Greatest Non-Pitching Basebll Player in MLB History?

[rightwinger]

Bonds was a 40/40 guy before the 'roids. What a shame he ruined his legacy.

Bonds could have been an all time great

 

[The_Lyrical_Miracle]

Griffey Jr was better and he didn’t cheat

Let's compare classic stats the dictate greatness in baseball.

Years played:
Griffey 23
Bonds 22

Hits:
Bonds 2,935
Griffey 2,781

Home Runs:
Bonds 762
Griffey 630

RBI's:
Bonds 1,996
Griffey 1,836

Steals:
Bonds 514
Griffey 167

MVP's:
Bonds 7
Griffey 1

Gold Gloves:
Griffey 10
Bonds 8

WAR:
Bonds 162.8
Griffey 83.8

Didn't turn out too well for your guy. But then again, you're just ego trolling at this point, we all know this.

Care to address the data?

 

[DGS49]

Honestly, I think that the steroids aspect must be ignored, historically speaking. There is no way to know how many players were juiced. The only rational approach must be to assume that certain players enhanced their muscularity through hard work, a specialized diet, and legal dietary supplements. This is not that far-fetched when you consider one thing: Baseball players have, since the beginning of time, been told NOT to bulk up. It was said that bulky muscles will slow you down, harm your coordination, etc. But there came a time when muscular players - weight lifters, actually - began to excel, and others, like Bonds, decided to give it a shot.

Mr. Bonds was a Hall of Famer before he built himself up. Saying that his whole career is bullshit because his last few years were suspect is unfair and ignores the fact that even if he were illegally blown up, YOU STILL HAVE TO HIT THE BALL.

I don't believe that there has ever been a player like Bonds, who forced opposing teams to focus their entire defense and pitching strategy to simply keep him from hitting home runs every time up. Who else was intentionally walked with the bases loaded? Or with runners at first and second, no outs? Nobody.

He was a singular player.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Let's compare classic stats the dictate greatness in baseball.

Years played:
Griffey 23
Bonds 22

Hits:
Bonds 2,935
Griffey 2,781

Home Runs:
Bonds 762
Griffey 630

RBI's:
Bonds 1,996
Griffey 1,836

Steals:
Bonds 514
Griffey 167

MVP's:
Bonds 7
Griffey 1

Gold Gloves:
Griffey 10
Bonds 8

WAR:
Bonds 162.8
Griffey 83.8

Didn't turn out too well for your guy. But then again, you're just ego trolling at this point, we all know this.

Care to address the data?

HOF inductions:

Bonds: 0

Griffey Jr: 1

This is a fact for the same reason Griffey might have been a better player, despite the stats.

 

[Couchpotato]

Let's compare classic stats the dictate greatness in baseball.

Years played:
Griffey 23
Bonds 22

Hits:
Bonds 2,935
Griffey 2,781

Home Runs:
Bonds 762
Griffey 630

RBI's:
Bonds 1,996
Griffey 1,836

Steals:
Bonds 514
Griffey 167

MVP's:
Bonds 7
Griffey 1

Gold Gloves:
Griffey 10
Bonds 8

WAR:
Bonds 162.8
Griffey 83.8

Didn't turn out too well for your guy. But then again, you're just ego trolling at this point, we all know this.

Care to address the data?

Cheated and disrespected the game

Bonds 1

Griffey jr. 0

 

[Couchpotato]

Honestly, I think that the steroids aspect must be ignored, historically speaking. There is no way to know how many players were juiced. The only rational approach must be to assume that certain players enhanced their muscularity through hard work, a specialized diet, and legal dietary supplements. This is not that far-fetched when you consider one thing: Baseball players have, since the beginning of time, been told NOT to bulk up. It was said that bulky muscles will slow you down, harm your coordination, etc. But there came a time when muscular players - weight lifters, actually - began to excel, and others, like Bonds, decided to give it a shot.

Mr. Bonds was a Hall of Famer before he built himself up. Saying that his whole career is bullshit because his last few years were suspect is unfair and ignores the fact that even if he were illegally blown up, YOU STILL HAVE TO HIT THE BALL.

I don't believe that there has ever been a player like Bonds, who forced opposing teams to focus their entire defense and pitching strategy to simply keep him from hitting home runs every time up. Who else was intentionally walked with the bases loaded? Or with runners at first and second, no outs? Nobody.

He was a singular player.

He cheated. End of discussion. It’s really that simple

 

[The_Lyrical_Miracle]

Cheated and disrespected the game

Bonds 1

Griffey jr. 0

Made every at-bat must see TV

Bonds: 1
McGwire: 1
Griffey Jr.: 0

 

[The_Lyrical_Miracle]

He cheated. End of discussion. It’s really that simple

Daryl Strawberry and Dwight Gooden were Cokeheads, which is a super stimulant and temporarily helps with performance... do you want to X them out of the HOF too?

 

[The_Lyrical_Miracle]

HOF inductions:

Bonds: 0

Griffey Jr: 1

This is a fact for the same reason Griffey might have been a better player, despite the stats.

Of course, I'm referencing accomplishments, you're referencing a bunch of "last-picked-on the playground" journalists who had their feelings hurt because Bonds wasn't nice them.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Bonds was a 40/40 guy before the 'roids. What a shame he ruined his legacy.

^ this

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Also, Babe Ruth was in a class by himself as a power hitter.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Daryl Strawberry and Dwight Gooden were Cokeheads, which is a super stimulant and temporarily helps with performance... do you want to X them out of the HOF too?

Neither one is in the Hall of Fame.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Griffey Jr was better and he didn’t cheat

aint that the truth.....the guy was a pure hitter...

 

[Harry Dresden]

Let's compare classic stats the dictate greatness in baseball.

Years played:
Griffey 23
Bonds 22

Hits:
Bonds 2,935
Griffey 2,781

Home Runs:
Bonds 762
Griffey 630

RBI's:
Bonds 1,996
Griffey 1,836

Steals:
Bonds 514
Griffey 167

MVP's:
Bonds 7
Griffey 1

Gold Gloves:
Griffey 10
Bonds 8

WAR:
Bonds 162.8
Griffey 83.8

Didn't turn out too well for your guy. But then again, you're just ego trolling at this point, we all know this.

Care to address the data?

yea lets go back and let griffey take those roids to....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Also, Babe Ruth was in a class by himself as a power hitter.

in the 20's.....10 years later in the 30's there were a few power hitters....

 

[rightwinger]

Let's compare classic stats the dictate greatness in baseball.

Years played:
Griffey 23
Bonds 22

Hits:
Bonds 2,935
Griffey 2,781

Home Runs:
Bonds 762
Griffey 630

RBI's:
Bonds 1,996
Griffey 1,836

Steals:
Bonds 514
Griffey 167

MVP's:
Bonds 7
Griffey 1

Gold Gloves:
Griffey 10
Bonds 8

WAR:
Bonds 162.8
Griffey 83.8

Didn't turn out too well for your guy. But then again, you're just ego trolling at this point, we all know this.

Care to address the data?

Bonds cheated
Didnt work out well for your guy

 

[The_Lyrical_Miracle]

yea lets go back and let griffey take those roids to....

Are you sure he didn't?

 

[The_Lyrical_Miracle]

Bonds cheated
Didnt work out well for your guy

The numbers say it worked out very well.

I like history.. your ilk wants to censor it.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Bonds 50 homers 1x
Griffey 50 homers 2x back to back without being enhanced... 40 homers 5 straight years without help....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Are you sure he didn't?

he was tested like your boy was.....