Heated disagreement breaks out in Situation Room over hydroxychloroquine, Navarro vs Fauci

[Seawytch]

Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.

We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

And if the patients doctor recommends the drugs as a course of treatment, it will be administered. Approval will take months, maybe years of research. Again, this isn't a miracle drug that will save Trump. He's cooked his own goose here.
Excellent briefings?..LOL. I am always amazed at Trump supporters ability to make their own reality. They really do live in their own little world. His briefings are rambling, disjointed diatribes laced with the occasional dangerous pieces of misinformation.

what misinformation has been put out at the daily briefings? you made the allegation, back it up.

Trump's handling of this unforeseen, one of a kind, virus invasion has been better than anyone could have expected. When he blocked Chinese incoming travel, you assholes called him racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic, same when he block travel from Europe. But those bans have saved thousands, if not millions, of american lives.

So tell us, oh brilliant one, what would hillary have done better or differently? Be specific, no talking points or bullshit.

Still on Hillary after what? 3 years now? Trump is President. Not Hillary. Not Obama. Not Biden. He owns this disaster.
Done differently? Or better? Take your pick. Rubio, Cruz, Bush, even Pence responds better.

I'll wait for the rabid Trump supporter response.

So in your small mind Trump is responsible for a virus created in china and lied about for months by China and the WHO?

Yes, trump is president and will be until 2025.

so let me repeat my question: what would any of your dem heroes done differently? You call it a disaster, tell us what any of them would have done to prevent the "disaster".

or as an alternative, you could just STFU and go away.

Your answer. They would have taken the virus threat seriously and acted. In other words, they would have done their jobs. All of them. Even the Republican candidates for President in 2016.
Your boy fucked up. And he'll be shown the door for it in November. But you keep hope alive. Now, back to the alt-right dungeon with you.

I asked you what they would have done differently, "taken it seriously" is not an answer. specifically with time lines, what would any of them have done differently? Biden said stopping travel from China was racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic. Now, he says it was the right thing to do. From that we can only conclude that he would have delayed the ban until more americans had been infected.

Link to Biden saying that the Travel Ban from China was racist and xenophobic. I'm going to clue you in...you won't find it because he didn't say anything about the travel ban being racist or xenophobic. Once again Trump has made you look even more the fool than you are all by your lonesome.

Fact-check: Did Biden call Trump ‘xenophobic’ for China travel restrictions?

This piece was originally published on PolitiFact.com on March 27, 2020. Amid criticism of his administration’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, President Donald Trump routinely flags one a…

www.statesman.com

This is rich coming from someone who doesn’t blame China. Your logic was so flawed I laughed out loud at your expense.

Do you understand what any of those words mean? How does my pointing out that Biden did not call Trump racist or xenophobic because of his travel ban to China, but for his actual history of racism and xenophobia equate to "rich coming from someone who doesn't blame China"? What does one have to do with the other? Please, explain your "laugh out loud logic".

Nope. Until you admit that China is 100% at fault and gave me this virus, we have nothing to discuss.

Well that's transparent as glass. You can't actually explain yourself so you give me a ridiculous ultimatum? Thanks for confirming that you don't understand.

You have to kidding. If you cannot even agree with me that China is to blame how can we have a logical conversation. I have Been transparent with you on every topic. You’re just irrational. When you stop acting like a child feel free to ping me.

Because "China" isn't to blame. It's a virus. It is as natural as hurricanes. And there will be another supervirus that kills a bunch of people. When it originates here, do you want the United States to be "blamed" for a naturally occuring event?

You're still trying to dodge your incoherant rant from a few posts ago. Here, I'll sum it up:

I aksed Fishy to back up his bullshit that Biden called Trump a racist xenophobe because of his travel ban to china. You came back with a non sensical non sequiture about how my position is illogical because I don't "blame" China for the COVID 19 virus. I asked you to explain how that was illogical and you refused unless I supported your position that China was to blame. Really ironic that you then call me a child.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.

We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

And if the patients doctor recommends the drugs as a course of treatment, it will be administered. Approval will take months, maybe years of research. Again, this isn't a miracle drug that will save Trump. He's cooked his own goose here.
Excellent briefings?..LOL. I am always amazed at Trump supporters ability to make their own reality. They really do live in their own little world. His briefings are rambling, disjointed diatribes laced with the occasional dangerous pieces of misinformation.

what misinformation has been put out at the daily briefings? you made the allegation, back it up.

Trump's handling of this unforeseen, one of a kind, virus invasion has been better than anyone could have expected. When he blocked Chinese incoming travel, you assholes called him racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic, same when he block travel from Europe. But those bans have saved thousands, if not millions, of american lives.

So tell us, oh brilliant one, what would hillary have done better or differently? Be specific, no talking points or bullshit.

Still on Hillary after what? 3 years now? Trump is President. Not Hillary. Not Obama. Not Biden. He owns this disaster.
Done differently? Or better? Take your pick. Rubio, Cruz, Bush, even Pence responds better.

I'll wait for the rabid Trump supporter response.

So in your small mind Trump is responsible for a virus created in china and lied about for months by China and the WHO?

Yes, trump is president and will be until 2025.

so let me repeat my question: what would any of your dem heroes done differently? You call it a disaster, tell us what any of them would have done to prevent the "disaster".

or as an alternative, you could just STFU and go away.

