Happy Columbus Day !!

[Carl in Michigan]

Even if that was true I wouldnt have a problem with that. Its you whites that have a abject fear of dying.

We have something to live for. Life was miserable for Your people until we civilized the beasts

 

[Asclepias]

Even if that was true I wouldnt have a problem with that. Its you whites that have a abject fear of dying.

We have something to live for. Life was miserable for Your people until we civilized the beasts

Being recessive is not exactly something to live for. Its actually the reason you lack fertility.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

They were populated, but the concept of discovery is of course from a European (and by proxy Oriental) perspective.

It doesn't matter his original thought on what he found, what matters is he led the first group that found the "New World" and opened it up to exploration and exploitation by the "Old World"

But thats false. He didnt lead the first group of anything. Leif Ericsson was the first european to hit the americas and prior to that the Mali empire from Africa.

It doesn't matter who actually came first, the point is this is the day we choose to celebrate our European greatness ! Have a happy celebration !

Why did you name it after a bumbling fool and genocidal maniac like columbus instead of Leif Ericsson?

You'll have to ask my ancestors, they apparently like Chris better.

No need to ask your ancestors. I already know the reason. Leif was ran off the continent. Columbus and his genocide made your ancestors feel like big men.

They were big men, they had the superior technology of the day that allowed them to defeat inferior cultures.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

What a great day !

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[JoeB131]

The left would celebrate the cultural genocide of whites and Christians.

Yes, only in Right Wing world, would a group that has most of the power and influence be "oppressed" when someone questions it.

 

[harmonica]

they are teaching kids that he was EVIL
what bullshit

 

[JoeB131]

Judging historical events by todays standards is absolute idiocy.

Columbus's voyage to the new world at that time was an astounding feat equal to the first man on the moon.

Um, not really, since there is evidence the Vikings and others did it before.

Also, if we had caused the genocide of the Moon People, that would still be a bad thing.

Everyone thought he was insane, and would fall off the end of the Earth.

Um, no, no one believed that. People knew the world was round in 1492. What most people believed- rightly- was that Asia was much further away than Columbus thought it was.

His voyage and return opened up the exploration of 50% of the unknown part of our planet, and deserves to be celebrated, not vilified and hidden. ....

Again, it also lead to the genocide and cultural extinction of Native Americans... so, um, no, it's really something to be mourned.

 

[JoeB131]

What Europeans did to the natives is nothing different from what they did to each other, except the Europeans had better weapons and military science.

Um, no, the Europeans were not genociding each other in 1500...

Nice try, though.

Met any Aztecs lately? Oh, that's right, you haven't, because the Europeans killed them all.

 

[harmonica]

If you think cultural genocide is something worth celebrating, um, yeah. I guess.

the NA committed genocide/TORTURE/murder/war/decimated-displaced/etc
the same as any other race
Columbus did not commit cultural genocide

 

[JoeB131]

You loons just need a "cause "....and something to bitch about.

How about ya just STFU for a month or so. We need a rest from your whines

Actually accounting for what we did wrong is a "Cause".

We live in a country built on genocide of the people who were already here and the slavery of people we brought over against their will. It's a door Columbus opened. People should really put it in the proper perspective.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

As I've repeatedly pointed out, it doesn't matter who actually came first, the point is Columbus Day is the day we choose to celebrate European culture coming to this hemisphere. What a great day !

 

[DigitalDrifter]

 

[JoeB131]

As I've repeatedly pointed out, it doesn't matter who actually came first, the point is Columbus Day is the day we choose to celebrate European culture coming to this hemisphere. What a great day !

Not if you're a native American who got genocided, or a black who got dragged over here in chains...

But if you want to live in a first grader's view of history, have at it.

He was trying to prove the world was round... Really.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

As I've repeatedly pointed out, it doesn't matter who actually came first, the point is Columbus Day is the day we choose to celebrate European culture coming to this hemisphere. What a great day !

