How come Lincoln got away with shutting down hundreds of newspapers and jailed journalists

[otto105]

There you go again, accusing me of supporting slavery. We can always count on you to go for the low blow because that's just the kind of buy you are. How many times do you have to be told that Lincoln didn't invade Virginia to get rid of slavery? Lincoln even proposed an amendment to enshrine slavery into the Constitution.

Allow me to quote your hero:

"I have no purpose directly or indirectly to interfere with the institution of slavery in the states where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so."

"Our republican system was meant for a homogeneous people. As long as blacks continue to live with the whites they constitute a threat to the national life. Family life may also collapse and the increase of mixed breed bastards may some day challenge the supremacy of the white man."
​

That's who you worship, douchebag.

You're such a lying piece of shit...that quote--the 2nd one--- was by James Mitchell in a letter he wrote TO A. Lincoln

Read and learn--and stay off of racist sites that lie to you!

Letter on the relation of the white and African races in the United States, showing the necessity of the colonization of the latter : Mitchell, James, 1818-1903 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

I searched the contents, and that quote wasn't found. It really doesn't matter because there are plenty of quotes that show Lincoln was a white supremecist.

Abraham Lincoln quarterly. [Vol. 6, no. 3]

You're a liar and a fat-mouth....and not even man enough to admit it....It DOES matter...because it shows you have no credibility at all in a historical debate...all you got is cut and paste from some lame racist sites.

Calling Lincoln's critics "racists" is par for the course for the typical Lincoln cult member. It's painful when your delusions are exposed for what they are.

You mean YOUR delusions... https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-lincoln-racism-equality-oppose/

 

[bripat9643]

By the way- about Lincoln

Finest Republican President we have ever had.

And I believe the only Republican President to lead the United States to a victory in a serious war.

Your idea of "the finest" is a white supremecist tyrant mass murderering dictator.

 

[bripat9643]

You're such a lying piece of shit...that quote--the 2nd one--- was by James Mitchell in a letter he wrote TO A. Lincoln

Read and learn--and stay off of racist sites that lie to you!

Letter on the relation of the white and African races in the United States, showing the necessity of the colonization of the latter : Mitchell, James, 1818-1903 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

I searched the contents, and that quote wasn't found. It really doesn't matter because there are plenty of quotes that show Lincoln was a white supremecist.

Abraham Lincoln quarterly. [Vol. 6, no. 3]

You're a liar and a fat-mouth....and not even man enough to admit it....It DOES matter...because it shows you have no credibility at all in a historical debate...all you got is cut and paste from some lame racist sites.

Calling Lincoln's critics "racists" is par for the course for the typical Lincoln cult member. It's painful when your delusions are exposed for what they are.

You mean YOUR delusions... https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-lincoln-racism-equality-oppose/

From your source:

"The quote as presented by Patterson, and in several Facebook and Twitter posts, is authentic"

That's all that needs to be said.

 

[otto105]

I searched the contents, and that quote wasn't found. It really doesn't matter because there are plenty of quotes that show Lincoln was a white supremecist.

Abraham Lincoln quarterly. [Vol. 6, no. 3]

You're a liar and a fat-mouth....and not even man enough to admit it....It DOES matter...because it shows you have no credibility at all in a historical debate...all you got is cut and paste from some lame racist sites.

Calling Lincoln's critics "racists" is par for the course for the typical Lincoln cult member. It's painful when your delusions are exposed for what they are.

You mean YOUR delusions... https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-lincoln-racism-equality-oppose/

From your source:

"The quote as presented by Patterson, and in several Facebook and Twitter posts, is authentic"

That's all that needs to be said.

Sure, if we are just a simpleton like you, but most of us in here aren't.

More Excerpts:

During the Civil War, Foner says, Lincoln’s views evolved radically as he was exposed to black people such as Frederick Douglass, who were far more talented than he had assumed, and as the efforts of freed slaves in the Union army earned them, in Lincoln’s view, the right to citizenship.