Your answer. They would have taken the virus threat seriously and acted. In other words, they would have done their jobs. All of them. Even the Republican candidates for President in 2016.
Your boy fucked up. And he'll be shown the door for it in November. But you keep hope alive. Now, back to the alt-right dungeon with you.

I asked you what they would have done differently, "taken it seriously" is not an answer. specifically with time lines, what would any of them have done differently? Biden said stopping travel from China was racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic. Now, he says it was the right thing to do. From that we can only conclude that he would have delayed the ban until more americans had been infected.

Link to Biden saying that the Travel Ban from China was racist and xenophobic. I'm going to clue you in...you won't find it because he didn't say anything about the travel ban being racist or xenophobic. Once again Trump has made you look even more the fool than you are all by your lonesome.

Fact-check: Did Biden call Trump ‘xenophobic’ for China travel restrictions?

This piece was originally published on PolitiFact.com on March 27, 2020. Amid criticism of his administration’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, President Donald Trump routinely flags one a…

www.statesman.com

This is rich coming from someone who doesn’t blame China. Your logic was so flawed I laughed out loud at your expense.

Do you understand what any of those words mean? How does my pointing out that Biden did not call Trump racist or xenophobic because of his travel ban to China, but for his actual history of racism and xenophobia equate to "rich coming from someone who doesn't blame China"? What does one have to do with the other? Please, explain your "laugh out loud logic".

Nope. Until you admit that China is 100% at fault and gave me this virus, we have nothing to discuss.

Well that's transparent as glass. You can't actually explain yourself so you give me a ridiculous ultimatum? Thanks for confirming that you don't understand.

You have to kidding. If you cannot even agree with me that China is to blame how can we have a logical conversation. I have Been transparent with you on every topic. You’re just irrational. When you stop acting like a child feel free to ping me.

Because "China" isn't to blame. It's a virus. It is as natural as hurricanes. And there will be another supervirus that kills a bunch of people. When it originates here, do you want the United States to be "blamed" for a naturally occuring event?

You're still trying to dodge your incoherant rant from a few posts ago. Here, I'll sum it up:

I aksed Fishy to back up his bullshit that Biden called Trump a racist xenophobe because of his travel ban to china. You came back with a non sensical non sequiture about how my position is illogical because I don't "blame" China for the COVID 19 virus. I asked you to explain how that was illogical and you refused unless I supported your position that China was to blame. Really ironic that you then call me a child.

Nope. Wrong again. And China lied about it.
It is not nearly the same as a tornado.

You are uneducated on the matter. Educate yourself

 

[The VOR]

You should find a packed church and go hang out in there for about a week. But straight home after that, we don't want you infecting any other people.

Something to consider, as 23 million Americans had their lives destroyed so far by government edicts that destroyed their jobs and their ability to keep a roof over their head or food for their children:

NOT ONE GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE AT ANY LEVEL HAS OR WILL MISS A SINGLE PAYCHECK.

Government workers are all for a shutdown of 10 years, what do they care?

So, you work for what, county? State? Federal?

What "government edicts", and issued by who, destroyed people's lives?

What is it about government workers that you despise so much that you hate to see them not suffer due to this pandemic?

And the answer to your question(s) is nope, nope and nope. I work for a private company.

 

[eagle1462010]

Because "China" isn't to blame. It's a virus. It is as natural as hurricanes. And there will be another supervirus that kills a bunch of people. When it originates here, do you want the United States to be "blamed" for a naturally occuring event?

It came from China...........SARs 2003 came from China...........They eat anything that moves.............They eat shit not fit for human consumption because of their population. And have given DEATH to the world.

How about we do some fly overs there......and say.......OOPS.....Sorry I was eating a sandwich and hit the wrong button.........Sorry.

 

[eagle1462010]

Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.

We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

And if the patients doctor recommends the drugs as a course of treatment, it will be administered. Approval will take months, maybe years of research. Again, this isn't a miracle drug that will save Trump. He's cooked his own goose here.
Excellent briefings?..LOL. I am always amazed at Trump supporters ability to make their own reality. They really do live in their own little world. His briefings are rambling, disjointed diatribes laced with the occasional dangerous pieces of misinformation.

what misinformation has been put out at the daily briefings? you made the allegation, back it up.

Trump's handling of this unforeseen, one of a kind, virus invasion has been better than anyone could have expected. When he blocked Chinese incoming travel, you assholes called him racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic, same when he block travel from Europe. But those bans have saved thousands, if not millions, of american lives.

So tell us, oh brilliant one, what would hillary have done better or differently? Be specific, no talking points or bullshit.

Still on Hillary after what? 3 years now? Trump is President. Not Hillary. Not Obama. Not Biden. He owns this disaster.
Done differently? Or better? Take your pick. Rubio, Cruz, Bush, even Pence responds better.

I'll wait for the rabid Trump supporter response.

So in your small mind Trump is responsible for a virus created in china and lied about for months by China and the WHO?

Yes, trump is president and will be until 2025.

so let me repeat my question: what would any of your dem heroes done differently? You call it a disaster, tell us what any of them would have done to prevent the "disaster".

or as an alternative, you could just STFU and go away.

Your answer. They would have taken the virus threat seriously and acted. In other words, they would have done their jobs. All of them. Even the Republican candidates for President in 2016.
Your boy fucked up. And he'll be shown the door for it in November. But you keep hope alive. Now, back to the alt-right dungeon with you.

