Group Behind Planned Parenthood Sting Video May Have Tricked IRS, Donors

[Lakhota]

NaziCons were wrong about ACORN. NaziCons will be proven wrong about Planned Parenthood. But they will never apologize!

 

[emilynghiem]

Idea:

If klilling babies to market their parts is OK then why is it not OK to market the body parts of slain abortion doctors. Is not dead dead regardless of cause? Does the cause of death reduce the value of the pieces?

I thought it was because the tender flesh of babies makes for more exotic hors d'oeuvres,
much more impressive when entertaining guests. And makes nice chunky salsa for the chips.

OK--I get it
You are pro-life emily

The truth of the issue is that there are researchers looking for fetal parts. it has nothing do with exotic dietary habits.

Also, it is illegal to pay a woman to have an abortion so you can use the fetus for research.

Next, due to the fact that the Good Doctor was filmed without permission, that video can not be used in a criminal case. But that is known fact, which underlines the point of using a hidden camera and editting the footage.

Finally, Recognize there are some fanatical and self sacrificing pro-lifers. Felonies and fines will not deter them from their mission. In fact, those are badges of honor or merit in the holy war they actively fight.

Thanks for the compliment.
I am actually prochoice politically.
But as a Constitutionalist I believe in defending all beliefs from discrimination exclusion or bias,
including prolife which I defend equally as a belief protected under the First and Fourteenth Amendments.
I consider it a compliment that you see me as prolife since I try to support both from imposition by the other.

The way to satisfy both prolife and prochoice is to prevent abortion 100%
but do so 100% by free choice without any coercion, compromise or nonconsensual laws people don't agree to.

So that is my standard on laws, they have to satisfy and represent the consent
and interest of both prochoice and prolife to be 100% constitutional.
A very high standard, but since beliefs are involved, the laws passed and enforced
ideally should be by consent of all people so that nobody's beliefs are violated.
Otherwise, we have no business making laws or enforcing them through govt
if they violate either First or Fourteenth Amendment rights.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

GASP!!!!! Huffpo...the far left loon site? The video doesn't lie....they are selling baby parts

Yes, but the left would deny that even in the face of absolute proof. They say don't judge PP until all facts are in, yet when it comes to those who exposed PP for being a slimy, unscrupulous organization, they convict them in the media and don't need proof to run with allegations.

You hateful slimy anti-choice assholes would even condemn Jesus if he personally performed abortions.

Jesus wouldn't approve of abortion you dumb ass. That's the entire fucking point. It's WRONG

 

[Mac1958]

The way to satisfy both prolife and prochoice is to prevent abortion 100% but do so 100% by free choice without any coercion, compromise or nonconsensual laws people don't agree to.

Good for you Emily, well put.

Wouldn't it be nice if both sides of this issue put their considerable passion, energy, resources and effort into minimizing the real abortion problem, which is demand?

But no, we can't have that, because that would require humility, reason and sincere cooperation. As with every other issue, the screaming narcissists are in control.

.

 

[LoneLaugher]

The way to satisfy both prolife and prochoice is to prevent abortion 100% but do so 100% by free choice without any coercion, compromise or nonconsensual laws people don't agree to.

Good for you Emily, well put.

Wouldn't it be nice if both sides of this issue put their considerable passion, energy, resources and effort into minimizing the real abortion problem, which is demand?

But no, we can't have that, because that would require humility, reason and sincere cooperation. As with every other issue, the screaming narcissists are in control.

.

One "side" is focused on that. Why don't you know this?

 

[billyerock1991]

GASP!!!!! Huffpo...the far left loon site? The video doesn't lie....they are selling baby parts

no they aren't .... they are charging for what it cost them ... they are a non-profit ...so for you to make your false accusation is incomprehensible ...

if you have medical people in your family, like I do, they all talk like she did ... they see this kind of activity with bodies every day... day in, day out ... so if you're supposed to be talking to a biochemical operation you don't color coat you tell it strait ... the fact that you right to lifers can't stomach it is your problem ...

 

[SassyIrishLass]

NaziCons were wrong about ACORN. NaziCons will be proven wrong about Planned Parenthood. But they will never apologize!

