homosexual's file suit in Tn

The people who "came up" with that definition voted it into law in my state. Don't like it? Don't live here.
Of course it is a mutation and a choice. Much like pedophilia.

It can't be both a mutation and a choice. Those contradict each other.

Pedophilia is also not a mutation. But you know the difference between pedophilia and homosexuality? Pedophilia actually hurts people, children to be specific.

Are you prepared to argue that homosexuality hurts anyone?

Of course htey do not contradict each other.
One has an inclination, that can be genetic.
One acts on it. That's a choice.
Pretty simple.
How much do the consequences of homo behavior cost us in medical bills every year?

What you are saying then is that their being gay is not a choice its inherent. Their decision to engage in homosexual behavior is as strong as a heterosexuals is to have that type of sex. If thats true what is the problem with it?
 
That would be incorrect.

If gay marriage was to be legalized, heterosexual marriage would not be outlawed in the process. Not in the slightest.

What you're saying is that the homosexuals want to dictate that everyone, heterosexual or homosexual, gets served peach pie instead of the traditional apple pie, but that would be incorrect.

What they're actually going for is so that the heterosexuals that like apple pie can get their apple pie and the homosexuals that like peach pie can get peach pie.

I'm not sure why this is such a difficult concept for the two of you to grasp.
Because it has nothing to do with pie.
Heterosexuals get to dictate what defines marriage because they comprise about 97% of the population. And in TN they comprised over 80% of the votes in favor.
Quit whining about how "ohh it's not faaaiiiiirrr." Fairness has nothing to do with it.

So you think you get to vote on what rights others are allowed to have?

Sure. Otherwise cities would not have ordinances and states would not have state laws. You do not have the right to marry your sister or your dog, or the two year old neighbor. You do not have the right to park your car anywhere you feel like. You do not (as we recently discovered) have the right to walk in a forest when you want to. You do not have the right to live in any home you want. You do not have the right to force others to agree to your demands.
 
"So you think you get to vote on what rights others are allowed to have?"

So you think small minorities have the right to redefine the law to suit themselves?
 
It can't be both a mutation and a choice. Those contradict each other.

Pedophilia is also not a mutation. But you know the difference between pedophilia and homosexuality? Pedophilia actually hurts people, children to be specific.

Are you prepared to argue that homosexuality hurts anyone?

Of course htey do not contradict each other.
One has an inclination, that can be genetic.
One acts on it. That's a choice.
Pretty simple.
How much do the consequences of homo behavior cost us in medical bills every year?


What you are saying then is that their being gay is not a choice its inherent. Their decision to engage in homosexual behavior is as strong as a heterosexuals is to have that type of sex. If thats true what is the problem with it?

None. Right up to the point where they demand that others consider it normal behavior. Child molesters say the same thing, it isn't a choice. It is inherent. It is a sexual orientation and just as valid as any other sexual orientation. They too would like for their sexual orientation to be considered normal.
 
"So you think you get to vote on what rights others are allowed to have?"

So you think small minorities have the right to redefine the law to suit themselves?
Yes if what they are doing is not harming anyone and is between 2 consenting adults.

Then it should stay between two consenting adults and not involve everyone else in their lifestyle choices.
 
Of course htey do not contradict each other.
One has an inclination, that can be genetic.
One acts on it. That's a choice.
Pretty simple.
How much do the consequences of homo behavior cost us in medical bills every year?


What you are saying then is that their being gay is not a choice its inherent. Their decision to engage in homosexual behavior is as strong as a heterosexuals is to have that type of sex. If thats true what is the problem with it?

None. Right up to the point where they demand that others consider it normal behavior. Child molesters say the same thing, it isn't a choice. It is inherent. It is a sexual orientation and just as valid as any other sexual orientation. They too would like for their sexual orientation to be considered normal.

It is normal for them. How are you missing that? Pedo are not having sex with an adult. Thats statutory rape which is the same for heteros and homosexuals alike.
 
"So you think you get to vote on what rights others are allowed to have?"

So you think small minorities have the right to redefine the law to suit themselves?
Yes if what they are doing is not harming anyone and is between 2 consenting adults.

Then it should stay between two consenting adults and not involve everyone else in their lifestyle choices.

I dont recall being forced to become gay because a gay friend of mine married his boyfriend. How is he being gay involving me?
 
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It's not a deflection; it's actually what you're saying.

You're saying that if homosexuals don't like the same pie that you do, they have to move to get their favorite kind of pie.

It's bullshit.
No, I'm saying if homos want the state to recognize their "marriage" then they need to move to a state that will. Much like if people want to carry handguns they ought to move to a state that allows it. Or if people want a state that allows late term abortions, they need to go to such a state.
And quit fucking whining about it.

One does not forfeit his civil liberties merely as a consequence of this state of residence; and the people of a given state do not have the authority to decide who will or who will not have his civil rights, as our rights are inalienable.

The right of citizens to move freely about the country is fundamental, that one is a member of a minority in a given jurisdiction does not justify denying that minority its civil liberties, nor is ‘moving to another state’ a viable or Constitutional ‘solution.’

