Gun confiscation already underway in NY

Bad judgment on her part, no doubt, but this law in New York wouldn't have stopped Newtown had it been in place in Connecticut, so I'm not getting the point of your retort other than you clearly support infringing on people's rights, which is not surprising, because that's what so called "liberals" do. You don't fight for people's rights; you fight to take them away.

This from the anti-gay marriage, anti-gay adoption, anti-right to privacy crowd.

:confused: What are you talking about?
 
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It will be So Great when ATF database is merged with the ObamaCare one!

Just think how many people can be targeted for gun seizures because they take medication!

The cops will be able to show up even if they don't have guns, just to be safe.
 
How did keeping guns in the house with a mental patient work out?

Was he a committed mental patient, that was judicially proven to be a harm to himself, and thus committed?

Stop playing lawyer and lets use common sense.

Doctors and Psychologists need to be clear in no uncertain terms that a patient is unstable, suicidal or a potential threat to himself or others. Parents and spouses need to be warned not to keep guns in the house. If the patient goes out and buys guns...take them away

In case after case everyone is scared to death of the shooter, afraid to be alone with him, know that he is getting worse......and they do nothing

Take his fucking guns away and notify authorities that he should not be buying guns

We need the government to tell us when people are dangerous? Did they suddenly develop an infallible process of determining who is dangerous and who is not? If they have, wouldn't it make more sense to lock the dangerous people up rather than taking away the freedom of people who are not dangerous?
 
Stop playing lawyer and lets use common sense.

Doctors and Psychologists need to be clear in no uncertain terms that a patient is unstable, suicidal or a potential threat to himself or others. Parents and spouses need to be warned not to keep guns in the house. If the patient goes out and buys guns...take them away

In case after case everyone is scared to death of the shooter, afraid to be alone with him, know that he is getting worse......and they do nothing

Take his fucking guns away and notify authorities that he should not be buying guns

So who elected said doctors and pyschologists to an office where they can decide which of my rights to violate?

And those guns were not his. He had to kill his mother to get his hands on them.

What I said was that doctors STRONGLY recommend that guns be removed from the house and be clear about potential consequences

His mother was repeatedly telling people that she was afraid of Adam and yet still kept an arsenal of guns in the house....it cost her life and that of 26 others

What you said is bullshit.

This comes from a person who made a post that his mother was trying to have him committed, which was also bullshit. I was wrong, there is no evidence that she wanted to have Adam committed, it is nothing but an internet rumor. I fell for it, now I know better.
 
Keep guns away from Mental Patients

Works for me.....would have worked in Newtown

So trannies should be denied gun rights?

Not to mention rape victims who get counseling, homosexuals who are having trouble adjusting to their feelings, and mothers who are suffering from depression after all the hormonal changes they went through. I bet you thought Democrats were all for women and gay people.
 
What I said was that doctors STRONGLY recommend that guns be removed from the house and be clear about potential consequences

His mother was repeatedly telling people that she was afraid of Adam and yet still kept an arsenal of guns in the house....it cost her life and that of 26 others

and if they recommend that to someone in the government, that person in the government needs to go in front of a judge, and show cause to remove said person's rights. At said hearing the person accused needs to be present, and afforded all rights those accused of a crime are, such as right to counsel and presumed innocence, (i.e. you cant take the guns before and then make the person wait 6 months for a court date).

While this is generally correct, there are exceptions. I am pretty sure that the department of health still has the right to quarantine a place or person who has a highly contagoius and dangerous disease. I know that they used to to this to tuburculosis patients. They also did it to typhoid Mary, but that was around the turn of the century. I know for a fact that in tax courts, the government has the right to collect taxes they say you owe, and you are forced to prove that you do not owe them, before they give it back. The Japanese-Americans had no day in court, before they were sent to concentration camps on the west coast in WW2. People are routinely put into jail without a hearing, although they must go through due process in a timely manner soon thereafter. Nobody can even remember how long the Gitmo prisoners have been in prison, without a trial. I feel sure that people who have been deemed to be a danger to themselves and others can be committed to an institution, and THEN given a day in court later. I am not advocating this. On the contrary, I find it reprehensable. neverhteless, there are exceptions to due process.

I am 100% positive you are wrong. If you were correct anyone who had HIV would be in quarantine, and it would stop spreading, at least in the US.
 
and if they recommend that to someone in the government, that person in the government needs to go in front of a judge, and show cause to remove said person's rights. At said hearing the person accused needs to be present, and afforded all rights those accused of a crime are, such as right to counsel and presumed innocence, (i.e. you cant take the guns before and then make the person wait 6 months for a court date).

While this is generally correct, there are exceptions. I am pretty sure that the department of health still has the right to quarantine a place or person who has a highly contagoius and dangerous disease. I know that they used to to this to tuburculosis patients. They also did it to typhoid Mary, but that was around the turn of the century. I know for a fact that in tax courts, the government has the right to collect taxes they say you owe, and you are forced to prove that you do not owe them, before they give it back. The Japanese-Americans had no day in court, before they were sent to concentration camps on the west coast in WW2. People are routinely put into jail without a hearing, although they must go through due process in a timely manner soon thereafter. Nobody can even remember how long the Gitmo prisoners have been in prison, without a trial. I feel sure that people who have been deemed to be a danger to themselves and others can be committed to an institution, and THEN given a day in court later. I am not advocating this. On the contrary, I find it reprehensable. neverhteless, there are exceptions to due process.

I am 100% positive you are wrong. If you were correct anyone who had HIV would be in quarantine, and it would stop spreading, at least in the US.
People really believe this shit.

It's why they're so meh about the thought of our government taking even more rights from us. They're already certain they are living under the benevolent shelter of the government. What morons.
 
Was he a committed mental patient, that was judicially proven to be a harm to himself, and thus committed?

Stop playing lawyer and lets use common sense.

Doctors and Psychologists need to be clear in no uncertain terms that a patient is unstable, suicidal or a potential threat to himself or others. Parents and spouses need to be warned not to keep guns in the house. If the patient goes out and buys guns...take them away

In case after case everyone is scared to death of the shooter, afraid to be alone with him, know that he is getting worse......and they do nothing

Take his fucking guns away and notify authorities that he should not be buying guns

We need the government to tell us when people are dangerous? Did they suddenly develop an infallible process of determining who is dangerous and who is not? If they have, wouldn't it make more sense to lock the dangerous people up rather than taking away the freedom of people who are not dangerous?

Remember what happened when the government took on these powers in Nazi Germany and communist Soviet Union. This is the last thing we want.
 
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Was he a committed mental patient, that was judicially proven to be a harm to himself, and thus committed?

Stop playing lawyer and lets use common sense.

Doctors and Psychologists need to be clear in no uncertain terms that a patient is unstable, suicidal or a potential threat to himself or others. Parents and spouses need to be warned not to keep guns in the house. If the patient goes out and buys guns...take them away

In case after case everyone is scared to death of the shooter, afraid to be alone with him, know that he is getting worse......and they do nothing

Take his fucking guns away and notify authorities that he should not be buying guns

We need the government to tell us when people are dangerous? Did they suddenly develop an infallible process of determining who is dangerous and who is not? If they have, wouldn't it make more sense to lock the dangerous people up rather than taking away the freedom of people who are not dangerous?

Where does my post say anything about Government?
 

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