Guns do not increase homicide rate...even Europeans understand...

[2aguy]

New report out from a gun grabbing European institute....they hate guns and want even more restrictions on gun ownership in Europe...but....I thought they already had all he gun control laws our anti-gun nutters just dream about......

But....they had to admit...as I have been saying all along...there is no connection between access to guns and homicide....other factors, which they acknowledge lead to that...

6,700 deaths by firearms in the EU each year | Flemish Peace Institute

Taking into consideration all figures, no relationship can be established between the number of firearms and the total number of homicides and suicides: where there are more firearms, the total number of homicides and suicides is not consistently higher or lower, and vice versa.

This is not surprising:

1) the numbers of homicides and suicides committed using a firearm only represent a part of the total number of homicides and suicides (20% and 9%, respectively), which renders a possible statistical effect on the total number of violent deaths difficult to detect within the larger picture;

and

2) a lot of factors have an influence on the extent to which homicides and suicides take place in a country: the economic situation, mental healthcare, the law enforcement, government campaigns, gun laws, etc.

 

[The Irish Ram]

KENNESAW, Ga - Several Kennesaw officials attribute a drop in crime in the city over the past two decades to a law that requires residents to have a gun in the house.

In 1982, the Kennesaw City Council unanimously passed a law requiring heads of households to own at least one firearm with ammunition.

The ordinance states the gun law is needed to "protect the safety, security and general welfare of the city and its inhabitants."

Then-councilman J.O. Stephenson said after the ordinance was passed, everyone "went crazy."

"People all over the country said there would be shootings in the street and violence in homes," he said. "Of course, that wasn't the case."

In fact, according to Stephenson, it caused the crime rate in the city to plunge.
Gun Ownership - It's The Law In Kennesaw

 

[Old Rocks]

New report out from a gun grabbing European institute....they hate guns and want even more restrictions on gun ownership in Europe...but....I thought they already had all he gun control laws our anti-gun nutters just dream about......

But....they had to admit...as I have been saying all along...there is no connection between access to guns and homicide....other factors, which they acknowledge lead to that...

6,700 deaths by firearms in the EU each year | Flemish Peace Institute

Taking into consideration all figures, no relationship can be established between the number of firearms and the total number of homicides and suicides: where there are more firearms, the total number of homicides and suicides is not consistently higher or lower, and vice versa.

This is not surprising:

1) the numbers of homicides and suicides committed using a firearm only represent a part of the total number of homicides and suicides (20% and 9%, respectively), which renders a possible statistical effect on the total number of violent deaths difficult to detect within the larger picture;

and

2) a lot of factors have an influence on the extent to which homicides and suicides take place in a country: the economic situation, mental healthcare, the law enforcement, government campaigns, gun laws, etc.

What a fucking liar you are. That number includes both homocides and suicides, and has been decreasing.

6,700 deaths by firearms in the EU each year | Flemish Peace Institute

The number of deaths by firearms in the EU has dropped 20%
In the EU approximately 6,700 people die as a result of shot wounds each year. This number is composed of 5,000 suicides (75%), 1,000 homicides (15%) and 700 unspecified deaths or accidents. The available figures show a decreasing trend (-20% since 2000 in the EU), especially in Central and Eastern Europe.

The 5,000 suicides by firearms per year represent 9% of all suicides in the EU. Especially older men commit suicide using a firearm. Earlier studies indicate that these suicides are usually committed with legal firearms.

In the meantime, the number of deaths by guns has been rising in the US and is very close to the number of people that die from auto accidents.

Death and guns in the USA - CNN.com

In 2013 alone, the US has 33,636 deaths of gun. Europe has a slightly larger population, and their number is about 1/6 of ours, and decreasing. In fact, from 2001 through 2013, there were 406,496 deaths by gun. Yet you 'Conservatives' carry on like you are likely to be killed tomorrow by a terrorist. You are a thousand times more likely to be killed by your own gun, or that of someone you know than by a terrorist.

So what is your solution to these dismal figures? More guns on the street? We have been doing that for a lot of years now. How has that worked?

 

[2aguy]

New report out from a gun grabbing European institute....they hate guns and want even more restrictions on gun ownership in Europe...but....I thought they already had all he gun control laws our anti-gun nutters just dream about......

