing company sitting in his office didn't catch one fucking fish. Some guy on a boat did that.

The whacky thing is, Republicans USED to understand that.

Thank you for confirming what I wrote.

And no, Republicans have never thought business owners and investors were parasites.

It's funny when a Communist says he believes in limited government. lol

I never thought you were part of the right wing nut job conspiracy theorists who believe union means communist. My mistake.

 

[LilOlLady]

Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day.

Teach a man to fish, you feed him for a lifetime.

Make him a corporate fisherman, investors and CEO might let him keep one out of 10 fish he catches, and if he asks for more of his own damn fish, you call him a "Communist"!

You're a Communist because you want to take 9 of the 10 fish from the owner of the fishing company and give them to someone else.

Tha works in a circle. Those that give, gets in return and they don't always know they are being given to. I give and I get ten times in return. Be thankful that you have 10 fish and can give 9 away.

I alway have a surplus and I share with outhers less fortunate. I prepared Eaaster dinner for 10 less fortunate people and thankful that I had one dinner left over for my self. I learned this lesson from my GOD. My cup does runneth over.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day.

Teach a man to fish, you feed him for a lifetime.

Make him a corporate fisherman, investors and CEO might let him keep one out of 10 fish he catches, and if he asks for more of his own damn fish, you call him a "Communist"!

You're a Communist because you want to take 9 of the 10 fish from the owner of the fishing company and give them to someone else.

Tha works in a circle. Those that give, gets in return and they don't always know they are being given to. I give and I get ten times in return. Be thankful that you have 10 fish and can give 9 away.

There's a huge difference between voluntarily giving away your nine fish to who you want to and having nine fish forcibly taken away to be given to whomever the government deems worthy.

 

[auditor0007]

You're a Communist because you want to take 9 of the 10 fish from the owner of the fishing company and give them to someone else.

I want them to go to the people who actually did the work... or least the proceeds of selling the fish.

Sorry, the owner of the fishing company sitting in his office didn't catch one fucking fish. Some guy on a boat did that.

Yes, but the man in the office paid for the boat, and the gas & oil to run it, the rods & reels and all the rest of the equipment on the boat, the bait, the ice to put the fish on once they're landed, and the labor for the guy to go out and catch the fish.
I'd say that makes it HIS fish, not the guy's who did the catching. The only thing the guy who caught the fish deserves is the pay that he agreed upon with the guy that sits up there in the office, and not one cent more.
If he wants fish, he has two choices. Either buy the equipment and go catch his own fish on his own time, or go to the grocery store and buy the fish.

The only problem with this is that in today's environment the owner is a corporation that doesn't think that the fisherman employee should be paid more than minimum wage, and even that is too much. And the last thing the corporation wants to see is for the fisherman to join a union so that he can have a fighting chance to negotiate for a decent wage. In the meantime, stockholders are upset because they are only seeing a 6% return on their investment which they believe is too low, so they fire the CEO and give him a $200 million golden parachute, and then the new CEO comes in and says the company needs to start cutting costs. And we wonder why the middle class is taking it up the ass.

 

[LilOlLady]

ALMSGIVING. Which I belive most of you never heard about.

Alms - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Jarhead]

Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day.

Teach a man to fish, you feed him for a lifetime.

Make him a corporate fisherman, investors and CEO might let him keep one out of 10 fish he catches, and if he asks for more of his own damn fish, you call him a "Communist"!

You're a Communist because you want to take 9 of the 10 fish from the owner of the fishing company and give them to someone else.

Tha works in a circle. Those that give, gets in return and they don't always know they are being given to. I give and I get ten times in return. Be thankful that you have 10 fish and can give 9 away.

I alway have a surplus and I share with outhers less fortunate. I prepared Eaaster dinner for 10 less fortunate people and thankful that I had one dinner left over for my self. I learned this lesson from my GOD. My cup does runneth over.

And many of us do the same.

However.....

How would you feel if you invited the needy into your home and offered them your "extras" but when it was all gone they complained that you had a little more to eat than they did?

And so they went to their local legislators and pushed for a law that said that you had to offer even MORE to the needy?

You see, conservatives believe in charity. Heck, the conservative wealthy run some of the largest philanthropic organizations in the world.

What bothers the heck out of them...and me.....is that they are told they dont give enough...or care enough....

And they are told that by legislators...who more often than not, give a lot less.

 

[LilOlLady]

You're a Communist because you want to take 9 of the 10 fish from the owner of the fishing company and give them to someone else.

Tha works in a circle. Those that give, gets in return and they don't always know they are being given to. I give and I get ten times in return. Be thankful that you have 10 fish and can give 9 away.

There's a huge difference between voluntarily giving away your nine fish to who you want to and having nine fish forcibly taken away to be given to whomever the government deems worthy.

The differnce is no one shlould have to be forced to give. Islam gives of their surplus and no one forces them. They do not have welfare system as we do.

 

[Jarhead]

ALMSGIVING. Which I belive most of you never heard about.

Alms - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

you are barking up the wrong tree.

We give.

We dont want OTHERS to take from us to give.

"thanks to Obama, I can now support my family"

Really?

What about thanks to those whose money is actually used for those benefits?

Ever hear anyone.....politicians included....that say "thank the Lord for the wealthy for they pay FOR OVER 75% OF OUR ENTITLEMENTS?

