"Governor signs bill mandating sex ed in schools across California"

Some people know, some don't.

I remember the Sports Teachers doing sex ed. They were talking about Masturbation. I had absolutely no idea what they were talking about. I mean, the whole time just went right over my head. I learned nothing. However it was clear quite a few kids did know because they were discussing it with the sports teachers. I probably wasn't even listening.

I've always been young for my age. I look young for my age. I still have a full head of hair. People were losing hair ages ago from my age group. Bald patches galore. So I wasn't in a hurry to get girlfriends, learn about sex and all of that when I was at high school.

Well, I don't know where you're from but you're certainly not like any of the guys I grew up with.


Well, maybe you didn't talk to people like me.

Sounds like that may have been your problem. The guys didn't associate with you. You were "strange".

It doesn't matter what I was or wasn't. The point being that there are kids out there who aren't in the know about these things. There are those who appear younger than their age, who aren't in a hurry to be an adult, get a pension and die.

Your point was that ALL kids knew, I bet this isn't true. Probably that those who didn't know you just put a label of "weird" on them and ignore them.

Probably so. And they were weird.

Anything wrong with being weird? I find normal people spend their whole time thinking about how they can fit in, and they're never comfortable in their own skin. Weird people learn quicker how to live with themselves and relax. Most normal people turn to drink to get through their normalness.
 
Do you understand the concept of people specialising in things? Like, if I want a plumbing job done, I call a plumber, if I want an electrical job I call and electrician?

Parents often don't have time to teach their kids everything they need to know in life. Also, it's been shown that kids (remember, kids?) suffer less when the education they get at school is relevant to their life. Why do you want kids to get STDs and be teenage parents because their parents are too busy working and earning money.

Or, hey, how about this, instead of sex ed, no one is allowed to work more than 30 hours a week. You prefer that? So then parents will have enough time to teach their kids how to put a condom on.
Sh!tty parents are a dime a dozen... It's called too lazy to care.

That is the root of why the country is in such sh!tty shape.

So you get shitty parents, and you're screwed in life because no one else is going to teach you, right?

Or maybe the country is in a shitty shape because the right demands all parents be good parents and teach their kids everything there is, but this doesn't happen, so schools don't do it either, and then it all goes wrong.

You can't make parents do it, but you can make schools do it. So there's only ONE solution and you decide to tell everyone not to do this solution because it's better that parents do something, when clearly it isn't, because it doesn't work.

Great
Well make it a choice than... Indoctrination is second nature to any government.
The good parents can do their duty and enthusiastically will, the bad parents can let some stranger indoctrinate their kids.

But, make it a choice for gods sake.

So parents teach kids and it's okay, schools teach the same thing and it's indoctrination. Hmmm.

But then again even if it's indoctrination (it's not usually) they're less likely to get STDs and be teenage parents. I'd say that kind of indoctrination is worth it, wouldn't you?

If you read the OP it says parents do have the choice.

Firstly, they have the choice to not send their kids to school.
Secondly they have the choice to take them out of sex ed.

Is that not enough choice for you?
There again, it should be a choice. Mandatory and choice are two different words, is that hard for you?

If the parents what the school to do the parenting, fine.
But, good parents want that responsibility all their own and want just basics taught and leave it at that.
And don't want do gooder teachers, schools and politicians meddling in their duty.


Again, did I point out that there is choice. It is MANDATORY for schools, not for kids or parents.
 
Well, I don't know where you're from but you're certainly not like any of the guys I grew up with.


Well, maybe you didn't talk to people like me.

Sounds like that may have been your problem. The guys didn't associate with you. You were "strange".

It doesn't matter what I was or wasn't. The point being that there are kids out there who aren't in the know about these things. There are those who appear younger than their age, who aren't in a hurry to be an adult, get a pension and die.

Your point was that ALL kids knew, I bet this isn't true. Probably that those who didn't know you just put a label of "weird" on them and ignore them.

Probably so. And they were weird.