Exactly how were they wrong about ACORN? Ten bucks says Shitting Bull can't explain it

GASP!!!!! Huffpo...the far left loon site? The video doesn't lie....they are selling baby parts

no they aren't .... they are charging for what it cost them ... they are a non-profit ...so for you to make your false accusation is incomprehensible ...

if you have medical people in your family, like I do, they all talk like she did ... they see this kind of activity with bodies every day... day in, day out ... so if you're supposed to be talking to a biochemical operation you don't color coat you tell it strait ... the fact that you right to lifers can't stomach it is your problem ...

LOL They got caught....true story

 

[billyerock1991]

GASP!!!!! Huffpo...the far left loon site? The video doesn't lie....they are selling baby parts

Yes, but the left would deny that even in the face of absolute proof. They say don't judge PP until all facts are in, yet when it comes to those who exposed PP for being a slimy, unscrupulous organization, they convict them in the media and don't need proof to run with allegations.

You hateful slimy anti-choice assholes would even condemn Jesus if he personally performed abortions.

Jesus wouldn't approve of abortion you dumb ass. That's the entire fucking point. It's WRONG

so the fact that you believe in Jesus, you get to force his and your beliefs on others???? what about the free will thing that jesus forced on you???? could it be that you are taking free will from us ??? we should change it from pro-choice to pro-freewill ??? will that make you happy???

 

[2aguy]

The IRS thought it was some kind of biomedicine charity.

WASHINGTON -- The anti-abortion group that released an undercover "sting" video of a Planned Parenthood doctor this week appears to be a dummy nonprofit that may have deceived the Internal Revenue Service and the public about its mission.

The two-year-old Center for Medical Progress, which claims to be in the business of reporting on biomedical research, released undercover footage Tuesday of a Planned Parenthood doctor allegedly discussing the sale of fetal body parts after abortions. The video, which Planned Parenthood has denounced as misleading and heavily edited, was circulated widely and prompted House Republicans to launch an investigation into the family planning provider.

But as Slate reports, the Center for Medical Progress appears to be nothing more than a front organization for the anti-abortion group Live Action. That is not how the IRS understood it when considering the group's application for tax-exempt status, and not how the group originally presented itself to the public in soliciting donations.

If the Center for Medical Progress deliberately misled the IRS and donors about the nature of its nonprofit work, it could be subject to civil and criminal fraud penalties. IRS forms are signed under penalty of perjury, and a nonprofit misleading its donors about the nature of its work is "up there with all other kinds of fraud," according to Bruce Hopkins, an attorney who specializes in nonprofit law.

"The authorities have the right to shut down the charity, and the individuals behind the fraud can go to prison or pay a substantial fine," Hopkins said.

Planned Parenthood President Cecile Richards apologized in a video on Thursday for Nucatola's tone and statements in the video, but she maintained that the allegations about selling fetal body parts were "not true." Richards said that women seeking abortions sometimes choose to donate fetal tissue for scientific and medical research, and that Planned Parenthood follows "all laws and ethical guidelines" in doing so and makes no profit from the donations.

More: Group Behind Planned Parenthood Sting Video May Have Tricked IRS, Donors

The anti-choice zealots have no shame.

Again.......planned parenthood killed babies and sold their organs.............

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Using the power of the government to silence your political opponents, how Nazi-esque

 

[2aguy]

The IRS thought it was some kind of biomedicine charity.

WASHINGTON -- The anti-abortion group that released an undercover "sting" video of a Planned Parenthood doctor this week appears to be a dummy nonprofit that may have deceived the Internal Revenue Service and the public about its mission.

The two-year-old Center for Medical Progress, which claims to be in the business of reporting on biomedical research, released undercover footage Tuesday of a Planned Parenthood doctor allegedly discussing the sale of fetal body parts after abortions. The video, which Planned Parenthood has denounced as misleading and heavily edited, was circulated widely and prompted House Republicans to launch an investigation into the family planning provider.

But as Slate reports, the Center for Medical Progress appears to be nothing more than a front organization for the anti-abortion group Live Action. That is not how the IRS understood it when considering the group's application for tax-exempt status, and not how the group originally presented itself to the public in soliciting donations.