 

[Jarhead]

Tha works in a circle. Those that give, gets in return and they don't always know they are being given to. I give and I get ten times in return. Be thankful that you have 10 fish and can give 9 away.

There's a huge difference between voluntarily giving away your nine fish to who you want to and having nine fish forcibly taken away to be given to whomever the government deems worthy.

The differnce is no one shlould have to be forced to give. Islam gives of their surplus and no one forces them. They do not have welfare system as we do.

The ones who decide that the people should be forced to give are the politicians.

You know...the folks that take credit for the entitlement programs...and thius get votes?

If I saw a man who was in need....and I knew he had a place to live, food to eat, and clothes to wear thanks to entitlement programs, i would not feel the nbeed to give to him.

If I knew he got none of those?

I would not hesitate to help.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Tha works in a circle. Those that give, gets in return and they don't always know they are being given to. I give and I get ten times in return. Be thankful that you have 10 fish and can give 9 away.

There's a huge difference between voluntarily giving away your nine fish to who you want to and having nine fish forcibly taken away to be given to whomever the government deems worthy.

The differnce is no one shlould have to be forced to give. Islam gives of their surplus and no one forces them. They do not have welfare system as we do.

I agree that no one should be forced to give. Unfortunately, our current governmental regime does not consider us able to give of our own accord, at least not to those they select, and they take what surplus we may have had.

 

[kaz]

Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day.

Teach a man to fish, you feed him for a lifetime.

Make him a corporate fisherman, investors and CEO might let him keep one out of 10 fish he catches, and if he asks for more of his own damn fish, you call him a "Communist"!

I'm guessing your point made sense in your head before you got lost in the woods, didn't it?

 

[Little-Acorn]

Let a man sit by your fire, and he is warm for a day.

Set a man on fire, and he is warm for the rest of his life.

 

[Toro]

I want them to go to the people who actually did the work... or least the proceeds of selling the fish.

Sorry, the owner of the fishing company sitting in his office didn't catch one fucking fish. Some guy on a boat did that.

The whacky thing is, Republicans USED to understand that.

Thank you for confirming what I wrote.

And no, Republicans have never thought business owners and investors were parasites.

It's funny when a Communist says he believes in limited government. lol

I never thought you were part of the right wing nut job conspiracy theorists who believe union means communist. My mistake.

I'm agnostic on unions. I've been a member of a few unions. I've defended them here.

I've only ever called one person a communist on here. And if you listen to what he says about capital, you'd have a hard time differentiating between what JoeBigot and a communist believes.

 

[JoeB131]

Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day.

Teach a man to fish, you feed him for a lifetime.

Make him a corporate fisherman, investors and CEO might let him keep one out of 10 fish he catches, and if he asks for more of his own damn fish, you call him a "Communist"!

If someone is paying you to fish and providing all the equipment then the fish you catch are not your fish are they?

Quite the reverse. If the investor or the CEO could catch his own damned fish, he'd be out in this boat doing it.

The fact is, they can't.... so it's just as much my fish as his. That's the point.

More to the point- to beat the metaphor to death. If he's keeping 9 fish and he only needs one, isn't that greed?

 

[JoeB131]

Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day.

Teach a man to fish, you feed him for a lifetime.

Make him a corporate fisherman, investors and CEO might let him keep one out of 10 fish he catches, and if he asks for more of his own damn fish, you call him a "Communist"!

I'm guessing your point made sense in your head before you got lost in the woods, didn't it?

Well, no, it made perfectly good sense.

Unfortunately, you were too retarded to understand it.

 

[JoeB131]

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I have to ask, where is your outrage that obama and his fellow douchebags spend more for a meal than most average Americans make in a year? You do appear to have the ability to split hairs and be a huge hypocrite.

Most of Obama's money came from small donors... that was the point.

It's also why he won. Because a rich douchebag who can pay 50K for a plate to listen to Mitt talk about how we all need to be more those chinese gals peeing in the same bucket still only has....

one vote.

 

[JoeB131]

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Again, thank you for reconfirming what I wrote. You are a communist who hates rich people and poor Chinese women.

Of course he and his investors are going to keep all the profits. Profits belong to the owners of the business. If you're a communist, you believe otherwise.

Almost all of those women in that dormitory were there because the business that you hate so much was providing them with a better life than they had subsistence farming, where they probably lived in a two room shack on a two acre plot and dumped their raw sewage in the stream running by. Over 100 million people have migrated from the Chinese hinterlands to the coast to work in these factories because they pay better and the working conditions are better.

They tried your ideology in China and it failed, JoeAmpad. So now they're trying capitalism and its resulted in biggest increase of people out of abject poverty in the shortest period of time in human history.

But keep on hatin'!

Yup, if you think the people do the work enjoy should enjoy the benefit of it, you are a "communist"...

China is a regime that forces women to have abortions, that harvests people for transplant organs, that runs over people with tanks for merely wanting the right to free speech.

And of course, the Plutocratic assholes like yourself think it's wonderful.

 

[JoeB131]

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Then why doesn't the fisherman go work for himself?

That's what you do in a capitalist free-market economy. You decide if you want to work for someone else or for yourself.

Unless you're in a socialist country, in which case you're screwed into giving 9 out of the 10 fish you catch to the gree, err.. government.

Yawn... you see, I love when the rube defend the status quo by screaming socialism, when they probably don't know what the word means.