Have you been recruited?

[Wry Catcher]

For years many of those opposing RussiaGate were posting the left was pursuing a socialist / marxist agenda and calling out liberals, progressives and the Democratic Party as fellow travelers of Communism.

Now the same posters are defending Putin, attacking Mueller and in denial that Trump benefited, if not colluded, with Putin's agenda to attack HRC to Trump' benefit.

This is perplexing. Why is this switch in play by so many of you? Have you considered you have been recruited, and are now a recruiter?

One more thing, the Deep State Meme has never been defined. It is a conspiracy theory, but lacks the substance to even be called a theory.

 

[depotoo]

No one is defending Putin. He’s a bad apple. He just didn’t orchestrate what the left accuses him of. They did.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

The progressive left are the unwitting puppets of Russia.
It is beginning to look like they will never realize this sad fact.

 

[toobfreak]

For years many of those opposing RussiaGate were posting the left was pursuing a socialist / marxist agenda and calling out liberals, progressives and the Democratic Party as fellow travelers of Communism.

Now the same posters are defending Putin, attacking Mueller and in denial that Trump benefited, if not colluded, with Putin's agenda to attack HRC to Trump' benefit.

This is perplexing. Why is this switch in play by so many of you? Have you considered you have been recruited, and are now a recruiter?

One more thing, the Deep State Meme has never been defined. It is a conspiracy theory, but lacks the substance to even be called a theory.

DEFENDING PUTIN: I haven't seen one person here DEFEND Putin. But I have seen people point out that they have not seen any CONCLUSIVE PROOF that Russia tampered with the election. Even Julian Assange said a couple years ago that his source was NOT Russia. Oddly, the ONE PERSON we KNOW FOR A FACT colluded with Russia was Hillary! And no one is looking at that!

TRUMP BENEFITED: Again, how do we know this and where? And if Trump did benefit, it is yet another thing to show that he was a participant in that benefit.

Pointing out the facts and evidence, even when it leads to things you personally do not favor, is called objectivity. You call it "recruitment."

 

[Wry Catcher]

The first to responders offer an opinion sans evidence. I have questions for them.

Did you accuse liberals, progressives and Democrats in the past of being fellow travelers of communism?

Yes or No. If yes, what has changed?

 

[Wry Catcher]

For years many of those opposing RussiaGate were posting the left was pursuing a socialist / marxist agenda and calling out liberals, progressives and the Democratic Party as fellow travelers of Communism.

Now the same posters are defending Putin, attacking Mueller and in denial that Trump benefited, if not colluded, with Putin's agenda to attack HRC to Trump' benefit.

This is perplexing. Why is this switch in play by so many of you? Have you considered you have been recruited, and are now a recruiter?

One more thing, the Deep State Meme has never been defined. It is a conspiracy theory, but lacks the substance to even be called a theory.

DEFENDING PUTIN: I haven't seen one person here DEFEND Putin. But I have seen people point out that they have not seen any CONCLUSIVE PROOF that Russia tampered with the election. Even Julian Assange said a couple years ago that his source was NOT Russia. Oddly, the ONE PERSON we KNOW FOR A FACT colluded with Russia was Hillary! And no one is looking at that!

TRUMP BENEFITED: Again, how do we know this and where? And if Trump did benefit, it is yet another thing to show that he was a participant in that benefit.

Pointing out the facts and evidence, even when it leads to things you personally do not favor, is called objectivity. You call it "recruitment."

Herein ^^^ is an example of what I believe to be true. The propaganda attacking HRC infected her campaign, and is repeated as a BIG LIE, since no evidence has ever been presented which is probative.

 

[depotoo]

Just admit it, you know you guys are in deep sh*t.

The first to responders offer an opinion sans evidence. I have questions for them.

Did you accuse liberals, progressives and Democrats in the past of being fellow travelers of communism?

Yes or No. If yes, what has changed?

 

[Correll]

For years many of those opposing RussiaGate were posting the left was pursuing a socialist / marxist agenda and calling out liberals, progressives and the Democratic Party as fellow travelers of Communism.

Now the same posters are defending Putin, attacking Mueller and in denial that Trump benefited, if not colluded, with Putin's agenda to attack HRC to Trump' benefit.

This is perplexing. Why is this switch in play by so many of you? Have you considered you have been recruited, and are now a recruiter?

One more thing, the Deep State Meme has never been defined. It is a conspiracy theory, but lacks the substance to even be called a theory.

1. For one limited example, the defense of Antifa by so many of the more "mainstream" democrats, show that we were right all along.

2. We don't believe that Trump colluded with Putin. So we deny it. Indeed, it is not clear that Trump benefited from Putin's alleged meddling.

3. The Deep State:

Deep state in the United States - Wikipedia

" United States the term "deep state" is used within political science to describe influential decision-making bodies believed to be within government who are relatively permanent and whose policies and long-term plans are unaffected by changing administrations. The term is often used in a critical sense, vis-à-vis, the general electorate to refer to the lack of influence popular democracy has on these institutions and the decisions they make as a shadow government...."


