Here’s a List of All the Muslim Countries That Ban Jews

[Syriusly]

I think we should do everything necessary to keep out those who do not share American values and support the constitution.

She thinks the inscription on the Statue of Liberty says "Give us your Jihadists, your rapists, your teeming masses yearning to enslave".

Hmmm what does the Statue of Liberty inscription say?

"Give me your tired,

Security hurdle keeps U.S.-bound Iraqi refugees in limbo
your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Trump’s refugee ban also affects Iraqi and Afghan interpreters who helped American servicemen

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,

Darweesh was one of two Iraqis detained at New York’s Kennedy airport after the travel ban was announced. Darweesh, who worked as an interpreter for the US military during the Iraq War, was released from detention Saturday afternoon.

"America is the land of freedom,” he told reporters after his release. “America is the greatest nation.”


If only Conservatives actually cared about what the Statue of Liberty represents.

 

[Syriusly]

Countries the U.S. should not emulate: Syria, Iran, Iraq, Yemen, Libya, Algeria, Bangladesh, Brunei, Kuwait, Lebanon, Malaysia, Oman, Pakistan, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates.

We aren't throwing gays off rooftops, stoning rape victims, hanging people from cranes, planting IEDs in our roads. We wont be importing it either. All is well

But you've certainly bombed the hell out of some of those countries causing way more deaths than the terrorists could ever dream of.

Did we invite potentially belligerent Germans to live with us when we'd 'bombed the hell out of them? No. Why do you think it might be a good idea not to invite people into our countries after we've bombed the hell out of them?

Yes, America did allow Germans into their country after the war. But it was a different kind of war. A war where both sides had a chance to win.

Well Europe didn't allow entry of Germans en masse whilst we were at war with them. I doubt the US did either. And it's absurd to be doing so now.

So you think we are at war with Iraq?

 

[Syriusly]

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how was the o/p false?

Evidently, there are no Jews in Israel.

Evidently Doggie doesn't care that the OP was a lie.

 

[Syriusly]

I love all this divert and deflect from you Lefties and Progs.

When the OP is blatently false what do you expect?

Out of curiousity, do you think we should be following the examples of more restrictive nations?

I think we should do everything necessary to keep out those who do not share American values and support the constitution.

Apparently longknife believes that 'American values' include posting lies.

And that we should not let Canadians visit the United States.

 

[Syriusly]

I love all this divert and deflect from you Lefties and Progs.

When the OP is blatently false what do you expect?

Out of curiousity, do you think we should be following the examples of more restrictive nations?

how was the o/p false?

None of those countries 'ban Jews" as the article said.

It was a lie.

They ban Israeli's- whether the Israeli's are Jewish, Christian or Muslim.
But American Jews can go to all of those countries.

 

[Coyote]

I love all this divert and deflect from you Lefties and Progs.

When the OP is blatently false what do you expect?

Out of curiousity, do you think we should be following the examples of more restrictive nations?

I think we should do everything necessary to keep out those who do not share American values and support the constitution.

Based on what?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

[QUOTE="Tilly, post: 16527740, member: 56137]
Well Europe didn't allow entry of Germans en masse whilst we were at war with them. I doubt the US did either. And it's absurd to be doing so now.[/QUOTE]


What's even worse is that even though Syria is 10% Christians and they are the first victims of ISIS, Obama did not let in but a small handful even as he wanted to mainline the Muslims.

That was is a decision were made in 1943 to push for the importation of as many Germans as possible while refusing the Jews.

Of course, that is the sort of thing mindless leftists have been trained to support.

 

[Syriusly]

Facts about the Syrian Refugees[/URL]

And who are the first victims of ISIS? Well that would be Muslims- the vast majority of ISIS victims are Muslims- because ISIS are Islamic fundmentalist terrorists who think that anyone who does not agree with their fanatacism is not a real Muslim

 

[Coyote]

The claim that Obama did not let in Christian refugees is a lie.

Because, as usual, the situation is more complicated then people understand it to be.

Refugees that were let in came through the UN refugee camps. They weren't selected on the basis of religion, but from among those who were registered as refugees at the camps. Very few Christians registered, for several different reasons. One being they were afraid of persecution or violence from the Muslims and they were hesitant to register because that might open them to increased persecution.. The other being they had options that the Muslims didn't.