I asked you what they would have done differently, "taken it seriously" is not an answer. specifically with time lines, what would any of them have done differently? Biden said stopping travel from China was racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic. Now, he says it was the right thing to do. From that we can only conclude that he would have delayed the ban until more americans had been infected.

Link to Biden saying that the Travel Ban from China was racist and xenophobic. I'm going to clue you in...you won't find it because he didn't say anything about the travel ban being racist or xenophobic. Once again Trump has made you look even more the fool than you are all by your lonesome.

Fact-check: Did Biden call Trump ‘xenophobic’ for China travel restrictions?

This piece was originally published on PolitiFact.com on March 27, 2020. Amid criticism of his administration’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, President Donald Trump routinely flags one a…

www.statesman.com

This is rich coming from someone who doesn’t blame China. Your logic was so flawed I laughed out loud at your expense.

Do you understand what any of those words mean? How does my pointing out that Biden did not call Trump racist or xenophobic because of his travel ban to China, but for his actual history of racism and xenophobia equate to "rich coming from someone who doesn't blame China"? What does one have to do with the other? Please, explain your "laugh out loud logic".

Nope. Until you admit that China is 100% at fault and gave me this virus, we have nothing to discuss.

Well that's transparent as glass. You can't actually explain yourself so you give me a ridiculous ultimatum? Thanks for confirming that you don't understand.

You have to kidding. If you cannot even agree with me that China is to blame how can we have a logical conversation. I have Been transparent with you on every topic. You’re just irrational. When you stop acting like a child feel free to ping me.

Because "China" isn't to blame. It's a virus. It is as natural as hurricanes. And there will be another supervirus that kills a bunch of people. When it originates here, do you want the United States to be "blamed" for a naturally occuring event?

You're still trying to dodge your incoherant rant from a few posts ago. Here, I'll sum it up:

I aksed Fishy to back up his bullshit that Biden called Trump a racist xenophobe because of his travel ban to china. You came back with a non sensical non sequiture about how my position is illogical because I don't "blame" China for the COVID 19 virus. I asked you to explain how that was illogical and you refused unless I supported your position that China was to blame. Really ironic that you then call me a child.

Nope. Wrong again. And China lied about it.
It is not nearly the same as a tornado.

You are uneducated on the matter. Educate yourself

These people are supposed to be Americans......I'm having trouble believing it anymore.

 

[g5000]

I know this much, Navarro has been a hawk on China, well ahead of the game in terms of what threat they pose to the world. The guy I probably most trust in his administration to stay the course on confronting abusers of America.

Navarro is not a medical expert. He's a fourth rate fake economist literally picked off Amazon.com by Kushner like a bottle of shampoo.

Nor are you a medical expert.

As for China: Most New York Coronavirus Cases Came From Europe, Genomes Show

 

[g5000]

Because "China" isn't to blame. It's a virus. It is as natural as hurricanes. And there will be another supervirus that kills a bunch of people. When it originates here, do you want the United States to be "blamed" for a naturally occuring event?

It came from China...........SARs 2003 came from China...........They eat anything that moves.............They eat shit not fit for human consumption because of their population. And have given DEATH to the world.

How about we do some fly overs there......and say.......OOPS.....Sorry I was eating a sandwich and hit the wrong button.........Sorry.

Most New York Coronavirus Cases Came From Europe, Genomes Show (Published 2020)

Travelers seeded multiple cases starting as early as mid-February, genomes show.

www.nytimes.com

 

[keepitreal]

I know this much, Navarro has been a hawk on China, well ahead of the game in terms of what threat they pose to the world. The guy I probably most trust in his administration to stay the course on confronting abusers of America.

Fauci, has been getting sunshine shined up his behind by CNN in particular for some time. This article was co-written by that guy in high school who I would expect to rat someone out to the teacher if he heard them curse in gym class, Jim Acosta. I think Fauci seeks the spotlight too often and he is a little too sure of himself for my tastes for this type of situation with many unknowns. I'm glad when Trump calls him out about wanting to shut the country down for 2 years, I think it's an odd, broad position to take considering how some states are far less impacted by this virus than others.

Heated disagreement breaks out in Situation Room over hydroxychloroquine

(CNN)There was a heated disagreement in the Situation Room this weekend over the efficacy of the anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine -- but multiple sources say it was mostly one-sided, as President Donald Trump's top trade adviser Peter Navarro feuded with other officials over the drug's unproven effectiveness to treat coronavirus.

The debate is not a new one inside the coronavirus task force -- and medical experts have repeatedly explained to the President that there is a risk in enthusiastically touting hydroxychloroquine in case the drug doesn't ultimately work to combat the virus. But other aides and outside advisers have sided with Trump, including Navarro, who is still not a formal part of the task force but has wedged himself into the meetings.

Axios first reported on the disagreement inside the White House about the drug.

While discussing the latest on hydroxychloroquine this weekend, an exasperated Navarro lashed out at Dr. Anthony Fauci, one of the advisers who has urged caution about the drug, a person familiar with the meeting told CNN.

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[Ray From Cleveland]

After all, we can't use test kits that are not approved by the FDA first

Sure we can. We just need to waive the requirement to do so, which the president has the authority to do so. He exercised that authority mid March.

He does not have the authority to override the FDA. Where do you get that from?

But even if he did, and the test kits were proven faulty like the original ones, what would you on the left be saying then?