But....they had to admit...as I have been saying all along...there is no connection between access to guns and homicide....other factors, which they acknowledge lead to that...

6,700 deaths by firearms in the EU each year | Flemish Peace Institute

Taking into consideration all figures, no relationship can be established between the number of firearms and the total number of homicides and suicides: where there are more firearms, the total number of homicides and suicides is not consistently higher or lower, and vice versa.

This is not surprising:

1) the numbers of homicides and suicides committed using a firearm only represent a part of the total number of homicides and suicides (20% and 9%, respectively), which renders a possible statistical effect on the total number of violent deaths difficult to detect within the larger picture;

and

2) a lot of factors have an influence on the extent to which homicides and suicides take place in a country: the economic situation, mental healthcare, the law enforcement, government campaigns, gun laws, etc.

What a fucking liar you are. That number includes both homocides and suicides, and has been decreasing.

6,700 deaths by firearms in the EU each year | Flemish Peace Institute

The number of deaths by firearms in the EU has dropped 20%
In the EU approximately 6,700 people die as a result of shot wounds each year. This number is composed of 5,000 suicides (75%), 1,000 homicides (15%) and 700 unspecified deaths or accidents. The available figures show a decreasing trend (-20% since 2000 in the EU), especially in Central and Eastern Europe.

The 5,000 suicides by firearms per year represent 9% of all suicides in the EU. Especially older men commit suicide using a firearm. Earlier studies indicate that these suicides are usually committed with legal firearms.

In the meantime, the number of deaths by guns has been rising in the US and is very close to the number of people that die from auto accidents.

Death and guns in the USA - CNN.com

In 2013 alone, the US has 33,636 deaths of gun. Europe has a slightly larger population, and their number is about 1/6 of ours, and decreasing. In fact, from 2001 through 2013, there were 406,496 deaths by gun. Yet you 'Conservatives' carry on like you are likely to be killed tomorrow by a terrorist. You are a thousand times more likely to be killed by your own gun, or that of someone you know than by a terrorist.

So what is your solution to these dismal figures? More guns on the street? We have been doing that for a lot of years now. How has that worked?

Hey...asswipe......try reading the actual quote.......


Taking into consideration all figures, no relationship can be established between the number of firearms and the total number of homicides and suicides: where there are more firearms, the total number of homicides and suicides is not consistently higher or lower, and vice versa.


And that idea that gun deaths are getting close to auto deaths is a lie too.....

Accidental gun deaths in 2013..... 505

Accidental car deaths in 2013.... 35,000


Please...compare apples to apples moron.........people using guns illegally to commit murder is not the same as gun accidents moron....

And on top of that our gun murder rate is going down, not up moron. And our gun accident rate is going down, not up...moron.

How many guns are there in the United States...in 2013...there were over 320,000,000 guns....

How many gun accidental deaths....505...so no ....you are not more likely to be killed by your own gun....the research that lie was based on was done by anti-gun nuts who went into high crime, high social pathology neighborhoods in democrat controlled inner cities.......and ignored the gun owners who were normal citizens....moron.

Your entire belief system about guns in the United States is a lie....and wrong........the facts, the truth and the reality show you are both wrong and lying about guns..........

 

[2aguy]

New report out from a gun grabbing European institute....they hate guns and want even more restrictions on gun ownership in Europe...but....I thought they already had all he gun control laws our anti-gun nutters just dream about......

But....they had to admit...as I have been saying all along...there is no connection between access to guns and homicide....other factors, which they acknowledge lead to that...

6,700 deaths by firearms in the EU each year | Flemish Peace Institute

Taking into consideration all figures, no relationship can be established between the number of firearms and the total number of homicides and suicides: where there are more firearms, the total number of homicides and suicides is not consistently higher or lower, and vice versa.

This is not surprising:

1) the numbers of homicides and suicides committed using a firearm only represent a part of the total number of homicides and suicides (20% and 9%, respectively), which renders a possible statistical effect on the total number of violent deaths difficult to detect within the larger picture;

and

2) a lot of factors have an influence on the extent to which homicides and suicides take place in a country: the economic situation, mental healthcare, the law enforcement, government campaigns, gun laws, etc.

What a fucking liar you are. That number includes both homocides and suicides, and has been decreasing.