If the Center for Medical Progress deliberately misled the IRS and donors about the nature of its nonprofit work, it could be subject to civil and criminal fraud penalties. IRS forms are signed under penalty of perjury, and a nonprofit misleading its donors about the nature of its work is "up there with all other kinds of fraud," according to Bruce Hopkins, an attorney who specializes in nonprofit law.

"The authorities have the right to shut down the charity, and the individuals behind the fraud can go to prison or pay a substantial fine," Hopkins said.

Planned Parenthood President Cecile Richards apologized in a video on Thursday for Nucatola's tone and statements in the video, but she maintained that the allegations about selling fetal body parts were "not true." Richards said that women seeking abortions sometimes choose to donate fetal tissue for scientific and medical research, and that Planned Parenthood follows "all laws and ethical guidelines" in doing so and makes no profit from the donations.

More: Group Behind Planned Parenthood Sting Video May Have Tricked IRS, Donors

The anti-choice zealots have no shame.

Dear Lakhota
RE: The anti-choice zealots have no shame
What about the shooting of abortion doctors or attacks on clinics?
When people are willing to break the law, even shoot a doctor in church,
to make a public statement, what does that tell you?

To be fair to prolife advocates who are lawabiding, and don't seek to violate laws or rights of others,
if you can imagine what it's like to BELIEVE and count all those unborn babies
as "murdered children" you might be able to sympathize with prolife believers.

If you can understand the outrage of people arguing "Black Lives Matter"
while watching Black people killed as if they don't count, but are just random numbers and not people,
THAT might be similar to how prolife people feel who grieve for aborted babies, and take
on the horror and emotions of the experiences of abortion, that other people seem to deny as nonexistent.

Of if you can understand people protesting the killing of innocent civilians in war,
while surrounded by others who treat these "numbers" as random "collateral damage"
and don't have any sense that a person was lost, who had a life, and relations with others
that are now gone, leaving behind a hole in the world where that person is now missing.

Maybe THAT might relate to how prolife people feel "horrified"
that nobody is considering the life of the child and the loss and suffering.

From THAT perspective, Lakhota, don't you think the
"prochoice" people appear to have "no shame" either?

First, no one supports killing the doctors who murder babies. Second, millions of innocent babies murdered vs. a one or two baby murderers....and of course you side with the ones murdering babies.......you need to get your moral compass installed since you obviously don't have one.

You cry for Dr. tiller "the baby killer" known for his prolific partial birth abortion practice, and yet dismiss the innocent babies he killed.

 

[billyerock1991]

NaziCons were wrong about ACORN. NaziCons will be proven wrong about Planned Parenthood. But they will never apologize!

Exactly how were they wrong about ACORN? Ten bucks says Shitting Bull can't explain it

GASP!!!!! Huffpo...the far left loon site? The video doesn't lie....they are selling baby parts

no they aren't .... they are charging for what it cost them ... they are a non-profit ...so for you to make your false accusation is incomprehensible ...

if you have medical people in your family, like I do, they all talk like she did ... they see this kind of activity with bodies every day... day in, day out ... so if you're supposed to be talking to a biochemical operation you don't color coat you tell it strait ... the fact that you right to lifers can't stomach it is your problem ...

LOL They got caught....true story

it's no different then the acorn thing you republicans twist ... the fact was they claim they got caught ... I have come to believe that republicans have to lie about everything to justify the means ... tell me this, why didn't they release the whole recording instead of short clips edited to justify their means ??? why ??? if it is what you say, they were caught ... then why only just parts of it to justify their means ... if we dems/liberals did this you would be all up in the press demanding it to be shown... don't you ask yourself why or do you just run with it to justify your position... when they are taken to court, and we know they will be they will be forced to air the whole thing uncut ... leaving you and the likes of you others with egg all over your head ... it will be a long time before any trust a republican ... oh wait many don't

 

[2aguy]

NaziCons were wrong about ACORN. NaziCons will be proven wrong about Planned Parenthood. But they will never apologize!

