how did birth certificate qualification turn into "racism"?

[Spare_change]

You're a RACIST!!!

I have been told that by racists many times.

How dare I point out the racist nature of Birthers- I have also been called a race traitor.

Well, of COURSE, it's racist!!!

After all, he's BLACK! Therefore, any question MUST, by definition, be racist..

What a dumb ass thing to post.

You trying to change the subject from your many lies about Barack Obama- and Trump's even greater number of lies?

Do you think that Trump lied about President Obama because he was trying to appeal to racists?

Or for partisan politics?

I'm trying to change the subject, because I replied to a nonsensical post? That doesn't mean I was trying to change the subject - only that the kind of ridiculousness posted needed to be addressed. If you hadn't been stupid enough to post such drivel, I wouldn't have been motivated to respond.

MY many lies? MY many LIES?

Maybe you could, you know, just quote one?

I don't think Trump lied, at all ... I think he raised a question HE felt had not been adequately addressed.

Here ya go...

Obama is the first one who refused to provide the information in a timely manner...

... in reality, Obama produced his certification of live birth, the document of his birth record, certified by the state of Hawaii, in June, 2008.

Huh? The key isn't when the answer was provided - the key is when the question was asked.

 

[Faun]

I have been told that by racists many times.

How dare I point out the racist nature of Birthers- I have also been called a race traitor.

Well, of COURSE, it's racist!!!

After all, he's BLACK! Therefore, any question MUST, by definition, be racist..

What a dumb ass thing to post.

You trying to change the subject from your many lies about Barack Obama- and Trump's even greater number of lies?

Do you think that Trump lied about President Obama because he was trying to appeal to racists?

Or for partisan politics?

I'm trying to change the subject, because I replied to a nonsensical post? That doesn't mean I was trying to change the subject - only that the kind of ridiculousness posted needed to be addressed. If you hadn't been stupid enough to post such drivel, I wouldn't have been motivated to respond.

MY many lies? MY many LIES?

Maybe you could, you know, just quote one?

I don't think Trump lied, at all ... I think he raised a question HE felt had not been adequately addressed.

Here ya go...

Obama is the first one who refused to provide the information in a timely manner...

... in reality, Obama produced his certification of live birth, the document of his birth record, certified by the state of Hawaii, in June, 2008.

Huh? The key isn't when the answer was provided - the key is when the question was asked.

When was the question asked .... ? include links

 

[Rustic]

McCain is not a natural born citizen. dip shit

Prove it.

The GOP thought he was. The Democrats did too.

And frankly I do- an American born to American parents while serving the United States overseas- what kind of message would that be telling our soldiers and sailors if we asked them to serve overseas but their children born overseas could never be President.

Why would you want to hurt the children of American servicemen and women?

He's a spineless Progressive career politician, that disqualifies him. He's an embarrassment to the men and women of our military.

Exactly, stick with that. McCain is a spineless career politician. The not a natural born American when he was born on a military base is tinfoil

That's what I said all along and him being a progressive career politician disqualifies him alone, and he's an absolute embarrassment to the men and women of our military. Anyway, he was probably the shittiest politician this country has ever seen no one showed up to vote for the son of a bitch. Lol

Hmmm no one showed up to vote for him?
God right wing nut jobs are stubborn when it comes to lying to us and against veterans.

View attachment 91662
An awful lot of red for no one voting for him.

And real Veterans have always backed McCain

PRINCETON, NJ -- With both presidential candidates addressing the Veterans of Foreign Wars convention this week (John McCain on Monday and Barack Obama on Tuesday), Gallup finds that registered voters who have served in the U.S. military solidly back McCain over Obama, 56% to 34%.

Real Conservatives stayed home… fact

 

[Syriusly]

Ever since President Obama has been elected to office,

racists have been pissed off that the 'racist' is being used to describe racists.

You're a RACIST!!!

I have been told that by racists many times.

How dare I point out the racist nature of Birthers- I have also been called a race traitor.

Well, of COURSE, it's racist!!!

After all, he's BLACK! Therefore, any question MUST, by definition, be racist..

What a dumb ass thing to post.

You trying to change the subject from your many lies about Barack Obama- and Trump's even greater number of lies?

Do you think that Trump lied about President Obama because he was trying to appeal to racists?

Or for partisan politics?

MY many lies? MY many LIES?

Maybe you could, you know, just quote one?.

I have already addressed several- but I will be glad to point them out again

1. 

This is where you lied said that President Obama's biography said he was born in Kenya

2. This is where you changed your lie from his 'autobiography' to 'promotional book approved by Obama'
It was a promotional brochure- not a book- and as you know- it was not approved of by President Obama- or written by him:
This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me — an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii.

