Gun violence in the world

[mudwhistle]

"The key facts are:

• The US has the highest gun ownership rate in the world - an average of 88 per 100 people. That puts it first in the world for gun ownership - and even the number two country, Yemen, has significantly fewer - 54.8 per 100 people
• But the US does not have the worst firearm murder rate - that prize belongs to Honduras, El Salvador and Jamaica. In fact, the US is number 28, with a rate of 2.97 per 100,000 people"

Gun homicides and gun ownership listed by country News The Guardian

So we have the highest gun ownership in the world, but despite that NOT the highest gun murder rate. We're 28th in the world in fact.

So how is gun availability linked to gun violence? It isn't. Simple as that.

Leftists are using gun-violence as an excuse to grab guns.
The truth is Obama tried to create a similar scenario along the border by selling military grade weapons to Mexican drug cartels. Instead it blew up in his face. Now he's trying to create an atmosphere of racial tension hoping that idiots will act upon it. He wasn't getting enough Sandyhooks to suit him, so he started riots in Ferguson and Baltimore, attacking police officers. The response was predictable. Blacks showing their asses in living color on television. The last highly visible event was the Texas pool party that resulted in the end of a police officer's career. Now Democrats are standing yet again on top of a pile of bodies in SC this time, using it to attack conservatives and gun ownership.

Does anyone believe that their constant sniping is improving race-relations?

 

[LOki]

Here is a comparison worthy of consideration:

Visualizing gun deaths - Comparing the U.S. to rest of the world

"Gun death" = meaningless tautology.

 

[LOki]

"The key facts are:

• The US has the highest gun ownership rate in the world - an average of 88 per 100 people. That puts it first in the world for gun ownership - and even the number two country, Yemen, has significantly fewer - 54.8 per 100 people
• But the US does not have the worst firearm murder rate - that prize belongs to Honduras, El Salvador and Jamaica. In fact, the US is number 28, with a rate of 2.97 per 100,000 people"

Gun homicides and gun ownership listed by country News The Guardian

So we have the highest gun ownership in the world, but despite that NOT the highest gun murder rate. We're 28th in the world in fact.

So how is gun availability linked to gun violence? It isn't. Simple as that.

Apples and antelopes isn't a comparison of worth. Compare the US with other Western Democracies and get back to us.

"Firearm-related homicide" = meaningless tautology.

 

[LOki]

Americans have been fed the lie that gun ownership keeps them safe for so long that they refuse to believe otherwise despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

There is no such "evidence."

You folks are scared to death of terrorists but fail to recognize that you are in more danger of being shot by a friend, neighbour or family member with a gun than being killed by a terrorist.

Strawman.

 

[Wry Catcher]

"The key facts are:

• The US has the highest gun ownership rate in the world - an average of 88 per 100 people. That puts it first in the world for gun ownership - and even the number two country, Yemen, has significantly fewer - 54.8 per 100 people
• But the US does not have the worst firearm murder rate - that prize belongs to Honduras, El Salvador and Jamaica. In fact, the US is number 28, with a rate of 2.97 per 100,000 people"

Gun homicides and gun ownership listed by country News The Guardian

So we have the highest gun ownership in the world, but despite that NOT the highest gun murder rate. We're 28th in the world in fact.

So how is gun availability linked to gun violence? It isn't. Simple as that.

Apples and antelopes isn't a comparison of worth. Compare the US with other Western Democracies and get back to us.

And of course you fail to point out that Americans use guns to stop or prevent violent criminal attack and save lives 2million times a year on Average...that is 2 million fewer lives shattered by violent criminals.....

2 million crimes stopped vs.

Accidental gun deaths 2013...505

Gun murders 2013....8,454


Which number is bigger? Even you should be able to do that math...

I know a guy whose ex brother-in-law was attacked by 43 thugs in a back alley in Detroit, and with only a hand gun was able to fight off 41, kill two and one five year old when an errant shot escaped the alley and hit the child in her mom's minivan.

True story, sorry, I don't have any facts to back it up, but that seems to be the theme with many of the posts by 2aguy and his brethren.

Asshole, all of the stories I post are culled from news reports of the event...I don't make them up. I site the source of news story.....but keep trying.......

Tee hee, "news stories"? Yeah sure, post the source. I do, you and the rest of the hacks pass of the meme, and since it's written on the Internet it must be true.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Americans have been fed the lie that gun ownership keeps them safe for so long that they refuse to believe otherwise despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

There is no such "evidence."

