Gun sales will be specifically marked by credit companies to help monitor purchases

[whitehall]

Maybe credit card companies should monitor purchases of large quantities of marijuana.

 

[pknopp]

Illegally as well.

No, legally from your friends or neighbors.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

It doesn't work like that, moron.

It doesn’t?
So there’s no private sales or sellers?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

So...I knew this was proposed..now it's real! Best break out the cash, gun nutz...Uncle be watching your cc bill!

Gun sales will be specifically marked by credit companies to help monitor purchases

Based on new international standards, it's a step in the right direction for national gun reform.

mashable.com

Gun sales will be specifically earmarked in transaction histories, Visa Inc. announced on Sept. 10. It's a decision that will (hopefully) prevent these purchases from flying under the radar of investigators and help pinpoint suspicious sales surges. The change was also adopted by credit giants MasterCard and American Express.
The decision comes after a Sept. 9 announcement by the International Standards Organization, a global body that establishes standards across the financial services industry, that gun and ammunition merchandisers would be recategorized with their own commerce codes. Previously, these sales were lumped in with "general merchandise" or "miscellaneous" sales, or categorized under "sporting good stores" in a kind of recreational gray area. Now, the four-digit code for gun and ammunition sales will explicitly state the customer's transaction.
According to Guns Down America, a national gun violence prevention organization focused on legislative advocacy and reducing gun sales, many of the nation's worst mass shooting events — like those in Aurora, San Bernardino, Orlando, and Las Vegas — involved electronic payments for weapons and ammunition. Just in 2022, there have been more than 39,000 gun-related deaths and 425 mass shootings in the United States, according to the Gun Violence Archive.

"We could identify and detect where there may be gun sales that are intended for black markets, where we see patterns of gun purchases being made in multiple gun shops. We could see the patterns of behavior that would indicate to us that there is something not right here," explained Amalgamated Bank CEO Priscilla Sims Brown to CBS News during its investigation. "We have an obligation to address crime that is being facilitated through our system."

….shall not be infringed, Adolf

 

[CrusaderFrank]

No you don't.




I agree on addressing mental health as the main answer.

Should have ID and mental health check for voting as well, right?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

….shall not be infringed, Adolf

The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
There’s nothing stating what those arms can or should be. That would fall under the “well regulated” bit.

 

[The Duke]

Cash will be King again ?

Cash is always king, baby!

 

[The Duke]

It doesn’t?
So there’s no private sales or sellers?

Most guns sold at gun shows are by FFLs that require background checks.

There's more private sales in a neighborhood in a week than happen at any given gun show.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Most guns sold at gun shows are by FFLs that require background checks.

There's more private sales in a neighborhood in a week than happen at any given gun show.

That’s the point, dope. No background checks.
Not every gun show is a big event at your metropolitan convention center either.
Plenty at local small venues as well.
One every second Tuesday down at the VFW. Only $100 to get a table. All private sellers.

 

[pknopp]

Should have ID and mental health check for voting as well, right?

I never argued for either but don't let that stop you.

 

[hadit]

So...I knew this was proposed..now it's real! Best break out the cash, gun nutz...Uncle be watching your cc bill!

Gun sales will be specifically marked by credit companies to help monitor purchases

Based on new international standards, it's a step in the right direction for national gun reform.

mashable.com

Gun sales will be specifically earmarked in transaction histories, Visa Inc. announced on Sept. 10. It's a decision that will (hopefully) prevent these purchases from flying under the radar of investigators and help pinpoint suspicious sales surges. The change was also adopted by credit giants MasterCard and American Express.
The decision comes after a Sept. 9 announcement by the International Standards Organization, a global body that establishes standards across the financial services industry, that gun and ammunition merchandisers would be recategorized with their own commerce codes. Previously, these sales were lumped in with "general merchandise" or "miscellaneous" sales, or categorized under "sporting good stores" in a kind of recreational gray area. Now, the four-digit code for gun and ammunition sales will explicitly state the customer's transaction.
According to Guns Down America, a national gun violence prevention organization focused on legislative advocacy and reducing gun sales, many of the nation's worst mass shooting events — like those in Aurora, San Bernardino, Orlando, and Las Vegas — involved electronic payments for weapons and ammunition. Just in 2022, there have been more than 39,000 gun-related deaths and 425 mass shootings in the United States, according to the Gun Violence Archive.