This article has a reasonable explanation:
Trump’s claim that it is ‘very tough’ for Christian Syrians to get to the United States

First - actual numbers from two biggest sources of refugees lately, who register with the UN:
Syrian Refugees (where Christians make up less then 1% of the refugees, but 5% of the population)

Muslim Sunni: 15,134
Muslim Shiite: 29
Christian: 125*
Total: 15,479​

But then look at Iraqi refugees (where Christians are less than 1% of the overall population but 15% of the refugees)

Muslim Sunni: 5,106
Muslim Shiite: 3,342
Christian: 1,502*
Total: 9,950​

So did the Obama Administration deliberately select Muslims over Christians? If so, then why didn't they with Iraq? So that argument is bogus, but clearly something is going on with Syrian Christians.

According to the article:

The simple fact is that the reason for the disparity is unclear, though there are a number of theories. Nina Shea, who heads the Center for Religious Freedom at the Hudson Institute, says that Syrian Christians are “marginalized” in U.N. programs, especially in refugee camps. She says that many Christians are afraid to settle in camps because the camps are dominated by Muslims.


UNHCR data shows that only about 10 percent of refugees — 490,000 — are in camps, whereas nearly 4.4 million refugees are in urban and rural areas.


But Shea said that she has met with many Syrian Christian refugees who are “clamoring” to get out but can’t get processed.


“I don’t know how to explain this,” she said. “It raises a red flag of de facto discrimination.”​

However, the article also points out that Syria is unlike Iraq in that Christians have opportunities other groups don't for safe haven:

Chris Boian, a UNHCR spokesman, that the agency did not know why there was such a disparity between the Christian makeup of Iraqi and Syrian refugees arriving in the United States, except that the agency does not discriminate. “We believe part of it is that Syria is not Iraq,” he said. “Many Syrian refugees may have the financial and social means to move without going through UNHCR.”


For instance, Lebanon has a relatively large Christian population and has historically been linked to Syria.


In October 2015, Shea directly asked then-U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees António Guterres — now U.N. secretary general — during an appearance at the National Press Club about the dearth of Christian refugees from Syria. He responded by noting that the percentages were higher for Iraq, in part because he believed the experience for Christians was far worse in Iraq. He also noted that most of the Syria Christians had fled to Lebanon because of the long-standing links between the two countries....
​

...But Michael J.L. La Civita, communications director of the Catholic Near East Welfare Association, said there was a significant difference between the Syrian and Iraqi refugees.


He said many Syrian Christians have fled to regime-held areas, such as Damascus and the Valley of the Christians, hunkering down to remain near their properties and businesses; he said they generally support the Syrian regime. Most Christians who have left Syria have not registered with U.N, agencies, which is a necessary step to be considered a refugee. By contrast, he said, “more Iraqis have registered once they travel to Jordan so as to join families in the West.”


About half of the Syrian Christians have fled, he said, and “the vast majority chose Lebanon, as the churches there have a strong social service system, and proximity and a shared culture and history.”​

And that is why the situation is complicated. Assad ruled through a divide and conquer strategy that kept certain minorities tied to him out of fear of what could happen to them at the hands of other groups and he played them off against each other. Christians sided with Assad, and are considered part of the pro-Assad side of the conflict. Unlike the Muslim refugees who opposed Assad, the Christians can find refuge in Assad-controlled territory and many have. Syria and Iraq between them have been the cradle for many religions and have a rich and ancient religious diversity that is sadly being destroyed by ISIS and Civil War. That is the real human tragedy. And if you can only take so many refugees...how do you choose? On the basis of religion? Need? What? There are Muslim sects just as persecuted by these animals as Christians. There are shell shocked families and children who've known nothing but bombs and war. To create further religious divisions is a sad thing.

When I was looking for pictures of Syrian refugees I came across this family, entering Canada. It's very compelling. The older woman, wrapped in this colorful blanket looks shell shocked, barely alive. A girl who might be her daughter has one arm around her, the other, holding her blanket closed protectively. An extremely thin young man, also looking stunned and exhausted, with his arm around her also, and the other around a little boy. This is a family who has lost everything. What have they survived to get to this point? What difference does it make what their religion is?

 

[Syriusly]

The claim that Obama did not let in Christian refugees is a lie.

Because, as usual, the situation is more complicated then people understand it to be.