3. It is common practice for presidential candidates to provide a biographical packet to the press - includes things like birth certificate,

President Obama is the first candidate to ever show reporters or voters his birth certificate. It is by definition, not a common practice.
Another out right lie. Barack Obama is the first Presidential candidate to ever produce his birth certificate for reporters. He published his birth certificate on June 13, 2008- the first candidate to ever do so.

Barack Obama set the precedence- since then I know of only two candidates who have shown their birth certificates- certainly on Mitt Romney- the 2012 GOP candidate- nor John McCain(his eligibility was questioned but he never released his Panama BC)- Trump has(because of his own Birther idiocy- and Cruz (because of his Canada birth)- but not any of the other GOP candidates.

So much for 'common practice'- which of course just lie #3

4. As for nobody else releasing their birth certificate - you provided a link to show that others have released their birth certificates- but none had
JFK- nope
LBJ- there is a copy online- dated 1961- without his first name.....
Nixon- a copy that specifies it is not a valid copy- and shows being issued in 1942- when he was 29
Jimmy Carter- no
George HW Bush- no
Bill Clinton- no
George W. Bush- no copy available online- but you might be able to go to his Presidential library and see a copy- maybe.

5. Campaigns put forth a biographical package on all candidates. Included in that package is a birth certificate.
No Presidential candidate does that. Maybe Cruz did- but not Trump or Obama. And those are the only candidates in the history of the United States who have shown voters their birth certificates.

5 solid lies.

All yours

Just like all of Trump's Birther lies.

 

[Rustic]

You're a RACIST!!!

I have been told that by racists many times.

How dare I point out the racist nature of Birthers- I have also been called a race traitor.

Well, of COURSE, it's racist!!!

After all, he's BLACK! Therefore, any question MUST, by definition, be racist..

What a dumb ass thing to post.

You trying to change the subject from your many lies about Barack Obama- and Trump's even greater number of lies?

Do you think that Trump lied about President Obama because he was trying to appeal to racists?

Or for partisan politics?

I'm trying to change the subject, because I replied to a nonsensical post? That doesn't mean I was trying to change the subject - only that the kind of ridiculousness posted needed to be addressed. If you hadn't been stupid enough to post such drivel, I wouldn't have been motivated to respond.

MY many lies? MY many LIES?

Maybe you could, you know, just quote one?

I don't think Trump lied, at all ... I think he raised a question HE felt had not been adequately addressed.

Here ya go...

Obama is the first one who refused to provide the information in a timely manner...

... in reality, Obama produced his certification of live birth, the document of his birth record certified by the state of Hawaii, in June, 2008.

 

[Syriusly]

[
I don't think Trump lied, at all ... I think he raised a question HE felt had not been adequately addressed.

How did Donald Trump think that this question

Was not 'adequately addressed by these statements?

 

[Syriusly]

Prove it.

The GOP thought he was. The Democrats did too.

And frankly I do- an American born to American parents while serving the United States overseas- what kind of message would that be telling our soldiers and sailors if we asked them to serve overseas but their children born overseas could never be President.

Why would you want to hurt the children of American servicemen and women?

He's a spineless Progressive career politician, that disqualifies him. He's an embarrassment to the men and women of our military.

Exactly, stick with that. McCain is a spineless career politician. The not a natural born American when he was born on a military base is tinfoil

That's what I said all along and him being a progressive career politician disqualifies him alone, and he's an absolute embarrassment to the men and women of our military. Anyway, he was probably the shittiest politician this country has ever seen no one showed up to vote for the son of a bitch. Lol

Hmmm no one showed up to vote for him?
God right wing nut jobs are stubborn when it comes to lying to us and against veterans.

View attachment 91662
An awful lot of red for no one voting for him.

And real Veterans have always backed McCain

PRINCETON, NJ -- With both presidential candidates addressing the Veterans of Foreign Wars convention this week (John McCain on Monday and Barack Obama on Tuesday), Gallup finds that registered voters who have served in the U.S. military solidly back McCain over Obama, 56% to 34%.

And he fucking embarrassed all of the veterans, by being a fucked up career politician. You do remember he lost the fucking election?.

Real Veterans clearly disagree with you.

You know- rational America loving Veterans- the ones who are not like you.

 

[Rustic]

 

[Rustic]

He's a spineless Progressive career politician, that disqualifies him. He's an embarrassment to the men and women of our military.

Exactly, stick with that. McCain is a spineless career politician. The not a natural born American when he was born on a military base is tinfoil

That's what I said all along and him being a progressive career politician disqualifies him alone, and he's an absolute embarrassment to the men and women of our military. Anyway, he was probably the shittiest politician this country has ever seen no one showed up to vote for the son of a bitch. Lol

Hmmm no one showed up to vote for him?
God right wing nut jobs are stubborn when it comes to lying to us and against veterans.

View attachment 91662
An awful lot of red for no one voting for him.