He doesn't have direct authority to override the FDA, but he doesn't need to. The FDA is a division of Health and Human Services (who is their Secretary again?). He certainly can "grease" the skids, get the necessary people together to cut through the red tape and remove the barriers that prevented private labs from developing and using their own test kits...if he only had a clue of how government functioned. Starting to see why maybe that's an important quality in an elected leader?

Trump (nor any President) is an expert on all subjects that are associated with the office of President. That's why they assemble cabinets and staff so there are experts at his fingertips.

DJT is not an expert on the military, on the economy, on foreign affairs, medicine or disease. The only thing he is an expert on is business. Even then, I'm sure he seeks advice since business is associated with the economy.

The only so-called expertise of DumBama was being a constitutional scholar, and how many times did the court have to rule against his favor?

Well, with the amount of yes men and "acting" members of his cabinet and staff, how did that work out? Do you think that might have had something to do with the lack of preparedness? All part of knowing how government works or is supposed to work.
Trump has held himself out to be an expert on everything. I've seen his tweets stating so. He knows more than anyone, even the generals. By my count, Trump has filed for bankruptcy seven times, bankrupted two casinos, been fined for and been forced to close his "University", and had a plethora of business ventures he lent his name to go belly up. So, he sucks at business too.

Obama does not matter here. Trump is President. The buck stops on his desk.

President Trump doesn't believe he's an expert on everything. If he believed that, he wouldn't have a staff. Most of the people in the bureaucracies associated with this were there long before Trump came along.

Nobody was prepared for this. Not us, not Europe, nobody. Nobody can prepare for something like this. As for the Presidents business record, most business people could only hope to have such a legacy. He filed for bankruptcy four times, but owned or operated over 500 businesses, which puts him at a less than 1% failure rate.

 

[eagle1462010]

Because "China" isn't to blame. It's a virus. It is as natural as hurricanes. And there will be another supervirus that kills a bunch of people. When it originates here, do you want the United States to be "blamed" for a naturally occuring event?

It came from China...........SARs 2003 came from China...........They eat anything that moves.............They eat shit not fit for human consumption because of their population. And have given DEATH to the world.

How about we do some fly overs there......and say.......OOPS.....Sorry I was eating a sandwich and hit the wrong button.........Sorry.

Most New York Coronavirus Cases Came From Europe, Genomes Show (Published 2020)

Travelers seeded multiple cases starting as early as mid-February, genomes show.

www.nytimes.com

Wow........Really......might be because we limited travel to China.....and not Europe......

Europe got Kung Flu from China.........How about China stop eating radical BS.

 

[g5000]

I know this much, Navarro has been a hawk on China, well ahead of the game in terms of what threat they pose to the world. The guy I probably most trust in his administration to stay the course on confronting abusers of America.

Fauci, has been getting sunshine shined up his behind by CNN in particular for some time. This article was co-written by that guy in high school who I would expect to rat someone out to the teacher if he heard them curse in gym class, Jim Acosta. I think Fauci seeks the spotlight too often and he is a little too sure of himself for my tastes for this type of situation with many unknowns. I'm glad when Trump calls him out about wanting to shut the country down for 2 years, I think it's an odd, broad position to take considering how some states are far less impacted by this virus than others.

Heated disagreement breaks out in Situation Room over hydroxychloroquine

(CNN)There was a heated disagreement in the Situation Room this weekend over the efficacy of the anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine -- but multiple sources say it was mostly one-sided, as President Donald Trump's top trade adviser Peter Navarro feuded with other officials over the drug's unproven effectiveness to treat coronavirus.

The debate is not a new one inside the coronavirus task force -- and medical experts have repeatedly explained to the President that there is a risk in enthusiastically touting hydroxychloroquine in case the drug doesn't ultimately work to combat the virus. But other aides and outside advisers have sided with Trump, including Navarro, who is still not a formal part of the task force but has wedged himself into the meetings.

Axios first reported on the disagreement inside the White House about the drug.

While discussing the latest on hydroxychloroquine this weekend, an exasperated Navarro lashed out at Dr. Anthony Fauci, one of the advisers who has urged caution about the drug, a person familiar with the meeting told CNN.

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"A high-level source sent me this." BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!

Oh, man. That's priceless. What a loser.

Fauci has been working in government since Reagan. I'm sure there are photos of him with just about every powerful person on Earth.

 

[g5000]

I know this much, Navarro has been a hawk on China, well ahead of the game in terms of what threat they pose to the world. The guy I probably most trust in his administration to stay the course on confronting abusers of America.

Fauci, has been getting sunshine shined up his behind by CNN in particular for some time. This article was co-written by that guy in high school who I would expect to rat someone out to the teacher if he heard them curse in gym class, Jim Acosta. I think Fauci seeks the spotlight too often and he is a little too sure of himself for my tastes for this type of situation with many unknowns. I'm glad when Trump calls him out about wanting to shut the country down for 2 years, I think it's an odd, broad position to take considering how some states are far less impacted by this virus than others.

Heated disagreement breaks out in Situation Room over hydroxychloroquine

(CNN)There was a heated disagreement in the Situation Room this weekend over the efficacy of the anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine -- but multiple sources say it was mostly one-sided, as President Donald Trump's top trade adviser Peter Navarro feuded with other officials over the drug's unproven effectiveness to treat coronavirus.