Just before his death, Lincoln gave a speech in which he mentioned the possibility of giving black Union soldiers and wealthy black elites the right to vote, in direct contradiction to his 1858 remarks. And yet, Foner told us, for a long time Lincoln’s plan for black people in the United States largely consisted of arranging for them to the leave the country and set up colonies elsewhere.

Foner also warned against overemphasizing the importance of ethnicity to Lincoln by isolating specific racist remarks he made:

The fact is, Lincoln said almost nothing about race. He was not that interested in race…Race was not a major intellectual construct for Lincoln…And the 1858 speech was purely defensive. That doesn’t excuse it, but he was being attacked in those debates as believing in negro equality.

“Whereas abolition was a central aspect of Lincoln’s moral compass”, the Harvard historian Henry Louis Gates wrote in 2009, “racial equality was not”:

…Lincoln despised slavery as an institution, an economic institution that discriminated against white men who couldn’t afford to own slaves and, thus, could not profit from the advantage in the marketplace that slaves provided. At the same time, however, he was deeply ambivalent about the status of black people vis-à-vis white people, having fundamental doubts about their innate intelligence and their capacity to fight nobly with guns against white men in the initial years of the Civil War.

Gates concluded:

[Lincoln] certainly embraced anti-black attitudes and phobias in his early years and throughout his debates with Douglas in the 1858 Senate race… By the end of the Civil War, Lincoln was on an upward arc, perhaps heading toward becoming the man he has since been mythologized as being: the Great Emancipator, the man who freed — and loved — the slaves. But his journey was certainly not complete on the day that he died. Abraham Lincoln wrestled with race until the end.

 

[bripat9643]

Abraham Lincoln quarterly. [Vol. 6, no. 3]

You're a liar and a fat-mouth....and not even man enough to admit it....It DOES matter...because it shows you have no credibility at all in a historical debate...all you got is cut and paste from some lame racist sites.

Calling Lincoln's critics "racists" is par for the course for the typical Lincoln cult member. It's painful when your delusions are exposed for what they are.

You mean YOUR delusions... https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-lincoln-racism-equality-oppose/

From your source:

"The quote as presented by Patterson, and in several Facebook and Twitter posts, is authentic"

That's all that needs to be said.

Sure, if we are just a simpleton like you, but most of us in here aren't.

More Excerpts:

During the Civil War, Foner says, Lincoln’s views evolved radically as he was exposed to black people such as Frederick Douglass, who were far more talented than he had assumed, and as the efforts of freed slaves in the Union army earned them, in Lincoln’s view, the right to citizenship.

Just before his death, Lincoln gave a speech in which he mentioned the possibility of giving black Union soldiers and wealthy black elites the right to vote, in direct contradiction to his 1858 remarks. And yet, Foner told us, for a long time Lincoln’s plan for black people in the United States largely consisted of arranging for them to the leave the country and set up colonies elsewhere.

Foner also warned against overemphasizing the importance of ethnicity to Lincoln by isolating specific racist remarks he made:

The fact is, Lincoln said almost nothing about race. He was not that interested in race…Race was not a major intellectual construct for Lincoln…And the 1858 speech was purely defensive. That doesn’t excuse it, but he was being attacked in those debates as believing in negro equality.

“Whereas abolition was a central aspect of Lincoln’s moral compass”, the Harvard historian Henry Louis Gates wrote in 2009, “racial equality was not”:

…Lincoln despised slavery as an institution, an economic institution that discriminated against white men who couldn’t afford to own slaves and, thus, could not profit from the advantage in the marketplace that slaves provided. At the same time, however, he was deeply ambivalent about the status of black people vis-à-vis white people, having fundamental doubts about their innate intelligence and their capacity to fight nobly with guns against white men in the initial years of the Civil War.

Gates concluded:

[Lincoln] certainly embraced anti-black attitudes and phobias in his early years and throughout his debates with Douglas in the 1858 Senate race… By the end of the Civil War, Lincoln was on an upward arc, perhaps heading toward becoming the man he has since been mythologized as being: the Great Emancipator, the man who freed — and loved — the slaves. But his journey was certainly not complete on the day that he died. Abraham Lincoln wrestled with race until the end.

