Gun control in Europe..now the left will change the debate...

[Brain357]

Ah yes, the criminals got some guns on the street. So the obvious solution is to get more guns out there on the street. So damned reasonable. An American has more chance of being killed by a fellow American with a gun than does a Frenchman of being killed by a terrorist.

This year, deaths by firearms will probably exceed motor vehicle deaths this year. We can all be proud of that.

Auto accidents are accidental, if you only include accidental deaths by guns it wouldn't even make it on the graph, because the number is about 500. BTW there are about 46 million more guns than cars.

And cars are used millions more each day. Obviously something used millions more will have more accidents. But if you look at how much they are used the rate of accidents with guns is way higher than cars.

Prove it, show me a study that compares the average number of accidents per use.

Accurately Comparing Death Rates from Motor Vehicle and Firearm Use

Deaths per round fired- 1 per 475 thousand (475,000)

Deaths per mile of motor vehicle travel- 1 per 60 million (60,000,000)

 

[OKTexas]

Ah yes, the criminals got some guns on the street. So the obvious solution is to get more guns out there on the street. So damned reasonable. An American has more chance of being killed by a fellow American with a gun than does a Frenchman of being killed by a terrorist.

This year, deaths by firearms will probably exceed motor vehicle deaths this year. We can all be proud of that.

Auto accidents are accidental, if you only include accidental deaths by guns it wouldn't even make it on the graph, because the number is about 500. BTW there are about 46 million more guns than cars.

And cars are used millions more each day. Obviously something used millions more will have more accidents. But if you look at how much they are used the rate of accidents with guns is way higher than cars.

Prove it, show me a study that compares the average number of accidents per use.

Accurately Comparing Death Rates from Motor Vehicle and Firearm Use

Deaths per round fired- 1 per 475 thousand (475,000)

Deaths per mile of motor vehicle travel- 1 per 60 million (60,000,000)

So if you look only at accidental rates you would have

1 in 100,000,000 accidental auto deaths per miles driven and
1 in 300,000,000 accidental gun deaths per rounds fired, wouldn't that make cars 3 times more dangerous?

You link also showed how dishonest Old Rocks graph was, it only used accidental deaths for motor vehicles and all gun deaths. Instead of the graph showing about 36 thousand motor vehicle deaths it should have been 50 thousand to make an honest comparison. Just shows how dishonest gun grabbers are.

What I also found interesting, just as many kill themselves with autos as guns, I wonder why gun grabbers never mention that?

 

[Rustic]

As I posted elsewhere....if the Paris attack had happened here first the anti gun left would have been all over it...demanding, again....

Assault weapon bans

Magazine bans

licensing gun owners

Registering guns

Universal background checks


the works.....and that would be before the blood had dried...,


Sadly for them, it happened in France first.....a country that has done every single thing the left wants here for gun control...and the French wheat even farther....they don't have assault weapon bans...they banned all military style guns for civilians..including pistols...they didn't limit magazines to 10 rounds...they banned all magazines....they license people who own hunting shotguns and require background checks and mental health checks

every last thing the American anti gun extremists only dream of when they are talking about gun owners and their sex organs......


but..........

it happened in France.....that is why the anti gun extremists have been so quiet about gun control....they hope we won't notice....

but we did notice...

Now thy have to do the magic trick......they have to change things around and where they argued that Europe was a gun control paradise....now they have to convince everyone that Europe is really worse than we are....

that they never really argued that Europe was a gun control paradise...that France is actually worse than Texas......as they argued it......and then they push this idea as if it was always what they believed......

Beware...the left wing gun grabbers are changing the debate....don't let them...

More gun control can never work...

...epic fail!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Rustic]

The US IS the Wild West, thanks to the New BS NRA/Pub corporate brainwash and the dupes, and it's they who believe the myths.. Over 80% want reform here, but big money is running the country. Great job, New BS GOP.

Cry me a river??

