Gunman wielded AK-47 inside Georgia school

[Edgetho]

Weird thing is these schools are gun free zones.

So....

What yer saying is that; Gun Laws don't work?

Amazing

 

[007]

 

[Wildman]

Canada and the UK--advanced democracies--have access to the same books, movies, Internet, etc... The cultures are subject to the same influences such as fashion, music, etc.

In 2007, the US had 10,000 homicides more than the UK.

The only reason is the 2nd Amendment it would appear.

THAT is one of the most idiotic statements i have read in this forum

2007AD the UK had an estimated population of 60,000,000

the USA had an estimated population of 300,000,000+

your comparison is like cows and turnips ...

 

[NightFox]

Weird thing is these schools are gun free zones.

So....

What yer saying is that; Gun Laws don't work?

Amazing

Yes Edge, apparently writing "Don't do this or else!" on a piece of paper poses no deterrent to sociopaths intent on committing mass murder, who'd have thunk it?

 

[candycorn]

Canada and the UK--advanced democracies--have access to the same books, movies, Internet, etc... The cultures are subject to the same influences such as fashion, music, etc.

In 2007, the US had 10,000 homicides more than the UK.

The only reason is the 2nd Amendment it would appear.

THAT is one of the most idiotic statements i have read in this forum

2007AD the UK had an estimated population of 60,000,000

the USA had an estimated population of 300,000,000+

your comparison is like cows and turnips ...

The figures are adjusted for the population:

The actual figures were something like 15,000 homicides in the US vs 940 in the UK. One of the posters here corrected me and multiplied the UK rate times 5; hence the 10,000 MORE homicides.

Your move.

 

[candycorn]

Again, if guns made a civilization safer, the US should be the safest place on earth since, by far, we are the most heavily armed people the planet has ever seen.

Instead, we're one of the most dangerous places on earth when judged by our peers.

 

[Melungeon]

I did not even hear about this one, thumbs up for spreading the word.

 

[Edgetho]

Again, if guns made a civilization safer, the US should be the safest place on earth since, by far, we are the most heavily armed people the planet has ever seen.

Instead, we're one of the most dangerous places on earth when judged by our peers.

Has it occurred to any of you leftists that we own guns for a reason?

Not for hunting. I don't like to hunt. At all. Not one bit.

Know why most people own guns?

Fear. They'are afraid of criminals breaking into their homes and raping, robbing and torturing them to death.

They're afraid of gangs of thugs.

They're afraid because the Cops in this Country are next to useless and the Court System is called a 'Revolving Door Judicial" for a reason.

Remember the minor news about the three 15 year old Black kids beating up the 13 year old White kid on the Bus?

My first post on the topic was in response to a leftard's comment, "Well, they're in Jail. What are you complaining about?"

I answered, "Because they'll be released and nothing will be done to them."

I was right. I usually am.

People get half, or totally, beaten to death ALL the time in this Country.

Little old Ladies and 80+ year old WWII Veteran gets murdered in their farm house just a few weeks ago.

People get car-jacked and killed all the time.

Two reporters get pulled out of their car by a Mob and severely beaten in Virginia. Know what's been done about it? Nothing.

They dragged some black kid off the street, gave him a stern warning and put him on probation.

Home invasions are rampant in this Country. Murders, rapes, robberies every day.

Do they make National News?

Fuck no.

Maybe if you people would get half as upset about the rampant crime in this Country, we could take you seriously...........

Not really. You're dimocraps. Too stupid to chew gum and walk at the same time.

Just letting you know why we don't listen to you. And why we never will.

 

[candycorn]

Again, if guns made a civilization safer, the US should be the safest place on earth since, by far, we are the most heavily armed people the planet has ever seen.

Instead, we're one of the most dangerous places on earth when judged by our peers.

Has it occurred to any of you leftists that we own guns for a reason?

Not for hunting. I don't like to hunt. At all. Not one bit.

Know why most people own guns?

Fear. They'are afraid of criminals breaking into their homes and raping, robbing and torturing them to death.

They're afraid of gangs of thugs.

They're afraid because the Cops in this Country are next to useless and the Court System is called a 'Revolving Door Judicial" for a reason.

Remember the minor news about the three 15 year old Black kids beating up the 13 year old White kid on the Bus?

My first post on the topic was in response to a leftard's comment, "Well, they're in Jail. What are you complaining about?"

I answered, "Because they'll be released and nothing will be done to them."

I was right. I usually am.

People get half, or totally, beaten to death ALL the time in this Country.

Little old Ladies and 80+ year old WWII Veteran gets murdered in their farm house just a few weeks ago.