Refugees that were let in came through the UN refugee camps. They weren't selected on the basis of religion, but from among those who were registered as refugees at the camps. Very few Christians registered, for several different reasons. One being they were afraid of persecution or violence from the Muslims and they were hesitant to register because that might open them to increased persecution.. The other being they had options that the Muslims didn't.

This article has a reasonable explanation:
Trump’s claim that it is ‘very tough’ for Christian Syrians to get to the United States

First - actual numbers from two biggest sources of refugees lately, who register with the UN:
Syrian Refugees (where Christians make up less then 1% of the refugees, but 5% of the population)

Muslim Sunni: 15,134
Muslim Shiite: 29
Christian: 125*
Total: 15,479​

But then look at Iraqi refugees (where Christians are less than 1% of the overall population but 15% of the refugees)

Muslim Sunni: 5,106
Muslim Shiite: 3,342
Christian: 1,502*
Total: 9,950​

So did the Obama Administration deliberately select Muslims over Christians? If so, then why didn't they with Iraq? So that argument is bogus, but clearly something is going on with Syrian Christians.

According to the article:

The simple fact is that the reason for the disparity is unclear, though there are a number of theories. Nina Shea, who heads the Center for Religious Freedom at the Hudson Institute, says that Syrian Christians are “marginalized” in U.N. programs, especially in refugee camps. She says that many Christians are afraid to settle in camps because the camps are dominated by Muslims.


UNHCR data shows that only about 10 percent of refugees — 490,000 — are in camps, whereas nearly 4.4 million refugees are in urban and rural areas.


But Shea said that she has met with many Syrian Christian refugees who are “clamoring” to get out but can’t get processed.


“I don’t know how to explain this,” she said. “It raises a red flag of de facto discrimination.”​

However, the article also points out that Syria is unlike Iraq in that Christians have opportunities other groups don't for safe haven:

Chris Boian, a UNHCR spokesman, that the agency did not know why there was such a disparity between the Christian makeup of Iraqi and Syrian refugees arriving in the United States, except that the agency does not discriminate. “We believe part of it is that Syria is not Iraq,” he said. “Many Syrian refugees may have the financial and social means to move without going through UNHCR.”


For instance, Lebanon has a relatively large Christian population and has historically been linked to Syria.


In October 2015, Shea directly asked then-U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees António Guterres — now U.N. secretary general — during an appearance at the National Press Club about the dearth of Christian refugees from Syria. He responded by noting that the percentages were higher for Iraq, in part because he believed the experience for Christians was far worse in Iraq. He also noted that most of the Syria Christians had fled to Lebanon because of the long-standing links between the two countries....
​

...But Michael J.L. La Civita, communications director of the Catholic Near East Welfare Association, said there was a significant difference between the Syrian and Iraqi refugees.


He said many Syrian Christians have fled to regime-held areas, such as Damascus and the Valley of the Christians, hunkering down to remain near their properties and businesses; he said they generally support the Syrian regime. Most Christians who have left Syria have not registered with U.N, agencies, which is a necessary step to be considered a refugee. By contrast, he said, “more Iraqis have registered once they travel to Jordan so as to join families in the West.”


About half of the Syrian Christians have fled, he said, and “the vast majority chose Lebanon, as the churches there have a strong social service system, and proximity and a shared culture and history.”​

And that is why the situation is complicated. Assad ruled through a divide and conquer strategy that kept certain minorities tied to him out of fear of what could happen to them at the hands of other groups and he played them off against each other. Christians sided with Assad, and are considered part of the pro-Assad side of the conflict. Unlike the Muslim refugees who opposed Assad, the Christians can find refuge in Assad-controlled territory and many have. Syria and Iraq between them have been the cradle for many religions and have a rich and ancient religious diversity that is sadly being destroyed by ISIS and Civil War. That is the real human tragedy. And if you can only take so many refugees...how do you choose? On the basis of religion? Need? What? There are Muslim sects just as persecuted by these animals as Christians. There are shell shocked families and children who've known nothing but bombs and war. To create further religious divisions is a sad thing.

When I was looking for pictures of Syrian refugees I came across this family, entering Canada. It's very compelling. The older woman, wrapped in this colorful blanket looks shell shocked, barely alive. A girl who might be her daughter has one arm around her, the other, holding her blanket closed protectively. An extremely thin young man, also looking stunned and exhausted, with his arm around her also, and the other around a little boy. This is a family who has lost everything. What have they survived to get to this point? What difference does it make what their religion is?