Anything wrong with being weird? I find normal people spend their whole time thinking about how they can fit in, and they're never comfortable in their own skin. Weird people learn quicker how to live with themselves and relax. Most normal people turn to drink to get through their normalness.
Weird leads to confusion...
See: Bruce Jenner
 
Do you understand the concept of people specialising in things? Like, if I want a plumbing job done, I call a plumber, if I want an electrical job I call and electrician?

Parents often don't have time to teach their kids everything they need to know in life. Also, it's been shown that kids (remember, kids?) suffer less when the education they get at school is relevant to their life. Why do you want kids to get STDs and be teenage parents because their parents are too busy working and earning money.

Or, hey, how about this, instead of sex ed, no one is allowed to work more than 30 hours a week. You prefer that? So then parents will have enough time to teach their kids how to put a condom on.
Sh!tty parents are a dime a dozen... It's called too lazy to care.

That is the root of why the country is in such sh!tty shape.

So you get shitty parents, and you're screwed in life because no one else is going to teach you, right?

Or maybe the country is in a shitty shape because the right demands all parents be good parents and teach their kids everything there is, but this doesn't happen, so schools don't do it either, and then it all goes wrong.

You can't make parents do it, but you can make schools do it. So there's only ONE solution and you decide to tell everyone not to do this solution because it's better that parents do something, when clearly it isn't, because it doesn't work.

Great
Well make it a choice than... Indoctrination is second nature to any government.
The good parents can do their duty and enthusiastically will, the bad parents can let some stranger indoctrinate their kids.

But, make it a choice for gods sake.

So parents teach kids and it's okay, schools teach the same thing and it's indoctrination. Hmmm.

But then again even if it's indoctrination (it's not usually) they're less likely to get STDs and be teenage parents. I'd say that kind of indoctrination is worth it, wouldn't you?

If you read the OP it says parents do have the choice.

Firstly, they have the choice to not send their kids to school.
Secondly they have the choice to take them out of sex ed.

Is that not enough choice for you?
There again, it should be a choice. Mandatory and choice are two different words, is that hard for you?

If the parents what the school to do the parenting, fine.
But, good parents want that responsibility all their own and want just basics taught and leave it at that.
And don't want do gooder teachers, schools and politicians meddling in their duty.

LOL. I can't believe how dumb some people who post on the internet seem to be.
 
Governor signs bill mandating sex ed in schools across California

"Individual parents can opt out, but schools cannot.

The law ensures not only that school districts offer sex education, but that they teach a comprehensive curriculum that includes abstinence, a range of contraceptives, issues related to sexuality and gender identity as well as “an objective discussion of all legally available pregnancy outcomes, including, but not limited to, parenting, adoption and abortion.”

The new law combines the previously required curriculum on HIV/AIDS prevention and sex education into one required set of knowledge and skills kids should be taught before the end of eighth grade, and one they should be taught before the end of high school.

Districts can start offering the curriculum in seventh grade.

“Our schools are a critical environment for providing young people with the knowledge and skills that they will need to protect their sexual health,” said the bill’s author, Assemblywoman Shirley Weber, D-San Diego, in a statement. “This is about empowering all young men and women — whatever their orientation or gender — to make the healthiest decisions possible.”

Weber’s measure also requires the curriculum to “affirmatively recognize that people have different sexual orientations and, when discussing or providing examples of relationships and couples, shall be inclusive of same-sex relationships.”

“This legislation ensures that all students have access to medically accurate and unbiased sexual health education,” said state Superintendent of Public Instruction Tom Torlakson in a statement. “By affirmatively recognizing that people have different sexual orientations and teaching pupils about gender identity, LGBTQ youth will be safer in school.”"


Thank goodness the part about 'medically accurate' info. Some states don't require the sex-ed be medically accurate. Always imagine something like "the man inserts his penis into the woman's cloiaca..." :)

Apparently kids are a lot more stupid now than they were 50 or more years ago. When I was in the eighth grade, we knew all about sex without any classes on the subject.
Yes, but you were not informed that you could choose your sexual orientation and they're all equally acceptable or that you could decide you're really a woman. You were also deprived of instructions on proper masturbation techniques and anal fisting. I don't know how you survived with such an incomplete syllabus.