6,700 deaths by firearms in the EU each year | Flemish Peace Institute

The number of deaths by firearms in the EU has dropped 20%
In the EU approximately 6,700 people die as a result of shot wounds each year. This number is composed of 5,000 suicides (75%), 1,000 homicides (15%) and 700 unspecified deaths or accidents. The available figures show a decreasing trend (-20% since 2000 in the EU), especially in Central and Eastern Europe.

The 5,000 suicides by firearms per year represent 9% of all suicides in the EU. Especially older men commit suicide using a firearm. Earlier studies indicate that these suicides are usually committed with legal firearms.

In the meantime, the number of deaths by guns has been rising in the US and is very close to the number of people that die from auto accidents.

Death and guns in the USA - CNN.com

In 2013 alone, the US has 33,636 deaths of gun. Europe has a slightly larger population, and their number is about 1/6 of ours, and decreasing. In fact, from 2001 through 2013, there were 406,496 deaths by gun. Yet you 'Conservatives' carry on like you are likely to be killed tomorrow by a terrorist. You are a thousand times more likely to be killed by your own gun, or that of someone you know than by a terrorist.

So what is your solution to these dismal figures? More guns on the street? We have been doing that for a lot of years now. How has that worked?

And the gun crime in the E.U. is going up...they are finding more automatic weapons in the hands of criminals in Britain, and the criminals are shooting at police more....I have posted the stories....dittos all over Europe.....they also like to throw grenades over there too.....

That they don't murder more often is the only difference, their criminals get guns, fully automatic weapons, easily....they just don't choose to kill as often as our criminals do...but that is changing....

 

[2aguy]

New report out from a gun grabbing European institute....they hate guns and want even more restrictions on gun ownership in Europe...but....I thought they already had all he gun control laws our anti-gun nutters just dream about......

But....they had to admit...as I have been saying all along...there is no connection between access to guns and homicide....other factors, which they acknowledge lead to that...

6,700 deaths by firearms in the EU each year | Flemish Peace Institute

Taking into consideration all figures, no relationship can be established between the number of firearms and the total number of homicides and suicides: where there are more firearms, the total number of homicides and suicides is not consistently higher or lower, and vice versa.

This is not surprising:

1) the numbers of homicides and suicides committed using a firearm only represent a part of the total number of homicides and suicides (20% and 9%, respectively), which renders a possible statistical effect on the total number of violent deaths difficult to detect within the larger picture;

and

2) a lot of factors have an influence on the extent to which homicides and suicides take place in a country: the economic situation, mental healthcare, the law enforcement, government campaigns, gun laws, etc.

What a fucking liar you are. That number includes both homocides and suicides, and has been decreasing.

6,700 deaths by firearms in the EU each year | Flemish Peace Institute

The number of deaths by firearms in the EU has dropped 20%
In the EU approximately 6,700 people die as a result of shot wounds each year. This number is composed of 5,000 suicides (75%), 1,000 homicides (15%) and 700 unspecified deaths or accidents. The available figures show a decreasing trend (-20% since 2000 in the EU), especially in Central and Eastern Europe.

The 5,000 suicides by firearms per year represent 9% of all suicides in the EU. Especially older men commit suicide using a firearm. Earlier studies indicate that these suicides are usually committed with legal firearms.

In the meantime, the number of deaths by guns has been rising in the US and is very close to the number of people that die from auto accidents.

Death and guns in the USA - CNN.com

In 2013 alone, the US has 33,636 deaths of gun. Europe has a slightly larger population, and their number is about 1/6 of ours, and decreasing. In fact, from 2001 through 2013, there were 406,496 deaths by gun. Yet you 'Conservatives' carry on like you are likely to be killed tomorrow by a terrorist. You are a thousand times more likely to be killed by your own gun, or that of someone you know than by a terrorist.

So what is your solution to these dismal figures? More guns on the street? We have been doing that for a lot of years now. How has that worked?

In 2014 there were 8,124 gun murders in the united states...

about 21,000 gun suicides, and 19,974 non gun suicides...so suicide is not an issue with guns...since Japan, South Korea and China have almost zero access to guns for normal citizens....criminals and police still get guns........and they have a higher suicide rate than we do....


Oh...and so does France, and Poland and several other European countries with all the gun control you anti-gun nuts want....