You folks are scared to death of terrorists but fail to recognize that you are in more danger of being shot by a friend, neighbour or family member with a gun than being killed by a terrorist.

Strawman.

This may help, you need it!

The Fallacy-a-Day Podcast An easy way to learn the logical fallacies. Published each day Monday-Friday.The Fallacy-a-Day Podcast An easy way to learn the logical fallacies. Published each day Monday-Friday.

 

[Wry Catcher]

"The key facts are:

• The US has the highest gun ownership rate in the world - an average of 88 per 100 people. That puts it first in the world for gun ownership - and even the number two country, Yemen, has significantly fewer - 54.8 per 100 people
• But the US does not have the worst firearm murder rate - that prize belongs to Honduras, El Salvador and Jamaica. In fact, the US is number 28, with a rate of 2.97 per 100,000 people"

Gun homicides and gun ownership listed by country News The Guardian

So we have the highest gun ownership in the world, but despite that NOT the highest gun murder rate. We're 28th in the world in fact.

So how is gun availability linked to gun violence? It isn't. Simple as that.

Apples and antelopes isn't a comparison of worth. Compare the US with other Western Democracies and get back to us.

"Firearm-related homicide" = meaningless tautology.

This may help, you need it!

Dictionary and Thesaurus Merriam-Webster

 

[CrusaderFrank]

A hilarious Australian stand-up comic explains what U.S. gun laws look like to the rest of the world

In 2008-2012, guns were used in 42,419 criminal homicides and only 1,108 justifiable homicides (defined as the killing of a felon during the commission of a felony by a private citizen), according to the report -- a ratio of 38 to 1.

We should what an Australian comedian says about us because..?

Progressives get their news and talking points from comedians

 

[LOki]

"The key facts are:

• The US has the highest gun ownership rate in the world - an average of 88 per 100 people. That puts it first in the world for gun ownership - and even the number two country, Yemen, has significantly fewer - 54.8 per 100 people
• But the US does not have the worst firearm murder rate - that prize belongs to Honduras, El Salvador and Jamaica. In fact, the US is number 28, with a rate of 2.97 per 100,000 people"

Gun homicides and gun ownership listed by country News The Guardian

So we have the highest gun ownership in the world, but despite that NOT the highest gun murder rate. We're 28th in the world in fact.

So how is gun availability linked to gun violence? It isn't. Simple as that.

Apples and antelopes isn't a comparison of worth. Compare the US with other Western Democracies and get back to us.

And of course you fail to point out that Americans use guns to stop or prevent violent criminal attack and save lives 2million times a year on Average...that is 2 million fewer lives shattered by violent criminals.....

2 million crimes stopped vs.

Accidental gun deaths 2013...505

Gun murders 2013....8,454


Which number is bigger? Even you should be able to do that math...

Let's do the math. According to you, 2 million crimes are stopped by guns a year. Given there are 365 days in a year, you are saying that 5480 per day are prevented or about 230 an hour....230 an hour....every hour of every day of the year.

I think we can stop considering you to be a serious commentator at this point.

You find it incredible that there are more than 230 significant population centers in the U.S.;
You find it incredible that once an hour in each and every population center more than one serious crime is being committed;
You find it incredible that among all those serious crimes committed hourly in each of those population centers, in only one instance an hour, someone might use a gun to protect themselves.

Some might find it incredible that the estimate of 2M DGU's/year is so low.

 

[LOki]

"The key facts are:

• The US has the highest gun ownership rate in the world - an average of 88 per 100 people. That puts it first in the world for gun ownership - and even the number two country, Yemen, has significantly fewer - 54.8 per 100 people
• But the US does not have the worst firearm murder rate - that prize belongs to Honduras, El Salvador and Jamaica. In fact, the US is number 28, with a rate of 2.97 per 100,000 people"

Gun homicides and gun ownership listed by country News The Guardian

So we have the highest gun ownership in the world, but despite that NOT the highest gun murder rate. We're 28th in the world in fact.

So how is gun availability linked to gun violence? It isn't. Simple as that.

Apples and antelopes isn't a comparison of worth. Compare the US with other Western Democracies and get back to us.

"Firearm-related homicide" = meaningless tautology.

This may help, you need it!

Dictionary and Thesaurus Merriam-Webster

Demonstrate, Cupcake.

 

[LOki]

Americans have been fed the lie that gun ownership keeps them safe for so long that they refuse to believe otherwise despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

There is no such "evidence."

