GOP Seeking to do Away With ATF

[OKTexas]

I am not going to pretend your question isn't a good one. I assumed the name Central, in the title CIA, meant that agency was the hub off all federal intelligence. I could be wrong on that one. After a bit more researchI found this piece. What do you get out of it?

Why Does the United States Have 17 Different Intelligence Agencies?

They can't be too central since they are only allowed to operate outside the US, can they? And your link basically proves my point, we got'em but we don't really need all of them.

Well, yes , the CIA can be the hub where all foreign intelligence is collected ,analyzed and disseminated to proper authorities. The focus of virtually all US Intelligence agencies is , as far as I can tell, on foreign targets around the world. Domestic intelligence is the purview of the FBI. From what I can surmise there are 5 major card players at the table of American Intelligentsia. the CIA, NSA, DIA , FBI and Homeland Security.

"The duties break down roughly as follows: The CIA conducts foreign covert operations, counterintelligence operations, and collects and analyzes foreign intelligence for the president and his staff to aid in national security decisions. The DIA concentrates on foreign military intelligence information, including battlefield intelligence. NSA handles the making and breaking of codes, and intercepts communications from abroad. Last but not least, the FBI conducts domestic counterintelligence and counterterrorism operations in addition to its role as the lead law enforcement agency in the country. "

Pssttt. I am not sure what Homeland Security really does that couldn't be done by the FBI

So what do the other 13 do?

Its no secret. Here is a rundown:

Members of the IC

Well, after discovering that IC link, my eyes have been opened. it appears we were all merely speculating on what the 17 Intelligence agencies did. I now see them in an entirely new light... Now I suspect everyone of you are checking that link out...interesting isn't it?

Yep and this 17 intel agencies agree on Russia is pure bullshit. At leas one of them only provides information to the others, they draw no independent opinion. Regressives lying again, who'd a thunk?

 

[xband]

They can't be too central since they are only allowed to operate outside the US, can they? And your link basically proves my point, we got'em but we don't really need all of them.

Well, yes , the CIA can be the hub where all foreign intelligence is collected ,analyzed and disseminated to proper authorities. The focus of virtually all US Intelligence agencies is , as far as I can tell, on foreign targets around the world. Domestic intelligence is the purview of the FBI. From what I can surmise there are 5 major card players at the table of American Intelligentsia. the CIA, NSA, DIA , FBI and Homeland Security.

"The duties break down roughly as follows: The CIA conducts foreign covert operations, counterintelligence operations, and collects and analyzes foreign intelligence for the president and his staff to aid in national security decisions. The DIA concentrates on foreign military intelligence information, including battlefield intelligence. NSA handles the making and breaking of codes, and intercepts communications from abroad. Last but not least, the FBI conducts domestic counterintelligence and counterterrorism operations in addition to its role as the lead law enforcement agency in the country. "

Pssttt. I am not sure what Homeland Security really does that couldn't be done by the FBI

So what do the other 13 do?

Its no secret. Here is a rundown:

Members of the IC

Well, after discovering that IC link, my eyes have been opened. it appears we were all merely speculating on what the 17 Intelligence agencies did. I now see them in an entirely new light... Now I suspect everyone of you are checking that link out...interesting isn't it?

Yep and this 17 intel agencies agree on Russia is pure bullshit. At leas one of them only provides information to the others, they draw no independent opinion. Regressives lying again, who'd a thunk?

Just saw this yesterday, the third biggest best seller after the Bible and Koran is Mao's Red Book.

 

[OKTexas]

Hey, OkTexas. The least you could allow is drugs so people without can deal with the pain of having no healthcare and starvation on the side of the street. Come on, have a heart.

Great, how about we legalize other chemical weapons and weapons of mass destruction while we're at it.

 

[OKTexas]

Well, yes , the CIA can be the hub where all foreign intelligence is collected ,analyzed and disseminated to proper authorities. The focus of virtually all US Intelligence agencies is , as far as I can tell, on foreign targets around the world. Domestic intelligence is the purview of the FBI. From what I can surmise there are 5 major card players at the table of American Intelligentsia. the CIA, NSA, DIA , FBI and Homeland Security.