And real Veterans have always backed McCain

PRINCETON, NJ -- With both presidential candidates addressing the Veterans of Foreign Wars convention this week (John McCain on Monday and Barack Obama on Tuesday), Gallup finds that registered voters who have served in the U.S. military solidly back McCain over Obama, 56% to 34%.

And he fucking embarrassed all of the veterans, by being a fucked up career politician. You do remember he lost the fucking election?.

Real Veterans clearly disagree with you.

You know- rational America loving Veterans- the ones who are not like you.

I do business with current military people from all over the country and veterans Alike. Believe me they have no respect for that fucking Judis.

 

[Rustic]

 

[BlindBoo]

because your political war against Obama was based around the suggestion that he was a black Muslim in cahoots with our enemies.

Was? Did you say was? It still is, very much so. Mr. Trump is campaigning against Obama almost as much as he is Sec. Clinton.

 

[kaz]

I would consider Rustic (and you) to be typical of what represents an all to large segment of the Republican leaning populace.

It's an insult to call me a Republican, libertarian is a much better stand.

You think you're a libertarian?

Classic sign someone is a Libertarian, deny when someone else claims to be a Libertarian. You guys are your own worst enemies.

I'm not a Libertarian, I'm a libertarian. I don't know what rustic is other than nuts

Good point, actually I didn't mean the party, I meant the ideology that has never governed a successful country ever.

You mean other than the creation of the United States and the first 150 years or so?

 

[kaz]

Got a source? I'd like to hear about this huge McCain birther movement that Democrats ran. Provide a source to that, something that rivals Trump's actions. Trump is a double birther, btw.

Clinton, Obama Agree: McCain’s a “Natural Born Citizen”

McCain is not a natural born citizen. dip shit

Prove it.

The GOP thought he was. The Democrats did too.

And frankly I do- an American born to American parents while serving the United States overseas- what kind of message would that be telling our soldiers and sailors if we asked them to serve overseas but their children born overseas could never be President.

Why would you want to hurt the children of American servicemen and women?

He's a spineless Progressive career politician, that disqualifies him. He's an embarrassment to the men and women of our military.

Exactly, stick with that. McCain is a spineless career politician. The not a natural born American when he was born on a military base is tinfoil

That's what I said all along and him being a progressive career politician disqualifies him alone, and he's an absolute embarrassment to the men and women of our military. Anyway, he was probably the shittiest politician this country has ever seen no one showed up to vote for the son of a bitch. Lol

You said he's not "natural born," which he clearly is. To say that military go overseas and serve their country and as a reward their children aren't natural born Americans and can't be President is an abomination to liberty.

Also, McCain was a great soldier, what he went through in Vietnam and at the Hanoi Hilton and refusing to leave early because he was a Senators son was true hero.

However, as a politician? I totally agree with you.

BTW, in terms of military being from a military family in a military community, as unpopular as McCain is, Carter is the one I see the most clearly disowned by the military. Again, that's just my experience

 

[kaz]

because your political war against Obama was based around the suggestion that he was a black Muslim in cahoots with our enemies.

Was? Did you say was? It still is, very much so. Mr. Trump is campaigning against Obama almost as much as he is Sec. Clinton.

No shit. Same thing as Obama did to Romney, W did to Gore, ... Welcome to politics. How old are you? High school?

 

[kaz]

Tell Kaz what a flaming liberal you are.

Rustic's a lunatic, that defies party. And shit for brains, your standard of EVERY liberal and EVERY conservative is just as butt stupid as you are

I would consider Rustic (and you) to be typical of what represents an all to large segment of the Republican leaning populace.

It's an insult to call me a Republican, libertarian is a much better stand.

Wow! I got a whole list of names to call you .... and libertarian didn't even make the cut. Reckon I better update that list.

Another libertarian who doesn't like libertarians.

Strawman. I don't like faux libertarians. How are you with faux liberals? You like them?

 

[Syriusly]

Exactly, stick with that. McCain is a spineless career politician. The not a natural born American when he was born on a military base is tinfoil

That's what I said all along and him being a progressive career politician disqualifies him alone, and he's an absolute embarrassment to the men and women of our military. Anyway, he was probably the shittiest politician this country has ever seen no one showed up to vote for the son of a bitch. Lol

Hmmm no one showed up to vote for him?
God right wing nut jobs are stubborn when it comes to lying to us and against veterans.

View attachment 91662
An awful lot of red for no one voting for him.

And real Veterans have always backed McCain

PRINCETON, NJ -- With both presidential candidates addressing the Veterans of Foreign Wars convention this week (John McCain on Monday and Barack Obama on Tuesday), Gallup finds that registered voters who have served in the U.S. military solidly back McCain over Obama, 56% to 34%.

