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You bring up good points. The specific group who gets reparations is now:I am completely against the payment of reparations.
* Payments would settle nothing. Blacks always want something for nothing, and they are never satisfied. So, to Hell with them.
* We would have to deduct enough money to cover all the destruction and crime caused by blacks. After deductions, blacks would still end up owing us trillions of dollars. So, blacks would still end up with what they deserve: NOTHING.
* Blacks are still living in miserable shitholes all over Africa, so we should charge American blacks back rent for having allowed them to live in this great country.
* There is much more to add, but that covers the basics.
* That rant left me exhausted. Will someone please send me a free twenty dollar bill so I can go have a needed drink. I promise to pay you back as soon as I get my first reparations check. See - I'm sounding blacker by the minute. Lol...
* I once had a black eye, so if these idiotic reparations are ever paid I demand my full share, dammit
No one alive today has anything to admit to. No one alive today has owned another person, at least not in this country.
No one needs to apologize for the past or pay for it. Full Stop.
Another excellent point!Gee, IM2...one of my ancestors fought in the Civil War to free the slaves. Does that mean that YOU owe me reparations?
Okay, how about everyone else who is living with the poverty because their ancestors were denied (and are still being denied) opportunities.The money would come with an implicit admission that Jim Crow laws were racist and wrong, and that is why blacks alive today who lived under that system would be getting reparations.
Who’s hiding history? That’s the big lie. We learned all about slavery and Jim Crow laws, and the way blacks were treated in the past. You libs are making to sound as if whites are painting a picture of rose gardens throughout history.
That's tortured history. 19 of 21 DIxieCrat Senators who served under Jim Crow were STILL THERE IN the early 90s. Weren't hardly any Repub govs in South until about Reagan era. And you keep repeating it.
“I'll have them ******* voting Democratic for the next two hundred years. [Said to two governors regarding the Civil Rights Act of 1964, according to then-Air Force One steward Robert MacMillan]”
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Gee, IM2...one of my ancestors fought in the Civil War to free the slaves. Does that mean that YOU owe me reparations?
By stealing from white people to pay for an offense in which the vast majority of us have never had any willing part?
What you propose is to commit the very offense tat you claim in that post to be trying to solve.
What you propose •IS• anti-white racism.
If the government didn’t confiscate the money to put into SS and you invested it in an IRA you would have a higher return that would last as long as you live and the principal could be willed to your defendants.No, they aren't.
Let's review.
Social Security - if you live to be 72, you will have gotten everything you paid into it back. The average lifespan in this country is 78, even after Trump's ineptitude brought it down.
Welfare
Medicare - If you have any kind of serious ailment, you will wipe out everything you ever paid into it. (1% of your lifetime income) in a few weeks.
Welfare.
Unemployment Insurance. - You don't pay into that, your employer does. The fact that they had to raise the benefit during TRUMP PLAGUE(TM) shows how much of a welfare program it is.
Veteran's Benefits. Sorry, man, we are 50 years into the all-volunteer military. You volunteered for that job, you were paid for it. The idea that you can get lifetime benefits for a job you maybe did for two years without a testy foreigner ever shooting at you is kind of silly. My job in the military was sitting behind a desk filling out paperwork. I'm proud to have done it, but I recognize any benefits I get are a gift, not really earned.
Meanwhile, when you are talking about poverty relief programs, most of those people are only on for a short time, and a lot of them involve people who have jobs that don't pay a living wage supplementing their income. And once again, the majority of people who get them are white.
My Great Grandfather was an officer in the 54th Massachusetts Regiment and lost his left arm in battle at Fort Wagner outside of Charleston, South Carolina.One of my ancestors fought in the civil war and he actually did fight to free himself from slavery. Yours didn't. And since the racism has continued long after slavery, try talking about that.
And all reparations should be paid in cash out of the Democratic party of slavery, racial oppression and Jim Crow law's coffers, until the corrupt openly racist Democratic party is no longer financially viable and is dissolved, permanently.
Is that the battle made famous in “Glory”?My Great Grandfather was an officer in the 54th Massachusetts Regiment and lost his left arm in battle at Fort Wagner outside of Charleston, South Carolina.
YesIs that the battle made famous in “Glory”?
So you’re part black (or all black)? I’m very glad to learn that.
He's Oldestyle's relative not mine. But the officers of all the Black ACW units were white. Even in WWII almost all the officers in black units were white.So you’re part black (or all black)? I’m very glad to learn that.
(or were all the officers white?)
Oops. Got mixed up which poster I was replying to.He's Oldestyle's relative not mine. But the officers of all the Black ACW units were white. Even in WWII almost all the officers in black units were white.
That's OK I was sticking my oar into another conversation.Oops. Got mixed up which poster I was replying to.
Thx for the info.
Tortured history is the refusal of righ wing republicans to admit to their complicity instead of putting all the blame on democrats. There was a switch and republicans here just need to quit the lying. Because right now it's not democrats supporting remembering the confederacy, nor did democrats fillibuster the most recent voting rights bill.
No problem.That's OK I was sticking my oar into another conversation.
But that was the point. What happened when those Dixiecrats retired? Were they replaced by moderate Democrats who believed in race equality, or where they replaced by racist Republicans like Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond?
If the government didn’t confiscate the money to put into SS and you invested it in an IRA you would have a higher return that would last as long as you live and the principal could be willed to your defendants.
Medicare is insurance the risk is spread over the entire population and the money is confiscated from the taxpayer. A private insurance plan would return better service for less money.
VA benefits are part of the service contract. Service members work long hours under harsh conditions for less than competitive pay. Plus there are still many millions of people who served before the volunteer military getting benefits. Just because you were a REMF doesn’t mean most service members were.
They largely DID NOT RETIRE. The Democrat party FINALLY tossed the Dixiecrats out. But that was almost 3 DECADES after the CRAct. The problem the Dems had -- is they ALSO TOSSED all the fiscally conservative Blue Dog Dems out. They hunted THOSE to extinction. Because they were not "reliable votes" for tax and spend. HENCE - the lack of MODERATE DEMS in the party today and why the Dems ABANDONED the south..