People get car-jacked and killed all the time.

Two reporters get pulled out of their car by a Mob and severely beaten in Virginia. Know what's been done about it? Nothing.

They dragged some black kid off the street, gave him a stern warning and put him on probation.

Home invasions are rampant in this Country. Murders, rapes, robberies every day.

Do they make National News?

Fuck no.

Maybe if you people would get half as upset about the rampant crime in this Country, we could take you seriously...........

Not really. You're dimocraps. Too stupid to chew gum and walk at the same time.

Just letting you know why we don't listen to you. And why we never will.

So what you're saying is that having 300 gazillion guns in our society is no deterrent at all since we're so violent.

Just letting you know why you have lost 5 of the last 6 popular votes and only the American penchant for regularly switching parties in the White House will re-deliver it to the GOP.

 

[Edgetho]

Again, if guns made a civilization safer, the US should be the safest place on earth since, by far, we are the most heavily armed people the planet has ever seen.

Instead, we're one of the most dangerous places on earth when judged by our peers.

Has it occurred to any of you leftists that we own guns for a reason?

Not for hunting. I don't like to hunt. At all. Not one bit.

Know why most people own guns?

Fear. They'are afraid of criminals breaking into their homes and raping, robbing and torturing them to death.

They're afraid of gangs of thugs.

They're afraid because the Cops in this Country are next to useless and the Court System is called a 'Revolving Door Judicial" for a reason.

Remember the minor news about the three 15 year old Black kids beating up the 13 year old White kid on the Bus?

My first post on the topic was in response to a leftard's comment, "Well, they're in Jail. What are you complaining about?"

I answered, "Because they'll be released and nothing will be done to them."

I was right. I usually am.

People get half, or totally, beaten to death ALL the time in this Country.

Little old Ladies and 80+ year old WWII Veteran gets murdered in their farm house just a few weeks ago.

People get car-jacked and killed all the time.

Two reporters get pulled out of their car by a Mob and severely beaten in Virginia. Know what's been done about it? Nothing.

They dragged some black kid off the street, gave him a stern warning and put him on probation.

Home invasions are rampant in this Country. Murders, rapes, robberies every day.

Do they make National News?

Fuck no.

Maybe if you people would get half as upset about the rampant crime in this Country, we could take you seriously...........

Not really. You're dimocraps. Too stupid to chew gum and walk at the same time.

Just letting you know why we don't listen to you. And why we never will.

So what you're saying is that having 300 gazillion guns in our society is no deterrent at all since we're so violent.

Just letting you know why you have lost 5 of the last 6 popular votes and only the American penchant for regularly switching parties in the White House will re-deliver it to the GOP.

I didn't think you would listen.

Same shit, different day.

 

[candycorn]

Has it occurred to any of you leftists that we own guns for a reason?

Not for hunting. I don't like to hunt. At all. Not one bit.

Know why most people own guns?

Fear. They'are afraid of criminals breaking into their homes and raping, robbing and torturing them to death.

They're afraid of gangs of thugs.

They're afraid because the Cops in this Country are next to useless and the Court System is called a 'Revolving Door Judicial" for a reason.

Remember the minor news about the three 15 year old Black kids beating up the 13 year old White kid on the Bus?

My first post on the topic was in response to a leftard's comment, "Well, they're in Jail. What are you complaining about?"

I answered, "Because they'll be released and nothing will be done to them."

I was right. I usually am.

People get half, or totally, beaten to death ALL the time in this Country.

Little old Ladies and 80+ year old WWII Veteran gets murdered in their farm house just a few weeks ago.

People get car-jacked and killed all the time.

Two reporters get pulled out of their car by a Mob and severely beaten in Virginia. Know what's been done about it? Nothing.

They dragged some black kid off the street, gave him a stern warning and put him on probation.

Home invasions are rampant in this Country. Murders, rapes, robberies every day.

Do they make National News?

Fuck no.

Maybe if you people would get half as upset about the rampant crime in this Country, we could take you seriously...........

Not really. You're dimocraps. Too stupid to chew gum and walk at the same time.

Just letting you know why we don't listen to you. And why we never will.

So what you're saying is that having 300 gazillion guns in our society is no deterrent at all since we're so violent.

Just letting you know why you have lost 5 of the last 6 popular votes and only the American penchant for regularly switching parties in the White House will re-deliver it to the GOP.

I didn't think you would listen.

Same shit, different day.

You made my point in a way that was both concise and detailed; the proliferation of guns in this nation has done nothing to deter crime; Texas executes more prisoners every year than any other State; the Death Penalty does nothing to deter crime.