"The duties break down roughly as follows: The CIA conducts foreign covert operations, counterintelligence operations, and collects and analyzes foreign intelligence for the president and his staff to aid in national security decisions. The DIA concentrates on foreign military intelligence information, including battlefield intelligence. NSA handles the making and breaking of codes, and intercepts communications from abroad. Last but not least, the FBI conducts domestic counterintelligence and counterterrorism operations in addition to its role as the lead law enforcement agency in the country. "

Pssttt. I am not sure what Homeland Security really does that couldn't be done by the FBI

So what do the other 13 do?

Its no secret. Here is a rundown:

Members of the IC

Well, after discovering that IC link, my eyes have been opened. it appears we were all merely speculating on what the 17 Intelligence agencies did. I now see them in an entirely new light... Now I suspect everyone of you are checking that link out...interesting isn't it?

Yep and this 17 intel agencies agree on Russia is pure bullshit. At leas one of them only provides information to the others, they draw no independent opinion. Regressives lying again, who'd a thunk?

Just saw this yesterday, the third biggest best seller after the Bible and Koran is Mao's Red Book.

I'm surprised it's number 3, how many Chinese are there, about a billion and a half?

 

[ScienceRocks]

Hey, OkTexas. The least you could allow is drugs so people without can deal with the pain of having no healthcare and starvation on the side of the street. Come on, have a heart.

Great, how about we legalize other chemical weapons and weapons of mass destruction while we're at it.

Sounds good! We can agree on something, yay!

 

[JQPublic1]

I am not going to pretend your question isn't a good one. I assumed the name Central, in the title CIA, meant that agency was the hub off all federal intelligence. I could be wrong on that one. After a bit more researchI found this piece. What do you get out of it?

Why Does the United States Have 17 Different Intelligence Agencies?

They can't be too central since they are only allowed to operate outside the US, can they? And your link basically proves my point, we got'em but we don't really need all of them.

Well, yes , the CIA can be the hub where all foreign intelligence is collected ,analyzed and disseminated to proper authorities. The focus of virtually all US Intelligence agencies is , as far as I can tell, on foreign targets around the world. Domestic intelligence is the purview of the FBI. From what I can surmise there are 5 major card players at the table of American Intelligentsia. the CIA, NSA, DIA , FBI and Homeland Security.

"The duties break down roughly as follows: The CIA conducts foreign covert operations, counterintelligence operations, and collects and analyzes foreign intelligence for the president and his staff to aid in national security decisions. The DIA concentrates on foreign military intelligence information, including battlefield intelligence. NSA handles the making and breaking of codes, and intercepts communications from abroad. Last but not least, the FBI conducts domestic counterintelligence and counterterrorism operations in addition to its role as the lead law enforcement agency in the country. "

Pssttt. I am not sure what Homeland Security really does that couldn't be done by the FBI

So what do the other 13 do?

Its no secret. Here is a rundown:

Members of the IC

I see a butt load of overlap and waste. I see no reason not to consolidate similar functions.

I see some overlap but I also see that many agencies are specialized and focus on different kinds of intelligence.

 

[JQPublic1]

They can't be too central since they are only allowed to operate outside the US, can they? And your link basically proves my point, we got'em but we don't really need all of them.

Well, yes , the CIA can be the hub where all foreign intelligence is collected ,analyzed and disseminated to proper authorities. The focus of virtually all US Intelligence agencies is , as far as I can tell, on foreign targets around the world. Domestic intelligence is the purview of the FBI. From what I can surmise there are 5 major card players at the table of American Intelligentsia. the CIA, NSA, DIA , FBI and Homeland Security.

"The duties break down roughly as follows: The CIA conducts foreign covert operations, counterintelligence operations, and collects and analyzes foreign intelligence for the president and his staff to aid in national security decisions. The DIA concentrates on foreign military intelligence information, including battlefield intelligence. NSA handles the making and breaking of codes, and intercepts communications from abroad. Last but not least, the FBI conducts domestic counterintelligence and counterterrorism operations in addition to its role as the lead law enforcement agency in the country. "

Pssttt. I am not sure what Homeland Security really does that couldn't be done by the FBI

So what do the other 13 do?

Its no secret. Here is a rundown:

Members of the IC

Well, after discovering that IC link, my eyes have been opened. it appears we were all merely speculating on what the 17 Intelligence agencies did. I now see them in an entirely new light... Now I suspect everyone of you are checking that link out...interesting isn't it?

Yep and this 17 intel agencies agree on Russia is pure bullshit. At leas one of them only provides information to the others, they draw no independent opinion. Regressives lying again, who'd a thunk?

So your earlier premise that they do not share information is bogus?