 

[2aguy]

Ah yes, the criminals got some guns on the street. So the obvious solution is to get more guns out there on the street. So damned reasonable. An American has more chance of being killed by a fellow American with a gun than does a Frenchman of being killed by a terrorist.

This year, deaths by firearms will probably exceed motor vehicle deaths this year. We can all be proud of that.

Auto accidents are accidental, if you only include accidental deaths by guns it wouldn't even make it on the graph, because the number is about 500. BTW there are about 46 million more guns than cars.

And cars are used millions more each day. Obviously something used millions more will have more accidents. But if you look at how much they are used the rate of accidents with guns is way higher than cars.

Prove it, show me a study that compares the average number of accidents per use.

Accurately Comparing Death Rates from Motor Vehicle and Firearm Use

Deaths per round fired- 1 per 475 thousand (475,000)

Deaths per mile of motor vehicle travel- 1 per 60 million (60,000,000)

So if you look only at accidental rates you would have

1 in 100,000,000 accidental auto deaths per miles driven and
1 in 300,000,000 accidental gun deaths per rounds fired, wouldn't that make cars 3 times more dangerous?

You link also showed how dishonest Old Rocks graph was, it only used accidental deaths for motor vehicles and all gun deaths. Instead of the graph showing about 36 thousand motor vehicle deaths it should have been 50 thousand to make an honest comparison. Just shows how dishonest gun grabbers are.

What I also found interesting, just as many kill themselves with autos as guns, I wonder why gun grabbers never mention that?

dishonest gun grabbers? is there any other kind?

 

[Rustic]

Auto accidents are accidental, if you only include accidental deaths by guns it wouldn't even make it on the graph, because the number is about 500. BTW there are about 46 million more guns than cars.

And cars are used millions more each day. Obviously something used millions more will have more accidents. But if you look at how much they are used the rate of accidents with guns is way higher than cars.

Prove it, show me a study that compares the average number of accidents per use.

Accurately Comparing Death Rates from Motor Vehicle and Firearm Use

Deaths per round fired- 1 per 475 thousand (475,000)

Deaths per mile of motor vehicle travel- 1 per 60 million (60,000,000)

So if you look only at accidental rates you would have

1 in 100,000,000 accidental auto deaths per miles driven and
1 in 300,000,000 accidental gun deaths per rounds fired, wouldn't that make cars 3 times more dangerous?

You link also showed how dishonest Old Rocks graph was, it only used accidental deaths for motor vehicles and all gun deaths. Instead of the graph showing about 36 thousand motor vehicle deaths it should have been 50 thousand to make an honest comparison. Just shows how dishonest gun grabbers are.

What I also found interesting, just as many kill themselves with autos as guns, I wonder why gun grabbers never mention that?

dishonest gun grabbers? is there any other kind?

...and they are spineless

 

[2aguy]

The US IS the Wild West, thanks to the New BS NRA/Pub corporate brainwash and the dupes, and it's they who believe the myths.. Over 80% want reform here, but big money is running the country. Great job, New BS GOP.

No...democrat neighborhoods in democrat cities are the Wild West....the majority of all murders actually happen there...,everywhere else...has the murder rate of Europe....

 

[francoHFW]

The US IS the Wild West, thanks to the New BS NRA/Pub corporate brainwash and the dupes, and it's they who believe the myths.. Over 80% want reform here, but big money is running the country. Great job, New BS GOP.

Cry me a river??

Disastrous brainwashed functional moron^^

 

[francoHFW]

The US IS the Wild West, thanks to the New BS NRA/Pub corporate brainwash and the dupes, and it's they who believe the myths.. Over 80% want reform here, but big money is running the country. Great job, New BS GOP.

No...democrat neighborhoods in democrat cities are the Wild West....the majority of all murders actually happen there...,everywhere else...has the murder rate of Europe....

Result of racist GOP policy and their idiot Drug War duh. Yup, just take out the poor people lol...