Foner is a lying communist asshole.

Another Big Lincoln Lie Exposed - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com​

After the Emancipation Proclamation (which only "freed" slaves where the government could not do so — in "rebel territory") was issued, Lincoln was hard at work on his various colonization projects. Magness and Page cite British Foreign Minister Lord Lyons as saying in a dispatch to London that "The President of the United States sent for me yesterday, and upon my presenting myself, told me that he had been for some time anxious to speak to me in an informal and unofficial manner on the subject of promoting the emigration of colored people from this country to British colonies" (p. 26).

Shortly thereafter, Lincoln met with one Thomas Malcom of the Pennsylvania Colonization Society to discuss deporting Pennsylvania blacks to Liberia; and sent an emissary to visit the "contraband camps" (where captured Southern slaves were kept) to find "recruits" for colonization to Honduras.​

The most pro-colonization member of Lincoln's cabinet, Postmaster General Montgomery Blair, publicly announced that the "destined glory" of any freed slaves "is to be consummated in the American tropics" (p. 35). Interestingly, the first black man to ever hold an administrative position in the U.S. government was J. Willis Menard, who favored black colonization. He was employed as a clerk in the colonization office.

Magness and Page document that colonization remained the official policy of the Lincoln administration throughout 1864 and early 1865, with several plans being foiled by bureaucratic bungling, corruption, and political bickering. Lincoln is said to have completely lost his temper over such failures.

Late in his life General Benjamin Butler recalled a "colonization interview" that he had with Lincoln two days before the assassination. "What shall we do with the negroes after they are free?", Lincoln is said to have asked the general. According to Butler, Lincoln then said, "I can hardly believe that the South and North can live in peace, unless we can get rid of the negroes" (p. 109). Butler then proposed deporting the freed slaves to Panama to dig a canal, decades before the actual Panama Canal was dug. "There is meat in that, General Butler, there is meat in that," Lincoln reportedly said.

Early Lincoln scholars accepted that this meeting occurred, but then Lincoln cultist/excuse fabricator Mark E. Neely claimed that the meeting could not have happened because Butler was not in Washington on the day he said the meeting took place. Magness and Page disprove Neely's conjecture and conclude that "the meeting itself indisputedly happened."

Colonization after Emancipation proves unequivocally that "colonization remained on the table well beyond the Emancipation Proclamation," contrary to the "accepted wisdom" of James McPherson and other Lincoln cultists. Magness and Page conclude that "The prospect that the u2018Great Emancipator' subscribed to colonizationist beliefs, particularly at the end of his life, seems to completely dispel his popular reputation as a racial egalitarian." Yes, it does.​

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

From the history channel:

5 Things You May Not Know About Lincoln, Slavery and Emancipation

Lincoln was a swell guy, wasn't he? Boy, what a great advocate for racial equality.

 

[bripat9643]

From the history channel:

5 Things You May Not Know About Lincoln, Slavery and Emancipation

Lincoln was a swell guy, wasn't he? Boy, what a great advocate for racial equality.

You would think these idiots would give up while they're still behind. This is like shooting fish in a barrel.

 

[otto105]

You're a liar and a fat-mouth....and not even man enough to admit it....It DOES matter...because it shows you have no credibility at all in a historical debate...all you got is cut and paste from some lame racist sites.

Calling Lincoln's critics "racists" is par for the course for the typical Lincoln cult member. It's painful when your delusions are exposed for what they are.

You mean YOUR delusions... https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-lincoln-racism-equality-oppose/

From your source:

"The quote as presented by Patterson, and in several Facebook and Twitter posts, is authentic"

That's all that needs to be said.

Sure, if we are just a simpleton like you, but most of us in here aren't.

More Excerpts:

During the Civil War, Foner says, Lincoln’s views evolved radically as he was exposed to black people such as Frederick Douglass, who were far more talented than he had assumed, and as the efforts of freed slaves in the Union army earned them, in Lincoln’s view, the right to citizenship.