 

[JQPublic1]

Well, yes , the CIA can be the hub where all foreign intelligence is collected ,analyzed and disseminated to proper authorities. The focus of virtually all US Intelligence agencies is , as far as I can tell, on foreign targets around the world. Domestic intelligence is the purview of the FBI. From what I can surmise there are 5 major card players at the table of American Intelligentsia. the CIA, NSA, DIA , FBI and Homeland Security.

"The duties break down roughly as follows: The CIA conducts foreign covert operations, counterintelligence operations, and collects and analyzes foreign intelligence for the president and his staff to aid in national security decisions. The DIA concentrates on foreign military intelligence information, including battlefield intelligence. NSA handles the making and breaking of codes, and intercepts communications from abroad. Last but not least, the FBI conducts domestic counterintelligence and counterterrorism operations in addition to its role as the lead law enforcement agency in the country. "

Pssttt. I am not sure what Homeland Security really does that couldn't be done by the FBI

So what do the other 13 do?

Its no secret. Here is a rundown:

Members of the IC

Well, after discovering that IC link, my eyes have been opened. it appears we were all merely speculating on what the 17 Intelligence agencies did. I now see them in an entirely new light... Now I suspect everyone of you are checking that link out...interesting isn't it?

Yep and this 17 intel agencies agree on Russia is pure bullshit. At leas one of them only provides information to the others, they draw no independent opinion. Regressives lying again, who'd a thunk?

Just saw this yesterday, the third biggest best seller after the Bible and Koran is Mao's Red Book.

Has it been translated? I'd like to take a look at it. As an American I am free to do that, aren't I????

 

[BluesLegend]

Now that sounds like government, duplicate overlapping agencies, each a fiefdom for some political appointee to rule. And we wonder how we got $20 trillion in debt.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Now that sounds like government, duplicate overlapping agencies, each a fiefdom for some political appointee to rule. And we wonder how we got $20 trillion in debt.

Better then somalia or Haiti that has little to no government. We're the most powerful nation on earth thanks to our government? What is so wrong with it.

 

[Borillar]

the DEA needs to be abolished...

They can get rid of the DEA, ATF, TSA, and DHS.

 

[2aguy]

WAY overdue

Republicans have also introduced a Bill to Reform Silencer Laws to Both Houses of Congress - something else that is way overdue.

the tax on silencers was first brought in during the great depression - apparently there were many folks that were illegally hunting on government lands (especially national parks) & most were doing it just to feed their families during hard times; so this law to make silencers illegal was passed primarily to make it easier for Park Rangers and other law enforcement officials to prevent poaching on federal land & to make it harder for citizens to get away with hunting there

The federal government LOSES roughly $17 million a year enforcing this archaic law - this is what "draining the swamp looks like!!!

LINK

Republicans in the House of Representatives and the Senate introduced legislation this week to reform the laws that govern firearm silencers. The twin bills, both named the Hearing Protection Act, were introduced by Reps. Jeff Duncan (R., S.C) and John Carter (R., Texas) in the House and Sen. Mike Crapo (R., Idaho) in the Senate.

The bills would remove the special $200 tax and months-long registration process currently applied to silencers. The requirement that anyone buying a silencer from a licensed gun dealer pass a background check will remain.

Gun rights advocates have long argued that silencers are a safety device since they reduce the noise associated with firing many firearms from a level that is damaging to the shooter’s hearing to a level that, while not actually silent, is far safer. They believe that easier access to and wider adoption of the devices could reduce firearm-related hearing damage, especially for those who commonly hunt without hearing protection. Advocates often compare firearms silencers to car mufflers since Hiram Percy Maxim had a hand in creating both and they both utilize the same technology.

I wonder how this new silencer freedom is going to impact new policing technology such as gunfire monitors?

Yeah...those work real great here in Chicago.

 

[BluesLegend]

Now that sounds like government, duplicate overlapping agencies, each a fiefdom for some political appointee to rule. And we wonder how we got $20 trillion in debt.

Better then somalia or Haiti that has little to no government. We're the most powerful nation on earth thanks to our government? What is so wrong with it.

No dummy we are the most powerful country on earth thanks to the people in the private sector, business owners, and corporations. Where do you think the government gets the money it wastes, did they hold a bake sale?