Suicide is not an issue with guns.....

So out of the 8,124 gun murders, 90% of the shooters are career criminals with long histories of violent behavior.....and 80% of the victims also have criminal records....

That means 1,642 of the victims are innocent, law abiding people.....out of a country of over 320,000,000 million people.....


And each year, moron.......1,500,000 normal Americans use guns to stop violent criminal attack and save lives...according to bill clinton and his Department of Justice Study in 1994.........

So look at the actual number moron....and try to do the real math....stop lying and stop trying to bum rush people with fake emotions....moron.

 

[Rustic]

New report out from a gun grabbing European institute....they hate guns and want even more restrictions on gun ownership in Europe...but....I thought they already had all he gun control laws our anti-gun nutters just dream about......

But....they had to admit...as I have been saying all along...there is no connection between access to guns and homicide....other factors, which they acknowledge lead to that...

6,700 deaths by firearms in the EU each year | Flemish Peace Institute

Taking into consideration all figures, no relationship can be established between the number of firearms and the total number of homicides and suicides: where there are more firearms, the total number of homicides and suicides is not consistently higher or lower, and vice versa.

This is not surprising:

1) the numbers of homicides and suicides committed using a firearm only represent a part of the total number of homicides and suicides (20% and 9%, respectively), which renders a possible statistical effect on the total number of violent deaths difficult to detect within the larger picture;

and

2) a lot of factors have an influence on the extent to which homicides and suicides take place in a country: the economic situation, mental healthcare, the law enforcement, government campaigns, gun laws, etc.

What a fucking liar you are. That number includes both homocides and suicides, and has been decreasing.

6,700 deaths by firearms in the EU each year | Flemish Peace Institute

The number of deaths by firearms in the EU has dropped 20%
In the EU approximately 6,700 people die as a result of shot wounds each year. This number is composed of 5,000 suicides (75%), 1,000 homicides (15%) and 700 unspecified deaths or accidents. The available figures show a decreasing trend (-20% since 2000 in the EU), especially in Central and Eastern Europe.

The 5,000 suicides by firearms per year represent 9% of all suicides in the EU. Especially older men commit suicide using a firearm. Earlier studies indicate that these suicides are usually committed with legal firearms.

In the meantime, the number of deaths by guns has been rising in the US and is very close to the number of people that die from auto accidents.

Death and guns in the USA - CNN.com

In 2013 alone, the US has 33,636 deaths of gun. Europe has a slightly larger population, and their number is about 1/6 of ours, and decreasing. In fact, from 2001 through 2013, there were 406,496 deaths by gun. Yet you 'Conservatives' carry on like you are likely to be killed tomorrow by a terrorist. You are a thousand times more likely to be killed by your own gun, or that of someone you know than by a terrorist.

So what is your solution to these dismal figures? More guns on the street? We have been doing that for a lot of years now. How has that worked?

Putting suicides and homicides in the same category is a lying... crime rate has been going down because there are more guns in the United States just the facts... Lol

 

[2aguy]

New report out from a gun grabbing European institute....they hate guns and want even more restrictions on gun ownership in Europe...but....I thought they already had all he gun control laws our anti-gun nutters just dream about......

But....they had to admit...as I have been saying all along...there is no connection between access to guns and homicide....other factors, which they acknowledge lead to that...

6,700 deaths by firearms in the EU each year | Flemish Peace Institute

Taking into consideration all figures, no relationship can be established between the number of firearms and the total number of homicides and suicides: where there are more firearms, the total number of homicides and suicides is not consistently higher or lower, and vice versa.

This is not surprising:

1) the numbers of homicides and suicides committed using a firearm only represent a part of the total number of homicides and suicides (20% and 9%, respectively), which renders a possible statistical effect on the total number of violent deaths difficult to detect within the larger picture;

and

2) a lot of factors have an influence on the extent to which homicides and suicides take place in a country: the economic situation, mental healthcare, the law enforcement, government campaigns, gun laws, etc.

What a fucking liar you are. That number includes both homocides and suicides, and has been decreasing.