Just before his death, Lincoln gave a speech in which he mentioned the possibility of giving black Union soldiers and wealthy black elites the right to vote, in direct contradiction to his 1858 remarks. And yet, Foner told us, for a long time Lincoln’s plan for black people in the United States largely consisted of arranging for them to the leave the country and set up colonies elsewhere.

Foner also warned against overemphasizing the importance of ethnicity to Lincoln by isolating specific racist remarks he made:

The fact is, Lincoln said almost nothing about race. He was not that interested in race…Race was not a major intellectual construct for Lincoln…And the 1858 speech was purely defensive. That doesn’t excuse it, but he was being attacked in those debates as believing in negro equality.

“Whereas abolition was a central aspect of Lincoln’s moral compass”, the Harvard historian Henry Louis Gates wrote in 2009, “racial equality was not”:

…Lincoln despised slavery as an institution, an economic institution that discriminated against white men who couldn’t afford to own slaves and, thus, could not profit from the advantage in the marketplace that slaves provided. At the same time, however, he was deeply ambivalent about the status of black people vis-à-vis white people, having fundamental doubts about their innate intelligence and their capacity to fight nobly with guns against white men in the initial years of the Civil War.

Gates concluded:

[Lincoln] certainly embraced anti-black attitudes and phobias in his early years and throughout his debates with Douglas in the 1858 Senate race… By the end of the Civil War, Lincoln was on an upward arc, perhaps heading toward becoming the man he has since been mythologized as being: the Great Emancipator, the man who freed — and loved — the slaves. But his journey was certainly not complete on the day that he died. Abraham Lincoln wrestled with race until the end.

Foner is a lying communist asshole.

Another Big Lincoln Lie Exposed - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com​

After the Emancipation Proclamation (which only "freed" slaves where the government could not do so — in "rebel territory") was issued, Lincoln was hard at work on his various colonization projects. Magness and Page cite British Foreign Minister Lord Lyons as saying in a dispatch to London that "The President of the United States sent for me yesterday, and upon my presenting myself, told me that he had been for some time anxious to speak to me in an informal and unofficial manner on the subject of promoting the emigration of colored people from this country to British colonies" (p. 26).

Shortly thereafter, Lincoln met with one Thomas Malcom of the Pennsylvania Colonization Society to discuss deporting Pennsylvania blacks to Liberia; and sent an emissary to visit the "contraband camps" (where captured Southern slaves were kept) to find "recruits" for colonization to Honduras.​

The most pro-colonization member of Lincoln's cabinet, Postmaster General Montgomery Blair, publicly announced that the "destined glory" of any freed slaves "is to be consummated in the American tropics" (p. 35). Interestingly, the first black man to ever hold an administrative position in the U.S. government was J. Willis Menard, who favored black colonization. He was employed as a clerk in the colonization office.

Magness and Page document that colonization remained the official policy of the Lincoln administration throughout 1864 and early 1865, with several plans being foiled by bureaucratic bungling, corruption, and political bickering. Lincoln is said to have completely lost his temper over such failures.

Late in his life General Benjamin Butler recalled a "colonization interview" that he had with Lincoln two days before the assassination. "What shall we do with the negroes after they are free?", Lincoln is said to have asked the general. According to Butler, Lincoln then said, "I can hardly believe that the South and North can live in peace, unless we can get rid of the negroes" (p. 109). Butler then proposed deporting the freed slaves to Panama to dig a canal, decades before the actual Panama Canal was dug. "There is meat in that, General Butler, there is meat in that," Lincoln reportedly said.

Early Lincoln scholars accepted that this meeting occurred, but then Lincoln cultist/excuse fabricator Mark E. Neely claimed that the meeting could not have happened because Butler was not in Washington on the day he said the meeting took place. Magness and Page disprove Neely's conjecture and conclude that "the meeting itself indisputedly happened."

Colonization after Emancipation proves unequivocally that "colonization remained on the table well beyond the Emancipation Proclamation," contrary to the "accepted wisdom" of James McPherson and other Lincoln cultists. Magness and Page conclude that "The prospect that the u2018Great Emancipator' subscribed to colonizationist beliefs, particularly at the end of his life, seems to completely dispel his popular reputation as a racial egalitarian." Yes, it does.​

Nope... Did Abraham Lincoln plan to send ex-slaves to Central America after the Civil War?

