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The answer to this question should be obvious based on the context of the conversation. So answer for me why?My ruger isn't an assault rifle because it doesn't have a 20 round mag. I can only load 4 bullets at a time. 3 in the mag and one live round. That's a hunting rifle. Why do you need 20 rounds?
The country isn't full of nuts. That MSM and Political propaganda. I've never been shot, threatened with a gun, or anyone ever pull out a gun in my presence in a threatening way. However, the left would like you to be believe so. So which narrative do you believe, propaganda or statistical facts?I'm just saying if we have turned into a country full of nuts, maybe the 2nd amendment needs to be amended.
And this is why I do advocate for training for those that want to own firearms responsibly. There are idiots out there, I think every gun owner in America can agree to that point. There is a lot to think about when it comes to either mandatory training or involuntary training. Perhaps involuntary training could allow for the owner for better protection legally, or greater penalties if they break laws that were outlined in training.He also fails to realize how piss poor of a shot most Americans are.
I went to a gun range recently, with my kids, and was amazed at how poorly the average person shoots! My family and I were constantly being approached for help by the other patrons. They did not know how to operate their weapons or hit the broad side of a barn.
You've never been kicked by a mule then have you.Oh bullshit. A shot gun holds six rounds before reloading and kicks like a mule.
Anything can be an assault weapon. I see plenty of idiots driving 2 ton vehicles while aimlessly entranced by their phones every day, yet, our gov't and tech giants do little to stop those higher risk encounters. Phone laws are in place, but I don't see them enforced.An assault weapon holds 30 or more, reloads fast and has almost no kick… meaning it fires pretty accurately with the twitch of a finger
True story, first time I fired a shotgun I was told how to hold but, but didn't pull it into the shoulder with any pressure. My shoulder hurt for a few days after that.That depends on how your shoulders are built, length of arms, length of stock.
There are a number of shotguns fed by removable magazines. Here are a few of the best:Another idiot speaks.
Empty a magazine from an AR and then fire six rounds from a shotgun. Fire both as fast as you can and count the hits.
The AR with almost no kick is going have way more hits than the shotgun.
Now reload. That shotgun is going to take a LOT longer loading one shell at a time than hitting a button to drop the mag in the AR and slamming another 30 round (or more) mag on place.
Stop pretending to be stupid
I would have to shorten the stock drastically for any shotgun to fit in the soft part of my shoulder. It always sits on the shoulder bone, and that hurts like hell. Even then I would add a recoil pad.True story, first time I fired a shotgun I was told how to hold but, but didn't pull it into the shoulder with any pressure. My shoulder hurt for a few days after that.
Aim is NOT affected by recoil unless you are an idiot who is pulling the trigger as fast as you can. Even with an AR-15, you have to reacquire your sight alignment after a shot and the AR-15 has a very minor recoil.What horse shit. Aim is always affected by recoil.
And I remind you that I’m the case of Gabby Giffords the shooter was ONLY overcome because he was reloading and that makes the shooter vulnerable.
The longer it takes to reload, the longer that shooter is vulnerable
I ran the pistol range for my unit's officers in the Army because I had shot match in my reserve unit. EVERY single officer was flinching from the recoil of the M-1911A1s we used in those days. The all complained that the pistols were inaccurate. I told them to give me the pistol they thought was the worst and put seven rounds in the head of a target at 10 meters in rapid fire. I then told them what they were doing wrong and played the game where I'd load the pistol with either an empty mag or a loaded one until they stopped flinching as they pulled the trigger. After that they could all match my score, but they shot at center of mass rather than the showy head shots I used as a demonstration. Recoil isn't an obstacle to accurate shooting unless you are either poorly trained or trying to shoot something like a M-2 fifty caliber machine gun offhand which I don't recommend.Sensitivity to recoil can cause a flinch, which can affect accuracy. I only (used to) think about when shooting targets. When I shoot a deer I never think about it, or even feel it. In Army 'train fire' you shoot so much that you get used to it. I shot "Expert" twice with the M14, and recoil didn't bother me at all.
Training that you propose generally sucks! There is no one shooting back! You have to develop a mindset of no fear to get the job done. I volunteered training special ops troops in urban combat. They are trained to shoot back while being shot at! Some of them are outstanding shots, hitting me in the left hand with their first shot so my weapon is very difficult to shoot accurately. Of course, that is usually followed by several shots center mass and a head shot, especially if I am exposed, which I try not to happen.And this is why I do advocate for training for those that want to own firearms responsibly. There are idiots out there, I think every gun owner in America can agree to that point. There is a lot to think about when it comes to either mandatory training or involuntary training. Perhaps involuntary training could allow for the owner for better protection legally, or greater penalties if they break laws that were outlined in training.
I thought CCW training was great. Not only did it focus on the how, but more importantly the legal ramification of carrying and if the situation arises that protection is needed. If anything, I think owners should understand and be educated on the legal ramifications and laws, both state and federal. And maybe that type of training can be instituted and if gun ownership is a right, that training can be a tax deduction or costs paid through some other means.
In a “target rich environment” like a mall or a school the recoil on an AR is so slight it would hardly matter. Pray and spray.Aim is NOT affected by recoil unless you are an idiot who is pulling the trigger as fast as you can. Even with an AR-15, you have to reacquire your sight alignment after a shot and the AR-15 has a very minor recoil.
So you are ignoring all the magazine fed shotguns I posted. Why am I not surprised. You always ignore FACTS that don't agree with your OPINIONS.In a “target rich environment” like a mall or a school the recoil on an AR is so slight it would hardly matter. Pray and spray.
Do that with a shotgun and you are all over the place. Ceilings floor walls. And you’re empty after six shots at best.
Reloading takes time so you’re vulnerable that whole time
With an AR you can put those shots pretty much where you want them because there is so little recoil. Not to mention how many more shots you have or how quickly you can reload
How many of those weapons are in circulation?So you are ignoring all the magazine fed shotguns I posted. Why am I not surprised. You always ignore FACTS that don't agree with your OPINIONS.
A lot and many. Of the twelve listed nine have STANDARD magazines holding more than six rounds and the other three have extended magazines available.How many of those weapons are in circulation?
How many hold more than 6 rounds ?
How many black people did Rittenhouse shoot?Rittenhouse wanted to be Batman. Vigilanti.
You are SO good and finding new and unusual ways to be wrongYou guys say if the constitution doesn’t mention something specifically, it can’t be unconstitutional. Arms doesn’t mean you can have a pew pew gun. Too deadly
Until that happens:If society keeps getting more fucked up, we may need more regulations. More amendments.
Another idiot speaks.Empty a magazine from an AR and then fire six rounds from a shotgun. Fire both as fast as you can and count the hits.
The AR with almost no kick is going have way more hits than the shotgun.
Now reload. That shotgun is going to take a LOT longer loading one shell at a time than hitting a button to drop the mag in the AR and slamming another 30 round (or more) mag on place.
Another idiot speaks.What horse shit. Aim is always affected by recoil.
.... and he dropped the mag.And I remind you that I’m the case of Gabby Giffords the shooter was ONLY overcome because he was reloading....
Another idiot speaks.So your contention is that a 12 ga shotgun has the same lock as an AR?
Really?
Another idiot speaks.Can she fire 6 shots rapidly and accurately?
Because you don't have any idea what you;re talking about.I’m calling bullshit on that
Another idiot speaks.“Reacquire your target..”
Another idiot speaks.
Follow-up shots are affected by recoil,.
Unless, like you, someone is afraid if recoil.
.... and he dropped the mag.
What does this prove to you?