That is true. Even my high school biology class failed in those regards. I had a hard, and I do emphasize the word "hard" enough time with the mini-skirts and the tight sweaters.
You surely must have been a late bloomer, or more likely, you didn't know what the hell to do with it. We pretty much had it figured out by halfway through the first six weeks of 7th grade.
 
Governor signs bill mandating sex ed in schools across California

"Individual parents can opt out, but schools cannot.

The law ensures not only that school districts offer sex education, but that they teach a comprehensive curriculum that includes abstinence, a range of contraceptives, issues related to sexuality and gender identity as well as “an objective discussion of all legally available pregnancy outcomes, including, but not limited to, parenting, adoption and abortion.”

The new law combines the previously required curriculum on HIV/AIDS prevention and sex education into one required set of knowledge and skills kids should be taught before the end of eighth grade, and one they should be taught before the end of high school.

Districts can start offering the curriculum in seventh grade.

“Our schools are a critical environment for providing young people with the knowledge and skills that they will need to protect their sexual health,” said the bill’s author, Assemblywoman Shirley Weber, D-San Diego, in a statement. “This is about empowering all young men and women — whatever their orientation or gender — to make the healthiest decisions possible.”

Weber’s measure also requires the curriculum to “affirmatively recognize that people have different sexual orientations and, when discussing or providing examples of relationships and couples, shall be inclusive of same-sex relationships.”

“This legislation ensures that all students have access to medically accurate and unbiased sexual health education,” said state Superintendent of Public Instruction Tom Torlakson in a statement. “By affirmatively recognizing that people have different sexual orientations and teaching pupils about gender identity, LGBTQ youth will be safer in school.”"


Thank goodness the part about 'medically accurate' info. Some states don't require the sex-ed be medically accurate. Always imagine something like "the man inserts his penis into the woman's cloiaca..." :)

Apparently kids are a lot more stupid now than they were 50 or more years ago. When I was in the eighth grade, we knew all about sex without any classes on the subject.

LOL. I figured the OP would attract kooks, this one ^^^ maybe the most ridiculous.

Why? Because YOU are backward?

No, because I am educated, experienced and thoughtful.
 
Well, maybe you didn't talk to people like me.

Sounds like that may have been your problem. The guys didn't associate with you. You were "strange".

It doesn't matter what I was or wasn't. The point being that there are kids out there who aren't in the know about these things. There are those who appear younger than their age, who aren't in a hurry to be an adult, get a pension and die.

Your point was that ALL kids knew, I bet this isn't true. Probably that those who didn't know you just put a label of "weird" on them and ignore them.

Probably so. And they were weird.

Anything wrong with being weird? I find normal people spend their whole time thinking about how they can fit in, and they're never comfortable in their own skin. Weird people learn quicker how to live with themselves and relax. Most normal people turn to drink to get through their normalness.
Weird leads to confusion...
See: Bruce Jenner

Weird only leads to confusion in idiots. I'm sure Jenner doesn't have a problem, it's only idiots, bigots, etc who have a problem with Jenner.

Maybe if these people looked at themselves a little more, instead of criticising others, then they'd be comfortable in their own skins. As it is they try and put people down in an attempt at making themselves rise, feel more important, feel good about themselves.

Thank fuck I'm not someone who feels uncomfortable in their own skin, hey?
 
Sh!tty parents are a dime a dozen... It's called too lazy to care.

That is the root of why the country is in such sh!tty shape.

So you get shitty parents, and you're screwed in life because no one else is going to teach you, right?

Or maybe the country is in a shitty shape because the right demands all parents be good parents and teach their kids everything there is, but this doesn't happen, so schools don't do it either, and then it all goes wrong.

You can't make parents do it, but you can make schools do it. So there's only ONE solution and you decide to tell everyone not to do this solution because it's better that parents do something, when clearly it isn't, because it doesn't work.