 

[JQPublic1]

WAY overdue

Republicans have also introduced a Bill to Reform Silencer Laws to Both Houses of Congress - something else that is way overdue.

the tax on silencers was first brought in during the great depression - apparently there were many folks that were illegally hunting on government lands (especially national parks) & most were doing it just to feed their families during hard times; so this law to make silencers illegal was passed primarily to make it easier for Park Rangers and other law enforcement officials to prevent poaching on federal land & to make it harder for citizens to get away with hunting there

The federal government LOSES roughly $17 million a year enforcing this archaic law - this is what "draining the swamp looks like!!!

LINK

Republicans in the House of Representatives and the Senate introduced legislation this week to reform the laws that govern firearm silencers. The twin bills, both named the Hearing Protection Act, were introduced by Reps. Jeff Duncan (R., S.C) and John Carter (R., Texas) in the House and Sen. Mike Crapo (R., Idaho) in the Senate.

The bills would remove the special $200 tax and months-long registration process currently applied to silencers. The requirement that anyone buying a silencer from a licensed gun dealer pass a background check will remain.

Gun rights advocates have long argued that silencers are a safety device since they reduce the noise associated with firing many firearms from a level that is damaging to the shooter’s hearing to a level that, while not actually silent, is far safer. They believe that easier access to and wider adoption of the devices could reduce firearm-related hearing damage, especially for those who commonly hunt without hearing protection. Advocates often compare firearms silencers to car mufflers since Hiram Percy Maxim had a hand in creating both and they both utilize the same technology.

I wonder how this new silencer freedom is going to impact new policing technology such as gunfire monitors?

Yeah...those work real great here in Chicago.

well,duhh...the gunfire means someone has already been shot. Wake up and smell the coffins

 

[owebo]

WAY overdue

Republicans have also introduced a Bill to Reform Silencer Laws to Both Houses of Congress - something else that is way overdue.

the tax on silencers was first brought in during the great depression - apparently there were many folks that were illegally hunting on government lands (especially national parks) & most were doing it just to feed their families during hard times; so this law to make silencers illegal was passed primarily to make it easier for Park Rangers and other law enforcement officials to prevent poaching on federal land & to make it harder for citizens to get away with hunting there

The federal government LOSES roughly $17 million a year enforcing this archaic law - this is what "draining the swamp looks like!!!

LINK

Republicans in the House of Representatives and the Senate introduced legislation this week to reform the laws that govern firearm silencers. The twin bills, both named the Hearing Protection Act, were introduced by Reps. Jeff Duncan (R., S.C) and John Carter (R., Texas) in the House and Sen. Mike Crapo (R., Idaho) in the Senate.

The bills would remove the special $200 tax and months-long registration process currently applied to silencers. The requirement that anyone buying a silencer from a licensed gun dealer pass a background check will remain.

Gun rights advocates have long argued that silencers are a safety device since they reduce the noise associated with firing many firearms from a level that is damaging to the shooter’s hearing to a level that, while not actually silent, is far safer. They believe that easier access to and wider adoption of the devices could reduce firearm-related hearing damage, especially for those who commonly hunt without hearing protection. Advocates often compare firearms silencers to car mufflers since Hiram Percy Maxim had a hand in creating both and they both utilize the same technology.

I wonder how this new silencer freedom is going to impact new policing technology such as gunfire monitors?

Yeah...those work real great here in Chicago.

well,duhh...the gunfire means someone has already been shot. Wake up and smell the coffins

We did...sans Trump.....

 

[danielpalos]

Good idea or not? According to this, they want the FBI to handle firearms, explosives and arson while DEA would handle alcohol.

“Additionally, the Act calls for an immediate hiring freeze at the agency and requires the Department of Justice to eliminate and reduce duplicative functions and waste, as well as report to Congress with a detailed plan on how the transition will take place,” it continued. “Further, it would transfer enforcement of firearms, explosives and arson laws to the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and illegal diversion of alcohol and tobacco products would be transferred to the Drug Enforcement Agency

What's your take on it? Story @ BREAKING: GOP Keeps Pressure Up, Terrifies ATF With Game-Changing Announcement

We should end the drug war, first.

 

[owebo]

Good idea or not? According to this, they want the FBI to handle firearms, explosives and arson while DEA would handle alcohol.

“Additionally, the Act calls for an immediate hiring freeze at the agency and requires the Department of Justice to eliminate and reduce duplicative functions and waste, as well as report to Congress with a detailed plan on how the transition will take place,” it continued. “Further, it would transfer enforcement of firearms, explosives and arson laws to the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and illegal diversion of alcohol and tobacco products would be transferred to the Drug Enforcement Agency

What's your take on it? Story @ BREAKING: GOP Keeps Pressure Up, Terrifies ATF With Game-Changing Announcement

We should end the drug war, first.

