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then why dont you just give them the houses or finance them to the renters???its perfectly fair cause anyone can be a landlord or buy a house and not rent,,,The idea that some people buying a home causes prices to go up while others buying them doesn't cause a price increase is the ultimate horseshit. You seem to forget that more houses can be built, and the money to build them comes from landlords who buy them. I could spend all day showing how stupid your theories about the real estate market are, but that should be sufficient for people to ignore your idiocy.They are buying with the good credit they earned and are providing housing for someone else. It is a transaction both parties consent to and benefit from. If it were not something that was wanted by many people they would not waste their time to acquire it.When landlords buy rental properties, they are not providing anything,
They are not building the houses, so are not providing anything.
They are competing unfairly for the existing limited housing, so are the cause of housing being twice what they should be, and unaffordable.
It is landlords who cause people to have to rent.
I know because I am a land lord, and I do my own taxes.
Wrong.
Landlord never build single family homes, and rarely build anything.
The only thing landlords ever build is multi family apartment buildings, and likely that would better be a function of government, not landlords.
The point you are ignoring is that since landlords get better tax breaks and have better credit ratings, they can always beat out individual home buyers who simply want a place to live.
It is very unfair, and doubles the cost of housing.
We could fix it by allowing reasonable tax write offs to home owners who also occupy.
No, if you ever tried to get a mortgage, you would know how hard it is for a renter, but how easy it is for a landlord.
The banks are very discriminatory, not to mention tax laws greatly benefitting landlords.
I don't pay for any of my rental properties.
The tenants buy them for me entirely.
What would make you happy? Hanging them from trees?
I have rich people in my family. I'm not Karl Marx.
Karl Marx was wealthy.
He was trying to figure out how to deal with the fact the industrial revolution was destroying cottage industries, that was then causing massive loss of rights and freedom.
It was causing economic slavery.
We had in the US around the turn of the century, company towns.
But anti trust laws and unions proved to be the solutions.
Karl Marx was wealthy.
Link?
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His father, as a child known as Herschel, was the first in the line to receive a secular education. He became a lawyer with a comfortably upper middle class income and the family owned a number of Moselle vineyards, in addition to his income as an attorney. Prior to his son's birth and after the abrogation of Jewish emancipation in the Rhineland,[25] Herschel converted from Judaism to join the state Evangelical Church of Prussia, taking on the German forename Heinrich over the Yiddish Herschel.
Largely non-religious, Heinrich was a man of the Enlightenment, interested in the ideas of the philosophers Immanuel Kant and Voltaire. A classical liberal, he took part in agitation for a constitution and reforms in Prussia, which was then an absolute monarchy.[29] In 1815, Heinrich Marx began working as an attorney and in 1819 moved his family to a ten-room property near the Porta Nigra.[30] His wife, Henriette Pressburg, was a Dutch Jewish woman from a prosperous business family that later founded the company Philips Electronics. Her sister Sophie Pressburg (1797–1854) married Lion Philips (1794–1866) and was the grandmother of both Gerard and Anton Philips and great-grandmother to Frits Philips. Lion Philips was a wealthy Dutch tobacco manufacturer and industrialist, upon whom Karl and Jenny Marx would later often come to rely for loans while they were exiled in London.
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Marx was privately educated by his father until 1830, when he entered Trier High School (Gymnasium zu Trier [de]), whose headmaster, Hugo Wyttenbach, was a friend of his father. By employing many liberal humanists as teachers, Wyttenbach incurred the anger of the local conservative government. Subsequently, police raided the school in 1832 and discovered that literature espousing political liberalism was being distributed among the students. Considering the distribution of such material a seditious act, the authorities instituted reforms and replaced several staff during Marx's attendance.[35]
In October 1835 at the age of 17, Marx travelled to the University of Bonn wishing to study philosophy and literature, but his father insisted on law as a more practical field.[36] Due to a condition referred to as a "weak chest",[37] Marx was excused from military duty when he turned 18. While at the University at Bonn, Marx joined the Poets' Club, a group containing political radicals that were monitored by the police.[38] Marx also joined the Trier Tavern Club drinking society (German: Landsmannschaft der Treveraner) where many ideas were discussed and at one point he served as the club's co-president.[39][40] Additionally, Marx was involved in certain disputes, some of which became serious: in August 1836 he took part in a duel with a member of the university's Borussian Korps.[41] Although his grades in the first term were good, they soon deteriorated, leading his father to force a transfer to the more serious and academic University of Berlin.