"We could identify and detect where there may be gun sales that are intended for black markets, where we see patterns of gun purchases being made in multiple gun shops. We could see the patterns of behavior that would indicate to us that there is something not right here," explained Amalgamated Bank CEO Priscilla Sims Brown to CBS News during its investigation. "We have an obligation to address crime that is being facilitated through our system."

A way to implement registration without calling it registration.

 

[hadit]

That’s the point, dope. No background checks.
Not every gun show is a big event at your metropolitan convention center either.
Plenty at local small venues as well.
One every second Tuesday down at the VFW. Only $100 to get a table. All private sellers.

How many have you been to that you see this happening?

 

[hadit]

Just pay cash...good grief

Until cash becomes illegal.

 

[westwall]

The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
There’s nothing stating what those arms can or should be. That would fall under the “well regulated” bit.

Well regulated meant "in good working order" when the amendment was written.

Educate yourself, child.

 

[Failzero]

That’s the point, dope. No background checks.
Not every gun show is a big event at your metropolitan convention center either.
Plenty at local small venues as well.
One every second Tuesday down at the VFW. Only $100 to get a table. All private sellers.

And still all handguns and most modern Rifles have to have a BGC and that is by an FFF operating there to assist private ( Non FFL ) sellers ate even the smallest show at a moose lodge .

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

How many have you been to that you see this happening?

I've seen more small gun shows than large...and more than I could count.
There's one every week end..at least one. Gun shows are a favorite way to raise money for your organization, here in Idaho. If you want to skip the BGC...take it out to the parking lot~

Idaho's only laws regarding selling guns and ammo:


Idaho Code Ann. § 18-3302A: May not sell to a minor without written consent of parent or guardian, or to anyone who is prohibited by federal law from owning firearms.

Idaho Code Ann. § 18-3308: May not transfer ammunition to anyone under the age of 16.

Idaho Code Ann. § 18-8505: It is a felony to knowingly transfer a firearm to a gang member.

 

[M14 Shooter]

.If you want to skip the BGC...take it out to the parking lot~

If the seller is legally required under federal law to run a background check on a buyer, doing this violates that federal law.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

It's not a hole, it's great feature.

Besides the ATM companies have backed down since this old-ass thread was first posted by the resident leftist.

Another leftist dry hole.....You people should be right tired from the digging.

This is an example of the lies and dishonesty typical of the right.

Face-to-face intrastate firearm transactions between residents of the same state completed absent a 4473 and background check pursuant to Federal law facilitates prohibited persons acquiring guns, contributing to gun crime and violence.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

That’s the point, dope. No background checks.
Not every gun show is a big event at your metropolitan convention center either.
Plenty at local small venues as well.
One every second Tuesday down at the VFW. Only $100 to get a table. All private sellers.

It’s not just gun shows.

Indeed, the great majority of intrastate firearm transactions occur in all manner of private venues – gun clubs and ranges, parking lots, and even private homes, to note just a few.

 

[1srelluc]

This is an example of the lies and dishonesty typical of the right.

Face-to-face intrastate firearm transactions between residents of the same state completed absent a 4473 and background check pursuant to Federal law facilitates prohibited persons acquiring guns, contributing to gun crime and violence.

Meh, worked fine for me for years but as I can see you are a real pussy I'll explain.

I'd ask of a prospective buyer...Are you a prohibited person?, no, then fine give me you money, here's your gun, and have a nice day.....You know, how real men deal with each other without the .gov as a middle man sticking their nose in.