You folks are scared to death of terrorists but fail to recognize that you are in more danger of being shot by a friend, neighbour or family member with a gun than being killed by a terrorist.

Strawman.

This may help, you need it!

The Fallacy-a-Day Podcast An easy way to learn the logical fallacies. Published each day Monday-Friday.The Fallacy-a-Day Podcast An easy way to learn the logical fallacies. Published each day Monday-Friday.

Demonstrate, Pumpkin.

 

[Dragonlady]

Well, would you prefer that we just make shit up like conservatives do?

 

[LOki]

Well, would you prefer that we just make shit up like conservatives do?

Presuming you're not one of these "conservatives" you reference; and that by "we" you're referencing the mainstream of gun-control proponents rather than 2nd Amendment rights proponents; what I'm saying is that I'd prefer that "you" not make shit up--if it is indeed your desire to have a rational conversation about reasonable firearms regulation.

 

[Wry Catcher]

A hilarious Australian stand-up comic explains what U.S. gun laws look like to the rest of the world

In 2008-2012, guns were used in 42,419 criminal homicides and only 1,108 justifiable homicides (defined as the killing of a felon during the commission of a felony by a private citizen), according to the report -- a ratio of 38 to 1.

We should what an Australian comedian says about us because..?

Progressives get their news and talking points from comedians

Conservatives for the most part are too dumb to understand that (Mark Twain, Wil Rogers for example - have you heard of them CF?) Letterman, Colbert and Stewart use humor, wit and even sarcasm to entertain and educate the people.

Conservative commentary, for the most part, eschews such rhetorical tools for severe criticisms and abject character assassinations (have you listened to Limbaugh, Hannity, Falwell and Robertson?) using lies, half-truths, innuendos, appeals to emotion (BENGHAZI!, SOLYNDRA!, FAST & FURIOUS, VOTER FRAUD, etc.) and the ever popular - in the set of the far right - a rewrite of history.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Americans have been fed the lie that gun ownership keeps them safe for so long that they refuse to believe otherwise despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

There is no such "evidence."

You folks are scared to death of terrorists but fail to recognize that you are in more danger of being shot by a friend, neighbour or family member with a gun than being killed by a terrorist.

Strawman.

This may help, you need it!

The Fallacy-a-Day Podcast An easy way to learn the logical fallacies. Published each day Monday-Friday.The Fallacy-a-Day Podcast An easy way to learn the logical fallacies. Published each day Monday-Friday.

Demonstrate, Pumpkin.

Nice try, but this post ^^^ didn't squash me.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

A hilarious Australian stand-up comic explains what U.S. gun laws look like to the rest of the world

In 2008-2012, guns were used in 42,419 criminal homicides and only 1,108 justifiable homicides (defined as the killing of a felon during the commission of a felony by a private citizen), according to the report -- a ratio of 38 to 1.

We should what an Australian comedian says about us because..?

Progressives get their news and talking points from comedians

Conservatives for the most part are too dumb to understand that (Mark Twain, Wil Rogers for example - have you heard of them CF?) Letterman, Colbert and Stewart use humor, wit and even sarcasm to entertain and educate the people.

Conservative commentary, for the most part, eschews such rhetorical tools for severe criticisms and abject character assassinations (have you listened to Limbaugh, Hannity, Falwell and Robertson?) using lies, half-truths, innuendos, appeals to emotion (BENGHAZI!, SOLYNDRA!, FAST & FURIOUS, VOTER FRAUD, etc.) and the ever popular - in the set of the far right - a rewrite of history.

Sure, Honey Boo Boo. It's been hard for you guys since both Steward AND Colbert dumped you and left you without your daily news feeds.

At least you admit you get your education from comedians

 

[candycorn]

Given that 2,000,000 fantasy, it translates into 230 preventions due to guns per hour....every single hour of every single day.

Pick a day in the future...lets say July 7...if you can show me 50 news stories on 7/7/15 detailing such preventions that occurred on 7/6/15...I'll buy the statistic.

Surely if there are 230 every hour of every day, 25% of them +/- get reported by the local newspapers/radio/tv...don't they?

Accept the challenge?

News stories? Is that what you take as meaningful evidence and investigation?

Yes, if 230 people per hour are whipping out their peace keepers and defending their homes/cars/loved ones against bad guys and shooting at them, it will make the news.

That you think this happens over 1,000 times a day is comical to say the least. I'm just asking for you to compile a measly 50 stories from across the nation citing such "heroics".

That is idiotic. You don’t even want an honest discussion on the topic if you are looking for news stories as some sort of evidence.