6,700 deaths by firearms in the EU each year | Flemish Peace Institute

The number of deaths by firearms in the EU has dropped 20%
In the EU approximately 6,700 people die as a result of shot wounds each year. This number is composed of 5,000 suicides (75%), 1,000 homicides (15%) and 700 unspecified deaths or accidents. The available figures show a decreasing trend (-20% since 2000 in the EU), especially in Central and Eastern Europe.

The 5,000 suicides by firearms per year represent 9% of all suicides in the EU. Especially older men commit suicide using a firearm. Earlier studies indicate that these suicides are usually committed with legal firearms.

In the meantime, the number of deaths by guns has been rising in the US and is very close to the number of people that die from auto accidents.

Death and guns in the USA - CNN.com

In 2013 alone, the US has 33,636 deaths of gun. Europe has a slightly larger population, and their number is about 1/6 of ours, and decreasing. In fact, from 2001 through 2013, there were 406,496 deaths by gun. Yet you 'Conservatives' carry on like you are likely to be killed tomorrow by a terrorist. You are a thousand times more likely to be killed by your own gun, or that of someone you know than by a terrorist.

So what is your solution to these dismal figures? More guns on the street? We have been doing that for a lot of years now. How has that worked?

Do you realize that our gun murder rate has gone down as more Americans carry guns...do you realize that moron?

Hey genius.......how do you explain the fact....that's right moron...the fact...that as more Americans own and actually carry guns...our gun murder rate went down, not up.....care to explain that genius?

Since the 1990s when concealed and open carry was being passed in state after state, our gun murder rate has gone down...we now have over 13,000,000 million gun owners actually carrying guns for self defense.....and our gun murder rate and our gun accidental death rate has gone down...not up........

Care to explain that....? And this is not talking about causation, before you try to deflect with that......this is about the fact that our gun murder rate went down as more Americans actually carry guns into public spaces for self defense.....

moron.

 

[2aguy]

New report out from a gun grabbing European institute....they hate guns and want even more restrictions on gun ownership in Europe...but....I thought they already had all he gun control laws our anti-gun nutters just dream about......

But....they had to admit...as I have been saying all along...there is no connection between access to guns and homicide....other factors, which they acknowledge lead to that...

6,700 deaths by firearms in the EU each year | Flemish Peace Institute

Taking into consideration all figures, no relationship can be established between the number of firearms and the total number of homicides and suicides: where there are more firearms, the total number of homicides and suicides is not consistently higher or lower, and vice versa.

This is not surprising:

1) the numbers of homicides and suicides committed using a firearm only represent a part of the total number of homicides and suicides (20% and 9%, respectively), which renders a possible statistical effect on the total number of violent deaths difficult to detect within the larger picture;

and

2) a lot of factors have an influence on the extent to which homicides and suicides take place in a country: the economic situation, mental healthcare, the law enforcement, government campaigns, gun laws, etc.

What a fucking liar you are. That number includes both homocides and suicides, and has been decreasing.

6,700 deaths by firearms in the EU each year | Flemish Peace Institute

The number of deaths by firearms in the EU has dropped 20%
In the EU approximately 6,700 people die as a result of shot wounds each year. This number is composed of 5,000 suicides (75%), 1,000 homicides (15%) and 700 unspecified deaths or accidents. The available figures show a decreasing trend (-20% since 2000 in the EU), especially in Central and Eastern Europe.

The 5,000 suicides by firearms per year represent 9% of all suicides in the EU. Especially older men commit suicide using a firearm. Earlier studies indicate that these suicides are usually committed with legal firearms.

In the meantime, the number of deaths by guns has been rising in the US and is very close to the number of people that die from auto accidents.

Death and guns in the USA - CNN.com

In 2013 alone, the US has 33,636 deaths of gun. Europe has a slightly larger population, and their number is about 1/6 of ours, and decreasing. In fact, from 2001 through 2013, there were 406,496 deaths by gun. Yet you 'Conservatives' carry on like you are likely to be killed tomorrow by a terrorist. You are a thousand times more likely to be killed by your own gun, or that of someone you know than by a terrorist.

So what is your solution to these dismal figures? More guns on the street? We have been doing that for a lot of years now. How has that worked?

And here is actual truth, facts and reality......so stop lying........

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8

And here is the FBI table 8……it is a great table because it goes back4 years to show the rates of decrease….

FBI Table 2004

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8 - Crime in the United States 2008

2014 table…..