Exactly how were they wrong about ACORN? Ten bucks says Shitting Bull can't explain it

GASP!!!!! Huffpo...the far left loon site? The video doesn't lie....they are selling baby parts

no they aren't .... they are charging for what it cost them ... they are a non-profit ...so for you to make your false accusation is incomprehensible ...

if you have medical people in your family, like I do, they all talk like she did ... they see this kind of activity with bodies every day... day in, day out ... so if you're supposed to be talking to a biochemical operation you don't color coat you tell it strait ... the fact that you right to lifers can't stomach it is your problem ...

LOL They got caught....true story

it's no different then the acorn thing you republicans twist ... the fact was they claim they got caught ... I have come to believe that republicans have to lie about everything to justify the means ... tell me this, why didn't they release the whole recording instead of short clips edited to justify their means ??? why ??? if it is what you say, they were caught ... then why only just parts of it to justify their means ... if we dems/liberals did this you would be all up in the press demanding it to be shown... don't you ask yourself why or do you just run with it to justify your position... when they are taken to court, and we know they will be they will be forced to air the whole thing uncut ... leaving you and the likes of you others with egg all over your head ... it will be a long time before any trust a republican ... oh wait many don't

they released the 3 hour video....go find it. and you do do it...all the time.

 

[Mac1958]

The whole thread is just a transparent attempt to deflect, which pretty much confirms that the original story is damaging.

But we can all play along.

.

 

[2aguy]

NaziCons were wrong about ACORN. NaziCons will be proven wrong about Planned Parenthood. But they will never apologize!

Exactly how were they wrong about ACORN? Ten bucks says Shitting Bull can't explain it

GASP!!!!! Huffpo...the far left loon site? The video doesn't lie....they are selling baby parts

no they aren't .... they are charging for what it cost them ... they are a non-profit ...so for you to make your false accusation is incomprehensible ...

if you have medical people in your family, like I do, they all talk like she did ... they see this kind of activity with bodies every day... day in, day out ... so if you're supposed to be talking to a biochemical operation you don't color coat you tell it strait ... the fact that you right to lifers can't stomach it is your problem ...

LOL They got caught....true story

it's no different then the acorn thing you republicans twist ... the fact was they claim they got caught ... I have come to believe that republicans have to lie about everything to justify the means ... tell me this, why didn't they release the whole recording instead of short clips edited to justify their means ??? why ??? if it is what you say, they were caught ... then why only just parts of it to justify their means ... if we dems/liberals did this you would be all up in the press demanding it to be shown... don't you ask yourself why or do you just run with it to justify your position... when they are taken to court, and we know they will be they will be forced to air the whole thing uncut ... leaving you and the likes of you others with egg all over your head ... it will be a long time before any trust a republican ... oh wait many don't

here you go dipshit....the whole video...posted at NPR....

Undercover Video Targets Planned Parenthood The Two-Way NPR

Again......they killed babies and sold their organs....

 

[billyerock1991]

The IRS thought it was some kind of biomedicine charity.

WASHINGTON -- The anti-abortion group that released an undercover "sting" video of a Planned Parenthood doctor this week appears to be a dummy nonprofit that may have deceived the Internal Revenue Service and the public about its mission.

The two-year-old Center for Medical Progress, which claims to be in the business of reporting on biomedical research, released undercover footage Tuesday of a Planned Parenthood doctor allegedly discussing the sale of fetal body parts after abortions. The video, which Planned Parenthood has denounced as misleading and heavily edited, was circulated widely and prompted House Republicans to launch an investigation into the family planning provider.

But as Slate reports, the Center for Medical Progress appears to be nothing more than a front organization for the anti-abortion group Live Action. That is not how the IRS understood it when considering the group's application for tax-exempt status, and not how the group originally presented itself to the public in soliciting donations.

If the Center for Medical Progress deliberately misled the IRS and donors about the nature of its nonprofit work, it could be subject to civil and criminal fraud penalties. IRS forms are signed under penalty of perjury, and a nonprofit misleading its donors about the nature of its work is "up there with all other kinds of fraud," according to Bruce Hopkins, an attorney who specializes in nonprofit law.

