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Ok, we should lock people for what they might do.
The DC shooter, liberal.
Boston bombers, liberal.
Recent threats by liberal professor to murder the kids of gun owners.
You, as a liberal are an extreme risk to the well being of children.
You should be locked up in a padded cell where you can no longer do harm to children.
That work for ya?
Okay, not seeing how the DC Shooter was a liberal, but the boston bombers were very conservative Muslims. In fact, take out the Muslim part, they were probably in agreement with you wingnuts in a lot of ways. They loved guns and hated women controlling their own lady-parts.
So one more time. Do you think crazy people should be allowed to buy guns or not?
I think it's a pretty awful idea....
The DC shooter, according to his family was an Obama supporter.
Boston bombers, 4 of the 5 terrorists were liberals.
Educated in hatred of America in public schools.
At least two at the Cambridge Rindge (syringe) and Latin academy in the people's republic of Cambridge.
The Boston bombers loved guns ?
Show evidence?
They hated America because their unionized liberal teachers taught them to.
Should mentally ill people be allowed to purchase firearms?
Define mentally ill?
Was Adam lanzas mother mentally Ill?
Mentall illness covers a broad range of conditions.
Depression.
Drink problems.
Pain killer addiction.
Stress .
Give clear definition, then the subject can be looked at.
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The DC shooter, according to his family was an Obama supporter.
Boston bombers, 4 of the 5 terrorists were liberals.
Educated in hatred of America in public schools.
At least two at the Cambridge Rindge (syringe) and Latin academy in the people's republic of Cambridge.
The Boston bombers loved guns ?
Show evidence?
They hated America because their unionized liberal teachers taught them to.
at.
Guy, are you some kind of fucking retard or what?
The Boston Bombers- well, there were ONLY TWO OF THEM, and they both came from Chechyna.
And, oh, yeah, they had guns on them when they had a shootout with police.
Seriously, man, get some help.
If the gun is stolen you report it to the police and then your clear. Of course if you seem to have too many guns stolen then there is a problem. Now people can't just sell guns to criminals.
It is a crime to sell a gun to a criminal even if you are a private citizen, but you want to make people who don't break the law into criminals if they are the victim of a crime.
A crime to knowingly sell a gun to a felon yes. Without a background check I guess you take the guys word he isn't a felon?
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Legally they already can not. In this particular case Rhode Island Seattle and Dallas all failed to take the appropriate steps. Further the navy was notified and failed to do anything. The laws are already on the books enforce the laws we have.
Exactly. The laws aren't being enforced.
Because the NRA doesn't want them enforced. Or strengthened.
Thank you for proving my point.
Hey, you know what, when you come home and find someone broke into your house and took your wide-screen and your computer, you don't say, "Well, I had a lock!"
Nope. You get a tougher door. You maybe get better locks on the other doors they didn't enter in through. If you are feeling really inventive, you might even put bars on the windows even though they didn't even get in that way.
That's what you'd do if you had a lick of sense.
Clearly, the gun laws in place were INADEQUATE to keep Aaron Alexis from getting a gun.
Clearly, Aaron Alexis never should have been able to BUY a gun.
I mean, this is not fucking complicated, really.
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Define mentally ill?
Was Adam lanzas mother mentally Ill?
Mentall illness covers a broad range of conditions.
Depression.
Drink problems.
Pain killer addiction.
Stress .
Give clear definition, then the subject can be looked at.
Yeah, actually, I think Nancy Lanza was mentally ill. someone who thinks she needs 12 guns, some of them military grade, while living in a nice, cushy CT Suburb, is probably suffering from some serious problems.
And, yeah, I think that if you suffer from minor issues like depression or pain killer addiction, you shouldn't have a gun.
19,000 sucidies with guns. Probably would be nice to cut down on those.
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Legally they already can not. In this particular case Rhode Island Seattle and Dallas all failed to take the appropriate steps. Further the navy was notified and failed to do anything. The laws are already on the books enforce the laws we have.
Exactly. The laws aren't being enforced.
Because the NRA doesn't want them enforced. Or strengthened.
Thank you for proving my point.
Hey, you know what, when you come home and find someone broke into your house and took your wide-screen and your computer, you don't say, "Well, I had a lock!"
Nope. You get a tougher door. You maybe get better locks on the other doors they didn't enter in through. If you are feeling really inventive, you might even put bars on the windows even though they didn't even get in that way.
That's what you'd do if you had a lick of sense.
Clearly, the gun laws in place were INADEQUATE to keep Aaron Alexis from getting a gun.
Clearly, Aaron Alexis never should have been able to BUY a gun.
I mean, this is not fucking complicated, really.