 

[Rustic]

Buy more guns and ammo...

 

[OKTexas]

Auto accidents are accidental, if you only include accidental deaths by guns it wouldn't even make it on the graph, because the number is about 500. BTW there are about 46 million more guns than cars.

And cars are used millions more each day. Obviously something used millions more will have more accidents. But if you look at how much they are used the rate of accidents with guns is way higher than cars.

Prove it, show me a study that compares the average number of accidents per use.

Accurately Comparing Death Rates from Motor Vehicle and Firearm Use

Deaths per round fired- 1 per 475 thousand (475,000)

Deaths per mile of motor vehicle travel- 1 per 60 million (60,000,000)

So if you look only at accidental rates you would have

1 in 100,000,000 accidental auto deaths per miles driven and
1 in 300,000,000 accidental gun deaths per rounds fired, wouldn't that make cars 3 times more dangerous?

You link also showed how dishonest Old Rocks graph was, it only used accidental deaths for motor vehicles and all gun deaths. Instead of the graph showing about 36 thousand motor vehicle deaths it should have been 50 thousand to make an honest comparison. Just shows how dishonest gun grabbers are.

What I also found interesting, just as many kill themselves with autos as guns, I wonder why gun grabbers never mention that?

dishonest gun grabbers? is there any other kind?

I'm just glad the little puke posted the link, I wasn't aware there were 20 thousand vehicular suicides per year and the gun grabbers weren't including them vehicle deaths. Just puts one more round in the magazine.

 

[2aguy]

And cars are used millions more each day. Obviously something used millions more will have more accidents. But if you look at how much they are used the rate of accidents with guns is way higher than cars.

Prove it, show me a study that compares the average number of accidents per use.

Accurately Comparing Death Rates from Motor Vehicle and Firearm Use

Deaths per round fired- 1 per 475 thousand (475,000)

Deaths per mile of motor vehicle travel- 1 per 60 million (60,000,000)

So if you look only at accidental rates you would have

1 in 100,000,000 accidental auto deaths per miles driven and
1 in 300,000,000 accidental gun deaths per rounds fired, wouldn't that make cars 3 times more dangerous?

You link also showed how dishonest Old Rocks graph was, it only used accidental deaths for motor vehicles and all gun deaths. Instead of the graph showing about 36 thousand motor vehicle deaths it should have been 50 thousand to make an honest comparison. Just shows how dishonest gun grabbers are.

What I also found interesting, just as many kill themselves with autos as guns, I wonder why gun grabbers never mention that?

dishonest gun grabbers? is there any other kind?

I'm just glad the little puke posted the link, I wasn't aware there were 20 thousand vehicular suicides per year and the gun grabbers weren't including them vehicle deaths. Just puts one more round in the magazine.

are you really surprised they would fail to mention that? didn't think so.

 

[2aguy]

thanks for pointing that out........

soooooooo..just as many people use cars to commit suicide as guns...hmmmm

 

[Brain357]

Ah yes, the criminals got some guns on the street. So the obvious solution is to get more guns out there on the street. So damned reasonable. An American has more chance of being killed by a fellow American with a gun than does a Frenchman of being killed by a terrorist.

This year, deaths by firearms will probably exceed motor vehicle deaths this year. We can all be proud of that.

Auto accidents are accidental, if you only include accidental deaths by guns it wouldn't even make it on the graph, because the number is about 500. BTW there are about 46 million more guns than cars.

And cars are used millions more each day. Obviously something used millions more will have more accidents. But if you look at how much they are used the rate of accidents with guns is way higher than cars.

Prove it, show me a study that compares the average number of accidents per use.

Accurately Comparing Death Rates from Motor Vehicle and Firearm Use

Deaths per round fired- 1 per 475 thousand (475,000)

Deaths per mile of motor vehicle travel- 1 per 60 million (60,000,000)

So if you look only at accidental rates you would have

1 in 100,000,000 accidental auto deaths per miles driven and
1 in 300,000,000 accidental gun deaths per rounds fired, wouldn't that make cars 3 times more dangerous?