"While definitions vary, the term gained popularity among various groups, primarily supporters of Donald Trump, Bernie Sanders, and conspiracy theorists, during the 2016 U.S. presidential election, in opposition to establishment Republican and Democratic candidates. Since Trump's inauguration, the term has been used by some commentators, who argue that a "deep state" is aiming to delegitimize the Trump presidency and thwart its policy goals"


"President Donald Trump supporters use the term to refer to allegations that intelligence officers and executive branch officials guide policy through leaking or other internal means.[21][11] According to a July 2017 report by the United States Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, "the Trump administration was being hit by national security leaks 'on a nearly daily basis' and at a far higher rate than its predecessors encountered".


"According to a poll of Americans in April 2017, about half (48%) thought there was a "deep state", "meaning military, intelligence and government officials who try to secretly manipulate government." Of those who thought that, more than half (58%) said it was a major problem (net of 28% surveyed).[31][32]

A March 2018 poll found most respondents (63%) were unfamiliar with the term "deep state", but a majority believe that a deep state likely exists in the United States when described as "a group of unelected government and military officials who secretly manipulate or direct national policy". Three-fourths (74%) of the respondents say that they believe this type of group definitely (27%) or probably (47%) exists in the federal government."

 

[bullwinkle]

The progressive left are the unwitting puppets of Russia.
It is beginning to look like they will never realize this sad fact.

The progressive left? Look again. grandpa! Open your eyes and stop being one of the 'none so blind as him who will not see' crowd.

Alabama-based League of the South launches Russian-language page to promote 'Southern nationalism'

 

[sparky]

Look up the history of election meddling
Foreign electoral intervention - Wikipedia

Maybe it'll dawn on a few here that this 'witch hunt' is actually been a loooOOOOong history of biz as usual

the only 'recruits' are those partisans that it's worked on

~S~

 

[depotoo]

Wonder who paid for and orchestrated this?

The progressive left are the unwitting puppets of Russia.
It is beginning to look like they will never realize this sad fact.

The progressive left? Look again. grandpa! Open your eyes and stop being one of the 'none so blind as him who will not see' crowd.

Alabama-based League of the South launches Russian-language page to promote 'Southern nationalism'

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

The progressive left are the unwitting puppets of Russia.
It is beginning to look like they will never realize this sad fact.

The progressive left? Look again. grandpa! Open your eyes and stop being one of the 'none so blind as him who will not see' crowd.

Alabama-based League of the South launches Russian-language page to promote 'Southern nationalism'

Russias stated goal was to disrupt our political system.
Democrats are STILL engaged in this very activity to this day.

Polly want a cracker?

 

[bullwinkle]

The progressive left are the unwitting puppets of Russia.
It is beginning to look like they will never realize this sad fact.

The progressive left? Look again. grandpa! Open your eyes and stop being one of the 'none so blind as him who will not see' crowd.

Alabama-based League of the South launches Russian-language page to promote 'Southern nationalism'

Russias stated goal was to disrupt our political system.
Democrats are STILL engaged in this very activity to this day.

Polly want a cracker?

You didn't read it, did you, Tovarich!

 

[LordBrownTrout]

The deep state/military industrial complex has been well defined.

 

[Jantje_Smit]

One more thing, the Deep State Meme has never been defined. It is a conspiracy theory, but lacks the substance to even be called a theory.

On the other hand, the vast Russian conspiracy is very real, that's not a theory at all, it's a scary fact

And Mueller will prove it any day now...

 

[bullwinkle]

The deep state/military industrial complex has been well defined.

Right! By right wing fringe nutjobs.

 

[Wry Catcher]

For years many of those opposing RussiaGate were posting the left was pursuing a socialist / marxist agenda and calling out liberals, progressives and the Democratic Party as fellow travelers of Communism.

Now the same posters are defending Putin, attacking Mueller and in denial that Trump benefited, if not colluded, with Putin's agenda to attack HRC to Trump' benefit.

This is perplexing. Why is this switch in play by so many of you? Have you considered you have been recruited, and are now a recruiter?

One more thing, the Deep State Meme has never been defined. It is a conspiracy theory, but lacks the substance to even be called a theory.

1. For one limited example, the defense of Antifa by so many of the more "mainstream" democrats, show that we were right all along.

2. We don't believe that Trump colluded with Putin. So we deny it. Indeed, it is not clear that Trump benefited from Putin's alleged meddling.

3. The Deep State:

Deep state in the United States - Wikipedia

" United States the term "deep state" is used within political science to describe influential decision-making bodies believed to be within government who are relatively permanent and whose policies and long-term plans are unaffected by changing administrations. The term is often used in a critical sense, vis-à-vis, the general electorate to refer to the lack of influence popular democracy has on these institutions and the decisions they make as a shadow government...."