The debate is not a new one inside the coronavirus task force -- and medical experts have repeatedly explained to the President that there is a risk in enthusiastically touting hydroxychloroquine in case the drug doesn't ultimately work to combat the virus. But other aides and outside advisers have sided with Trump, including Navarro, who is still not a formal part of the task force but has wedged himself into the meetings.

Axios first reported on the disagreement inside the White House about the drug.

While discussing the latest on hydroxychloroquine this weekend, an exasperated Navarro lashed out at Dr. Anthony Fauci, one of the advisers who has urged caution about the drug, a person familiar with the meeting told CNN.

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"A high-level source sent me this." BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!

Oh, man. That's priceless. What a loser.

Fauci has been working in government since Reagan. I'm sure there are photos of him with just about every powerful person on Earth.

Hey retard. That photo is from an Andrew Carnegie awards ceremony. The photo is of the recipients and the presenters of the awards.

You stupid fuck.

Now pass that on back to the other retards whose shit you ate.

First Andrew Carnegie Medals Awarded to Seven Visionaries of Modern Philanthropy | Carnegie Corporation of New York

Medals Commemorate the Centennial of Carnegie's Retirement and Beginning of His Full Time Philanthropic Career

www.carnegie.org

The presenters included television journalists Tom Brokaw, Bill Moyers and Barbara Walters; Pulitzer-Prize winning historian David McCullough; AOL Time Warner Co-Chief Operating Officer Richard D. Parsons; the respected AIDS researcher and Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at NIH Dr. Anthony S. Fauci and World Bank Managing Director Mamphela Ramphele. CNN's Senior Anchor Judy Woodruff, a trustee of Carnegie Corporation of New York, served as the master of ceremonies.



One of the recipients of the award, Irene Diamond, was recognized for her contributions to AIDS research. That's why Fauci was there.

You stupid, stupid, stupid fucking idiot.




.

 

[lennypartiv]

Fauci has been working in government since Reagan.

But now we know what side he is really on.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

It's less about Trump than it is being honest. During the first two weeks of March, the Democrats were trying to pass a bill to not only strip his authority of travel bans, but rescind his original middle-east travel ban.

False. The bill did not strip his authority for travel bans. You’ve been listening to the wrong people.

Nope, it's right in black and white:

Known as the No Ban Act, the bill would reverse restrictions on the countries under the travel ban and strengthen provisions in the Immigration and Nationality Act that prohibit religious discrimination.

The legislation would require that any future travel ban be temporary, subject to congressional oversight and be based in response to specific actions from foreign agents that pose a threat to the U.S.

House Democrats schedule vote on bill to dismantle Trump travel ban

House Democrats are set to vote on dismantling President Trump’s travel ban and rein in the executive branch’s authority to declare travel restrictions.

www.washingtontimes.com

In other words, it would need congressional approval which means they would stop any travel ban.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.

We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

And if the patients doctor recommends the drugs as a course of treatment, it will be administered. Approval will take months, maybe years of research. Again, this isn't a miracle drug that will save Trump. He's cooked his own goose here.
Excellent briefings?..LOL. I am always amazed at Trump supporters ability to make their own reality. They really do live in their own little world. His briefings are rambling, disjointed diatribes laced with the occasional dangerous pieces of misinformation.

Months and years? Hydrox has been around for 70 years. What are you researching? Doctors all over the world are using it. People are dying now. There is no more time to research. What part of that do you not understand? Doctors are prescribing it. Millions of doses. Do you not read/watch the news? Wake up, Leftist.

I watch the news every day as well as post here. And I know desperation when I smell it. A desperate bid to save Trump's chances in November. Yes, these drugs have been around for years....and are approved to treat certain conditions..which there is a plethora of data for detailing their benefits..after years of research and testing. The FDA took the rails down and doctors are free to prescribe these drugs if they believe they will help the patient. The drug has shown promise in treating infected patients. But taking something that has shown promise in a small group (relatively speaking) and extrapolating that out to say it works for everyone is dangerous. Doctors prescribe medications and decide if they are appropriate. Not politicians or right wing media figures.

So who said it will work for everybody?

That's what the hope is for Trump's supporters. Distribute the drug to all infected. Send everyone back to work, open things up. Presto, Trump gets to do the one thing he's good at again. Campaign.

Trump? How about all the struggling Americans who need the jobs and the income? Your TDS is working overtime today. A great economy is great for everyone. You would rather watch people die and suffer so long as Trump loses? That is frankly sick.

Well, maybe if Trump acts like a President in January and takes the virus outbreak seriously, shutting down the country might not have been needed. But he decided it was more important to golf, hold his rallies, and tweet than it was to actually do his job. But his rabid supporters refuse to hold him accountable. It's everybody else's fault. Yes Trump Defense Syndrome is rampant. It is proving especially resistant to the drug combination of reason and common sense.

China and the WHO were lying to the world about it. If Trump ignored them, you would have said he was dumping on the experts. You are FOS

One of the things that makes me shake my head about rabid Trump supporters like you is that you will never hold him accountable for anything. It's always someone else's fault. Same crap Trump has been pulling his entire adult life.
We are the greatest nation in the world. We don't wait for any country or organization to act before we do. Trump is an incompetent fraud. It's no surprise he failed to act. He doesn't have the capacity.

I hold him fully responsible for our rapid and effective response to this virus.

Its Ok, if you hate him, but please stop the lies about the virus response. It has been outstanding in every way.

