How far is the US from Fascism ?

Agreed, the US does have a long history of populists or fascists. But they were mostly on the state level. None were able to lead on the national stage.

Unluckily for us, Trump broke through to the national level. But luckily for us, Trump is inept. His bumbling, his crimes, his inability to get things done, his inability to stay focused, etc has so far saved us.

But that doesn't mean that there aren't trump-minis around the corner who would be more focused and more able to push through their agenda. Hopefully, we have learned our lesson and can stop these future Hitlers before they make too much of an inroad.

One can only hope.
/--------/ his crimes, WHAT CRIMES?
his inability to get things done, HERE'S A SHORT LIST.
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his inability to stay focused YOU MEAN WANDER OFF STAGE IN MID SENTENCE, LIKE DEMENTIA JOE ? YOU MEAN LIKE THAT?
 

It took Hitler less than 6 months to tighten his grip on power. As I watched this programme I was struck by the similarities between Germany and the US. Hitler and Trump.

Hitler waged war on German institutions. Its government, its press and of course its court system. When he had finished there was nothing left.He burned fown the Reichstag. Trump lanched an invasion of Congress.

Hitler told Germans that he was the only answer to the problems of the state. Trump is doing that right now.

Hitlers followers had a violent core of street thugs who beat and murdered anybody that Hitler didnt like, They were paramilitary and wore their own uniforms. A bit like the proud boys and oath keepers. Violent thugs.

The threats of violence to prosecutors, judges and juries is something that they both share.

Hitler took his revenge on those who opposed him. Check out the story of Hans Litten. He was murdered in a camp for the crime of humiliating Hitler in court.

Of course Trump is threatening revenge on everyone who gets in his way.

Hitler and his group despised democracy. So do Trump and his chums. They just want power and too many "wrong" people vote. Election denying is pure fascism when it does not present any evidence. Its not just that trump is a narcissist. He is a deeply evil man.Like Hitler.

Hitler hated minorities. So does trump and trumpism. The nazis told women to get back in the home. So do trumpists. The nazis murdered gay folk. Trump vilifies them and works to remove them from society.

The nazis burned books, so does trumpism. Intellectuals were murdered by nazis. Check out trumpism and climate change.

This is not controversial. The biggest eye opener was the way that German society backed down at every opportunity. They thought that they were being clever. But Hitler just took the concession and moved on to the next level.

Those GOP politicians who have facilitated the rise of trump, looked the other way and swallowed their pride will have blood on their hands.

Trumpism isnt new. There is a long history of fascism in the US. If trump is elected then a noisy minority may see all their dreams come true.
Further than the UK?
But still on the same trajectory
 

It took Hitler less than 6 months to tighten his grip on power. As I watched this programme I was struck by the similarities between Germany and the US. Hitler and Trump.

Hitler waged war on German institutions. Its government, its press and of course its court system. When he had finished there was nothing left.He burned fown the Reichstag. Trump lanched an invasion of Congress.

Hitler told Germans that he was the only answer to the problems of the state. Trump is doing that right now.

Hitlers followers had a violent core of street thugs who beat and murdered anybody that Hitler didnt like, They were paramilitary and wore their own uniforms. A bit like the proud boys and oath keepers. Violent thugs.

The threats of violence to prosecutors, judges and juries is something that they both share.

Hitler took his revenge on those who opposed him. Check out the story of Hans Litten. He was murdered in a camp for the crime of humiliating Hitler in court.

Of course Trump is threatening revenge on everyone who gets in his way.

Hitler and his group despised democracy. So do Trump and his chums. They just want power and too many "wrong" people vote. Election denying is pure fascism when it does not present any evidence. Its not just that trump is a narcissist. He is a deeply evil man.Like Hitler.

Hitler hated minorities. So does trump and trumpism. The nazis told women to get back in the home. So do trumpists. The nazis murdered gay folk. Trump vilifies them and works to remove them from society.

The nazis burned books, so does trumpism. Intellectuals were murdered by nazis. Check out trumpism and climate change.

This is not controversial. The biggest eye opener was the way that German society backed down at every opportunity. They thought that they were being clever. But Hitler just took the concession and moved on to the next level.

Those GOP politicians who have facilitated the rise of trump, looked the other way and swallowed their pride will have blood on their hands.