"While definitions vary, the term gained popularity among various groups, primarily supporters of Donald Trump, Bernie Sanders, and conspiracy theorists, during the 2016 U.S. presidential election, in opposition to establishment Republican and Democratic candidates. Since Trump's inauguration, the term has been used by some commentators, who argue that a "deep state" is aiming to delegitimize the Trump presidency and thwart its policy goals"


"President Donald Trump supporters use the term to refer to allegations that intelligence officers and executive branch officials guide policy through leaking or other internal means.[21][11] According to a July 2017 report by the United States Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, "the Trump administration was being hit by national security leaks 'on a nearly daily basis' and at a far higher rate than its predecessors encountered".


"According to a poll of Americans in April 2017, about half (48%) thought there was a "deep state", "meaning military, intelligence and government officials who try to secretly manipulate government." Of those who thought that, more than half (58%) said it was a major problem (net of 28% surveyed).[31][32]

A March 2018 poll found most respondents (63%) were unfamiliar with the term "deep state", but a majority believe that a deep state likely exists in the United States when described as "a group of unelected government and military officials who secretly manipulate or direct national policy". Three-fourths (74%) of the respondents say that they believe this type of group definitely (27%) or probably (47%) exists in the federal government."

The information in the link suggests the Deep State is an amorphous body. It seems such an organization would have an agenda too difficult to keep hidden, and one which could not remain secret if more than a few were members.

The closet example which comes to mind is the K st. group organized by Grover Norquist:

Grover Norquist - GU Politics

 

[candycorn]

For years many of those opposing RussiaGate were posting the left was pursuing a socialist / marxist agenda and calling out liberals, progressives and the Democratic Party as fellow travelers of Communism.

Now the same posters are defending Putin, attacking Mueller and in denial that Trump benefited, if not colluded, with Putin's agenda to attack HRC to Trump' benefit.

This is perplexing. Why is this switch in play by so many of you? Have you considered you have been recruited, and are now a recruiter?

One more thing, the Deep State Meme has never been defined. It is a conspiracy theory, but lacks the substance to even be called a theory.

The "deep state", the "swamp" are strictly creations of the blob. They will go away quickly once the blob is out of office. They will be back when they (or the Dems for that matter) need to have an enemy to rally their base. Do I think there are racists in the nation? Sure. Do I think they are remotely organized as a system to keep non-whites in their place? No. The racist organizations are not even affiliated...much less different branches of the same tree. But, when it serves their purpose, the Dems/Libeals will cite some shadowy "system" that blacks and other minorities are up against. The desired result? More contributions, votes, support, etc... from the supposedly inflicted community.

 

[candycorn]

For years many of those opposing RussiaGate were posting the left was pursuing a socialist / marxist agenda and calling out liberals, progressives and the Democratic Party as fellow travelers of Communism.

Now the same posters are defending Putin, attacking Mueller and in denial that Trump benefited, if not colluded, with Putin's agenda to attack HRC to Trump' benefit.

This is perplexing. Why is this switch in play by so many of you? Have you considered you have been recruited, and are now a recruiter?

One more thing, the Deep State Meme has never been defined. It is a conspiracy theory, but lacks the substance to even be called a theory.

1. For one limited example, the defense of Antifa by so many of the more "mainstream" democrats, show that we were right all along.

2. We don't believe that Trump colluded with Putin. So we deny it. Indeed, it is not clear that Trump benefited from Putin's alleged meddling.

3. The Deep State:

Deep state in the United States - Wikipedia

" United States the term "deep state" is used within political science to describe influential decision-making bodies believed to be within government who are relatively permanent and whose policies and long-term plans are unaffected by changing administrations. The term is often used in a critical sense, vis-à-vis, the general electorate to refer to the lack of influence popular democracy has on these institutions and the decisions they make as a shadow government...."


"While definitions vary, the term gained popularity among various groups, primarily supporters of Donald Trump, Bernie Sanders, and conspiracy theorists, during the 2016 U.S. presidential election, in opposition to establishment Republican and Democratic candidates. Since Trump's inauguration, the term has been used by some commentators, who argue that a "deep state" is aiming to delegitimize the Trump presidency and thwart its policy goals"


"President Donald Trump supporters use the term to refer to allegations that intelligence officers and executive branch officials guide policy through leaking or other internal means.[21][11] According to a July 2017 report by the United States Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, "the Trump administration was being hit by national security leaks 'on a nearly daily basis' and at a far higher rate than its predecessors encountered".


"According to a poll of Americans in April 2017, about half (48%) thought there was a "deep state", "meaning military, intelligence and government officials who try to secretly manipulate government." Of those who thought that, more than half (58%) said it was a major problem (net of 28% surveyed).[31][32]

A March 2018 poll found most respondents (63%) were unfamiliar with the term "deep state", but a majority believe that a deep state likely exists in the United States when described as "a group of unelected government and military officials who secretly manipulate or direct national policy". Three-fourths (74%) of the respondents say that they believe this type of group definitely (27%) or probably (47%) exists in the federal government."

Mike Pompeo laughingly dismissed the entire idea that there is a "deep state"

Pompeo: No 'deep state' at State or CIA

Trump says there is.

Who do you believe and why?

 

[MarathonMike]

Whoa how did you know? You got me I now post for cases of Stoli and Russian caviar. Get a grip catcher