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Spending summer and autumn 1836 in Trier, Marx became more serious about his studies and his life. He became engaged to Jenny von Westphalen, an educated member of the petty nobility who had known Marx since childhood. As she had broken off her engagement with a young aristocrat to be with Marx, their relationship was socially controversial owing to the differences between their religious and class origins, but Marx befriended her father Ludwig von Westphalen (a liberal aristocrat) and later dedicated his doctoral thesis to him.[43] Seven years after their engagement, on 19 June 1843, they married in a Protestant church in Kreuznach.[44]
In October 1836, Marx arrived in Berlin, matriculating in the university's faculty of law and renting a room in the Mittelstrasse.[45] During the first term, Marx attended lectures of Eduard Gans (who represented the progressive Hegelian standpoint, elaborated on rational development in history by emphasising particularly its libertarian aspects, and the importance of social question) and of Karl von Savigny (who represented the Historical School of Law).[46] Although studying law, he was fascinated by philosophy and looked for a way to combine the two, believing that "without philosophy nothing could be accomplished".[47] Marx became interested in the recently deceased German philosopher Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, whose ideas were then widely debated among European philosophical circles.[48] During a convalescence in Stralau, he joined the Doctor's Club (Doktorklub), a student group which discussed Hegelian ideas, and through them became involved with a group of radical thinkers known as the Young Hegelians in 1837. They gathered around Ludwig Feuerbach and Bruno Bauer, with Marx developing a particularly close friendship with Adolf Rutenberg. Like Marx, the Young Hegelians were critical of Hegel's metaphysical assumptions, but adopted his dialectical method to criticise established society, politics and religion from a leftist perspective
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By 1837, Marx was writing both fiction and non-fiction, having completed a short novel, Scorpion and Felix, a drama, Oulanem, as well as a number of love poems dedicated to Jenny von Westphalen, though none of this early work was published during his lifetime.[52] Marx soon abandoned fiction for other pursuits, including the study of both English and Italian, art history and the translation of Latin classics.[53] He began co-operating with Bruno Bauer on editing Hegel's Philosophy of Religion in 1840. Marx was also engaged in writing his doctoral thesis, The Difference Between the Democritean and Epicurean Philosophy of Nature,[54] which he completed in 1841. It was described as "a daring and original piece of work in which Marx set out to show that theology must yield to the superior wisdom of philosophy".[55] The essay was controversial, particularly among the conservative professors at the University of Berlin. Marx decided instead to submit his thesis to the more liberal University of Jena, whose faculty awarded him his PhD in April 1841.[56][2] As Marx and Bauer were both atheists,
...}
Karl Marx - Wikipedia
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I would describe that as upper middle class, or lower upper class.
Average people could not afford to get a Phd back then.
Thanks for showing that Heinrich Marx was wealthy.
Were you trying to show that Karl was wealthy?
From your link.... In the early period in London, Marx committed himself almost exclusively to revolutionary activities, such that his family endured extreme poverty.[143][144] His main source of income was Engels, whose own source was his wealthy industrialist father
This guy kills me. Never has someone so ignorant displayed his lack of knowledge so profusely.They are buying with the good credit they earned and are providing housing for someone else. It is a transaction both parties consent to and benefit from. If it were not something that was wanted by many people they would not waste their time to acquire it.When landlords buy rental properties, they are not providing anything,
They are not building the houses, so are not providing anything.
They are competing unfairly for the existing limited housing, so are the cause of housing being twice what they should be, and unaffordable.
It is landlords who cause people to have to rent.
I know because I am a land lord, and I do my own taxes.
They are not building the houses, so are not providing anything.
If they aren't providing a good or service, they'd have no customers.
They are competing unfairly for the existing limited housing, so are the cause of housing being twice what they should be
That's hilarious!
You mean other rich ripping off other richThey want to take from the rich until everyone is poor.Why don’t you tell us?Surely something, right? I see a lot of people talk like taxes are theft. Is it not just our obligation?