 

[JoeB131]

Lincoln was actually a tyrant. The US was established on John Locke's principle that government legitimacy is based on the consent of the governed. Obviously the people in Southern States did not consent to be governed by the Federal government.

Oh, I suspect the Slaves would have LOVED to be governed by the Federal Government... but fuck those guys, right?

The steady decline of our freedoms started there as since then the Federal government has had no fear on trampling the rights of individual States since they could not leave. Imagine if States could leave. The US government could not just ignore their rights as they do now because of it

Again, given the kind of absolute clowns who occupy the State Capitals, the less they get to do , the better for all of us.

 

[bripat9643]

Calling Lincoln's critics "racists" is par for the course for the typical Lincoln cult member. It's painful when your delusions are exposed for what they are.

You mean YOUR delusions... https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-lincoln-racism-equality-oppose/

From your source:

"The quote as presented by Patterson, and in several Facebook and Twitter posts, is authentic"

That's all that needs to be said.

Sure, if we are just a simpleton like you, but most of us in here aren't.

More Excerpts:

During the Civil War, Foner says, Lincoln’s views evolved radically as he was exposed to black people such as Frederick Douglass, who were far more talented than he had assumed, and as the efforts of freed slaves in the Union army earned them, in Lincoln’s view, the right to citizenship.

Just before his death, Lincoln gave a speech in which he mentioned the possibility of giving black Union soldiers and wealthy black elites the right to vote, in direct contradiction to his 1858 remarks. And yet, Foner told us, for a long time Lincoln’s plan for black people in the United States largely consisted of arranging for them to the leave the country and set up colonies elsewhere.

Foner also warned against overemphasizing the importance of ethnicity to Lincoln by isolating specific racist remarks he made:

The fact is, Lincoln said almost nothing about race. He was not that interested in race…Race was not a major intellectual construct for Lincoln…And the 1858 speech was purely defensive. That doesn’t excuse it, but he was being attacked in those debates as believing in negro equality.

“Whereas abolition was a central aspect of Lincoln’s moral compass”, the Harvard historian Henry Louis Gates wrote in 2009, “racial equality was not”:

…Lincoln despised slavery as an institution, an economic institution that discriminated against white men who couldn’t afford to own slaves and, thus, could not profit from the advantage in the marketplace that slaves provided. At the same time, however, he was deeply ambivalent about the status of black people vis-à-vis white people, having fundamental doubts about their innate intelligence and their capacity to fight nobly with guns against white men in the initial years of the Civil War.

Gates concluded:

[Lincoln] certainly embraced anti-black attitudes and phobias in his early years and throughout his debates with Douglas in the 1858 Senate race… By the end of the Civil War, Lincoln was on an upward arc, perhaps heading toward becoming the man he has since been mythologized as being: the Great Emancipator, the man who freed — and loved — the slaves. But his journey was certainly not complete on the day that he died. Abraham Lincoln wrestled with race until the end.

Foner is a lying communist asshole.

Another Big Lincoln Lie Exposed - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com​

After the Emancipation Proclamation (which only "freed" slaves where the government could not do so — in "rebel territory") was issued, Lincoln was hard at work on his various colonization projects. Magness and Page cite British Foreign Minister Lord Lyons as saying in a dispatch to London that "The President of the United States sent for me yesterday, and upon my presenting myself, told me that he had been for some time anxious to speak to me in an informal and unofficial manner on the subject of promoting the emigration of colored people from this country to British colonies" (p. 26).

Shortly thereafter, Lincoln met with one Thomas Malcom of the Pennsylvania Colonization Society to discuss deporting Pennsylvania blacks to Liberia; and sent an emissary to visit the "contraband camps" (where captured Southern slaves were kept) to find "recruits" for colonization to Honduras.​

The most pro-colonization member of Lincoln's cabinet, Postmaster General Montgomery Blair, publicly announced that the "destined glory" of any freed slaves "is to be consummated in the American tropics" (p. 35). Interestingly, the first black man to ever hold an administrative position in the U.S. government was J. Willis Menard, who favored black colonization. He was employed as a clerk in the colonization office.