And he fucking embarrassed all of the veterans, by being a fucked up career politician. You do remember he lost the fucking election?.

Real Veterans clearly disagree with you.

You know- rational America loving Veterans- the ones who are not like you.

I do business with current military people from all over the country and veterans Alike. .

Well you do business with veterans.....clearly then you know how everyone feels- to hell with actual polls of veterans.

LOL

 

[Syriusly]

I am curious about the spineless posters who are attacking John McCain.

What political positions has he taken that you are against?

 

[Rustic]

That's what I said all along and him being a progressive career politician disqualifies him alone, and he's an absolute embarrassment to the men and women of our military. Anyway, he was probably the shittiest politician this country has ever seen no one showed up to vote for the son of a bitch. Lol

Hmmm no one showed up to vote for him?
God right wing nut jobs are stubborn when it comes to lying to us and against veterans.

View attachment 91662
An awful lot of red for no one voting for him.

And real Veterans have always backed McCain

PRINCETON, NJ -- With both presidential candidates addressing the Veterans of Foreign Wars convention this week (John McCain on Monday and Barack Obama on Tuesday), Gallup finds that registered voters who have served in the U.S. military solidly back McCain over Obama, 56% to 34%.

And he fucking embarrassed all of the veterans, by being a fucked up career politician. You do remember he lost the fucking election?.

Real Veterans clearly disagree with you.

You know- rational America loving Veterans- the ones who are not like you.

I do business with current military people from all over the country and veterans Alike. .

Well you do business with veterans.....clearly then you know how everyone feels- to hell with actual polls of veterans.

LOL

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data."
Nonetheless, I have never come across any of them that are supporting either berry or the Hildabeast

 

[Spare_change]

McCain is not a natural born citizen. dip shit

Tell Kaz what a flaming liberal you are.

Rustic's a lunatic, that defies party. And shit for brains, your standard of EVERY liberal and EVERY conservative is just as butt stupid as you are

I would consider Rustic (and you) to be typical of what represents an all to large segment of the Republican leaning populace.

It's an insult to call me a Republican, libertarian is a much better stand.

Wow! I got a whole list of names to call you .... and libertarian didn't even make the cut. Reckon I better update that list.

Just cling to your fantasy ... ignore reality. It must be fun living there.

 

[Spare_change]

You're a RACIST!!!

I have been told that by racists many times.

How dare I point out the racist nature of Birthers- I have also been called a race traitor.

Well, of COURSE, it's racist!!!

After all, he's BLACK! Therefore, any question MUST, by definition, be racist..

What a dumb ass thing to post.

You trying to change the subject from your many lies about Barack Obama- and Trump's even greater number of lies?

Do you think that Trump lied about President Obama because he was trying to appeal to racists?

Or for partisan politics?

MY many lies? MY many LIES?

Maybe you could, you know, just quote one?.

I have already addressed several- but I will be glad to point them out again

1. View attachment 91664

This is where you lied said that President Obama's biography said he was born in Kenya

2. This is where you changed your lie from his 'autobiography' to 'promotional book approved by Obama'
It was a promotional brochure- not a book- and as you know- it was not approved of by President Obama- or written by him:
This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me — an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii.

3. It is common practice for presidential candidates to provide a biographical packet to the press - includes things like birth certificate,

President Obama is the first candidate to ever show reporters or voters his birth certificate. It is by definition, not a common practice.
Another out right lie. Barack Obama is the first Presidential candidate to ever produce his birth certificate for reporters. He published his birth certificate on June 13, 2008- the first candidate to ever do so.

Barack Obama set the precedence- since then I know of only two candidates who have shown their birth certificates- certainly on Mitt Romney- the 2012 GOP candidate- nor John McCain(his eligibility was questioned but he never released his Panama BC)- Trump has(because of his own Birther idiocy- and Cruz (because of his Canada birth)- but not any of the other GOP candidates.

So much for 'common practice'- which of course just lie #3

4. As for nobody else releasing their birth certificate - you provided a link to show that others have released their birth certificates- but none had
JFK- nope
LBJ- there is a copy online- dated 1961- without his first name.....
Nixon- a copy that specifies it is not a valid copy- and shows being issued in 1942- when he was 29
Jimmy Carter- no
George HW Bush- no
Bill Clinton- no
George W. Bush- no copy available online- but you might be able to go to his Presidential library and see a copy- maybe.

5. Campaigns put forth a biographical package on all candidates. Included in that package is a birth certificate.
No Presidential candidate does that. Maybe Cruz did- but not Trump or Obama. And those are the only candidates in the history of the United States who have shown voters their birth certificates.

5 solid lies.

All yours

Just like all of Trump's Birther lies.

LOL --- it must be fun living in your little fantasy world.

You were given the facts - you choose to ignore them.

Now, live with the consequences.