They are buying with the good credit they earned and are providing housing for someone else. It is a transaction both parties consent to and benefit from. If it were not something that was wanted by many people they would not waste their time to acquire it.When landlords buy rental properties, they are not providing anything,
They are not building the houses, so are not providing anything.
They are competing unfairly for the existing limited housing, so are the cause of housing being twice what they should be, and unaffordable.
It is landlords who cause people to have to rent.
I know because I am a land lord, and I do my own taxes.
They are not building the houses, so are not providing anything.
If they aren't providing a good or service, they'd have no customers.
They are competing unfairly for the existing limited housing, so are the cause of housing being twice what they should be
That's hilarious!
Landlords have customers because they buy up the limited resources.
Its called a monopoly.
Landlords have customers because they buy up the limited resources.
Yes, they're providing use of a limited resource.
Its called a monopoly.
You must have a unique definition of monopoly.
Can you share it here?
Absolutely nothing. They our their family created their wealth by their own hard work and ingenuity. When people are taxed to support the lame and lazy, then those people who do nothing own a part of you and what you created. But in our already socialist (soon to become Marxist under President Harris) nation this has already happened.Surely something, right? I see a lot of people talk like taxes are theft. Is it not just our obligation?
then why dont you just give them the houses or finance them to the renters???its perfectly fair cause anyone can be a landlord or buy a house and not rent,,,The idea that some people buying a home causes prices to go up while others buying them doesn't cause a price increase is the ultimate horseshit. You seem to forget that more houses can be built, and the money to build them comes from landlords who buy them. I could spend all day showing how stupid your theories about the real estate market are, but that should be sufficient for people to ignore your idiocy.They are buying with the good credit they earned and are providing housing for someone else. It is a transaction both parties consent to and benefit from. If it were not something that was wanted by many people they would not waste their time to acquire it.When landlords buy rental properties, they are not providing anything,
They are not building the houses, so are not providing anything.
They are competing unfairly for the existing limited housing, so are the cause of housing being twice what they should be, and unaffordable.
It is landlords who cause people to have to rent.
I know because I am a land lord, and I do my own taxes.
Wrong.
Landlord never build single family homes, and rarely build anything.
The only thing landlords ever build is multi family apartment buildings, and likely that would better be a function of government, not landlords.
The point you are ignoring is that since landlords get better tax breaks and have better credit ratings, they can always beat out individual home buyers who simply want a place to live.
It is very unfair, and doubles the cost of housing.
We could fix it by allowing reasonable tax write offs to home owners who also occupy.
No, if you ever tried to get a mortgage, you would know how hard it is for a renter, but how easy it is for a landlord.
The banks are very discriminatory, not to mention tax laws greatly benefitting landlords.
I don't pay for any of my rental properties.
The tenants buy them for me entirely.
the solution is yours to make not the governments,,
I just got 2 mortgages and never went to a bank,,,
you are aware, I am sure, that landlord is not a term that qualifies one for a loan?its perfectly fair cause anyone can be a landlord or buy a house and not rent,,,The idea that some people buying a home causes prices to go up while others buying them doesn't cause a price increase is the ultimate horseshit. You seem to forget that more houses can be built, and the money to build them comes from landlords who buy them. I could spend all day showing how stupid your theories about the real estate market are, but that should be sufficient for people to ignore your idiocy.They are buying with the good credit they earned and are providing housing for someone else. It is a transaction both parties consent to and benefit from. If it were not something that was wanted by many people they would not waste their time to acquire it.When landlords buy rental properties, they are not providing anything,
They are not building the houses, so are not providing anything.
They are competing unfairly for the existing limited housing, so are the cause of housing being twice what they should be, and unaffordable.
It is landlords who cause people to have to rent.
I know because I am a land lord, and I do my own taxes.
Wrong.
Landlord never build single family homes, and rarely build anything.
The only thing landlords ever build is multi family apartment buildings, and likely that would better be a function of government, not landlords.
The point you are ignoring is that since landlords get better tax breaks and have better credit ratings, they can always beat out individual home buyers who simply want a place to live.
It is very unfair, and doubles the cost of housing.
We could fix it by allowing reasonable tax write offs to home owners who also occupy.
No, if you ever tried to get a mortgage, you would know how hard it is for a renter, but how easy it is for a landlord.