"The authorities have the right to shut down the charity, and the individuals behind the fraud can go to prison or pay a substantial fine," Hopkins said.

Planned Parenthood President Cecile Richards apologized in a video on Thursday for Nucatola's tone and statements in the video, but she maintained that the allegations about selling fetal body parts were "not true." Richards said that women seeking abortions sometimes choose to donate fetal tissue for scientific and medical research, and that Planned Parenthood follows "all laws and ethical guidelines" in doing so and makes no profit from the donations.

More: Group Behind Planned Parenthood Sting Video May Have Tricked IRS, Donors

The anti-choice zealots have no shame.

Again.......planned parenthood killed babies and sold their organs.............

if thats what you want to believe so be it ... can't cure stupid ... I won't deny they sold the organs ... so should they have ripped them organs right out of those babies and put them into a trash bucket ??? then sent them off to do with what ever they need them for ???

ooooooooooooooor should the have put them in safe containers to ship them to whom ever need them ... so the could use the to save lives you you would be happy then if they didn't get reimbursed for their expense ... because that would be wrong ... you would be happier if the didn't get reimbursed huh???

 

[billyerock1991]

NaziCons were wrong about ACORN. NaziCons will be proven wrong about Planned Parenthood. But they will never apologize!

Exactly how were they wrong about ACORN? Ten bucks says Shitting Bull can't explain it

GASP!!!!! Huffpo...the far left loon site? The video doesn't lie....they are selling baby parts

no they aren't .... they are charging for what it cost them ... they are a non-profit ...so for you to make your false accusation is incomprehensible ...

if you have medical people in your family, like I do, they all talk like she did ... they see this kind of activity with bodies every day... day in, day out ... so if you're supposed to be talking to a biochemical operation you don't color coat you tell it strait ... the fact that you right to lifers can't stomach it is your problem ...

LOL They got caught....true story

it's no different then the acorn thing you republicans twist ... the fact was they claim they got caught ... I have come to believe that republicans have to lie about everything to justify the means ... tell me this, why didn't they release the whole recording instead of short clips edited to justify their means ??? why ??? if it is what you say, they were caught ... then why only just parts of it to justify their means ... if we dems/liberals did this you would be all up in the press demanding it to be shown... don't you ask yourself why or do you just run with it to justify your position... when they are taken to court, and we know they will be they will be forced to air the whole thing uncut ... leaving you and the likes of you others with egg all over your head ... it will be a long time before any trust a republican ... oh wait many don't

here you go dipshit....the whole video...posted at NPR....

Undercover Video Targets Planned Parenthood The Two-Way NPR

Again......they killed babies and sold their organs....

you need to go a watch it dumb fuck and grasp it ... it was one person speaking with out totally thinking dumb fuck

 

[billyerock1991]

NaziCons were wrong about ACORN. NaziCons will be proven wrong about Planned Parenthood. But they will never apologize!

Exactly how were they wrong about ACORN? Ten bucks says Shitting Bull can't explain it

GASP!!!!! Huffpo...the far left loon site? The video doesn't lie....they are selling baby parts

no they aren't .... they are charging for what it cost them ... they are a non-profit ...so for you to make your false accusation is incomprehensible ...

if you have medical people in your family, like I do, they all talk like she did ... they see this kind of activity with bodies every day... day in, day out ... so if you're supposed to be talking to a biochemical operation you don't color coat you tell it strait ... the fact that you right to lifers can't stomach it is your problem ...

LOL They got caught....true story

it's no different then the acorn thing you republicans twist ... the fact was they claim they got caught ... I have come to believe that republicans have to lie about everything to justify the means ... tell me this, why didn't they release the whole recording instead of short clips edited to justify their means ??? why ??? if it is what you say, they were caught ... then why only just parts of it to justify their means ... if we dems/liberals did this you would be all up in the press demanding it to be shown... don't you ask yourself why or do you just run with it to justify your position... when they are taken to court, and we know they will be they will be forced to air the whole thing uncut ... leaving you and the likes of you others with egg all over your head ... it will be a long time before any trust a republican ... oh wait many don't

here you go dipshit....the whole video...posted at NPR....