Well if they are Christians, Trump executive order would give them a special exemption.

I guess it isn't really a Muslim ban if the order says that everyone is banned- except non-Muslims.

 

[Coyote]

The claim that Obama did not let in Christian refugees is a lie.

Because, as usual, the situation is more complicated then people understand it to be.

Refugees that were let in came through the UN refugee camps. They weren't selected on the basis of religion, but from among those who were registered as refugees at the camps. Very few Christians registered, for several different reasons. One being they were afraid of persecution or violence from the Muslims and they were hesitant to register because that might open them to increased persecution.. The other being they had options that the Muslims didn't.

This article has a reasonable explanation:
Trump’s claim that it is ‘very tough’ for Christian Syrians to get to the United States

First - actual numbers from two biggest sources of refugees lately, who register with the UN:
Syrian Refugees (where Christians make up less then 1% of the refugees, but 5% of the population)

Muslim Sunni: 15,134
Muslim Shiite: 29
Christian: 125*
Total: 15,479​

But then look at Iraqi refugees (where Christians are less than 1% of the overall population but 15% of the refugees)

Muslim Sunni: 5,106
Muslim Shiite: 3,342
Christian: 1,502*
Total: 9,950​

So did the Obama Administration deliberately select Muslims over Christians? If so, then why didn't they with Iraq? So that argument is bogus, but clearly something is going on with Syrian Christians.

According to the article:

The simple fact is that the reason for the disparity is unclear, though there are a number of theories. Nina Shea, who heads the Center for Religious Freedom at the Hudson Institute, says that Syrian Christians are “marginalized” in U.N. programs, especially in refugee camps. She says that many Christians are afraid to settle in camps because the camps are dominated by Muslims.


UNHCR data shows that only about 10 percent of refugees — 490,000 — are in camps, whereas nearly 4.4 million refugees are in urban and rural areas.


But Shea said that she has met with many Syrian Christian refugees who are “clamoring” to get out but can’t get processed.


“I don’t know how to explain this,” she said. “It raises a red flag of de facto discrimination.”​

However, the article also points out that Syria is unlike Iraq in that Christians have opportunities other groups don't for safe haven:

Chris Boian, a UNHCR spokesman, that the agency did not know why there was such a disparity between the Christian makeup of Iraqi and Syrian refugees arriving in the United States, except that the agency does not discriminate. “We believe part of it is that Syria is not Iraq,” he said. “Many Syrian refugees may have the financial and social means to move without going through UNHCR.”


For instance, Lebanon has a relatively large Christian population and has historically been linked to Syria.


In October 2015, Shea directly asked then-U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees António Guterres — now U.N. secretary general — during an appearance at the National Press Club about the dearth of Christian refugees from Syria. He responded by noting that the percentages were higher for Iraq, in part because he believed the experience for Christians was far worse in Iraq. He also noted that most of the Syria Christians had fled to Lebanon because of the long-standing links between the two countries....
​

...But Michael J.L. La Civita, communications director of the Catholic Near East Welfare Association, said there was a significant difference between the Syrian and Iraqi refugees.


He said many Syrian Christians have fled to regime-held areas, such as Damascus and the Valley of the Christians, hunkering down to remain near their properties and businesses; he said they generally support the Syrian regime. Most Christians who have left Syria have not registered with U.N, agencies, which is a necessary step to be considered a refugee. By contrast, he said, “more Iraqis have registered once they travel to Jordan so as to join families in the West.”


About half of the Syrian Christians have fled, he said, and “the vast majority chose Lebanon, as the churches there have a strong social service system, and proximity and a shared culture and history.”​

And that is why the situation is complicated. Assad ruled through a divide and conquer strategy that kept certain minorities tied to him out of fear of what could happen to them at the hands of other groups and he played them off against each other. Christians sided with Assad, and are considered part of the pro-Assad side of the conflict. Unlike the Muslim refugees who opposed Assad, the Christians can find refuge in Assad-controlled territory and many have. Syria and Iraq between them have been the cradle for many religions and have a rich and ancient religious diversity that is sadly being destroyed by ISIS and Civil War. That is the real human tragedy. And if you can only take so many refugees...how do you choose? On the basis of religion? Need? What? There are Muslim sects just as persecuted by these animals as Christians. There are shell shocked families and children who've known nothing but bombs and war. To create further religious divisions is a sad thing.

