2aguy
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and still = FOUR TIMES less murder rate1. once again BULLSHIT--it's not gun free--it's gun controlled
2. they've many times LESS shootings
I guess LESS shootings is bad..........?????!!!!!!!!!!??????????
Here....the truth......
Decivilization in the 1960s
And figure two, Homicide rates in US and England 1900-2000, shows that in the 1960s the homicide rate in America went through the roof.
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After a three-decade free fall that spanned the Great Depression, World War II, and the Cold War, Americans multiplied their homicide rate by more than two and a half, from a low of 4.0 in 1957 to a high of 10.2 in 1980 (U.S. Bureau of Statistics; Fox and Zawitz: 2007). The upsurge included every other category of major crime as well, including rape, assault, robbery, and theft, and lasted (with ups and downs) for three decades. The cities got particularly dangerous, especially New York, which became a symbol of the new criminality. Though the surge in violence affected all the races and both genders, it was most dramatic among black men, whose annual homicide rate had shot up by the mid-1980s to 72 per 100,000.
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The rebounding of violence in the 1960s defied every expectation. The decade was a time of unprecedented economic growth, nearly full employment, levels of economic equality for which people today are nostalgic, historic racial progress, and the blossoming of government social programs, not to mention medical advances that made victims more likely to survive being shot or knifed. Social theorists in 1962 would have happily bet that these fortunate conditions would lead to a continuing era of low crime. And they would have lost their shirts.
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Together with self-control and societal connectedness, a third ideal came under attack: marriage and family life, which had done so much to domesticate male violence in the preceding decades.
The idea that a man and a woman should devote their energies to a monogamous relationship in which they raise their children in a safe environment became a target of howling ridicule. That life was now the soulless, conformist, consumerist, materialist, ticky-tacky, plastic, white-bread, Ozzie and Harriet suburban wasteland.
Britain has now reached the point where their families have collapsed.........and their rising levels of young male of violence and murder show this...
Also in Britain....law enforcement on the run....as happened in the U.S. in the 1960s....
As the rationalizations for criminality caught the attention of judges and legislators, they became increasingly reluctant to put miscreants behind bars. Though the civil liberties reform of the era did not lead to nearly as many vicious criminals ‘going free on a technicality’ as the Dirty Harry movies would suggest, law enforcement was indeed retreating as the crime rate was advancing. In the United States from 1962 to 1979, the likelihood that a crime would lead to an arrest dropped from 0.32 to 0.18, the likelihood that an arrest would lead to imprisonment dropped from 0.32 to 0.14, and the likelihood that a crime would lead to imprisonment fell from 0.10 to 0.02, a factor of five.[10]
Which has nothing to do with their gun control laws......you moron. They had a low gun murder rate before they banned guns.....they had a 10 year spike after they banned guns, now their gun murder rate returned to the same level as before they banned guns....which, using "Science" shows that gun control had no effect on their gun murder rate....you doofus.
Meanwhile, as more Americans own and carry guns....our gun murder rate went down 49%.....our gun crime rate went down 75%....using "science" that would mean that law abiding people with guns do not increase the gun murder rate or the gun crime rate.....showing your theory is crap. It has no evidence to support it, and that you cling to it means you are using emotion, not reason, to cling to your agenda.