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8

From 2014…..and I added 2011……

2006

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8 and

2006 fbi table 8

Murder by firearm….

Federal Bureau of Investigation - Uniform Crime Reports - 2000

gun murder rate 1997 -2014


1997..... 10,729
1998..... 9,257
1999..... 8,480
2000..... 8,493
2001..... 8,719
2002... 9,369
2003.... 9,638
2004..... 9,385
2005.... 10,158
2006.... 10,225
2007 10,129
2008-- 9,528
2009-- 9,199
2010- 8,874
2011-- 8,653
2012-- 8,897
2013-- 8,454
2014-- 8,124
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

Accidental gun deaths 2013......505
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr63/nvsr63_09.pdf

Then by year accidental gun deaths going down according to CDC final statistics table 10 from 2010-2013...

2010...606
2011...591
2012...548
2013...505

Accidental gun deaths of children under 14 in 2013....

Under 1 year old: 3

1-4 years old: 27

5-14 years old: 39

Total: 69 ( in a country of 320 million people)

Gun Suicide: 21,175

Non gun suicide: 19,974


http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

Here are the stats on some common types of death....it would be better to start a crusade to teach people how to walk upright...and save them from falling deaths...you would save more lives.....

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

guns, drowning and poisoning....

If you cared about people....you would push to ban the following...


http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

Cars, Accidental deaths 2013......35,369

Poisons...accidental deaths 2013....38,851

Alcohol...accidental deaths 2013...29,001

gravity....accidental falling deaths 2013...30,208
Accidental drowning.....3,391
Accidental exposure to smoke, fire and flames.....2,760


http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr63/nvsr63_09.pdf

Then by year accidental gun deaths going down according to CDC final statistics table 10 from 2010-2013...

2010...606
2011...591
2012...548
2013...505

So...accidental gun deaths have been coming down as more people own and carry guns for self defense....now 12.8 million people actually carry guns for self defense......on their person, and the accidental gun death rate is going down, not up....

 

[2aguy]

New report out from a gun grabbing European institute....they hate guns and want even more restrictions on gun ownership in Europe...but....I thought they already had all he gun control laws our anti-gun nutters just dream about......

But....they had to admit...as I have been saying all along...there is no connection between access to guns and homicide....other factors, which they acknowledge lead to that...

6,700 deaths by firearms in the EU each year | Flemish Peace Institute

Taking into consideration all figures, no relationship can be established between the number of firearms and the total number of homicides and suicides: where there are more firearms, the total number of homicides and suicides is not consistently higher or lower, and vice versa.

This is not surprising:

1) the numbers of homicides and suicides committed using a firearm only represent a part of the total number of homicides and suicides (20% and 9%, respectively), which renders a possible statistical effect on the total number of violent deaths difficult to detect within the larger picture;

and

2) a lot of factors have an influence on the extent to which homicides and suicides take place in a country: the economic situation, mental healthcare, the law enforcement, government campaigns, gun laws, etc.

What a fucking liar you are. That number includes both homocides and suicides, and has been decreasing.

6,700 deaths by firearms in the EU each year | Flemish Peace Institute

The number of deaths by firearms in the EU has dropped 20%
In the EU approximately 6,700 people die as a result of shot wounds each year. This number is composed of 5,000 suicides (75%), 1,000 homicides (15%) and 700 unspecified deaths or accidents. The available figures show a decreasing trend (-20% since 2000 in the EU), especially in Central and Eastern Europe.

The 5,000 suicides by firearms per year represent 9% of all suicides in the EU. Especially older men commit suicide using a firearm. Earlier studies indicate that these suicides are usually committed with legal firearms.

In the meantime, the number of deaths by guns has been rising in the US and is very close to the number of people that die from auto accidents.

Death and guns in the USA - CNN.com

In 2013 alone, the US has 33,636 deaths of gun. Europe has a slightly larger population, and their number is about 1/6 of ours, and decreasing. In fact, from 2001 through 2013, there were 406,496 deaths by gun. Yet you 'Conservatives' carry on like you are likely to be killed tomorrow by a terrorist. You are a thousand times more likely to be killed by your own gun, or that of someone you know than by a terrorist.

So what is your solution to these dismal figures? More guns on the street? We have been doing that for a lot of years now. How has that worked?

