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Good tactic. Avoid addressing my refutation to your "finely tuned universe™" nonsense with the obligatory "you hate my gawds™".You're way too generous, Postmodern. Hollie is smart, can't deny her that. I do hate to see smart people using their intelligence to keep from hearing something they don't want to. She does change up her replies depending what will effectively aggravate the person she is replying to. Most of the time she does not have to be too creative but she can if she chooses. She either hates God for some reason, hates people who believe in God, or she just hates people in general and religious are the easiest to attack. I am guessing the first. It reminds me of when Moses is leading the congregation in the wilderness and the congregation are grumbling at Moses for lack of something, I forget what. Moses goes to the LORD and the LORD says, 'Don't take it personal, Moses. It is me they are grumbling at." I think the LORD sends poisons snakes, and then Moses lifts up the golden snake. I might be mixing up verses there though.I suspect her reason is simpler.....she only has one argument......unless she pretends everyone she is arguing with is saying the same thing she has nothing to say....thus she pretends everyone believes the same thing.......she has even called Boss a YEC.........You keep referring to Postmodern as a YEC although you know full well he is not. You do it just to annoy him. You either harassment because you want to get back at his God for something or you do not like Postmodern because he is religious.I think you will find that no one is harassing the self-entitled "prophet". This is a public message board and there is, or should be, an expectation that posting your views in such a forum will generate opposing views. You or anyone else can make statements insisting that there is a supernatural realm inhabited by supernatural entities. That you may believe these supernatural entities to be extant and they created all of existence, fully formed a mere few thousand years ago is unsupportable. That such tales and fables mimic earlier tales and fables in not accidental. Humanity is evolving away from such mythology. Man's baser instincts are clearly evolving, at least for some of us. We are not as dispassionate as we once were. We are not as superstitious as we once were. We have gone from simplistic tools to seeing very nearly the instant of the expansion of the universe and down into the atom.
Belief in Arks, talking serpents, shrubbery spontaneously erupting into fire, Deities who control natural forces, etc , do not cure disease or grow crops.
I totally disagree that Hollie is smart. Based on the very few times she has dared to attempt articulating a scientific point, I seriously doubt she could pass a basic high school physics exam. Her knowledge of science relies on whatever she has been told by other God Haters, and that's all that really matters to her.
I think you are right about her being angry at God. This is the case with most Atheists. I have often said, some Atheists are bigger believers in God than some Christians.
A reasonable person would review the conception of gawds and resolve the contradictions by acknowledging that at least part of that conception must be false. But then again, what part of a 6,000 year old earth, talking serpents and supernaturalism could possibly be false?
First of all, I can't speak for people who believe in talking serpants and 6,000 year-old earth because I don't believe that. I will get back to these people in a moment. I don't think you've offered any scientific evidence to establish humans invented the concept of God. Caveat: I mean the general concept of a spiritual power greater than self and not any specific religious incarnation. All archeological evidence shows human spirituality joined at the hip with civilization. So until you can show me the time in human history where we didn't have spirituality, I can't conclude that we invented it.
I have, on multiple occassions, posted my views that religions are the result of human spirituality and constructed by man, threfore flawed. I do not belong to a religion. I think they all have their pros and cons but it doesn't define my God. Even the word "God" might not be adequate to describe what I believe but that's the word we use. Which brings me back to your beloved YECs...
To put this in the words of your mentor, Hillary Clinton... What difference does it make? If some people believe the earth is 6k years old and God just made everything look old... how does this effect you? Do you think this causes people to think life in the womb is valuable? Are they preventing you from believing differently? Are they trying to force you to believe what they do against your will? Because you should understand, you're never going to change their beliefs.. and certainly not by attacking those who already don't believe that.