Hey GORE.. how will seas rise if global cooling is occurring???

[healthmyths]

A cold Arctic summer has led to a record increase in the ice cap, leading experts to predict a period of global cooling.

There has been a 60 per cent increase in the amount of ocean covered with ice compared to this time last year, they equivalent of almost a million square miles.
In a rebound from 2012's record low an unbroken ice sheet more than half the size of Europe already stretches from the Canadian islands to Russia's northern shores, days before the annual re-freeze is even set to begin.
The Northwest Passage from the Atlantic to the Pacific has remained blocked by pack-ice all year, forcing some ships to change their routes.
A leaked report to the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) seen by the Mail on Sunday, has led some scientists to claim that the world is heading for a period of cooling that will not end until the middle of this century.
If correct, it would contradict computer forecasts of imminent catastrophic warming. The news comes several years after it was predicted that the arctic would be ice-free by 2013.
Global warming? No, actually we're cooling, claim scientists - Telegraph

 

[LoneLaugher]

Thank you so much for posting that. It is great news! The earth is cooling! Hallelujah!

 

[healthmyths]

Thank you so much for posting that. It is great news! The earth is cooling! Hallelujah!

Right.......!
I don't know about that but ONE thing I know for sure is this:

If 12.5% of the land mass was NEVER included in the temperature reading stations for the last 60 years... WHY would the AVERAGE global temperature readings NOT be
affected?
Just this minor detail along with the FACT that many of the reading stations were located in urban areas KNOWN for generating greater heat then forests or grass lands and those readings WERE used... just makes you want to say..hhmmmmmm...!

 

[healthmyths]

OH and another obviously little known FACT that totally destroys some global warming evangelists!

The USA can absorb more CO2 then the USA produces!

"The U.S. landscape acts as a net carbon sink—it sequesters more carbon than it emits.
Two types of analyses confirm this:
1) atmospheric, or top-down, methods that look at changes in CO2 concentrations; and
2) land-based, or bottom-up, methods that incorporate on-the-ground inventories or plot measurements.
Net sequestration (i.e., the difference between carbon gains and losses) in U.S. forests, urban trees and agricultural soils totaled almost 840 teragrams (Tg) of CO2 equivalent (or about 230 Tg or million metric tons of carbon equivalent) in 2001 (Inventory of U.S. Greenhouse Gas Emissions and Sinks).
This offsets approximately 15% of total U.S. CO2 emissions from the energy, transportation and other sectors. Net carbon sequestration in the forest sector in 2005 offset 10% of U.S. CO2 emissions. In the near future, we project that U.S. forests will continue to sequester carbon at a rate similar to that in recent years. Based on a comparison of our estimates to a compilation of land-based estimates of non-forest carbon
sinks from the literature, we estimate that the conterminous U.S. annually sequesters 149–330 Tg C year1. Forests, urban trees, and wood
products are responsible for 65–91% of this sink.

http://www.ncrs.fs.fed.us/pubs/jrnl/2007/nrs_2007_woodbury_001.pdf

 

[LoneLaugher]

Wow! You sure do know a lot about this subject! Impressive.

 

[healthmyths]

Wow! You sure do know a lot about this subject! Impressive.

I use the Internet and common sense... evidently something many people don't know how or have!

 

[Intense]

Moved to Environment.

 

[Abraham3]

I wonder if administrator Intense, given their avatar, was expecting some sort of feeding frenzy?

 

[Hoffstra]

have average annual temps gone below the 10 hottest years in recorded history?

of course not.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Wow! You sure do know a lot about this subject! Impressive.

I use the Internet and common sense... evidently something many people don't know how or have!

If you scoured the internet and found a piece of information that you liked then it must be right! Great work!

 

[Abraham3]

HealthMyth,

see Balmaseda, Trenberth and Kallen 2013
http://www.cgd.ucar.edu/cas/Trenber...s-moved/Balmaseda_Trenberth_Kallen_grl_13.pdf

 

[edthecynic]

A cold Arctic summer has led to a record increase in the ice cap, leading experts to predict a period of global cooling.

There has been a 60 per cent increase in the amount of ocean covered with ice compared to this time last year, they equivalent of almost a million square miles.
In a rebound from 2012's record low an unbroken ice sheet more than half the size of Europe already stretches from the Canadian islands to Russia's northern shores, days before the annual re-freeze is even set to begin.
The Northwest Passage from the Atlantic to the Pacific has remained blocked by pack-ice all year, forcing some ships to change their routes.
A leaked report to the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) seen by the Mail on Sunday, has led some scientists to claim that the world is heading for a period of cooling that will not end until the middle of this century.
If correct, it would contradict computer forecasts of imminent catastrophic warming. The news comes several years after it was predicted that the arctic would be ice-free by 2013.
Global warming? No, actually we're cooling, claim scientists - Telegraph

I love it, 12 of the 14 warmest years have come since the trun of the century and the idiots call that "cooling!"

There hasn't been any global cooling for 100 years. We've had warming trends followed by flat trends followed by new warming picking up where the previous warming trend left off. The most you could claim is we are flat again, but the natural cooling trends seem to have disappeared from the normal warm/cool/warm/cool cycle, we now have warm/flat/warm/flat as the new normal.

We should expect another warming trend to start after this flat period passes picking up right where the old warming trend left off.

 

[flacaltenn]

Yeah -- there's some great news for those interested in watching ice melt..