No, it's simply asking for proof.

That you balk at providing it tells us all we need to know. Besides that, if there were such an astounding number of shoot-outs happening every day, every one of us would know dozens of folks who were in those shoot outs.

I know a lot of people in 4-5 different states having lived all across the nation. I have never met one that was in one of these scenarios. I imagine that many (if not most) people reading this know of nobody who got into a shoot out to defend what is theirs.

 

[The Rabbi]

A hilarious Australian stand-up comic explains what U.S. gun laws look like to the rest of the world

In 2008-2012, guns were used in 42,419 criminal homicides and only 1,108 justifiable homicides (defined as the killing of a felon during the commission of a felony by a private citizen), according to the report -- a ratio of 38 to 1.

We should what an Australian comedian says about us because..?

Progressives get their news and talking points from comedians

Conservatives for the most part are too dumb to understand that (Mark Twain, Wil Rogers for example - have you heard of them CF?) Letterman, Colbert and Stewart use humor, wit and even sarcasm to entertain and educate the people.

Conservative commentary, for the most part, eschews such rhetorical tools for severe criticisms and abject character assassinations (have you listened to Limbaugh, Hannity, Falwell and Robertson?) using lies, half-truths, innuendos, appeals to emotion (BENGHAZI!, SOLYNDRA!, FAST & FURIOUS, VOTER FRAUD, etc.) and the ever popular - in the set of the far right - a rewrite of history.

Sure, Honey Boo Boo. It's been hard for you guys since both Steward AND Colbert dumped you and left you without your daily news feeds.

At least you admit you get your education from comedians

When Rachel Maddow gets quoted here as a serious news source you know the Progs are deluded.

 

[Wry Catcher]

A hilarious Australian stand-up comic explains what U.S. gun laws look like to the rest of the world

In 2008-2012, guns were used in 42,419 criminal homicides and only 1,108 justifiable homicides (defined as the killing of a felon during the commission of a felony by a private citizen), according to the report -- a ratio of 38 to 1.

We should what an Australian comedian says about us because..?

Progressives get their news and talking points from comedians

Conservatives for the most part are too dumb to understand that (Mark Twain, Wil Rogers for example - have you heard of them CF?) Letterman, Colbert and Stewart use humor, wit and even sarcasm to entertain and educate the people.

Conservative commentary, for the most part, eschews such rhetorical tools for severe criticisms and abject character assassinations (have you listened to Limbaugh, Hannity, Falwell and Robertson?) using lies, half-truths, innuendos, appeals to emotion (BENGHAZI!, SOLYNDRA!, FAST & FURIOUS, VOTER FRAUD, etc.) and the ever popular - in the set of the far right - a rewrite of history.

Sure, Honey Boo Boo. It's been hard for you guys since both Steward AND Colbert dumped you and left you without your daily news feeds.

At least you admit you get your education from comedians

Among other sources, I do. It's all about perspective, something absent in all of your Idiot-Grams. Don't you wonder why I believe you're a dolt? If you do go back and read your own posts - the evidence there is probative.

 

[The Rabbi]

A hilarious Australian stand-up comic explains what U.S. gun laws look like to the rest of the world

In 2008-2012, guns were used in 42,419 criminal homicides and only 1,108 justifiable homicides (defined as the killing of a felon during the commission of a felony by a private citizen), according to the report -- a ratio of 38 to 1.

We should what an Australian comedian says about us because..?

Progressives get their news and talking points from comedians

Conservatives for the most part are too dumb to understand that (Mark Twain, Wil Rogers for example - have you heard of them CF?) Letterman, Colbert and Stewart use humor, wit and even sarcasm to entertain and educate the people.

Conservative commentary, for the most part, eschews such rhetorical tools for severe criticisms and abject character assassinations (have you listened to Limbaugh, Hannity, Falwell and Robertson?) using lies, half-truths, innuendos, appeals to emotion (BENGHAZI!, SOLYNDRA!, FAST & FURIOUS, VOTER FRAUD, etc.) and the ever popular - in the set of the far right - a rewrite of history.

Sure, Honey Boo Boo. It's been hard for you guys since both Steward AND Colbert dumped you and left you without your daily news feeds.

At least you admit you get your education from comedians

Among other sources, I do. It's all about perspective, something absent in all of your Idiot-Grams. Don't you wonder why I believe you're a dolt? If you do go back and read your own posts - the evidence there is probative.

You admit to getting your news from comedians and then call someone else a dolt? Getouttatown!