Magness and Page document that colonization remained the official policy of the Lincoln administration throughout 1864 and early 1865, with several plans being foiled by bureaucratic bungling, corruption, and political bickering. Lincoln is said to have completely lost his temper over such failures.

Late in his life General Benjamin Butler recalled a "colonization interview" that he had with Lincoln two days before the assassination. "What shall we do with the negroes after they are free?", Lincoln is said to have asked the general. According to Butler, Lincoln then said, "I can hardly believe that the South and North can live in peace, unless we can get rid of the negroes" (p. 109). Butler then proposed deporting the freed slaves to Panama to dig a canal, decades before the actual Panama Canal was dug. "There is meat in that, General Butler, there is meat in that," Lincoln reportedly said.

Early Lincoln scholars accepted that this meeting occurred, but then Lincoln cultist/excuse fabricator Mark E. Neely claimed that the meeting could not have happened because Butler was not in Washington on the day he said the meeting took place. Magness and Page disprove Neely's conjecture and conclude that "the meeting itself indisputedly happened."

Colonization after Emancipation proves unequivocally that "colonization remained on the table well beyond the Emancipation Proclamation," contrary to the "accepted wisdom" of James McPherson and other Lincoln cultists. Magness and Page conclude that "The prospect that the u2018Great Emancipator' subscribed to colonizationist beliefs, particularly at the end of his life, seems to completely dispel his popular reputation as a racial egalitarian." Yes, it does.​

Nope... Did Abraham Lincoln plan to send ex-slaves to Central America after the Civil War?

Your source is heavily quoting Forner again, a known communist and proven liar.

No banana.

Lincoln then said, "I can hardly believe that the South and North can live in peace, unless we can get rid of the negroes"

There's no way to get around that.

 

[Unkotare]

Lincoln’s views on race evolved over time; a testament to his courageous intelligence.

Right up until the day he was executed, he was scheming on how to send all the blacks to Africa or somewhere in the Carribean.

Wrong again. And he wasn’t “executed,” he was assassinated by a coward like you.

His band of thieves probably raped his mom.

The traitorous dogs lost. Get over it, wannabe reb.

 

[bripat9643]

Lincoln’s views on race evolved over time; a testament to his courageous intelligence.

Right up until the day he was executed, he was scheming on how to send all the blacks to Africa or somewhere in the Carribean.

Wrong again. And he wasn’t “executed,” he was assassinated by a coward like you.

His band of thieves probably raped his mom.

The traitorous dogs lost. Get over it, wannabe reb.

No, they won.

 

[otto105]

Lincoln’s views on race evolved over time; a testament to his courageous intelligence.

Right up until the day he was executed, he was scheming on how to send all the blacks to Africa or somewhere in the Carribean.

Wrong again. And he wasn’t “executed,” he was assassinated by a coward like you.

His band of thieves probably raped his mom.

The traitorous dogs lost. Get over it, wannabe reb.

No, they won.

They won what?

 

[bripat9643]

Right up until the day he was executed, he was scheming on how to send all the blacks to Africa or somewhere in the Carribean.

Wrong again. And he wasn’t “executed,” he was assassinated by a coward like you.

His band of thieves probably raped his mom.

The traitorous dogs lost. Get over it, wannabe reb.

No, they won.

They won what?

The Civil War. The traitors won.

 

[Moonglow]

Some white supremicists are very good people.

I am sure they feed their kids..

 

[otto105]

Wrong again. And he wasn’t “executed,” he was assassinated by a coward like you.

His band of thieves probably raped his mom.

The traitorous dogs lost. Get over it, wannabe reb.

No, they won.

They won what?

The Civil War. The traitors won.

Ya sure.


You can kkkeep that confederidiot bumper sticker on yer truck.