Undercover Video Targets Planned Parenthood The Two-Way NPR

Again......they killed babies and sold their organs....

you need to go a watch it dumb fuck and grasp it ... it was one person speaking with out totally thinking dumb fuck

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAT NPR ??? that commie lying site ??? now you believe it 100% ??? really ??? WOW !!!! will wonders never end

 

[Katzndogz]

The IRS thought it was some kind of biomedicine charity.

WASHINGTON -- The anti-abortion group that released an undercover "sting" video of a Planned Parenthood doctor this week appears to be a dummy nonprofit that may have deceived the Internal Revenue Service and the public about its mission.

The two-year-old Center for Medical Progress, which claims to be in the business of reporting on biomedical research, released undercover footage Tuesday of a Planned Parenthood doctor allegedly discussing the sale of fetal body parts after abortions. The video, which Planned Parenthood has denounced as misleading and heavily edited, was circulated widely and prompted House Republicans to launch an investigation into the family planning provider.

But as Slate reports, the Center for Medical Progress appears to be nothing more than a front organization for the anti-abortion group Live Action. That is not how the IRS understood it when considering the group's application for tax-exempt status, and not how the group originally presented itself to the public in soliciting donations.

If the Center for Medical Progress deliberately misled the IRS and donors about the nature of its nonprofit work, it could be subject to civil and criminal fraud penalties. IRS forms are signed under penalty of perjury, and a nonprofit misleading its donors about the nature of its work is "up there with all other kinds of fraud," according to Bruce Hopkins, an attorney who specializes in nonprofit law.

"The authorities have the right to shut down the charity, and the individuals behind the fraud can go to prison or pay a substantial fine," Hopkins said.

Planned Parenthood President Cecile Richards apologized in a video on Thursday for Nucatola's tone and statements in the video, but she maintained that the allegations about selling fetal body parts were "not true." Richards said that women seeking abortions sometimes choose to donate fetal tissue for scientific and medical research, and that Planned Parenthood follows "all laws and ethical guidelines" in doing so and makes no profit from the donations.

More: Group Behind Planned Parenthood Sting Video May Have Tricked IRS, Donors

The anti-choice zealots have no shame.

Dear Lakhota
RE: The anti-choice zealots have no shame
What about the shooting of abortion doctors or attacks on clinics?
When people are willing to break the law, even shoot a doctor in church,
to make a public statement, what does that tell you?

To be fair to prolife advocates who are lawabiding, and don't seek to violate laws or rights of others,
if you can imagine what it's like to BELIEVE and count all those unborn babies
as "murdered children" you might be able to sympathize with prolife believers.

If you can understand the outrage of people arguing "Black Lives Matter"
while watching Black people killed as if they don't count, but are just random numbers and not people,
THAT might be similar to how prolife people feel who grieve for aborted babies, and take
on the horror and emotions of the experiences of abortion, that other people seem to deny as nonexistent.

Of if you can understand people protesting the killing of innocent civilians in war,
while surrounded by others who treat these "numbers" as random "collateral damage"
and don't have any sense that a person was lost, who had a life, and relations with others
that are now gone, leaving behind a hole in the world where that person is now missing.

Maybe THAT might relate to how prolife people feel "horrified"
that nobody is considering the life of the child and the loss and suffering.

From THAT perspective, Lakhota, don't you think the
"prochoice" people appear to have "no shame" either?

First, no one supports killing the doctors who murder babies. Second, millions of innocent babies murdered vs. a one or two baby murderers....and of course you side with the ones murdering babies.......you need to get your moral compass installed since you obviously don't have one.

You cry for Dr. tiller "the baby killer" known for his prolific partial birth abortion practice, and yet dismiss the innocent babies he killed.

Tiller was like Kermit Gosnell but worse. The man that killed him did the world a favor. Performing abortions to get body parts is a whole new level of barbarity. It's a moneymaker though. They get paid for the abortion and get paid for the body parts.

Since the body parts of unborn children turn a profit perhaps they should be farmed.

 

[BlueGin]

The whole thread is just a transparent attempt to deflect, which pretty much confirms that the original story is damaging.

But we can all play along.

.

Exactly