The banks are very discriminatory, not to mention tax laws greatly benefitting landlords.
I don't pay for any of my rental properties.
The tenants buy them for me entirely.
Then there is none! It’s one of those oxy moron things demofks can’t grasp. You must define fair. For instance, is it fair for some folks lounging around all their lives receiving money from those who work their asses off? AnswerWhy don’t you tell us?
Despite what you may believe I don't actually have all of the answers.
Then buy a home and quit your bitching about paying rent.They are buying with the good credit they earned and are providing housing for someone else. It is a transaction both parties consent to and benefit from. If it were not something that was wanted by many people they would not waste their time to acquire it.When landlords buy rental properties, they are not providing anything,
They are not building the houses, so are not providing anything.
They are competing unfairly for the existing limited housing, so are the cause of housing being twice what they should be, and unaffordable.
It is landlords who cause people to have to rent.
I know because I am a land lord, and I do my own taxes.
They are not building the houses, so are not providing anything.
If they aren't providing a good or service, they'd have no customers.
They are competing unfairly for the existing limited housing, so are the cause of housing being twice what they should be
That's hilarious!
Landlords have customers because they buy up the limited resources.
Its called a monopoly.
Landlords have customers because they buy up the limited resources.
Yes, they're providing use of a limited resource.
Its called a monopoly.
You must have a unique definition of monopoly.
Can you share it here?
Landlord monopolies are ancient.
Why do you think they are called "landLORDS"?
Originally is was by government edict.
Now it is by corrupt tax laws and bank collusion.
If you think a monopoly can only be when there is a single entity, that is wrong.
For example, insurance companies can illegally collude to collectively price fix.
That is also a type of monopoly.
When landlords outbid and prevent people from being able to buy their own home and instead have to rent, the landords are not providing anything.
Anyone who can pay rent, should be able to afford their own home.
It is only unscrupulous landlords who prevent that.
I know the tax laws that make that happen, because I am a landlord and do my own taxes.
LOL.... You are what you hate. You just can't make this stuff up.because I am a landlord and do my own taxes.
So you don’t own your car when you pay for it, because you didn’t build it? Then you own nothingWhen landlords buy rental properties, they are not providing anything, because they are not building the property
that all depends on whos loaning you the money and the conditions set in the contract,,then why dont you just give them the houses or finance them to the renters???its perfectly fair cause anyone can be a landlord or buy a house and not rent,,,The idea that some people buying a home causes prices to go up while others buying them doesn't cause a price increase is the ultimate horseshit. You seem to forget that more houses can be built, and the money to build them comes from landlords who buy them. I could spend all day showing how stupid your theories about the real estate market are, but that should be sufficient for people to ignore your idiocy.They are buying with the good credit they earned and are providing housing for someone else. It is a transaction both parties consent to and benefit from. If it were not something that was wanted by many people they would not waste their time to acquire it.When landlords buy rental properties, they are not providing anything,
They are not building the houses, so are not providing anything.
They are competing unfairly for the existing limited housing, so are the cause of housing being twice what they should be, and unaffordable.
It is landlords who cause people to have to rent.
I know because I am a land lord, and I do my own taxes.
Wrong.
Landlord never build single family homes, and rarely build anything.
The only thing landlords ever build is multi family apartment buildings, and likely that would better be a function of government, not landlords.
The point you are ignoring is that since landlords get better tax breaks and have better credit ratings, they can always beat out individual home buyers who simply want a place to live.
It is very unfair, and doubles the cost of housing.
We could fix it by allowing reasonable tax write offs to home owners who also occupy.
No, if you ever tried to get a mortgage, you would know how hard it is for a renter, but how easy it is for a landlord.
The banks are very discriminatory, not to mention tax laws greatly benefitting landlords.
I don't pay for any of my rental properties.
The tenants buy them for me entirely.
the solution is yours to make not the governments,,
I just got 2 mortgages and never went to a bank,,,you are aware, I am sure, that landlord is not a term that qualifies one for a loan?its perfectly fair cause anyone can be a landlord or buy a house and not rent,,,The idea that some people buying a home causes prices to go up while others buying them doesn't cause a price increase is the ultimate horseshit. You seem to forget that more houses can be built, and the money to build them comes from landlords who buy them. I could spend all day showing how stupid your theories about the real estate market are, but that should be sufficient for people to ignore your idiocy.They are buying with the good credit they earned and are providing housing for someone else. It is a transaction both parties consent to and benefit from. If it were not something that was wanted by many people they would not waste their time to acquire it.When landlords buy rental properties, they are not providing anything,
They are not building the houses, so are not providing anything.