 

[bripat9643]

His band of thieves probably raped his mom.

The traitorous dogs lost. Get over it, wannabe reb.

No, they won.

They won what?

The Civil War. The traitors won.

Ya sure.


You can kkkeep that confederidiot bumper sticker on yer truck.

Running away with your tail between your legs?

 

[bripat9643]

Abraham Lincoln quarterly. [Vol. 6, no. 3]

You're a liar and a fat-mouth....and not even man enough to admit it....It DOES matter...because it shows you have no credibility at all in a historical debate...all you got is cut and paste from some lame racist sites.

Calling Lincoln's critics "racists" is par for the course for the typical Lincoln cult member. It's painful when your delusions are exposed for what they are.

You mean YOUR delusions... https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-lincoln-racism-equality-oppose/

From your source:

"The quote as presented by Patterson, and in several Facebook and Twitter posts, is authentic"

That's all that needs to be said.

Sure, if we are just a simpleton like you, but most of us in here aren't.

More Excerpts:

During the Civil War, Foner says, Lincoln’s views evolved radically as he was exposed to black people such as Frederick Douglass, who were far more talented than he had assumed, and as the efforts of freed slaves in the Union army earned them, in Lincoln’s view, the right to citizenship.

Just before his death, Lincoln gave a speech in which he mentioned the possibility of giving black Union soldiers and wealthy black elites the right to vote, in direct contradiction to his 1858 remarks. And yet, Foner told us, for a long time Lincoln’s plan for black people in the United States largely consisted of arranging for them to the leave the country and set up colonies elsewhere.

Foner also warned against overemphasizing the importance of ethnicity to Lincoln by isolating specific racist remarks he made:

The fact is, Lincoln said almost nothing about race. He was not that interested in race…Race was not a major intellectual construct for Lincoln…And the 1858 speech was purely defensive. That doesn’t excuse it, but he was being attacked in those debates as believing in negro equality.

“Whereas abolition was a central aspect of Lincoln’s moral compass”, the Harvard historian Henry Louis Gates wrote in 2009, “racial equality was not”:

…Lincoln despised slavery as an institution, an economic institution that discriminated against white men who couldn’t afford to own slaves and, thus, could not profit from the advantage in the marketplace that slaves provided. At the same time, however, he was deeply ambivalent about the status of black people vis-à-vis white people, having fundamental doubts about their innate intelligence and their capacity to fight nobly with guns against white men in the initial years of the Civil War.

Gates concluded:

[Lincoln] certainly embraced anti-black attitudes and phobias in his early years and throughout his debates with Douglas in the 1858 Senate race… By the end of the Civil War, Lincoln was on an upward arc, perhaps heading toward becoming the man he has since been mythologized as being: the Great Emancipator, the man who freed — and loved — the slaves. But his journey was certainly not complete on the day that he died. Abraham Lincoln wrestled with race until the end.

Foner is a lying communist Lincoln cult member. You are wasting your time quoting him to me.

 

[bripat9643]

Calling Lincoln's critics "racists" is par for the course for the typical Lincoln cult member. It's painful when your delusions are exposed for what they are.

You mean YOUR delusions... https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-lincoln-racism-equality-oppose/

From your source:

"The quote as presented by Patterson, and in several Facebook and Twitter posts, is authentic"

That's all that needs to be said.

Sure, if we are just a simpleton like you, but most of us in here aren't.

More Excerpts:

During the Civil War, Foner says, Lincoln’s views evolved radically as he was exposed to black people such as Frederick Douglass, who were far more talented than he had assumed, and as the efforts of freed slaves in the Union army earned them, in Lincoln’s view, the right to citizenship.

Just before his death, Lincoln gave a speech in which he mentioned the possibility of giving black Union soldiers and wealthy black elites the right to vote, in direct contradiction to his 1858 remarks. And yet, Foner told us, for a long time Lincoln’s plan for black people in the United States largely consisted of arranging for them to the leave the country and set up colonies elsewhere.

