God = ancient of days= king in ot

[kjw47]

God was king in the ot--- YHWH(Jehovah) a single being mono God-Psalm 83:18)
Jesus was given a millennial reign( kingship) Daniel 7:13-15) and a bride= 144,000, for coming to the earth and laying down a perfect sinless, mortal existence to buy back what a perfect sinless mortal lost by sinning.
If Jesus were God, he already would be king---but a prince( Michael) the archangel is the one who stood up for the sons of men-Daniel 12:1) and was called Jesus as a mortal. A prince can be given a kingship, but it cannot be given to one if it is already theirs.

 

[The Irish Ram]

kj, Michael is and always has been an angel. He didn't become mortal, and wasn't there with God in the beginning. He was created. Christ on the other hand has been there since the beginning, and without Him, nothing would have been created. Michael is not Jesus.
And Jesus is King and like all kings, will set up His kingdom as soon as the age of the Gentile is fulfilled.

The 144,000 are messianic Jews, that are marked just like Cain was, so that no man can harm them as they spread the word about Christ during the tribulation. They never leave earth. They will be here when Christ returns to end the tribulation period and set up His kingdom.
If they are to be the only ones that enter Heaven, what's God going to do with all of Christ's Christians?

Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.

They are marked to assure that all the tribes of Israel will survive WW3, because all nations are going to attack Israel. WW3 will begin and end in Israel. Few will survive it. We know that 12,000 from each tribe will:

Rev: 4-5 .............. from the tribe of Judah, twelve thousand were sealed, from the tribe of Reuben twelve thousand, from the tribe of Gad twelve thousand,

Here they are with Christ, but notice where:

Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father's name written on their foreheads.

If they were to die and go to heaven there would have been no reason for being marked to prevent their death. And then there is this:

The tombs were opened, and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; and coming out of the tombs after His resurrection they entered the holy city and appeared to many.

They numbered about 12,000 men and an unnumbered amount of women and children. After spending 40 days back here with Christ they accompanied Him to Heaven. If only 144,000 Jews enter Heaven, where are these folks and where you goin??

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Jesus is God, Kjw47.

 

[kjw47]

Jesus is God, Kjw47.

Not according to Jesus, Paul, John and Peter--all 100% in agreement--The Father is Jesus' God.

 

[kjw47]

kj, Michael is and always has been an angel. He didn't become mortal, and wasn't there with God in the beginning. He was created. Christ on the other hand has been there since the beginning, and without Him, nothing would have been created. Michael is not Jesus.
And Jesus is King and like all kings, will set up His kingdom as soon as the age of the Gentile is fulfilled.

The 144,000 are messianic Jews, that are marked just like Cain was, so that no man can harm them as they spread the word about Christ during the tribulation. They never leave earth. They will be here when Christ returns to end the tribulation period and set up His kingdom.
If they are to be the only ones that enter Heaven, what's God going to do with all of Christ's Christians?

Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.

They are marked to assure that all the tribes of Israel will survive WW3, because all nations are going to attack Israel. WW3 will begin and end in Israel. Few will survive it. We know that 12,000 from each tribe will:

Rev: 4-5 .............. from the tribe of Judah, twelve thousand were sealed, from the tribe of Reuben twelve thousand, from the tribe of Gad twelve thousand,

Here they are with Christ, but notice where:

Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father's name written on their foreheads.

If they were to die and go to heaven there would have been no reason for being marked to prevent their death. And then there is this:

The tombs were opened, and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; and coming out of the tombs after His resurrection they entered the holy city and appeared to many.

They numbered about 12,000 men and an unnumbered amount of women and children. After spending 40 days back here with Christ they accompanied Him to Heaven. If only 144,000 Jews enter Heaven, where are these folks and where you goin??

2 of the tribes in rev are different from the 12 tribes in the ot---showing---it is not literal Israel, but spiritual Israel.
Jesus promised this to the great crowd of other sheep which no man can number----Happy are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.

 

[PostmodernProph]

Jesus is God, Kjw47.

Not according to Jesus, Paul, John and Peter--all 100% in agreement--The Father is Jesus' God.

well, except for things like Jesus saying he was God.......

 

[jillian]

Jesus is God, Kjw47.

Not according to Jesus, Paul, John and Peter--all 100% in agreement--The Father is Jesus' God.

well, except for things like Jesus saying he was God.......

didn't he say "that's what you say I am".