As soon as we win it....

 

[OKTexas]

Well, yes , the CIA can be the hub where all foreign intelligence is collected ,analyzed and disseminated to proper authorities. The focus of virtually all US Intelligence agencies is , as far as I can tell, on foreign targets around the world. Domestic intelligence is the purview of the FBI. From what I can surmise there are 5 major card players at the table of American Intelligentsia. the CIA, NSA, DIA , FBI and Homeland Security.

"The duties break down roughly as follows: The CIA conducts foreign covert operations, counterintelligence operations, and collects and analyzes foreign intelligence for the president and his staff to aid in national security decisions. The DIA concentrates on foreign military intelligence information, including battlefield intelligence. NSA handles the making and breaking of codes, and intercepts communications from abroad. Last but not least, the FBI conducts domestic counterintelligence and counterterrorism operations in addition to its role as the lead law enforcement agency in the country. "

Pssttt. I am not sure what Homeland Security really does that couldn't be done by the FBI

So what do the other 13 do?

Its no secret. Here is a rundown:

Members of the IC

Well, after discovering that IC link, my eyes have been opened. it appears we were all merely speculating on what the 17 Intelligence agencies did. I now see them in an entirely new light... Now I suspect everyone of you are checking that link out...interesting isn't it?

Yep and this 17 intel agencies agree on Russia is pure bullshit. At leas one of them only provides information to the others, they draw no independent opinion. Regressives lying again, who'd a thunk?

So your earlier premise that they do not share information is bogus?

Didn't read the link did ya? Share with the rest of the class what the National Reconnaissance Office would have to do with the "Russian hacking" investigation? Come on, here's your chance to create some new and improved propaganda.

 

[kaz]

Good idea or not? According to this, they want the FBI to handle firearms, explosives and arson while DEA would handle alcohol.

“Additionally, the Act calls for an immediate hiring freeze at the agency and requires the Department of Justice to eliminate and reduce duplicative functions and waste, as well as report to Congress with a detailed plan on how the transition will take place,” it continued. “Further, it would transfer enforcement of firearms, explosives and arson laws to the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and illegal diversion of alcohol and tobacco products would be transferred to the Drug Enforcement Agency

What's your take on it? Story @ BREAKING: GOP Keeps Pressure Up, Terrifies ATF With Game-Changing Announcement

If you look at the three words in the acronym comprising the title of the agency, the Federal government has no Constitutional authority to restrict any of them

 

[kaz]

WAY overdue

Republicans have also introduced a Bill to Reform Silencer Laws to Both Houses of Congress - something else that is way overdue.

the tax on silencers was first brought in during the great depression - apparently there were many folks that were illegally hunting on government lands (especially national parks) & most were doing it just to feed their families during hard times; so this law to make silencers illegal was passed primarily to make it easier for Park Rangers and other law enforcement officials to prevent poaching on federal land & to make it harder for citizens to get away with hunting there

The federal government LOSES roughly $17 million a year enforcing this archaic law - this is what "draining the swamp looks like!!!

LINK

Republicans in the House of Representatives and the Senate introduced legislation this week to reform the laws that govern firearm silencers. The twin bills, both named the Hearing Protection Act, were introduced by Reps. Jeff Duncan (R., S.C) and John Carter (R., Texas) in the House and Sen. Mike Crapo (R., Idaho) in the Senate.

The bills would remove the special $200 tax and months-long registration process currently applied to silencers. The requirement that anyone buying a silencer from a licensed gun dealer pass a background check will remain.

Gun rights advocates have long argued that silencers are a safety device since they reduce the noise associated with firing many firearms from a level that is damaging to the shooter’s hearing to a level that, while not actually silent, is far safer. They believe that easier access to and wider adoption of the devices could reduce firearm-related hearing damage, especially for those who commonly hunt without hearing protection. Advocates often compare firearms silencers to car mufflers since Hiram Percy Maxim had a hand in creating both and they both utilize the same technology.

I wonder how this new silencer freedom is going to impact new policing technology such as gunfire monitors?

Yeah...those work real great here in Chicago.

well,duhh...the gunfire means someone has already been shot. Wake up and smell the coffins

When only the criminals have guns as you propose, we are so much safer ...