How, EXACTLY, does the NRA keep local County, state and federal agencies from doing thier jobs? Be specific.
IIt is a crime to sell a gun to a criminal even if you are a private citizen, but you want to make people who don't break the law into criminals if they are the victim of a crime.
A crime to knowingly sell a gun to a felon yes. Without a background check I guess you take the guys word he isn't a felon?
The background checks worked well for Alexis .......
The government couldn't organize a piss up in a brewery.
I would rather take charge of my own safety.
Exactly. The laws aren't being enforced.
Because the NRA doesn't want them enforced. Or strengthened.
Thank you for proving my point.
Hey, you know what, when you come home and find someone broke into your house and took your wide-screen and your computer, you don't say, "Well, I had a lock!"
Nope. You get a tougher door. You maybe get better locks on the other doors they didn't enter in through. If you are feeling really inventive, you might even put bars on the windows even though they didn't even get in that way.
That's what you'd do if you had a lick of sense.
Clearly, the gun laws in place were INADEQUATE to keep Aaron Alexis from getting a gun.
Clearly, Aaron Alexis never should have been able to BUY a gun.
I mean, this is not fucking complicated, really.
How, EXACTLY, does the NRA keep local County, state and federal agencies from doing thier jobs? Be specific.
Because they are terrorists!!
We should murder their kids!!
The best and most practical method of gun control us tge excellent systems we have in place already.
We have extensive background checks on application for the license.
A 5 day waiting period, with further background checks.
Limits on the weapons that may be purchased by different groups.
Different types of licenses.
It's a long and arduous process to purchase a rifle or a shotgun, longer again to buy a handgun.
That's before we even get into the costs involved, safety courses, fees, more fees and then the purchase price of the weapon!!
The costs associated with buying a shotgun are more than the price of the shotgun.
Then the time limits on licenses.
It is actually easier to buy a shotgun in the UK!!
Except that's not what happened here.
What happened here was that Aaron Alexis walked into a VA gun store, and they let him walk out with a gun with no background check.
A background check would have found out he was involved in at least two previous incidents involving guns. Guns that must have been taken away from him or he would have still had them.
A background check would have found that he had reported "hearing voices".
I'm reasonably sure he didn't take any safety courses, either.
IA crime to knowingly sell a gun to a felon yes. Without a background check I guess you take the guys word he isn't a felon?
The background checks worked well for Alexis .......
The government couldn't organize a piss up in a brewery.
I would rather take charge of my own safety.
Obviously we need to put something in regarding mental health. If a psychologist is worried someone is dangerous they should be able to put that person on a no gun buy list.
Well it's currently not that hard to get around background checks. Even if they had stopped him he could have bought a gun from a neighbor with no background check.
How, EXACTLY, does the NRA keep local County, state and federal agencies from doing thier jobs? Be specific.
Because they are terrorists!!
We should murder their kids!!
Your realize you sound WAY more crazy than the original guy right?
By writing the 'gun control' legislation that PROHIBITED funding for extensive national data bases so adequate back ground checks could be performed. By specifically prohibiting funding to the CDC for comprehensive studies concerning gun violence. The NRA writes the legislation the most ardent gun loving legislators introduce.[
Legally they already can not. In this particular case Rhode Island Seattle and Dallas all failed to take the appropriate steps. Further the navy was notified and failed to do anything. The laws are already on the books enforce the laws we have.
Exactly. The laws aren't being enforced.
Because the NRA doesn't want them enforced. Or strengthened.
Thank you for proving my point.
Hey, you know what, when you come home and find someone broke into your house and took your wide-screen and your computer, you don't say, "Well, I had a lock!"
Nope. You get a tougher door. You maybe get better locks on the other doors they didn't enter in through. If you are feeling really inventive, you might even put bars on the windows even though they didn't even get in that way.
That's what you'd do if you had a lick of sense.
Clearly, the gun laws in place were INADEQUATE to keep Aaron Alexis from getting a gun.
Clearly, Aaron Alexis never should have been able to BUY a gun.
I mean, this is not fucking complicated, really.
How, EXACTLY, does the NRA keep local County, state and federal agencies from doing thier jobs? Be specific.
In your opinion, is gun violence a public safety issue? If not, why not?I
The background checks worked well for Alexis .......
The government couldn't organize a piss up in a brewery.
I would rather take charge of my own safety.
Obviously we need to put something in regarding mental health. If a psychologist is worried someone is dangerous they should be able to put that person on a no gun buy list.
Well it's currently not that hard to get around background checks. Even if they had stopped him he could have bought a gun from a neighbor with no background check.
Punish people because they are ill?
Apply punishment without due process?
Apply punishment for something they might do?
Dosen't sound very American to me!!