 

[PostmodernProph]

Not according to Jesus, Paul, John and Peter--all 100% in agreement--The Father is Jesus' God.

well, except for things like Jesus saying he was God.......

didn't he say "that's what you say I am".

not in John 8

58 “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!” 59 At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.

they were going to stone him for blasphemy, for saying he was God......

 

[kjw47]

Jesus is God, Kjw47.

Not according to Jesus, Paul, John and Peter--all 100% in agreement--The Father is Jesus' God.

well, except for things like Jesus saying he was God.......

Jesus never said he was God---men have to twist his words to fit their dogmas.

 

[kjw47]

well, except for things like Jesus saying he was God.......

didn't he say "that's what you say I am".

not in John 8

58 “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!” 59 At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.

they were going to stone him for blasphemy, for saying he was God......

Lets look---false teachers under satans control saying Jesus was saying he was God--but Jesus never said that. Do you believe the Pharisees who had Jesus sent to his death or believe Jesus--John 20:17, rev 3:12
The Hebrew did not translate --I am in the ot--the real meaning is--I shall prove to be what I shall prove to be.
Alls Jesus was saying was he was before Abraham--nothing more--nothing less.

 

[PostmodernProph]

didn't he say "that's what you say I am".

not in John 8

58 “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!” 59 At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.

they were going to stone him for blasphemy, for saying he was God......

Lets look---false teachers under satans control saying Jesus was saying he was God--but Jesus never said that. Do you believe the Pharisees who had Jesus sent to his death or believe Jesus--John 20:17, rev 3:12
The Hebrew did not translate --I am in the ot--the real meaning is--I shall prove to be what I shall prove to be.
Alls Jesus was saying was he was before Abraham--nothing more--nothing less.

so why did the crowd consider him a blasphemer and pick up stones.....because someone made an error in translating what he said to them?....

 

[PostmodernProph]

Not according to Jesus, Paul, John and Peter--all 100% in agreement--The Father is Jesus' God.

well, except for things like Jesus saying he was God.......

Jesus never said he was God---men have to twist his words to fit their dogmas.

can you read quotes?.....

 

[GISMYS]

ALMIGHTY GOD IS GOD THE FATHER,SON AND HOLYSPIRIT=ALMIGHTY GOD!!! BELIEVE GOD'S WORD!!! and you?

 

[GISMYS]

SHORT AND SIMPLE EVEN YOU CAN UNDERSTAND==Christ came, who is over all, the eternally blessed God. Amen. Romans 9:5

 

[GISMYS]

John says so, in John 1:1... "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."


2. John says so, by stating in John 1:3 that Jesus is the Divine Creator of all things. See Colossians 1:16; 2nd Peter 3:5. Genesis 1:1 plainly states that GOD created the universe and all things in it.


3. John says so, in John 1:10... "He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not."


4. John says so, in John 3:16, by calling Jesus God's "only begotten Son." To be God's literal Son makes Jesus deity.


5. Jesus Himself claimed so, in John 14:1, by asking those who believe in God to also believe on Him.


6. Jesus Himself claimed so, in John 8:24, "...for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins." The pronoun "he" is in italics in the King James Bible, meaning it was added by the translators for clarity, and isn't in the Greek. Thus, it literally says, "...for if ye believe not that I AM, ye shall die in your sins." See Exodus 3:14.


7. Jesus Himself claimed so, in John 8:58, "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am." This is the I AM of Exodus 3:14. The people understood what Jesus was claiming, because they tried to kill him in John 8:59.


8. Jesus Himself claimed so, in John 10:30, "I and my Father are one."


9. Jesus Himself claimed so, in John 10:33, "The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God."


10. Jesus Himself claimed so, in John 14:1, "Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me." Clearly, Jesus was claiming equality with God the Father. See Philippians 2:6 (King James Bible).

 

[GISMYS]

ACTS

1. Peter says so, in Acts 4:10-12, by stating that salvation can ONLY be found in the name of JESUS. Isaiah 43:11,12 tell us that God is the ONLY Savior. In John 14:6, Jesus claimed to be the ONLY way to Heaven.


2. Paul says so, in Acts 20:28, "Take heed therefore unto yourselves...to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood." Paul states that God paid for our sins with His own blood. 1st Peter 1:18,19 clearly states that Jesus is the Lamb of God which shed His blood for our sins. Hence, Jesus is Almighty God!

 

[GISMYS]

ROMANS

1. Paul says so, The Resurrection of Jesus Christ proves His Deity ( Romans 1:1-4)


2. Nature says so, giving understanding and clarity to the fact that Jesus Christ is God. "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse" (Romans 1:18-20; John 1:1-3; Colossians 1:16).