Foner also warned against overemphasizing the importance of ethnicity to Lincoln by isolating specific racist remarks he made:

The fact is, Lincoln said almost nothing about race. He was not that interested in race…Race was not a major intellectual construct for Lincoln…And the 1858 speech was purely defensive. That doesn’t excuse it, but he was being attacked in those debates as believing in negro equality.

“Whereas abolition was a central aspect of Lincoln’s moral compass”, the Harvard historian Henry Louis Gates wrote in 2009, “racial equality was not”:

…Lincoln despised slavery as an institution, an economic institution that discriminated against white men who couldn’t afford to own slaves and, thus, could not profit from the advantage in the marketplace that slaves provided. At the same time, however, he was deeply ambivalent about the status of black people vis-à-vis white people, having fundamental doubts about their innate intelligence and their capacity to fight nobly with guns against white men in the initial years of the Civil War.

Gates concluded:

[Lincoln] certainly embraced anti-black attitudes and phobias in his early years and throughout his debates with Douglas in the 1858 Senate race… By the end of the Civil War, Lincoln was on an upward arc, perhaps heading toward becoming the man he has since been mythologized as being: the Great Emancipator, the man who freed — and loved — the slaves. But his journey was certainly not complete on the day that he died. Abraham Lincoln wrestled with race until the end.

Foner is a lying communist asshole.

Another Big Lincoln Lie Exposed - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com​

After the Emancipation Proclamation (which only "freed" slaves where the government could not do so — in "rebel territory") was issued, Lincoln was hard at work on his various colonization projects. Magness and Page cite British Foreign Minister Lord Lyons as saying in a dispatch to London that "The President of the United States sent for me yesterday, and upon my presenting myself, told me that he had been for some time anxious to speak to me in an informal and unofficial manner on the subject of promoting the emigration of colored people from this country to British colonies" (p. 26).

Shortly thereafter, Lincoln met with one Thomas Malcom of the Pennsylvania Colonization Society to discuss deporting Pennsylvania blacks to Liberia; and sent an emissary to visit the "contraband camps" (where captured Southern slaves were kept) to find "recruits" for colonization to Honduras.​

The most pro-colonization member of Lincoln's cabinet, Postmaster General Montgomery Blair, publicly announced that the "destined glory" of any freed slaves "is to be consummated in the American tropics" (p. 35). Interestingly, the first black man to ever hold an administrative position in the U.S. government was J. Willis Menard, who favored black colonization. He was employed as a clerk in the colonization office.

Magness and Page document that colonization remained the official policy of the Lincoln administration throughout 1864 and early 1865, with several plans being foiled by bureaucratic bungling, corruption, and political bickering. Lincoln is said to have completely lost his temper over such failures.

Late in his life General Benjamin Butler recalled a "colonization interview" that he had with Lincoln two days before the assassination. "What shall we do with the negroes after they are free?", Lincoln is said to have asked the general. According to Butler, Lincoln then said, "I can hardly believe that the South and North can live in peace, unless we can get rid of the negroes" (p. 109). Butler then proposed deporting the freed slaves to Panama to dig a canal, decades before the actual Panama Canal was dug. "There is meat in that, General Butler, there is meat in that," Lincoln reportedly said.

Early Lincoln scholars accepted that this meeting occurred, but then Lincoln cultist/excuse fabricator Mark E. Neely claimed that the meeting could not have happened because Butler was not in Washington on the day he said the meeting took place. Magness and Page disprove Neely's conjecture and conclude that "the meeting itself indisputedly happened."

Colonization after Emancipation proves unequivocally that "colonization remained on the table well beyond the Emancipation Proclamation," contrary to the "accepted wisdom" of James McPherson and other Lincoln cultists. Magness and Page conclude that "The prospect that the u2018Great Emancipator' subscribed to colonizationist beliefs, particularly at the end of his life, seems to completely dispel his popular reputation as a racial egalitarian." Yes, it does.​

Nope... Did Abraham Lincoln plan to send ex-slaves to Central America after the Civil War?

More Lincoln cult propaganda. Total bullshit, in other words.

 

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Perpetual Union (since repeating the same old thing seems to be in vogue here).