And genius.....here is the story I posted over the weekend about gun control in Britain...a country that confiscated guns and has the most extreme gun control.....and is an island nation.....a country that is now arming more of their previously unarmed police...and seeing more shootings...

Rise in sub-machine guns on London streets

Scotland Yard today said police are seizing more deadly automatic weapons from criminals in London as detectives revealed that an innocent bystander was gunned down with a suspected Skorpion sub-machine gun last month .
-------

New figures seen by the Standard show that police seized 18 sub-machine guns from criminals in the capital last year, compared to 13 similar weapons in 2014.

Police also revealed that sub-machine guns had been fired in London 11 times in the last 12 months, compared to seven times the year before.

In October last year three plain clothes officers escaped injury despite being shot at by a sub-machine gun - also thought to be a Skorpion - when they were carrying out inquiries in Willesden.

Today police said there had been a “worrying” increase in the use of automatic weapons but they were seizing more of the weapons from criminals.

 

[2aguy]

New report out from a gun grabbing European institute....they hate guns and want even more restrictions on gun ownership in Europe...but....I thought they already had all he gun control laws our anti-gun nutters just dream about......

But....they had to admit...as I have been saying all along...there is no connection between access to guns and homicide....other factors, which they acknowledge lead to that...

6,700 deaths by firearms in the EU each year | Flemish Peace Institute

Taking into consideration all figures, no relationship can be established between the number of firearms and the total number of homicides and suicides: where there are more firearms, the total number of homicides and suicides is not consistently higher or lower, and vice versa.

This is not surprising:

1) the numbers of homicides and suicides committed using a firearm only represent a part of the total number of homicides and suicides (20% and 9%, respectively), which renders a possible statistical effect on the total number of violent deaths difficult to detect within the larger picture;

and

2) a lot of factors have an influence on the extent to which homicides and suicides take place in a country: the economic situation, mental healthcare, the law enforcement, government campaigns, gun laws, etc.

What a fucking liar you are. That number includes both homocides and suicides, and has been decreasing.

6,700 deaths by firearms in the EU each year | Flemish Peace Institute

The number of deaths by firearms in the EU has dropped 20%
In the EU approximately 6,700 people die as a result of shot wounds each year. This number is composed of 5,000 suicides (75%), 1,000 homicides (15%) and 700 unspecified deaths or accidents. The available figures show a decreasing trend (-20% since 2000 in the EU), especially in Central and Eastern Europe.

The 5,000 suicides by firearms per year represent 9% of all suicides in the EU. Especially older men commit suicide using a firearm. Earlier studies indicate that these suicides are usually committed with legal firearms.

In the meantime, the number of deaths by guns has been rising in the US and is very close to the number of people that die from auto accidents.

Death and guns in the USA - CNN.com

In 2013 alone, the US has 33,636 deaths of gun. Europe has a slightly larger population, and their number is about 1/6 of ours, and decreasing. In fact, from 2001 through 2013, there were 406,496 deaths by gun. Yet you 'Conservatives' carry on like you are likely to be killed tomorrow by a terrorist. You are a thousand times more likely to be killed by your own gun, or that of someone you know than by a terrorist.

So what is your solution to these dismal figures? More guns on the street? We have been doing that for a lot of years now. How has that worked?

And then you have this from Britain.....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...id-area-being-linked-to-violent-a6921641.html
Birmingham’s Gun Quarter could have name change to avoid crime link
Birmingham shootings - police to 're-double' their efforts to tackle worrying increase

Birmingham is in the grip of a spate of gun crime according to the region’s top policeman who admitted today that shootings are happening in some areas with “concerning regularity.”

Deputy Chief Constable Dave Thompson told the West Midlands Police and Crime Board that he had not seen as many shootings in the five years that he had been with the force.

Describing how the problem of gun crime had “come back” he said he was growing increasingly concerned about the availability of weapons and ammunition on the streets.

But he also vowed to take on the gun gangsters saying he was confident that those responsible for the spate of recent shootings would be brought to justice with support from local communities.

Speaking about the rise in gun crime he said: “It’s fair to say that the problem has come back and we need to re-double our efforts.

“We have had some very serious incidents and there has been a concerning regularity of shootings that I have not seen in the five years that I have been here.