Not if you're a native American who got genocided, or a black who got dragged over here in chains...

But if you want to live in a first grader's view of history, have at it.

He was trying to prove the world was round... Really.

There was no way the technological world was going to leave this hemisphere alone. Had the Europeans not conquered it, the Asians would have.
Get over it Joe, and instead celebrate it !

 

[DigitalDrifter]

 

[JoeB131]

There was no way the technological world was going to leave this hemisphere alone. Had the Europeans not conquered it, the Asians would have.
Get over it Joe, and instead celebrate it !

Uh, guy, the Europeans weren't all that ahead in technology...

And there's nothing to celebrate in slavery and genocide...

 

[DigitalDrifter]

There was no way the technological world was going to leave this hemisphere alone. Had the Europeans not conquered it, the Asians would have.
Get over it Joe, and instead celebrate it !

Uh, guy, the Europeans weren't all that ahead in technology...

And there's nothing to celebrate in slavery and genocide...

Then leave the thread and allow the ones who want to revel in our day of celebration.
No one cares about your negative opinions.

 

[Sunni Man]

Met any Aztecs lately? Oh, that's right, you haven't, because the Europeans killed them all.

Incorrect Poindexter. ...

Although the Aztec culture was destroyed. The Aztec people were absorbed into what became the country of Mexico, and they converted to Christianity as their religion.

"Mexico City was built on the ruins of Tenochtitlan, gradually replacing and covering the lake, the island and the architecture of Aztec Tenochtitlan. After the fall of Tenochtitlan, Aztec warriors were enlisted as auxiliary troops alongside the Spanish Tlaxcalteca allies, and Aztec forces participated in all of the subsequent campaigns of conquest in northern and southern Mesoamerica. This meant that aspects of Aztec culture and the Nahuatl language continued to expand during the early colonial period as Aztec auxiliary forces made permanent settlements in many of the areas that were put under the Spanish crown."

"Although the Aztec empire fell, some of its highest elites continued to hold elite status in the colonial era. The principal heirs of Moctezuma II and their descendants retained high status. His son Pedro Moctezuma produced a son, who married into Spanish aristocracy and a further generation saw the creation of the title, Count of Moctezuma. From 1696 to 1701, the Viceroy of Mexico was held the title of count of Moctezuma. In 1766, the holder of the title became a Grandee of Spain. In 1865, (during the Second Mexican Empire) the title, which was held by Antonio María Moctezuma-Marcilla de Teruel y Navarro, 14th Count of Moctezuma de Tultengo, was elevated to that of a Duke, thus becoming Duke of Moctezuma, with de Tultengo again added in 1992 by Juan Carlos I. Two of Moctezuma's daughters, Doña Isabel Moctezuma and her younger sister, Doña Leonor Moctezuma, were granted extensive encomiendas in perpetuity by Hernán Cortes. Doña Leonor Moctezuma married in succession two Spaniards, and left her encomiendas to her daughter by her second husband."

Aztecs - Wikipedia

 

[JoeB131]

Then leave the thread and allow the ones who want to revel in our day of celebration.
No one cares about your negative opinions.

Yeah, kind of sad that you guys want to enjoy that time white people were kind of a scourge on the rest of the world... and you wonder why white folks are hated.

 

[Soupnazi630]

columbus day is just another day white boys made up to sooth their fragile egos. This idiot thought he was in India.

Big words from someone with modern knowledge and access to modern data.

Back then it was a huge risk sailing that direction, because others who went before him never came back, or turned back before they found anything.

You sound like an idiot. He wasn't even the first euriopean to make it to the americas.

he was the one that brought enough information back to begin the permanent colonization of the "New World"

The Viking settlements all failed, and left scant written evidence of them occurring. What we know about it is from the archeological digs and vague references to a land to the West.

The americas were already populated. What are you talking about? Columbus never even knew he had "discovered" a new continent.

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Not at first but by the time he made his last crossing he knew his mistake.