You will STILL be able to watch the ice melt for another season..
But this idea of mangling statistics by looking at the "rebound" from the large melt in 2012, is no diff than ObamaBots claiming that the Dear Leader has virtually doubled the stock market since he took office..

Not hard to see a BIG number following a transient depression...

 

[healthmyths]

Wow! You sure do know a lot about this subject! Impressive.

I use the Internet and common sense... evidently something many people don't know how or have!

If you scoured the internet and found a piece of information that you liked then it must be right! Great work!

I "scoured" the Internet for contradictions to the MASS MEDIA biased reporting and found these sources.. Tell me they are biased.
12.5% of the Earth's land mass is missing in the temperature readings which by omission has skewed the average temperature higher as only those stations in large population centers were used.

"The number of [Siberian] stations increased from 8 in 1901 to 23 in 1951 and then decreased to 12 from 1989 to present only four stations,
those at Irkutsk, Bratsk, Chita and Kirensk, cover the entire 20th century.

IEA analysts say climatologists use the data of stations located in large populated centers that are influenced by the urban-warming effect
more frequently than the correct data of remote stations…

The scale of global warming was exaggerated due to temperature distortions for Russia accounting for 12.5% of the world’s land mass.

The IEA said it was necessary to recalculate all global-temperature data in order to assess the scale of such exaggeration.

Climategatekeeping: Siberia « Climate Audit

"The U.S. landscape acts as a net carbon sink—it sequesters more carbon than it emits.
Two types of analyses confirm this:
1) atmospheric, or top-down, methods that look at changes in CO2 concentrations; and
2) land-based, or bottom-up, methods that incorporate on-the-ground inventories or plot measurements.
http://www.ncrs.fs.fed.us/pubs/jrnl/2007/nrs_2007_woodbury_001.pdf

Check them out..

 

[Abraham3]

There hasn't been any global cooling for 100 years.

I am quite decidedly a believer in AGW, but we HAVE experienced cooling in numerous short spans and the noteworthy 1941-1979 period.

The way that period and the current hiatus line up with the PDO is interesting. I'm not sure what to buy just yet.

Good to meet you.

 

[Old Rocks]

OH and another obviously little known FACT that totally destroys some global warming evangelists!

The USA can absorb more CO2 then the USA produces!

"The U.S. landscape acts as a net carbon sink—it sequesters more carbon than it emits.
Two types of analyses confirm this:
1) atmospheric, or top-down, methods that look at changes in CO2 concentrations; and
2) land-based, or bottom-up, methods that incorporate on-the-ground inventories or plot measurements.
Net sequestration (i.e., the difference between carbon gains and losses) in U.S. forests, urban trees and agricultural soils totaled almost 840 teragrams (Tg) of CO2 equivalent (or about 230 Tg or million metric tons of carbon equivalent) in 2001 (Inventory of U.S. Greenhouse Gas Emissions and Sinks).
This offsets approximately 15% of total U.S. CO2 emissions from the energy, transportation and other sectors. Net carbon sequestration in the forest sector in 2005 offset 10% of U.S. CO2 emissions. In the near future, we project that U.S. forests will continue to sequester carbon at a rate similar to that in recent years. Based on a comparison of our estimates to a compilation of land-based estimates of non-forest carbon
sinks from the literature, we estimate that the conterminous U.S. annually sequesters 149–330 Tg C year1. Forests, urban trees, and wood
products are responsible for 65–91% of this sink.

http://www.ncrs.fs.fed.us/pubs/jrnl/2007/nrs_2007_woodbury_001.pdf

I see. Where, then, do you suppose that the rise from 280 ppm to 400 ppm came from? Seems to me that the US and Europe, until the turn of this century were the primary sources of GHGs. Now we are second to China, and India is coming up fast.

The article states that our sequestion rate is 10% of the amount that we produce. Marked in red. Why don't you learn to read?

 

[Old Rocks]

Note that it is the landscape that sequesters more than it emits. But only sequesters 10% of what humans in the US emit.

 

[Hoffstra]

The Earth isn't getting cooler.

 

[Unkotare]

When "Global Warming" started looking shaky, the switch was quickly made to "Climate Change," which of course can mean anything and therefore means nothing. Whew! A whole lotta folks must have seen their grants flash before their eyes until the doublespeak was fixed.

 

[Old Rocks]

A cold Arctic summer has led to a record increase in the ice cap, leading experts to predict a period of global cooling.

There has been a 60 per cent increase in the amount of ocean covered with ice compared to this time last year, they equivalent of almost a million square miles.
In a rebound from 2012's record low an unbroken ice sheet more than half the size of Europe already stretches from the Canadian islands to Russia's northern shores, days before the annual re-freeze is even set to begin.
The Northwest Passage from the Atlantic to the Pacific has remained blocked by pack-ice all year, forcing some ships to change their routes.
A leaked report to the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) seen by the Mail on Sunday, has led some scientists to claim that the world is heading for a period of cooling that will not end until the middle of this century.
If correct, it would contradict computer forecasts of imminent catastrophic warming. The news comes several years after it was predicted that the arctic would be ice-free by 2013.
Global warming? No, actually we're cooling, claim scientists - Telegraph

Now your flap yap is a bit silly. Look at the graph from the University of Washington. You can clearly see that the melt is still actually below what is expected from the graph. 2012 was a very low year. And you can also see that swings of the amount from 2012 to 2013 are the rule, rather than the exception.

http://psc.apl.washington.edu/wordp...olumeAnomalyCurrentV2.png?<?php echo time() ?

I would put much more credibility in the scientists of the University of Washington than the reporters for a newspaper.