No he hasn't. Outside of restricting travel from China and Europe, he largely did nothing until he was forced to on March 13th. But if that's the bar you supporters set for him, that's not my problem. If Trump displayed your idea of "outstanding" in my company, he'd have already been shown the door. I understand he's your guy, though.

Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.

We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

And if the patients doctor recommends the drugs as a course of treatment, it will be administered. Approval will take months, maybe years of research. Again, this isn't a miracle drug that will save Trump. He's cooked his own goose here.
Excellent briefings?..LOL. I am always amazed at Trump supporters ability to make their own reality. They really do live in their own little world. His briefings are rambling, disjointed diatribes laced with the occasional dangerous pieces of misinformation.

Months and years? Hydrox has been around for 70 years. What are you researching? Doctors all over the world are using it. People are dying now. There is no more time to research. What part of that do you not understand? Doctors are prescribing it. Millions of doses. Do you not read/watch the news? Wake up, Leftist.

I watch the news every day as well as post here. And I know desperation when I smell it. A desperate bid to save Trump's chances in November. Yes, these drugs have been around for years....and are approved to treat certain conditions..which there is a plethora of data for detailing their benefits..after years of research and testing. The FDA took the rails down and doctors are free to prescribe these drugs if they believe they will help the patient. The drug has shown promise in treating infected patients. But taking something that has shown promise in a small group (relatively speaking) and extrapolating that out to say it works for everyone is dangerous. Doctors prescribe medications and decide if they are appropriate. Not politicians or right wing media figures.

So who said it will work for everybody?

That's what the hope is for Trump's supporters. Distribute the drug to all infected. Send everyone back to work, open things up. Presto, Trump gets to do the one thing he's good at again. Campaign.

Trump? How about all the struggling Americans who need the jobs and the income? Your TDS is working overtime today. A great economy is great for everyone. You would rather watch people die and suffer so long as Trump loses? That is frankly sick.

Well, maybe if Trump acts like a President in January and takes the virus outbreak seriously, shutting down the country might not have been needed. But he decided it was more important to golf, hold his rallies, and tweet than it was to actually do his job. But his rabid supporters refuse to hold him accountable. It's everybody else's fault. Yes Trump Defense Syndrome is rampant. It is proving especially resistant to the drug combination of reason and common sense.

China and the WHO were lying to the world about it. If Trump ignored them, you would have said he was dumping on the experts. You are FOS

One of the things that makes me shake my head about rabid Trump supporters like you is that you will never hold him accountable for anything. It's always someone else's fault. Same crap Trump has been pulling his entire adult life.
We are the greatest nation in the world. We don't wait for any country or organization to act before we do. Trump is an incompetent fraud. It's no surprise he failed to act. He doesn't have the capacity.

I hold him fully responsible for our rapid and effective response to this virus.

Its Ok, if you hate him, but please stop the lies about the virus response. It has been outstanding in every way.

No he hasn't. Outside of restricting travel from China and Europe, he largely did nothing until he was forced to on March 13th. But if that's the bar you supporters set for him, that's not my problem. If Trump displayed your idea of "outstanding" in my company, he'd have already been shown the door. I understand he's your guy, though.

The President acted on advice from the CDC. They were calling the shots, not the President.

Orange Man Bad. They can’t take it. By definition everything he does is bad because he is Trump.

Remember the whole lie about stealing the election from a HIllary? People just moved on to the next thing because OMB!

He responded to the virus with a racist travel ban!

He didn’t do it soon enough! Just morons. Many disingenuous as well.

It's your typical leftist game of trying to put Republicans in a damned if you do and damned if you don't position.

They were crying that Trump didn't listen to his people; Trump does what Trump wants, and ignores everybody else; Trump thinks he's king and only he calls all the shots.

What the President did was exactly what they were complaining that he doesn't do. He was listening to the recommendation of the CDC, the FDA, and the medical personnel on is staff. Guess what? Now they are complaining he didn't disregard their input and act on his own.

It’s going to be some time before we really understand what Trump did with the information he got, including Congressional hearings.

Sorry, but I don’t think you can justify saying that he did everything they told him to do.

Sure I can. Need the timeline? I have it if you like.

Nobody ever imagined our country could be anything like this. It's something very few alive today have ever experienced.

No, you can’t. Not without interviewing the people who have been involved.

Although we all know how Trump feels about his staff testifying under oath, so I wouldn’t hold my breath.

Correct. Trump doesn't allow his staff to entertain the commies and their witch hunts. They have more important things to do than play games.

So we will never know the truth. Only what Trump tells us. And he’s never exaggerate or lie, right?

Right?

Trump underestimated the impact early on, as did Pelosi and Cuomo. Should they be removed from office?

Pelosi went to Chinatown on Feb 25th. She encouraged people to go there. Shouldn’t she have been practicing social distancing?

Doesn’t bother you because she is a Dimm. If Trump had done it you would lose your mind.

The first stay at home order in the country was March 17th, in the Bay Area. At the time seen as a provocative move. So, who cares about February 24th (not 25th)?

First death was Feb 28th. So you close the country on one death?

Trump following about 45 other countries closed down travel from China (though the ban was looked more like swiss cheese) and I guess you're saying he overreacted?

1 death, great context dude.

The “ban” on travel to China was anything but. It did not include US citizens. Now, if you’re really going to be okay with US citizens traveling to and from Wuhan, then you have to get serious about tracking, testing and quarantining them. In fact, we should have been doing just that with any traveler to and from any affected country.