Great
Well make it a choice than... Indoctrination is second nature to any government.
The good parents can do their duty and enthusiastically will, the bad parents can let some stranger indoctrinate their kids.

But, make it a choice for gods sake.

So parents teach kids and it's okay, schools teach the same thing and it's indoctrination. Hmmm.

But then again even if it's indoctrination (it's not usually) they're less likely to get STDs and be teenage parents. I'd say that kind of indoctrination is worth it, wouldn't you?

If you read the OP it says parents do have the choice.

Firstly, they have the choice to not send their kids to school.
Secondly they have the choice to take them out of sex ed.

Is that not enough choice for you?
There again, it should be a choice. Mandatory and choice are two different words, is that hard for you?

If the parents what the school to do the parenting, fine.
But, good parents want that responsibility all their own and want just basics taught and leave it at that.
And don't want do gooder teachers, schools and politicians meddling in their duty.


Again, did I point out that there is choice. It is MANDATORY for schools, not for kids or parents.
There again you missed the point, it's a waste of money.

Teachers make for really sh!tty parents of other people's kids... Indoctrination is always second nature.

Thus, the waste of others money, leading unbearable taxes, leading to a failing country.
 
Sounds like that may have been your problem. The guys didn't associate with you. You were "strange".

It doesn't matter what I was or wasn't. The point being that there are kids out there who aren't in the know about these things. There are those who appear younger than their age, who aren't in a hurry to be an adult, get a pension and die.

Your point was that ALL kids knew, I bet this isn't true. Probably that those who didn't know you just put a label of "weird" on them and ignore them.

Probably so. And they were weird.

Anything wrong with being weird? I find normal people spend their whole time thinking about how they can fit in, and they're never comfortable in their own skin. Weird people learn quicker how to live with themselves and relax. Most normal people turn to drink to get through their normalness.
Weird leads to confusion...
See: Bruce Jenner

Weird only leads to confusion in idiots. I'm sure Jenner doesn't have a problem, it's only idiots, bigots, etc who have a problem with Jenner.

Maybe if these people looked at themselves a little more, instead of criticising others, then they'd be comfortable in their own skins. As it is they try and put people down in an attempt at making themselves rise, feel more important, feel good about themselves.

Thank fuck I'm not someone who feels uncomfortable in their own skin, hey?
It's really hard say Bruce Jenner is any thing other than freak, he has changed his mind of what he is two or three times. Earth to Bruce you are what you were born... Look it's physically obvious dumb a$$.
Thus, the confusion...
 
So you get shitty parents, and you're screwed in life because no one else is going to teach you, right?

Or maybe the country is in a shitty shape because the right demands all parents be good parents and teach their kids everything there is, but this doesn't happen, so schools don't do it either, and then it all goes wrong.

You can't make parents do it, but you can make schools do it. So there's only ONE solution and you decide to tell everyone not to do this solution because it's better that parents do something, when clearly it isn't, because it doesn't work.

Great
Well make it a choice than... Indoctrination is second nature to any government.
The good parents can do their duty and enthusiastically will, the bad parents can let some stranger indoctrinate their kids.

But, make it a choice for gods sake.

So parents teach kids and it's okay, schools teach the same thing and it's indoctrination. Hmmm.

But then again even if it's indoctrination (it's not usually) they're less likely to get STDs and be teenage parents. I'd say that kind of indoctrination is worth it, wouldn't you?

If you read the OP it says parents do have the choice.

Firstly, they have the choice to not send their kids to school.
Secondly they have the choice to take them out of sex ed.

Is that not enough choice for you?
There again, it should be a choice. Mandatory and choice are two different words, is that hard for you?

If the parents what the school to do the parenting, fine.
But, good parents want that responsibility all their own and want just basics taught and leave it at that.
And don't want do gooder teachers, schools and politicians meddling in their duty.


Again, did I point out that there is choice. It is MANDATORY for schools, not for kids or parents.
There again you missed the point, it's a waste of money.