Dr. King was right;

Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars... Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that.

I'm sure you'll have some sort of response that will be profane--it's your nature of course. All to pity you more.

 

[The Rabbi]

Yanks don't give a shit. All they care about is their 'right' to walk around with dangerous weapons, and murder innocent schoolkids.

You fucking hypocrite. Many more kids are killed by drunk drivers than by shootings and you don't call for banning cars. Or banning drunk drivers. Or banning swimming pools, which also cause more child deaths than guns.
Now get back to slinging big macs.

 

[Edgetho]

So what you're saying is that having 300 gazillion guns in our society is no deterrent at all since we're so violent.

Just letting you know why you have lost 5 of the last 6 popular votes and only the American penchant for regularly switching parties in the White House will re-deliver it to the GOP.

I didn't think you would listen.

Same shit, different day.

You made my point in a way that was both concise and detailed; the proliferation of guns in this nation has done nothing to deter crime; Texas executes more prisoners every year than any other State; the Death Penalty does nothing to deter crime.

Dr. King was right;

Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars... Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that.

I'm sure you'll have some sort of response that will be profane--it's your nature of course. All to pity you more.

Of all the things you choose to rail against, why do you choose something that will NEVER change?

Don't you get it? You lost this battle. It's over. The Supreme Court incorporated the 2nd Amendment. It's over.

The only way you can change anything is through a Constitutional Amendment. That's it. No other way.

Unless you think you can take our Arms by force.

I'd love to see you try. That would last all of ten seconds.

You want a better America? Then ask our Cops, Judges and our entire Law Enforcement cabal to start enforcing the Laws we already have on the books.

Republican Mayor Rudy Giuliani took New Yawk's 2,000 gun homicides a year (that he inherited from noted imbecile David Dinkins) and slashed it to 400 a year.....

In a City of 8,000,000 that's pretty amazing.

And now, some ignorant, activist Judge has made them end the 'Stop and Frisk' program that was responsible for it.

What good are laws if you're unwilling to enforce them? When you pass a law restricting gun possession, if only the law-abiding citizen pays any attention to it then what's the point?

You people get everything backwards. No wonder you have trouble procreating

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Ed -- A Petition For Stronger Gun Laws - YouTube

[ame=http://youtu.be/vi2t_PMjriA]Proof Gun Control Doesn't Work - YouTube[/ame]

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I am a gun owner but I don't think certain guns should be sold. Period. Where does it end? Nukes for everyone?

No individual citizen, non-police, non-military, needs to own or have in his/her possession an AK 47. It is insane and absolutely indefensible that it is legal and considered reasonable for the average citizen to own such a weapon.

These show plainly enough that the Militia comprised all males physically capable of acting in concert for the common defense. "A body of citizens enrolled for military discipline." And further, that ordinarily, when called for service these men were expected to appear bearing arms supplied by themselves and of the kind in common use at the time.

United States v. Miller - 307 U.S. 174 (1939) :: Justia US Supreme Court Center

Argue with the founding fathers and the courts they gave their blood for the right to protect themselves and made sure you had that right.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I thought guns were needed for self protection. Against whom was this guy protecting himself?

And is Chris Lang to blame for not having a gun for self-protection too?

In Chris Lang's country, guns are controlled strictly. They've seen marked decreases in gun violence. In the UK and Canada, gun violence is also low, and gun restrictions are high. In the US, where guns are ubiquitous, so is gun violence.

I guess it doesn't matter that people who do not have access to firearms have other means to kill with?

 

[Edgetho]

I am a gun owner but I don't think certain guns should be sold. Period. Where does it end? Nukes for everyone?

No individual citizen, non-police, non-military, needs to own or have in his/her possession an AK 47. It is insane and absolutely indefensible that it is legal and considered reasonable for the average citizen to own such a weapon.

These show plainly enough that the Militia comprised all males physically capable of acting in concert for the common defense. "A body of citizens enrolled for military discipline." And further, that ordinarily, when called for service these men were expected to appear bearing arms supplied by themselves and of the kind in common use at the time.

United States v. Miller - 307 U.S. 174 (1939) :: Justia US Supreme Court Center

Argue with the founding fathers and the courts they gave their blood for the right to protect themselves and made sure you had that right.

None of that matters to the left.

It is obvious to anyone that takes an interest that the left isn't interested in the Rule of Law.

If they were, they'd be raising hell about the people in the Inner Cities who ILLEGALLY carry guns and ILLEGALLY discharge them at each other every day. Often missing because they're such punks, they use them like idiots and kill innocents.

the left doesn't want to disarm those who carry guns illegally. They don't want to disarm those who own guns illegally.