They are competing unfairly for the existing limited housing, so are the cause of housing being twice what they should be, and unaffordable.
It is landlords who cause people to have to rent.
I know because I am a land lord, and I do my own taxes.
Wrong.
Landlord never build single family homes, and rarely build anything.
The only thing landlords ever build is multi family apartment buildings, and likely that would better be a function of government, not landlords.
The point you are ignoring is that since landlords get better tax breaks and have better credit ratings, they can always beat out individual home buyers who simply want a place to live.
It is very unfair, and doubles the cost of housing.
We could fix it by allowing reasonable tax write offs to home owners who also occupy.
No, if you ever tried to get a mortgage, you would know how hard it is for a renter, but how easy it is for a landlord.
The banks are very discriminatory, not to mention tax laws greatly benefitting landlords.
I don't pay for any of my rental properties.
The tenants buy them for me entirely.
Landlord is a a common term used by the public and inserted into rental contracts for identification purposes and usually is inserted with the disclosure saying "from here now referred to as the landlord" in the rental contract (lease).....but in no way is the term landlord used as a means to determine ones financial credibility for an underwriter at a lending institution.
Just wanted to make sure you know what you are talking about. Just an FYI....if you put "landlord" as your means of income on a loan application, you will not get the loan.
That is fact.
Then there is none! It’s one of those oxy moron things demofks can’t grasp. You must define fair. For instance, is it fair for some folks lounging around all their lives receiving money from those who work their asses off? Answer
What would make you happy? Hanging them from trees?
I have rich people in my family. I'm not Karl Marx.
Karl Marx was wealthy.
He was trying to figure out how to deal with the fact the industrial revolution was destroying cottage industries, that was then causing massive loss of rights and freedom.
It was causing economic slavery.
We had in the US around the turn of the century, company towns.
But anti trust laws and unions proved to be the solutions.
Karl Marx was wealthy.
Link?
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His father, as a child known as Herschel, was the first in the line to receive a secular education. He became a lawyer with a comfortably upper middle class income and the family owned a number of Moselle vineyards, in addition to his income as an attorney. Prior to his son's birth and after the abrogation of Jewish emancipation in the Rhineland,[25] Herschel converted from Judaism to join the state Evangelical Church of Prussia, taking on the German forename Heinrich over the Yiddish Herschel.
Largely non-religious, Heinrich was a man of the Enlightenment, interested in the ideas of the philosophers Immanuel Kant and Voltaire. A classical liberal, he took part in agitation for a constitution and reforms in Prussia, which was then an absolute monarchy.[29] In 1815, Heinrich Marx began working as an attorney and in 1819 moved his family to a ten-room property near the Porta Nigra.[30] His wife, Henriette Pressburg, was a Dutch Jewish woman from a prosperous business family that later founded the company Philips Electronics. Her sister Sophie Pressburg (1797–1854) married Lion Philips (1794–1866) and was the grandmother of both Gerard and Anton Philips and great-grandmother to Frits Philips. Lion Philips was a wealthy Dutch tobacco manufacturer and industrialist, upon whom Karl and Jenny Marx would later often come to rely for loans while they were exiled in London.
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Marx was privately educated by his father until 1830, when he entered Trier High School (Gymnasium zu Trier [de]), whose headmaster, Hugo Wyttenbach, was a friend of his father. By employing many liberal humanists as teachers, Wyttenbach incurred the anger of the local conservative government. Subsequently, police raided the school in 1832 and discovered that literature espousing political liberalism was being distributed among the students. Considering the distribution of such material a seditious act, the authorities instituted reforms and replaced several staff during Marx's attendance.[35]
In October 1835 at the age of 17, Marx travelled to the University of Bonn wishing to study philosophy and literature, but his father insisted on law as a more practical field.[36] Due to a condition referred to as a "weak chest",[37] Marx was excused from military duty when he turned 18. While at the University at Bonn, Marx joined the Poets' Club, a group containing political radicals that were monitored by the police.[38] Marx also joined the Trier Tavern Club drinking society (German: Landsmannschaft der Treveraner) where many ideas were discussed and at one point he served as the club's co-president.[39][40] Additionally, Marx was involved in certain disputes, some of which became serious: in August 1836 he took part in a duel with a member of the university's Borussian Korps.[41] Although his grades in the first term were good, they soon deteriorated, leading his father to force a transfer to the more serious and academic University of Berlin.
