aris2chat
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Who's we? Neither the OT or NT Bibles predict the fall of Israel. Jesus was a Jew, and his religion was Judaism.
No. Jesus was a Jew, but then he was babtized by John and became a Christian and he proved he was the son of God by dying on the cross to be resurrected, which he did and ascended into heaven. Jesus spoke out against the Jews and it was the Pharases who judged him to be crucified. There's a parable in the bible of Jesus teaching the high Jewish priest in his home by having a sinner whip his feet with purfum and the Jewish leaders were saying how can he let a sinful women do that? The Jewish temple was split in have and crumbled after Jesus died on the cross, and there is a reason for that. See my point?
What are you talking about? Jesus was a devout practicing Jew until the day he died. His followers called him rabbi and were Jews as well. They made Jesus into the Messiah of the Old Testament. Whether you believe that or not makes you a Christian.
Christianty did not come until hundreds of years after this death.
Only the jews believe this. Not Christians. How about you explain for the class why that is and why every Christian bible has what is called the NEW testament.
Christians believe this too. To be'ieve in the New Testament you have to believe in the Old Testament. According to Christanity, which came after Jesus died, Jesus was the fulfillment of the Old Testament.
We do believe in the old but the new testament is what we go off of not the old. Remember Jesus was crucified, resurrected in the new testament not the old. Jesus showed the Jewish people the new way to live by God and at the end they didn't like it due to their ego's and pride and murdered Jesus by condemning him. Who paid Judus to deceive Jesus? The high jewish priests.
How can you be that thick? The OT was closed, there was a belief the age of prophecy had ended. The birth and beyond of Jesus were written almost a hundred years after his death.
Jesus taught the torah, he taught in parables but it was not a new religion, just a new way for all to understand it.
Jesus was first and foremost a jew. He was not divine till almost 400 years later and that was by small margin after contentious debate.
As for Judas......Jesus sent him to carry out the deed. Jesus accepted his fate and did everything to make sure it was carried out. It was Jesus that made sure he would be crucified. He could have avoided it many times. He could have behaved differently to avoid the roman charges. If Jesus has not died, there would have been no Christianity. Jesus put himself on the cross, him and god. Judas was doing what Jesus wanted him to do.