Daryl Hunt
Your Worst Nightmare
- Banned
- #41
Gun nuts are always good people with guns right up until they aren't. You consider every armed thug to be a good person with a gun unless he has been convicted of gun crime.
No.... actual criminals have long histories of crime and violence going back to their teen years.....normal, law abiding people who use guns for self defense only use their gun to protect themselves and others......
It is you who obviously prefers the outcome in a rape is the woman beaten, raped and possibly murdered, rather than she have the choice to buy, own and carry a gun to stop the attack...that is where you land on this issue.....dittos other crimes that are stopped by good people with guns...you prefer they suffer at the hands of the criminal rather than stopping the criminal..
That is the choice you want...more victims, not less....and you even support the democrat party, that works constantly to let violent criminals out of prison...that too is on you.
Yet, without background checks there is no way of knowing about those long histories of crime and violence, is there?
What are you talking about? Criminals have criminal records.....when they are arrested, in the commission of a crime or with an illegal gun in their possession, the cop runs their name and history, and they can then be arrested.......and locked up....then released by people like you, where they go on to commit another crime.
Background checks do nothing to stop criminals or mass shooters from getting guns. What they do? Is allow you and anti-gunners to demand gun registration...because after you get universal background checks, criminals will still get illegal guns, and mass public shooters will still get guns.....then you will come forward and say..we need to register all guns.....knowing, since I keep telling you, that criminals do not have to register their illegal guns since it violates their 5th Amendment Rights against self incrimination....
Haynes v. United States - Wikipedia
Haynes argued that, because he was a convicted felon and thus prohibited from owning a firearm, requiring him to register was essentially requiring him to make an open admission to the government that he was in violation of the law, which was thus a violation of his right not to incriminate himself.
Majority opinion[edit]
In a 7-1 decision, the Court ruled in 1968 in favor of Haynes. Earl Warren dissented in a one sentence opinion and Thurgood Marshall did not participate in the ruling.
As with many other 5th amendment cases, felons and others prohibited from possessing firearms could not be compelled to incriminate themselves through registration.[3][4] The National Firearms Act was amended after Haynes to make it apply only to those who could lawfully possess a firearm. This eliminated prosecution of prohibited persons, such as criminals, and cured the self-incrimination problem.
And mass public shooters will simply register their guns.....and then shoot people with them...
There is nothing about gun registration that makes any sense to normal people who know the issue..
Your claim is stupid. Background checks do work, and universal background checks would work better. I don't care how many times you say they don't, cause you are wrong.
No, background checks do now work.....you can't show how they work..... criminals steal their guns or use straw buyers..... mass shooters almost to a shooter have all undergone current, federal background checks which means they would be able to pass any universal background check for a private sale.
There is no intelligent argument for universal background checks that do not consist solely on getting universal gun registration...
Most illegal guns are purchased by straw purchasers in states that have lax background checks. And there are NO Federal requirements for background checks. It's state to state. Well, except for FFL sellers. Many states are not universal background check states and there is where the straw buyers go and gets their weapons they transport to the areas where the weapons bring the highest fees. The ARs and top line handguns go across the southern border to the cartels while the junk heads for the Gangs in the Metro Areas. You don't even need an ID or even be able to speak english to buy the guns. Your wet dream or nightmare that universal background checks means universal gun registration really needs some mental help. Now that the general public is no longer listening to your "They are coming for our guns" BS, you flip the 45 and start playing side B, "Background Checks leads directly to Universal Gun Registrations". After so many years of the same stupid song, I wonder what side C will be.