Teachers make for really sh!tty parents of other people's kids... Indoctrination is always second nature.

Thus, the waste of others money, leading unbearable taxes, leading to a failing country.

You Rustic are an idiot in need of a village.
 
So you get shitty parents, and you're screwed in life because no one else is going to teach you, right?

Or maybe the country is in a shitty shape because the right demands all parents be good parents and teach their kids everything there is, but this doesn't happen, so schools don't do it either, and then it all goes wrong.

You can't make parents do it, but you can make schools do it. So there's only ONE solution and you decide to tell everyone not to do this solution because it's better that parents do something, when clearly it isn't, because it doesn't work.

Great
Well make it a choice than... Indoctrination is second nature to any government.
The good parents can do their duty and enthusiastically will, the bad parents can let some stranger indoctrinate their kids.

But, make it a choice for gods sake.

So parents teach kids and it's okay, schools teach the same thing and it's indoctrination. Hmmm.

But then again even if it's indoctrination (it's not usually) they're less likely to get STDs and be teenage parents. I'd say that kind of indoctrination is worth it, wouldn't you?

If you read the OP it says parents do have the choice.

Firstly, they have the choice to not send their kids to school.
Secondly they have the choice to take them out of sex ed.

Is that not enough choice for you?
There again, it should be a choice. Mandatory and choice are two different words, is that hard for you?

If the parents what the school to do the parenting, fine.
But, good parents want that responsibility all their own and want just basics taught and leave it at that.
And don't want do gooder teachers, schools and politicians meddling in their duty.


Again, did I point out that there is choice. It is MANDATORY for schools, not for kids or parents.
There again you missed the point, it's a waste of money.

Teachers make for really sh!tty parents of other people's kids... Indoctrination is always second nature.

Thus, the waste of others money, leading unbearable taxes, leading to a failing country.

You know what, there might be some truth to your claim that teachers are shitty parents of other peoples kids. But, that shouldn't have any effect on their ability to educate your children, which is where teachers should be focusing their efforts. They shouldn't have to raise your kids, because that's your job.
 
Well make it a choice than... Indoctrination is second nature to any government.
The good parents can do their duty and enthusiastically will, the bad parents can let some stranger indoctrinate their kids.

But, make it a choice for gods sake.

So parents teach kids and it's okay, schools teach the same thing and it's indoctrination. Hmmm.

But then again even if it's indoctrination (it's not usually) they're less likely to get STDs and be teenage parents. I'd say that kind of indoctrination is worth it, wouldn't you?

If you read the OP it says parents do have the choice.

Firstly, they have the choice to not send their kids to school.
Secondly they have the choice to take them out of sex ed.

Is that not enough choice for you?
There again, it should be a choice. Mandatory and choice are two different words, is that hard for you?

If the parents what the school to do the parenting, fine.
But, good parents want that responsibility all their own and want just basics taught and leave it at that.
And don't want do gooder teachers, schools and politicians meddling in their duty.


Again, did I point out that there is choice. It is MANDATORY for schools, not for kids or parents.
There again you missed the point, it's a waste of money.

Teachers make for really sh!tty parents of other people's kids... Indoctrination is always second nature.

Thus, the waste of others money, leading unbearable taxes, leading to a failing country.

You know what, there might be some truth to your claim that teachers are shitty parents of other peoples kids. But, that shouldn't have any effect on their ability to educate your children, which is where teachers should be focusing their efforts. They shouldn't have to raise your kids, because that's your job.

A comprehensive curriculum on health, including human sexuality and its emotional investment, STD's and domestic abuse are a necessary part of a good education.
 
Sex education which teaches abstinence is the most successful type of sex education, which reduces STDs, teenage pregnancies etc.

Abstinence only programs are the least successful, they lead to the highest levels of STDs and teenage pregnancies.

Abstinence only programs are fine, so long as said program includes sex education. Anything less is no education at all.
 
Apparently kids are a lot more stupid now than they were 50 or more years ago. When I was in the eighth grade, we knew all about sex without any classes on the subject.
Really? Because 50 years ago there were a lot more teen pregnancies than there are today.