Trumpism isnt new. There is a long history of fascism in the US. If trump is elected then a noisy minority may see all their dreams come true.
This is how Leftists act -- LIKE YOU, TOMMY --, an illustration of what recent social psychology book speaks of

Liberal Bullies : Inside the Mind of the Authoritarian Left​

Conway, Luke

"An alarmingly high percentage of self-identified progressives are punitive, bullying and intolerant of disagreement - and the problem is getting worse. Using his own cutting-edge research to analyse contemporary politics, leading psychologist Conway shows that it's not just right-wingers and fascists who long for an authority figure to crush their enemies, silence opponents, and restore order.

A persistent proportion of left-wingers demonstrate authoritarian tendencies, and they're becoming more emboldened.

On issues ranging from schooling and vaccine mandates to critical race theory, they are increasingly advocating censorship over free debate, disregarding the rule of law, and dehumanising their opponents."
 
/--------/ his crimes, WHAT CRIMES?
his inability to get things done, HERE'S A SHORT LIST.
View attachment 860716 his inability to stay focused YOU MEAN WANDER OFF STAGE IN MID SENTENCE, LIKE DEMENTIA JOE ? YOU MEAN LIKE THAT?
List assembled by Trump's son, likely at Mar A Lardo.
Just like every time either one speaks..............BS, on top of BS.
 
/——/ Yet you fail to refute anything on the list. All you can do is attack the messenger. Typical liberal.
Because the "Messenger" is Trump and his son.

'More than 2 million jobs created"?

Trump Leaving Office With 3M Less Jobs Than When He ...​

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Newsweek
https://www.newsweek.com › ... › Unemployment

Jan 19, 2021 — Trump has the worst jobs record of any president since Herbert Hoover in 1933.

"Unemployment falls to a 17 year low"?

US unemployment surges to a Depression-era level of 14.7%​

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AP News
https://apnews.com › article › donald-trump-us-news-a...

May 8, 2020 — And it robs President Donald Trump of the ability to point to a strong economy as he runs for reelection. “The jobs report from hell is here,” ...

"Signed a trade deal with China"?
Why?
Aren't they the enemy?

China promised Trump a better deal for America; it didn't ...​

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NPR
https://www.npr.org › sections › money › 2022/02/15

Feb 15, 2022 — "In the end," Bown says, "China actually bought none of the additional $200 billion of exports that it promised in the agreement." Zilch. Nada.

"5 year lobbying ban"?

281 lobbyists have worked in Trump administration: report​

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The Hill
https://thehill.com › business-a-lobbying › 465865-28...

Oct 15, 2019 — President Trump hired 281 lobbyists to his administration by the halfway point of his first term, which is four times more than President ...

Like I stated Trump's "accomplishments" are Bullshit.
 
Agreed, the US does have a long history of populists or fascists. But they were mostly on the state level. None were able to lead on the national stage.

Unluckily for us, Trump broke through to the national level. But luckily for us, Trump is inept. His bumbling, his crimes, his inability to get things done, his inability to stay focused, etc has so far saved us.

But that doesn't mean that there aren't trump-minis around the corner who would be more focused and more able to push through their agenda. Hopefully, we have learned our lesson and can stop these future Hitlers before they make too much of an inroad.

One can only hope.
Magnus, USA fascists and bigots have always existed in the USA. They were substantially active prior to World War two, and then since that war they've again resurfaced to again be more or less substantially active within all the USA's states.

Transcription of my 18NOV2023, post:
Smokin Op, I'm grateful for Hitler declaration of war upon the United States. Then, prior to Japan's Pearl Harbor attack, many Americans ignorant of their own national heritage, were Nazi supporters.
History repeats itself. Today too many of those fools' grandchildren are now “Holocaust deniers” and supporters of Palestinian terrorists.

Respectfully, Supposn
 
It gives them license to not care about innocent human life.

They're all evil over there. That's the thought process. Nice and simple.
If you can stop thinking about your victims as people then you are able to visit any atrocity on them.
Hence vermin.
There is a thread on here bout rats in Gaza today. None of our politicians seems able to withstand this Its very sad.
 
Because the "Messenger" is Trump and his son.

'More than 2 million jobs created"?