They also aren't interested in disarming those who are mentally incompetent.

They want to disarm the Average Citizen.

It would seem to me that the average citizen is the enemy of the left and the criminal is their friend.

Otherwise, why would they try to disarm the law-abiding citizen while continually ignoring the criminal who flaunts the law in their faces?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/13/n...d-rights-judge-rules.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

And that Judge? A MAJOR LEAGUE activist scrunt. Big time. I have no idea why she's still on the Bench. Should have been forcibly retired years ago

 

[The Rabbi]

Perhaps we should outlaw having guns in schools?
Oops.

 

[Flopper]

When will Congressional republicans write laws to protect all American schools from predators even getting onto the school grounds? They can write it for airports to protect the rich flyer's, they can write for government buildings to protect their own selves, but they can't seem to write it to protect America's children. Pathetic!!!

I cannot be sure of your tone, as this post lacks foundational clarity. So I'm going to make two separate responses, depending upon which manner you intended in this post.

1: If are you are PRO-GUN, I assume you're saying that federal government should mandate armed guards in the schools, just like they protect themselves with armed guards, and protect their government buildings with armed guards, and protect airports with armed guards and other law enforcement measures/deterrents.

2: If you are ANTI-GUN, I assume that you are retarded, because you just admitted that the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with gun (unless he voluntarily ceases his evil behavior).

You can take approach #1, I am the most pro-2nd Amendment person on this board.

No, guns are not enough to keep a predator off the school grounds. There needs to be non-climbable fencing that can be electrically activated. Ground sensors on the perimeter, cameras, turnstiles, xray for anything entering, clearance procedures with background checks, guards that ride in with the students on buses-spend the day at school & escort them back home again. Shared safe rooms between two classrooms with communications. Bullet proof windows, steel doors with electronic locks, electronic gates to isolate a predator from running free.

When we do this then it pulls the anti gunners teeth out of the argument, but most importantly, the children will be safe and we will have our 2nd Amendment rights restored.

We can spend billions of dollars turning our schools into walled fortresses and we will not solve the problem. The people that attack the innocents can strike anywhere, in preschools, after school day care, shopping malls, playgrounds, sporting events.

People that commit these crimes are sick, truly wacko. This shooter announced he was there to kill the kids. If we're to do anything to protect our kids as well as the public in general, we have to get professional help to these people before they lash out at innocent children and we have to make it more difficult for them to acquire weapons designed for mass killing.

 

[candycorn]

I cannot be sure of your tone, as this post lacks foundational clarity. So I'm going to make two separate responses, depending upon which manner you intended in this post.

1: If are you are PRO-GUN, I assume you're saying that federal government should mandate armed guards in the schools, just like they protect themselves with armed guards, and protect their government buildings with armed guards, and protect airports with armed guards and other law enforcement measures/deterrents.

2: If you are ANTI-GUN, I assume that you are retarded, because you just admitted that the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with gun (unless he voluntarily ceases his evil behavior).

You can take approach #1, I am the most pro-2nd Amendment person on this board.

No, guns are not enough to keep a predator off the school grounds. There needs to be non-climbable fencing that can be electrically activated. Ground sensors on the perimeter, cameras, turnstiles, xray for anything entering, clearance procedures with background checks, guards that ride in with the students on buses-spend the day at school & escort them back home again. Shared safe rooms between two classrooms with communications. Bullet proof windows, steel doors with electronic locks, electronic gates to isolate a predator from running free.

When we do this then it pulls the anti gunners teeth out of the argument, but most importantly, the children will be safe and we will have our 2nd Amendment rights restored.

We can spend billions of dollars turning our schools into walled fortresses and we will not solve the problem. The people that attack the innocents can strike anywhere, in preschools, after school day care, shopping malls, playgrounds, sporting events.

People that commit these crimes are sick, truly wacko. This shooter announced he was there to kill the kids. If we're to do anything to protect our kids as well as the public in general, we have to get professional help to these people before they lash out at innocent children and we have to make it more difficult for them to acquire weapons designed for mass killing.

I agree with you 100% but I will say this;

Having armed guards in schools is simply a good idea; a "reasonable response to an unreasonable situation" is how I heard it put one time.

If someone shows up at a school to shoot people, what do you do? Call the cops; you call good guys with guns and hope they bring a lot of their friends. Therefore, it seems bizarre to me that some--not saying you but some--think having a "good guy" with a gun on site is a bad idea.