I
The background checks worked well for Alexis .......
The government couldn't organize a piss up in a brewery.
I would rather take charge of my own safety.
Obviously we need to put something in regarding mental health. If a psychologist is worried someone is dangerous they should be able to put that person on a no gun buy list.
Well it's currently not that hard to get around background checks. Even if they had stopped him he could have bought a gun from a neighbor with no background check.
Punish people because they are ill?
Apply punishment without due process?
Apply punishment for something they might do?
Dosen't sound very American to me!!
The NRA tell cops not to arrest black criminals for illegal discharge of a firearm?By writing the 'gun control' legislation that PROHIBITED funding for extensive national data bases so adequate back ground checks could be performed. By specifically prohibiting funding to the CDC for comprehensive studies concerning gun violence. The NRA writes the legislation the most ardent gun loving legislators introduce.Exactly. The laws aren't being enforced.
Because the NRA doesn't want them enforced. Or strengthened.
Thank you for proving my point.
Hey, you know what, when you come home and find someone broke into your house and took your wide-screen and your computer, you don't say, "Well, I had a lock!"
Nope. You get a tougher door. You maybe get better locks on the other doors they didn't enter in through. If you are feeling really inventive, you might even put bars on the windows even though they didn't even get in that way.
That's what you'd do if you had a lick of sense.
Clearly, the gun laws in place were INADEQUATE to keep Aaron Alexis from getting a gun.
Clearly, Aaron Alexis never should have been able to BUY a gun.
I mean, this is not fucking complicated, really.
How, EXACTLY, does the NRA keep local County, state and federal agencies from doing thier jobs? Be specific.
That's on hell of a stretch! Back it up! I'm not a liar as much as you are patently ignorant. Prove your point, or accept the fact that you have no business writing about something you have no knowledge of.The NRA tell cops not to arrest black criminals for illegal discharge of a firearm?By writing the 'gun control' legislation that PROHIBITED funding for extensive national data bases so adequate back ground checks could be performed. By specifically prohibiting funding to the CDC for comprehensive studies concerning gun violence. The NRA writes the legislation the most ardent gun loving legislators introduce.How, EXACTLY, does the NRA keep local County, state and federal agencies from doing thier jobs? Be specific.
I'm calling it!!
You are a vile liar!!
Obviously we need to put something in regarding mental health. If a psychologist is worried someone is dangerous they should be able to put that person on a no gun buy list.
Well it's currently not that hard to get around background checks. Even if they had stopped him he could have bought a gun from a neighbor with no background check.
Punish people because they are ill?
Apply punishment without due process?
Apply punishment for something they might do?
Dosen't sound very American to me!!
Not letting them buy a gun to kill innocent people is ok with me. I guess the right prefers they can buy a gun and kill innocent people.
That's on hell of a stretch! Back it up! I'm not a liar as much as you are patently ignorant. Prove your point, or accept the fact that you have no business writing about something you have no knowledge of.The NRA tell cops not to arrest black criminals for illegal discharge of a firearm?By writing the 'gun control' legislation that PROHIBITED funding for extensive national data bases so adequate back ground checks could be performed. By specifically prohibiting funding to the CDC for comprehensive studies concerning gun violence. The NRA writes the legislation the most ardent gun loving legislators introduce.
I'm calling it!!
You are a vile liar!!
What I said was the NRA crafted legislation that bans money for studies about gun violence. Well, more to the point, the studies could be conducted, but there was no money for publishing them.
Liar.That's on hell of a stretch! Back it up! I'm not a liar as much as you are patently ignorant. Prove your point, or accept the fact that you have no business writing about something you have no knowledge of.The NRA tell cops not to arrest black criminals for illegal discharge of a firearm?By writing the 'gun control' legislation that PROHIBITED funding for extensive national data bases so adequate back ground checks could be performed. By specifically prohibiting funding to the CDC for comprehensive studies concerning gun violence. The NRA writes the legislation the most ardent gun loving legislators introduce.
I'm calling it!!
You are a vile liar!!
What I said was the NRA crafted legislation that bans money for studies about gun violence. Well, more to the point, the studies could be conducted, but there was no money for publishing them.
Poorly argued as usual. Are you a Conservative by choice, or did they recruit you for your wisdom and rhetorical acumen?Liar.That's on hell of a stretch! Back it up! I'm not a liar as much as you are patently ignorant. Prove your point, or accept the fact that you have no business writing about something you have no knowledge of.The NRA tell cops not to arrest black criminals for illegal discharge of a firearm?
I'm calling it!!
You are a vile liar!!
What I said was the NRA crafted legislation that bans money for studies about gun violence. Well, more to the point, the studies could be conducted, but there was no money for publishing them.
