Crixus
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The Trans Sahara slave trade was established and had been a 700 year long industry before Europe got involved. Europeans did not go to Africa and "kidnap" Africans and sold them to anyone. Europeans bought them from Africans and then shipped them to the Americas.I'm of European ancestry and I burn to a crisp in the sun, I'm so fair skinned. I am also an American. What are "our" statues? What are "our" history books? To me, "our" anything is American. Nobody intentionally antagonizes me. These statues are only of some rebel generals who rebelled against the United States. They do not represent the history of the American people. The history of the American people includes the one-half who are female, those who are non-"white" and who are "white," and those of so many of different backgrounds and faiths.
I come from Irish immigrants of the 1840's, who decidedly were not welcome, and from Russian/Polish immigrants of the 1910's, who stuck to those who spoke their language and made a life for themselves before the Russian revolution.
So many of us have so many different stories. Those who were brought here in chains from Africa to be slaves, to be worked, beaten, and bred, for no payback, and then were subjected to the murder of Jim Crow and the KKK. Chinese who helped build the railroads, but were forbidden to bring their families here. Japanese-Americans who were confined to camps during WWII, when their German-American brothers and sisters were not, even though the German bund held a huge Nazi extravaganza in Madison Square Garden, and Marian Anderson was not allowed to sing at Constitution Hall.
You can't rewrite history, bubba. You have to tell it all.
Here is what 90% of the problem is. Ignorance and zero understanding of your countries history. All that "internment" was set in motion by a democrat presidant. And it was YOUR europien ancestors who sold salves from Africa here in the US. So be proud of your europienness. Tear down statues of confederate generals? Why? Is that not part of our history as well? How about your president at the time of the civil war, the one who NEVER wanted blacks and whites mixing? Go back and read Abe Lincolns campaign speeches and debate notes. You won't because it's way more easy to take Rachael Madows word for it. Those confederate generals were Americans, and they fought for what they percieved WAS America, and it was not for slavery. America was different then. Statues to confederate generals IS America owning it's past. It's YOU Nazi's who are erasing it.
Internment of German Americans - Wikipedia
This article is about the internment of German nationals and German-American citizens in the United States during World War II. For the contemporary internment of Italian nationals and Italian-American citizens, see Internment of Italian Americans. For the contemporary internment of Japanese Americans and Japanese nationals, see Internment of Japanese Americans.
Internment of German resident aliens and German-American citizens occurred in the United States during the periods of World War I & World War II. During World War II, the legal basis for this detention was under Presidential Proclamation 2526, made by President Franklin Delano Roosevelt under the
I don't take Rachel Maddow's word at all since I don't even watch her, even though I respect her a lot due to her background as a U.S. Rhodes Scholar, with degrees from Stanford and Oxford in public policy and the care that she takes in backing up her assertions with facts. Statues of traitor generals belong in museums, not in the public square where those whom they sought to oppress would see them. They do not belong in a place of honor. They do not represent the U.S. Nation. I could not have had a president during the Civil War because I wasn't even alive then. My ancestors never sold anyone to anyone.
How do you know? Europe sold slaves to America. That's a fact. That fact aside, here you are benefitting from all this work on the black mans back, give it back to them. And again, I'll point out why you look dumb when you post shit like that last post. You respect a person because of the pieces of paper they say they have. Rhodes scholars as well as PHD's recorded the history you ignore. Unlike you who has given nothing, only taken, the generals who fought he civil war, and those who fought the Indian wars, as well as the wars with Spain, France, Mexico, all of them earned their place up on a pedistool cast in Broncs. You? Just a snott nosed consumer who is impressed by paper, yet men who fought on the losing side of the civil war went on to build the country who's history you say needs erasing because the lady on TV with a PHD said.
Yes, nearly every slave shipped to the Americas were in fact already slaves and were in fact made into slaves by African warlords who began selling them to Europe.
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The patronized, "African American" hardly knows any of this. If they ever learned actual history during that black patronizing month that they call black HISTORY month....well they wouldn't be so enslaved by their old democrat massas.
So, they will always be patronized in order to keep that grievance INDUSTRY thriving.
What does this matter to anyone? Tell all of history the way it was and how these actions were experienced by ALL people who were involved at the time.
Pounding out revisionist theories of what happened with the slave trade does nothing to deflect from the fact that we are all here in the present moment dealing with each other and deciding on a future course for us to take.
The OP is bleating about "productive" c as if they are the only persons here, rather than part of a much larger group of "productive" Americans who don't fit this description.
And there are plenty of "productive" white christian heterosexual males who support the Democratic Party.
These "productive" white christian heterosexual males (not all of them) who play identity politics aren't worth any more than the rest of us. They count, but only as equals with the rest of us.
Then forget 250 years ago and live here now today. Only people who have way to much time on heir hands get pissed over shit that happens 200 years ago. Slavery is dead, well illegal now. Move on.