However, our response did not do so. We didn’t have the testing. We didn’t have the tracking. We didn’t quarantine.

The power to quarantine anybody is in the hands of the CDC.

The CDC is an agency of the executive branch. That power comes directly from Trump.

No it does not. He has to issue the order to quarantine, but the decision to do so comes from the CDC. From the CDC website:

Federal Law

The federal government derives its authority for isolation and quarantine from the Commerce Clause of the U.S. Constitution.

Under section 361 of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S. Code § 264), the U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services is authorized to take measures to prevent the entry and spread of communicable diseases from foreign countries into the United States and between states.

The authority for carrying out these functions on a daily basis has been delegated to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

Legal Authorities for Isolation and Quarantine | Quarantine | CDC

Isolation and quarantine help protect the public by preventing exposure to people who have or may have a contagious disease. Page content includes the regulatory authority and definitions of isolation and quarantine.

www.cdc.gov

All authority for executive agencies come from the president. You cannot delegate authority to one of his agents that is not controlled by the president himself.

That’s the unitary executive theory, anyway. One which William Barr has used to justify various unusual actions by the president in the past.

Remember when Trump claimed he was the chief law enforcement officer of the country? He’s not. He does not indict people. He does not prosecute people. That authority lies with the AG.

Unless you happen to adhere to the strict unitary executive theory, in which case the AG’s authority is derived solely from the president and he therefore has the authority to order investigations, end prosecutions etc.

And Barr claims this:

Barr: Russian Collusion Probe Into Trump "One Of The Greatest Travesties In American History"

Attorney General said the FBI's Russian collusion counterintelligence probe into the Trump campaign was one of the "greatest travesties in American history." In an interview with FNC's Laura Ingraham, Barr said the investigation was started "without any basis" and what happened after the...

www.realclearpolitics.com

But barr has zero cred. Everyone knows he is full of shit. Its just that some people are willing to lie shamelessly and say otherwise.

 

[g5000]

Fauci has been working in government since Reagan.

But now we know what side he is really on.

That's right. He's working on the side of the American people, putting out TRUTH.

You little piss drinking retards are parroting the nazi wannabe's at Fox who don't like people who contradict the fucking lying, fantasizing, deluded dumb fuck acting as an appentice alternate reality president.

You fuckwits have allowed your minds to be so fucking melted that you now believe REALITY and TRUTH are a liberal plot!

Pathetic.

 

[g5000]

Dr. Fauci buys his ties at the same store as George Soros! CONSPIRACY! CONSPIRACY!

 

[Seawytch]

Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.

We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

And if the patients doctor recommends the drugs as a course of treatment, it will be administered. Approval will take months, maybe years of research. Again, this isn't a miracle drug that will save Trump. He's cooked his own goose here.
Excellent briefings?..LOL. I am always amazed at Trump supporters ability to make their own reality. They really do live in their own little world. His briefings are rambling, disjointed diatribes laced with the occasional dangerous pieces of misinformation.

what misinformation has been put out at the daily briefings? you made the allegation, back it up.

Trump's handling of this unforeseen, one of a kind, virus invasion has been better than anyone could have expected. When he blocked Chinese incoming travel, you assholes called him racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic, same when he block travel from Europe. But those bans have saved thousands, if not millions, of american lives.

So tell us, oh brilliant one, what would hillary have done better or differently? Be specific, no talking points or bullshit.

Still on Hillary after what? 3 years now? Trump is President. Not Hillary. Not Obama. Not Biden. He owns this disaster.
Done differently? Or better? Take your pick. Rubio, Cruz, Bush, even Pence responds better.

I'll wait for the rabid Trump supporter response.

So in your small mind Trump is responsible for a virus created in china and lied about for months by China and the WHO?

Yes, trump is president and will be until 2025.

so let me repeat my question: what would any of your dem heroes done differently? You call it a disaster, tell us what any of them would have done to prevent the "disaster".

or as an alternative, you could just STFU and go away.

Your answer. They would have taken the virus threat seriously and acted. In other words, they would have done their jobs. All of them. Even the Republican candidates for President in 2016.
Your boy fucked up. And he'll be shown the door for it in November. But you keep hope alive. Now, back to the alt-right dungeon with you.

I asked you what they would have done differently, "taken it seriously" is not an answer. specifically with time lines, what would any of them have done differently? Biden said stopping travel from China was racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic. Now, he says it was the right thing to do. From that we can only conclude that he would have delayed the ban until more americans had been infected.

Link to Biden saying that the Travel Ban from China was racist and xenophobic. I'm going to clue you in...you won't find it because he didn't say anything about the travel ban being racist or xenophobic. Once again Trump has made you look even more the fool than you are all by your lonesome.

Fact-check: Did Biden call Trump ‘xenophobic’ for China travel restrictions?

This piece was originally published on PolitiFact.com on March 27, 2020. Amid criticism of his administration’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, President Donald Trump routinely flags one a…

www.statesman.com

This is rich coming from someone who doesn’t blame China. Your logic was so flawed I laughed out loud at your expense.

Do you understand what any of those words mean? How does my pointing out that Biden did not call Trump racist or xenophobic because of his travel ban to China, but for his actual history of racism and xenophobia equate to "rich coming from someone who doesn't blame China"? What does one have to do with the other? Please, explain your "laugh out loud logic".

Nope. Until you admit that China is 100% at fault and gave me this virus, we have nothing to discuss.