You link also showed how dishonest Old Rocks graph was, it only used accidental deaths for motor vehicles and all gun deaths. Instead of the graph showing about 36 thousand motor vehicle deaths it should have been 50 thousand to make an honest comparison. Just shows how dishonest gun grabbers are.

What I also found interesting, just as many kill themselves with autos as guns, I wonder why gun grabbers never mention that?

Ah yes, the criminals got some guns on the street. So the obvious solution is to get more guns out there on the street. So damned reasonable. An American has more chance of being killed by a fellow American with a gun than does a Frenchman of being killed by a terrorist.

This year, deaths by firearms will probably exceed motor vehicle deaths this year. We can all be proud of that.

Auto accidents are accidental, if you only include accidental deaths by guns it wouldn't even make it on the graph, because the number is about 500. BTW there are about 46 million more guns than cars.

And cars are used millions more each day. Obviously something used millions more will have more accidents. But if you look at how much they are used the rate of accidents with guns is way higher than cars.

Prove it, show me a study that compares the average number of accidents per use.

Accurately Comparing Death Rates from Motor Vehicle and Firearm Use

Deaths per round fired- 1 per 475 thousand (475,000)

Deaths per mile of motor vehicle travel- 1 per 60 million (60,000,000)

So if you look only at accidental rates you would have

1 in 100,000,000 accidental auto deaths per miles driven and
1 in 300,000,000 accidental gun deaths per rounds fired, wouldn't that make cars 3 times more dangerous?

You link also showed how dishonest Old Rocks graph was, it only used accidental deaths for motor vehicles and all gun deaths. Instead of the graph showing about 36 thousand motor vehicle deaths it should have been 50 thousand to make an honest comparison. Just shows how dishonest gun grabbers are.

What I also found interesting, just as many kill themselves with autos as guns, I wonder why gun grabbers never mention that?

Think you have some bad math. 1 per 24,000,000 for gun accidents. 4X more dangerous than cars.

 

[Brain357]

thanks for pointing that out........

soooooooo..just as many people use cars to commit suicide as guns...hmmmm

Was new to me too. Is interesting.

 

[2aguy]

Yeah....using a link you haven't fully vetted is a problem......20,000 suicides by car........

that is not going to go away anytime soon.............

 

[2aguy]

Auto accidents are accidental, if you only include accidental deaths by guns it wouldn't even make it on the graph, because the number is about 500. BTW there are about 46 million more guns than cars.

And cars are used millions more each day. Obviously something used millions more will have more accidents. But if you look at how much they are used the rate of accidents with guns is way higher than cars.

Prove it, show me a study that compares the average number of accidents per use.

Accurately Comparing Death Rates from Motor Vehicle and Firearm Use

Deaths per round fired- 1 per 475 thousand (475,000)

Deaths per mile of motor vehicle travel- 1 per 60 million (60,000,000)

So if you look only at accidental rates you would have

1 in 100,000,000 accidental auto deaths per miles driven and
1 in 300,000,000 accidental gun deaths per rounds fired, wouldn't that make cars 3 times more dangerous?

You link also showed how dishonest Old Rocks graph was, it only used accidental deaths for motor vehicles and all gun deaths. Instead of the graph showing about 36 thousand motor vehicle deaths it should have been 50 thousand to make an honest comparison. Just shows how dishonest gun grabbers are.

What I also found interesting, just as many kill themselves with autos as guns, I wonder why gun grabbers never mention that?

Auto accidents are accidental, if you only include accidental deaths by guns it wouldn't even make it on the graph, because the number is about 500. BTW there are about 46 million more guns than cars.