When I was looking for pictures of Syrian refugees I came across this family, entering Canada. It's very compelling. The older woman, wrapped in this colorful blanket looks shell shocked, barely alive. A girl who might be her daughter has one arm around her, the other, holding her blanket closed protectively. An extremely thin young man, also looking stunned and exhausted, with his arm around her also, and the other around a little boy. This is a family who has lost everything. What have they survived to get to this point? What difference does it make what their religion is?

Well if they are Christians, Trump executive order would give them a special exemption.

I guess it isn't really a Muslim ban if the order says that everyone is banned- except non-Muslims.

Trump wanted a Muslim ban, Guilliani came up with this - the closest legal way he could do it.

 

[Tilly]

I don't think a temporary moratorium on less than 20% of the worlds muslims constitutes a muslim ban

 

[Syriusly]

I don't think a temporary moratorium on less than 20% of the worlds muslims is a muslim ban

Yep- its a ban on people from several Muslim countries- unless the persons say that they are not Muslim.

 

[Syriusly]

I think we should do everything necessary to keep out those who do not share American values and support the constitution.

She thinks the inscription on the Statue of Liberty says "Give us your Jihadists, your rapists, your teeming masses yearning to enslave".

Doggie's jihadist

and rapist.

An Iranian baby girl denied entry to the U.S. for lifesaving surgery under President Donald Trump’s travel ban has arrived in America for treatment.


Fatemeh Reshad was admitted at Oregon Health & Science University’s Doernbecher Children’s Hospital in Portland on Tuesday, doctors confirmed.


Her arrival ended a terrifying ordeal for the 4-month-old child’s family, after authorities had told them they’d have to wait 90 days to apply for a U.S. Visa.


Each passing day narrowed Fatemeh’s chance at survival because she has a heart defect called transposition of the great arteries, or TGA, doctors said.

 

[Tuatara]

Countries the U.S. should not emulate: Syria, Iran, Iraq, Yemen, Libya, Algeria, Bangladesh, Brunei, Kuwait, Lebanon, Malaysia, Oman, Pakistan, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates.

We aren't throwing gays off rooftops, stoning rape victims, hanging people from cranes, planting IEDs in our roads. We wont be importing it either. All is well

But you've certainly bombed the hell out of some of those countries causing way more deaths than the terrorists could ever dream of.

Did we invite potentially belligerent Germans to live with us when we'd 'bombed the hell out of them? No. Why do you think it might be a good idea not to invite people into our countries after we've bombed the hell out of them?

Yes, America did allow Germans into their country after the war. But it was a different kind of war. A war where both sides had a chance to win.

Well Europe didn't allow entry of Germans en masse whilst we were at war with them. I doubt the US did either. And it's absurd to be doing so now.

I'm sorry, I didn't get the memo that the US was at war with Muslims. I know it may look like it by the rhetoric from Trump and his chumps but I haven't seen that war has been declared on Muslims.

 

[Tuatara]

I love all this divert and deflect from you Lefties and Progs.

When the OP is blatently false what do you expect?

Out of curiousity, do you think we should be following the examples of more restrictive nations?

I think we should do everything necessary to keep out those who do not share American values and support the constitution.

Apparently longknife believes that 'American values' include posting lies.

And that we should not let Canadians visit the United States.

I know many Canadians that cancelled their plans to the US when Trump was elected. We were going to go down at Christmas but decided not to.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

I know many Canadians that cancelled their plans to the US when Trump was elected. We were going to go down at Christmas but decided not to.

Oh NO! What will we ever do?! Another liberal Canadian isn't visiting us!

 

[Carl in Michigan]

I'm sorry, I didn't get the memo that the US was at war with Muslims. I know it may look like it by the rhetoric from Trump and his chumps but I haven't seen that war has been declared on Muslims.

Apparently you didn't get the memo that Muslims have declared war on the West.

 

[Coyote]

I'm sorry, I didn't get the memo that the US was at war with Muslims. I know it may look like it by the rhetoric from Trump and his chumps but I haven't seen that war has been declared on Muslims.

Apparently you didn't get the memo that Muslims have declared war on the West.

Of course he didn't. That memo never made it out of the insane asylum.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

You can find the memo in the writings of MudHamMud, and all his spokesmen since the 7th century