Well that's transparent as glass. You can't actually explain yourself so you give me a ridiculous ultimatum? Thanks for confirming that you don't understand.

You have to kidding. If you cannot even agree with me that China is to blame how can we have a logical conversation. I have Been transparent with you on every topic. You’re just irrational. When you stop acting like a child feel free to ping me.

Because "China" isn't to blame. It's a virus. It is as natural as hurricanes. And there will be another supervirus that kills a bunch of people. When it originates here, do you want the United States to be "blamed" for a naturally occuring event?

You're still trying to dodge your incoherant rant from a few posts ago. Here, I'll sum it up:

I aksed Fishy to back up his bullshit that Biden called Trump a racist xenophobe because of his travel ban to china. You came back with a non sensical non sequiture about how my position is illogical because I don't "blame" China for the COVID 19 virus. I asked you to explain how that was illogical and you refused unless I supported your position that China was to blame. Really ironic that you then call me a child.

Nope. Wrong again. And China lied about it.
It is not nearly the same as a tornado.

You are uneducated on the matter. Educate yourself

You have the audacity to call someone else uneducated while posting a Facebook link to the Epoch Times? You're not even worth being labeled a joke!

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.

We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

And if the patients doctor recommends the drugs as a course of treatment, it will be administered. Approval will take months, maybe years of research. Again, this isn't a miracle drug that will save Trump. He's cooked his own goose here.
Excellent briefings?..LOL. I am always amazed at Trump supporters ability to make their own reality. They really do live in their own little world. His briefings are rambling, disjointed diatribes laced with the occasional dangerous pieces of misinformation.

what misinformation has been put out at the daily briefings? you made the allegation, back it up.

Trump's handling of this unforeseen, one of a kind, virus invasion has been better than anyone could have expected. When he blocked Chinese incoming travel, you assholes called him racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic, same when he block travel from Europe. But those bans have saved thousands, if not millions, of american lives.

So tell us, oh brilliant one, what would hillary have done better or differently? Be specific, no talking points or bullshit.

Still on Hillary after what? 3 years now? Trump is President. Not Hillary. Not Obama. Not Biden. He owns this disaster.
Done differently? Or better? Take your pick. Rubio, Cruz, Bush, even Pence responds better.

I'll wait for the rabid Trump supporter response.

So in your small mind Trump is responsible for a virus created in china and lied about for months by China and the WHO?

Yes, trump is president and will be until 2025.

so let me repeat my question: what would any of your dem heroes done differently? You call it a disaster, tell us what any of them would have done to prevent the "disaster".

or as an alternative, you could just STFU and go away.

Your answer. They would have taken the virus threat seriously and acted. In other words, they would have done their jobs. All of them. Even the Republican candidates for President in 2016.
Your boy fucked up. And he'll be shown the door for it in November. But you keep hope alive. Now, back to the alt-right dungeon with you.

I asked you what they would have done differently, "taken it seriously" is not an answer. specifically with time lines, what would any of them have done differently? Biden said stopping travel from China was racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic. Now, he says it was the right thing to do. From that we can only conclude that he would have delayed the ban until more americans had been infected.

Link to Biden saying that the Travel Ban from China was racist and xenophobic. I'm going to clue you in...you won't find it because he didn't say anything about the travel ban being racist or xenophobic. Once again Trump has made you look even more the fool than you are all by your lonesome.

Fact-check: Did Biden call Trump ‘xenophobic’ for China travel restrictions?

This piece was originally published on PolitiFact.com on March 27, 2020. Amid criticism of his administration’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, President Donald Trump routinely flags one a…

www.statesman.com

This is rich coming from someone who doesn’t blame China. Your logic was so flawed I laughed out loud at your expense.

Do you understand what any of those words mean? How does my pointing out that Biden did not call Trump racist or xenophobic because of his travel ban to China, but for his actual history of racism and xenophobia equate to "rich coming from someone who doesn't blame China"? What does one have to do with the other? Please, explain your "laugh out loud logic".

Nope. Until you admit that China is 100% at fault and gave me this virus, we have nothing to discuss.

Well that's transparent as glass. You can't actually explain yourself so you give me a ridiculous ultimatum? Thanks for confirming that you don't understand.

You have to kidding. If you cannot even agree with me that China is to blame how can we have a logical conversation. I have Been transparent with you on every topic. You’re just irrational. When you stop acting like a child feel free to ping me.

Because "China" isn't to blame. It's a virus. It is as natural as hurricanes. And there will be another supervirus that kills a bunch of people. When it originates here, do you want the United States to be "blamed" for a naturally occuring event?

You're still trying to dodge your incoherant rant from a few posts ago. Here, I'll sum it up:

I aksed Fishy to back up his bullshit that Biden called Trump a racist xenophobe because of his travel ban to china. You came back with a non sensical non sequiture about how my position is illogical because I don't "blame" China for the COVID 19 virus. I asked you to explain how that was illogical and you refused unless I supported your position that China was to blame. Really ironic that you then call me a child.

Nope. Wrong again. And China lied about it.
It is not nearly the same as a tornado.

You are uneducated on the matter. Educate yourself

You have the audacity to call someone else uneducated while posting a Facebook link to the Epoch Times? You're not even worth being labeled a joke!

Watch the video. The fact that you don't believe that China has one iota of blame is pure insanity.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The fact that you don't believe that China has one iota of blame is pure insanity.

No more or less insane than claiming the mentally ill child president has none.