And cars are used millions more each day. Obviously something used millions more will have more accidents. But if you look at how much they are used the rate of accidents with guns is way higher than cars.

Prove it, show me a study that compares the average number of accidents per use.

Accurately Comparing Death Rates from Motor Vehicle and Firearm Use

Deaths per round fired- 1 per 475 thousand (475,000)

Deaths per mile of motor vehicle travel- 1 per 60 million (60,000,000)

So if you look only at accidental rates you would have

1 in 100,000,000 accidental auto deaths per miles driven and
1 in 300,000,000 accidental gun deaths per rounds fired, wouldn't that make cars 3 times more dangerous?

You link also showed how dishonest Old Rocks graph was, it only used accidental deaths for motor vehicles and all gun deaths. Instead of the graph showing about 36 thousand motor vehicle deaths it should have been 50 thousand to make an honest comparison. Just shows how dishonest gun grabbers are.

What I also found interesting, just as many kill themselves with autos as guns, I wonder why gun grabbers never mention that?

Think you have some bad math. 1 per 24,000,000 for gun accidents. 4X more dangerous than cars.

Sorry brain....accidental gun deaths...in 2013....505...in a country of over 320 million people...with 13 million people carrying guns......

guns are not a problem.....unless you live in a voting district that votes democrat....democrats shoot people more...

 

[2aguy]

Joe is going to be very mad at you Brain.......

 

[Brain357]

And cars are used millions more each day. Obviously something used millions more will have more accidents. But if you look at how much they are used the rate of accidents with guns is way higher than cars.

Prove it, show me a study that compares the average number of accidents per use.

Accurately Comparing Death Rates from Motor Vehicle and Firearm Use

Deaths per round fired- 1 per 475 thousand (475,000)

Deaths per mile of motor vehicle travel- 1 per 60 million (60,000,000)

So if you look only at accidental rates you would have

1 in 100,000,000 accidental auto deaths per miles driven and
1 in 300,000,000 accidental gun deaths per rounds fired, wouldn't that make cars 3 times more dangerous?

You link also showed how dishonest Old Rocks graph was, it only used accidental deaths for motor vehicles and all gun deaths. Instead of the graph showing about 36 thousand motor vehicle deaths it should have been 50 thousand to make an honest comparison. Just shows how dishonest gun grabbers are.

What I also found interesting, just as many kill themselves with autos as guns, I wonder why gun grabbers never mention that?

And cars are used millions more each day. Obviously something used millions more will have more accidents. But if you look at how much they are used the rate of accidents with guns is way higher than cars.

Prove it, show me a study that compares the average number of accidents per use.

Accurately Comparing Death Rates from Motor Vehicle and Firearm Use

Deaths per round fired- 1 per 475 thousand (475,000)

Deaths per mile of motor vehicle travel- 1 per 60 million (60,000,000)

So if you look only at accidental rates you would have

1 in 100,000,000 accidental auto deaths per miles driven and
1 in 300,000,000 accidental gun deaths per rounds fired, wouldn't that make cars 3 times more dangerous?

You link also showed how dishonest Old Rocks graph was, it only used accidental deaths for motor vehicles and all gun deaths. Instead of the graph showing about 36 thousand motor vehicle deaths it should have been 50 thousand to make an honest comparison. Just shows how dishonest gun grabbers are.

What I also found interesting, just as many kill themselves with autos as guns, I wonder why gun grabbers never mention that?

Think you have some bad math. 1 per 24,000,000 for gun accidents. 4X more dangerous than cars.

Sorry brain....accidental gun deaths...in 2013....505...in a country of over 320 million people...with 13 million people carrying guns......

guns are not a problem.....unless you live in a voting district that votes democrat....democrats shoot people more...

They are far more dangerous than cars and well that is like 500 more deaths than any other civilized country. Problem is relative.

 

[Brain357]

Joe is going to be very mad at you Brain.......

Nobody should run from the facts. You should know I'm all for honest discussion.