Trump Leaving Office With 3M Less Jobs Than When He ...



View attachment 860736
Newsweek
https://www.newsweek.com › ... › Unemployment
Jan 19, 2021 — Trump has the worst jobs record of any president since Herbert Hoover in 1933.

"Unemployment falls to a 17 year low"?


US unemployment surges to a Depression-era level of 14.7%

View attachment 860737
AP News
https://apnews.com › article › donald-trump-us-news-a...
May 8, 2020 — And it robs President Donald Trump of the ability to point to a strong economy as he runs for reelection. “The jobs report from hell is here,” ...

"Signed a trade deal with China"?
Why?
Aren't they the enemy?


China promised Trump a better deal for America; it didn't ...

View attachment 860738
NPR
https://www.npr.org › sections › money › 2022/02/15
Feb 15, 2022 — "In the end," Bown says, "China actually bought none of the additional $200 billion of exports that it promised in the agreement." Zilch. Nada.

"5 year lobbying ban"?


281 lobbyists have worked in Trump administration: report

View attachment 860739
The Hill
https://thehill.com › business-a-lobbying › 465865-28...
Oct 15, 2019 — President Trump hired 281 lobbyists to his administration by the halfway point of his first term, which is four times more than President ...

Like I stated Trump's "accomplishments" are Bullshit.
/-----/ Got any more lies to spread? This has been debunked many times.
Newsweek
https://www.newsweek.com › ... › Unemployment
Jan 19, 2021 — Trump has the worst jobs record of any president since Herbert Hoover in 1933.
"Unemployment falls to a 17 year low"?

So you disapprove of the state governors shutting down their economies due to the pandemic? That's surprising. Did you support Trump when he called for an early reopening of the economy?

Governors around the United States began sketching out plans Tuesday to reopen their economies in a slow and methodical process to prevent the coronavirus from rebounding with tragic consequences.
Trump has repeatedly expressed his desire to see the U.S. reopened for business quickly, and at one point wanted to see churches packed on Easter. On Monday he insisted he has “total” authority over the loosening of restrictions, even though the Constitution largely delegates such powers to the states.
 
/-----/ Got any more lies to spread? This has been debunked many times.
Newsweek
https://www.newsweek.com › ... › Unemployment
Jan 19, 2021 — Trump has the worst jobs record of any president since Herbert Hoover in 1933.
"Unemployment falls to a 17 year low"?

So you disapprove of the state governors shutting down their economies due to the pandemic? That's surprising. Did you support Trump when he called for an early reopening of the economy?

Governors around the United States began sketching out plans Tuesday to reopen their economies in a slow and methodical process to prevent the coronavirus from rebounding with tragic consequences.
Trump has repeatedly expressed his desire to see the U.S. reopened for business quickly, and at one point wanted to see churches packed on Easter. On Monday he insisted he has “total” authority over the loosening of restrictions, even though the Constitution largely delegates such powers to the states.
That isn't debunking..........SHIT.
 
If you can stop thinking about your victims as people then you are able to visit any atrocity on them.
Hence vermin.
There is a thread on here bout rats in Gaza today. None of our politicians seems able to withstand this Its very sad.
Haha
 
Magnus, USA fascists and bigots have always existed in the USA. They were substantially active prior to World War two, and then since that war they've again resurfaced to again be more or less substantially active within all the USA's states.

Transcription of my 18NOV2023, post:
Smokin Op, I'm grateful for Hitler declaration of war upon the United States. Then, prior to Japan's Pearl Harbor attack, many Americans ignorant of their own national heritage, were Nazi supporters.
History repeats itself. Today too many of those fools' grandchildren are now “Holocaust deniers” and supporters of Palestinian terrorists.

Respectfully, Supposn
/-----/ "History repeats itself. Today too many of those fools' grandchildren are now “Holocaust deniers” and supporters of Palestinian terrorists."
Ironically, the Palestinians are not Holocaust deniers; They want to restart it.
Muslims in Europe marching for Palestine have cried out for the 'Murder of Jews,' 'Hitler was right' a reference to the slaughter of two thirds of World Jewry.
'Allah bless Hitler' After all this revolting xenophobia behaviour against the Jews by Muslims and their brother's in arms the extreme leftists and rightists
 

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