Why is the teen birth rate falling?

Probably in the inner cities. Most young ladies 50 years ago were more selective and "hard to get" than they are today. 50 years ago there was a concept of "saving myself for my husband".

The data would seem to indicate otherwise. Television has derived a fantasy that life in the 50s and 60s was nothing but the Cleavers and Donna Reed.
 
Sex education which teaches abstinence is the most successful type of sex education, which reduces STDs, teenage pregnancies etc.

Abstinence only programs are the least successful, they lead to the highest levels of STDs and teenage pregnancies.

Ya, the parents of Cali are too stupid to teach their own kids... Or I should say the lack of parental caring.

Let the schools indoctrinate a state full of a$$ hats... They deserve it.

They should offer this class to all US schools not just in California. What made you think this is not a problem in other states? Highest teen pregnancy is New Mexico..... followed by Texas, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi and Oklahoma. California is ranked #25 I think. Educate kids about sex education so babies don't end up in welfare is a good idea.
 
Do you understand the concept of people specialising in things? Like, if I want a plumbing job done, I call a plumber, if I want an electrical job I call and electrician?

Parents often don't have time to teach their kids everything they need to know in life. Also, it's been shown that kids (remember, kids?) suffer less when the education they get at school is relevant to their life. Why do you want kids to get STDs and be teenage parents because their parents are too busy working and earning money.

Or, hey, how about this, instead of sex ed, no one is allowed to work more than 30 hours a week. You prefer that? So then parents will have enough time to teach their kids how to put a condom on.
Sh!tty parents are a dime a dozen... It's called too lazy to care.

That is the root of why the country is in such sh!tty shape.

So you get shitty parents, and you're screwed in life because no one else is going to teach you, right?

Or maybe the country is in a shitty shape because the right demands all parents be good parents and teach their kids everything there is, but this doesn't happen, so schools don't do it either, and then it all goes wrong.

You can't make parents do it, but you can make schools do it. So there's only ONE solution and you decide to tell everyone not to do this solution because it's better that parents do something, when clearly it isn't, because it doesn't work.

Great
Well make it a choice than... Indoctrination is second nature to any government.
The good parents can do their duty and enthusiastically will, the bad parents can let some stranger indoctrinate their kids.

But, make it a choice for gods sake.

So parents teach kids and it's okay, schools teach the same thing and it's indoctrination. Hmmm.

But then again even if it's indoctrination (it's not usually) they're less likely to get STDs and be teenage parents. I'd say that kind of indoctrination is worth it, wouldn't you?

If you read the OP it says parents do have the choice.

Firstly, they have the choice to not send their kids to school.
Secondly they have the choice to take them out of sex ed.

Is that not enough choice for you?
There again, it should be a choice. Mandatory and choice are two different words, is that hard for you?

If the parents what the school to do the parenting, fine.
But, good parents want that responsibility all their own and want just basics taught and leave it at that.
And don't want do gooder teachers, schools and politicians meddling in their duty.

I agree. It appears to me that all these folks want is the government to everything for them and assume all their personal responsibilities for them.
 
Sex education which teaches abstinence is the most successful type of sex education, which reduces STDs, teenage pregnancies etc.

Abstinence only programs are the least successful, they lead to the highest levels of STDs and teenage pregnancies.

Ya, the parents of Cali are too stupid to teach their own kids... Or I should say the lack of parental caring.

Let the schools indoctrinate a state full of a$$ hats... They deserve it.

They should offer this class to all US schools not just in California. What made you think this is not a problem in other states? Highest teen pregnancy is New Mexico..... followed by Texas, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi and Oklahoma. California is ranked #25 I think. Educate kids about sex education so babies don't end up in welfare is a good idea.

It is the lack of personal responsibility and the government that has put not only kids but a lot of adults on welfare. I'm an adult. I was a teenager. I am a father and a grandfather. I have never been on any form of welfare. I'm not a "victim".
 

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