And again you're assuming that same sex marriage is a civil right- which it isn't.
And again you are trying to claim that states are required to accept other states local laws which simply isn't true.
 
What you are saying then is that their being gay is not a choice its inherent. Their decision to engage in homosexual behavior is as strong as a heterosexuals is to have that type of sex. If thats true what is the problem with it?

None. Right up to the point where they demand that others consider it normal behavior. Child molesters say the same thing, it isn't a choice. It is inherent. It is a sexual orientation and just as valid as any other sexual orientation. They too would like for their sexual orientation to be considered normal.

It is normal for them. How are you missing that? Pedo are not having sex with an adult. Thats statutory rape which is the same for heteros and homosexuals alike.

No it isn't. Doesn't the Kaitlyn Hunt case mean anything to do. A lesbian pedophile isn't the same as a heterosexual pedophile.

Cannibalism was "normal" for Jeffrey Dahmer too.
 
The people who "came up" with that definition voted it into law in my state. Don't like it? Don't live here.
Of course it is a mutation and a choice. Much like pedophilia.

It can't be both a mutation and a choice. Those contradict each other.

Pedophilia is also not a mutation. But you know the difference between pedophilia and homosexuality? Pedophilia actually hurts people, children to be specific.

Are you prepared to argue that homosexuality hurts anyone?

Of course htey do not contradict each other.
One has an inclination, that can be genetic.
One acts on it. That's a choice.
Pretty simple.
How much do the consequences of homo behavior cost us in medical bills every year?

What does that have to do with anything?
"Homo behavior" happens, gay marriage or not; who does gay marriage hurt?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/03/your-money/03money.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Or do you just not want gays to have the same benefits you do?
 
None. Right up to the point where they demand that others consider it normal behavior. Child molesters say the same thing, it isn't a choice. It is inherent. It is a sexual orientation and just as valid as any other sexual orientation. They too would like for their sexual orientation to be considered normal.

It is normal for them. How are you missing that? Pedo are not having sex with an adult. Thats statutory rape which is the same for heteros and homosexuals alike.

No it isn't. Doesn't the Kaitlyn Hunt case mean anything to do. A lesbian pedophile isn't the same as a heterosexual pedophile.

Cannibalism was "normal" for Jeffrey Dahmer too.

Why do you think its not the same other than the people involved? Cannibalism requires you take away someones right to live.
 
Because it has nothing to do with pie.
Heterosexuals get to dictate what defines marriage because they comprise about 97% of the population. And in TN they comprised over 80% of the votes in favor.
Quit whining about how "ohh it's not faaaiiiiirrr." Fairness has nothing to do with it.

So you think you get to vote on what rights others are allowed to have?

Sure. Otherwise cities would not have ordinances and states would not have state laws. You do not have the right to marry your sister or your dog, or the two year old neighbor. You do not have the right to park your car anywhere you feel like. You do not (as we recently discovered) have the right to walk in a forest when you want to. You do not have the right to live in any home you want. You do not have the right to force others to agree to your demands.

Well, you are close (not really)
You can say someone does not have a right to park somewhere or walk somewhere......but you can't say blacks cannot park or walk here. We settled that fifty years ago

Nobody has a right to marry their sister or their dog. That is equal protection

You do not have a right to vote.....I can marry the person I love, you cant
 
"So you think you get to vote on what rights others are allowed to have?"

So you think small minorities have the right to redefine the law to suit themselves?

Yes I do

Blacks were 12% of our population and they had a right to demand that they could vote, walk where they want and eat and sleep anywhere that whites could

Isnt our Constitution great?
 
No, I'm saying if homos want the state to recognize their "marriage" then they need to move to a state that will. Much like if people want to carry handguns they ought to move to a state that allows it. Or if people want a state that allows late term abortions, they need to go to such a state.
And quit fucking whining about it.

One does not forfeit his civil liberties merely as a consequence of this state of residence; and the people of a given state do not have the authority to decide who will or who will not have his civil rights, as our rights are inalienable.

The right of citizens to move freely about the country is fundamental, that one is a member of a minority in a given jurisdiction does not justify denying that minority its civil liberties, nor is ‘moving to another state’ a viable or Constitutional ‘solution.’

No one's civil liberties are forfeited. There is no civil liberty case here. That argument has already been refuted.

Nonsense.

This is indeed very much a civil liberties issue: the state of Tennessee is refusing to afford married persons the privileges and immunities of State law based solely on their sexual orientation, absent a legitimate legislative end and devoid of any factual, objective evidence in support, in clear violation of the 14th Amendment.
 
"So you think you get to vote on what rights others are allowed to have?"

So you think small minorities have the right to redefine the law to suit themselves?
Yes if what they are doing is not harming anyone and is between 2 consenting adults.

Then it should stay between two consenting adults and not involve everyone else in their lifestyle choices.
I don't see where they are involving you. It is you who are demanding that the government acknowledge your hatred of gays
 

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