3. Lost sinners know so, who knowing the judgment of God..." (Romans 1:18, 24-32). Only Jesus Christ Himself judges sin! (John 5:22). The unsaved realize that someday they will stand before Jesus Christ to be judged.


4. Abraham says so, by believing God. Genesis 15:6 states Abraham believed the LORD! James 2:19 says believing in God is not enough to be saved. John 3:16 says believing in Jesus Christ is enough, so we must conclude that
Abraham believed on Jesus Christ as God because he was justified in Romans 4:3 (Rom 4:1-5)


5. Paul says so, by declaring that Jesus Christ is Eternal and Immortal! (Romans 6:9,10).


6. Paul says so, by declaring that Jesus is risen! (Romans 8:34).


7. Isaiah says so, by prophesying about the coming Messiah who would die on the cross (Romans 9:25-33. Verse 33 states... "Whosoever believeth on Him shall not be ashamed." This is a quote from Isaiah 28:16. Paul said that the "LORD" of Isaiah 10:23 is the same "LORD" that died on the cross (Romans 10:11).


8. Paul says so by quoting Psalm 40:17, 14:7, Isaiah 27:9. Jesus Christ as our Deliverer is God. All will confess Jesus as God at the Judgment Seat! (Romans 14:11).

 

[kjw47]

ROMANS

1. Paul says so, The Resurrection of Jesus Christ proves His Deity ( Romans 1:1-4)


2. Nature says so, giving understanding and clarity to the fact that Jesus Christ is God. "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse" (Romans 1:18-20; John 1:1-3; Colossians 1:16).


3. Lost sinners know so, who knowing the judgment of God..." (Romans 1:18, 24-32). Only Jesus Christ Himself judges sin! (John 5:22). The unsaved realize that someday they will stand before Jesus Christ to be judged.


4. Abraham says so, by believing God. Genesis 15:6 states Abraham believed the LORD! James 2:19 says believing in God is not enough to be saved. John 3:16 says believing in Jesus Christ is enough, so we must conclude that
Abraham believed on Jesus Christ as God because he was justified in Romans 4:3 (Rom 4:1-5)


5. Paul says so, by declaring that Jesus Christ is Eternal and Immortal! (Romans 6:9,10).


6. Paul says so, by declaring that Jesus is risen! (Romans 8:34).


7. Isaiah says so, by prophesying about the coming Messiah who would die on the cross (Romans 9:25-33. Verse 33 states... "Whosoever believeth on Him shall not be ashamed." This is a quote from Isaiah 28:16. Paul said that the "LORD" of Isaiah 10:23 is the same "LORD" that died on the cross (Romans 10:11).


8. Paul says so by quoting Psalm 40:17, 14:7, Isaiah 27:9. Jesus Christ as our Deliverer is God. All will confess Jesus as God at the Judgment Seat! (Romans 14:11).

Followers of Jesus learn and apply by listening to Jesus--John 4:22-24

 

[The Irish Ram]

kj, Michael is and always has been an angel. He didn't become mortal, and wasn't there with God in the beginning. He was created. Christ on the other hand has been there since the beginning, and without Him, nothing would have been created. Michael is not Jesus.
And Jesus is King and like all kings, will set up His kingdom as soon as the age of the Gentile is fulfilled.

The 144,000 are messianic Jews, that are marked just like Cain was, so that no man can harm them as they spread the word about Christ during the tribulation. They never leave earth. They will be here when Christ returns to end the tribulation period and set up His kingdom.
If they are to be the only ones that enter Heaven, what's God going to do with all of Christ's Christians?

Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.

They are marked to assure that all the tribes of Israel will survive WW3, because all nations are going to attack Israel. WW3 will begin and end in Israel. Few will survive it. We know that 12,000 from each tribe will:




Here they are with Christ, but notice where:


If they were to die and go to heaven there would have been no reason for being marked to prevent their death. And then there is this:

The tombs were opened, and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; and coming out of the tombs after His resurrection they entered the holy city and appeared to many.

They numbered about 12,000 men and an unnumbered amount of women and children. After spending 40 days back here with Christ they accompanied Him to Heaven. If only 144,000 Jews enter Heaven, where are these folks and where you goin??

2 of the tribes in rev are different from the 12 tribes in the ot---showing---it is not literal Israel, but spiritual Israel.
Jesus promised this to the great crowd of other sheep which no man can number----Happy are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.

See how easily you are swayed to add your spin? You have turned Israel in to a spirit. Israel takes Israel literally. Take it literally and you will understand God's promise to Abraham. Regardless of what you have turned it into, with Jesus and sheep and sprinkling the meek and inheritance into your understanding, these are the ones that will insure that the twelve tribes of Israel literally survive the upcoming holocaust:

Revelation 7:3&#8211;8 saying: "Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees, until after we have sealed the servants of God on their foreheads." And I heard the number of the sealed, a hundred and forty-four thousand, sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel. <( since countries don't give birth, you need an understanding what man's name was changed to Israel, and who his sons were):
12,000 from the tribe of Judah were sealed,
12,000 from the tribe of Reuben,
12,000 from the tribe of Gad,
12,000 from the tribe of Asher,
12,000 from the tribe of Naphtali,
12,000 from the tribe of Manasseh,
12,000 from the tribe of Simeon,
12,000 from the tribe of Levi,
12,000 from the tribe of Issachar,
12,000 from the tribe of Zebulun,
12,000 from the tribe of Joseph,
12,000 from the tribe of Benjamin were sealed.

Now you know who Jacob's/Israel's sons are, that are literally sealed on their literal foreheads to keep them alive, literally. You don't have to turn the event into an ethereal action, or guess at what 12 tribes. God clarified that for you so you can keep it real.

 

[kjw47]

kj, Michael is and always has been an angel. He didn't become mortal, and wasn't there with God in the beginning. He was created. Christ on the other hand has been there since the beginning, and without Him, nothing would have been created. Michael is not Jesus.
And Jesus is King and like all kings, will set up His kingdom as soon as the age of the Gentile is fulfilled.

The 144,000 are messianic Jews, that are marked just like Cain was, so that no man can harm them as they spread the word about Christ during the tribulation. They never leave earth. They will be here when Christ returns to end the tribulation period and set up His kingdom.
If they are to be the only ones that enter Heaven, what's God going to do with all of Christ's Christians?


They are marked to assure that all the tribes of Israel will survive WW3, because all nations are going to attack Israel. WW3 will begin and end in Israel. Few will survive it. We know that 12,000 from each tribe will:




Here they are with Christ, but notice where:


If they were to die and go to heaven there would have been no reason for being marked to prevent their death. And then there is this:

They numbered about 12,000 men and an unnumbered amount of women and children. After spending 40 days back here with Christ they accompanied Him to Heaven. If only 144,000 Jews enter Heaven, where are these folks and where you goin??

2 of the tribes in rev are different from the 12 tribes in the ot---showing---it is not literal Israel, but spiritual Israel.
Jesus promised this to the great crowd of other sheep which no man can number----Happy are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.

See how easily you are swayed to add your spin? You have turned Israel in to a spirit. Israel takes Israel literally. Take it literally and you will understand God's promise to Abraham. Regardless of what you have turned it into, with Jesus and sheep and sprinkling the meek and inheritance into your understanding, these are the ones that will insure that the twelve tribes of Israel literally survive the upcoming holocaust:

Revelation 7:3–8 saying: "Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees, until after we have sealed the servants of God on their foreheads." And I heard the number of the sealed, a hundred and forty-four thousand, sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel. <( since countries don't give birth, you need an understanding what man's name was changed to Israel, and who his sons were):
12,000 from the tribe of Judah were sealed,
12,000 from the tribe of Reuben,
12,000 from the tribe of Gad,
12,000 from the tribe of Asher,
12,000 from the tribe of Naphtali,
12,000 from the tribe of Manasseh,
12,000 from the tribe of Simeon,
12,000 from the tribe of Levi,
12,000 from the tribe of Issachar,
12,000 from the tribe of Zebulun,
12,000 from the tribe of Joseph,
12,000 from the tribe of Benjamin were sealed.

Now you know who Jacob's/Israel's sons are, that are literally sealed on their literal foreheads to keep them alive, literally. You don't have to turn the event into an ethereal action, or guess at what 12 tribes. God clarified that for you so you can keep it real.

God showed in 70 ad where the Israelites stood with him---but he a loving Father left the door open to them--accept Jesus as the Messiah--over 1900 years and they refuse---what makes you think a last second--ok we believe will help them? It isn't Israel the world raises up against--it is Gods chosen ones who they come for. The bible writer had 0 clue what they would be called in the last days--so he referenced Israel( spiritual)( meaning Gods chosen) it wont be Israel.