...
Spending summer and autumn 1836 in Trier, Marx became more serious about his studies and his life. He became engaged to Jenny von Westphalen, an educated member of the petty nobility who had known Marx since childhood. As she had broken off her engagement with a young aristocrat to be with Marx, their relationship was socially controversial owing to the differences between their religious and class origins, but Marx befriended her father Ludwig von Westphalen (a liberal aristocrat) and later dedicated his doctoral thesis to him.[43] Seven years after their engagement, on 19 June 1843, they married in a Protestant church in Kreuznach.[44]
In October 1836, Marx arrived in Berlin, matriculating in the university's faculty of law and renting a room in the Mittelstrasse.[45] During the first term, Marx attended lectures of Eduard Gans (who represented the progressive Hegelian standpoint, elaborated on rational development in history by emphasising particularly its libertarian aspects, and the importance of social question) and of Karl von Savigny (who represented the Historical School of Law).[46] Although studying law, he was fascinated by philosophy and looked for a way to combine the two, believing that "without philosophy nothing could be accomplished".[47] Marx became interested in the recently deceased German philosopher Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, whose ideas were then widely debated among European philosophical circles.[48] During a convalescence in Stralau, he joined the Doctor's Club (Doktorklub), a student group which discussed Hegelian ideas, and through them became involved with a group of radical thinkers known as the Young Hegelians in 1837. They gathered around Ludwig Feuerbach and Bruno Bauer, with Marx developing a particularly close friendship with Adolf Rutenberg. Like Marx, the Young Hegelians were critical of Hegel's metaphysical assumptions, but adopted his dialectical method to criticise established society, politics and religion from a leftist perspective
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By 1837, Marx was writing both fiction and non-fiction, having completed a short novel, Scorpion and Felix, a drama, Oulanem, as well as a number of love poems dedicated to Jenny von Westphalen, though none of this early work was published during his lifetime.[52] Marx soon abandoned fiction for other pursuits, including the study of both English and Italian, art history and the translation of Latin classics.[53] He began co-operating with Bruno Bauer on editing Hegel's Philosophy of Religion in 1840. Marx was also engaged in writing his doctoral thesis, The Difference Between the Democritean and Epicurean Philosophy of Nature,[54] which he completed in 1841. It was described as "a daring and original piece of work in which Marx set out to show that theology must yield to the superior wisdom of philosophy".[55] The essay was controversial, particularly among the conservative professors at the University of Berlin. Marx decided instead to submit his thesis to the more liberal University of Jena, whose faculty awarded him his PhD in April 1841.[56][2] As Marx and Bauer were both atheists,
...}
Karl Marx - Wikipedia
I would describe that as upper middle class, or lower upper class.
Average people could not afford to get a Phd back then.
Thanks for showing that Heinrich Marx was wealthy.
Were you trying to show that Karl was wealthy?
From your link.... In the early period in London, Marx committed himself almost exclusively to revolutionary activities, such that his family endured extreme poverty.[143][144] His main source of income was Engels, whose own source was his wealthy industrialist father
He started wealthy, and could have maintained that if he had wanted to.
He had the degrees, education, contacts, etc., so he could have maintained wealth.
It was the moral and ethical dilemmas that caused him to prefer poverty.
youre the one having the problem with reality,,Then there is none! It’s one of those oxy moron things demofks can’t grasp. You must define fair. For instance, is it fair for some folks lounging around all their lives receiving money from those who work their asses off? Answer
Reality is too subjective and complicated for me to tell you what is objectively fair.
They call that a giveawayLOL.... You are what you hate. You just can't make this stuff up.because I am a landlord and do my own taxes.
Why not sell your property (cheap) to someone who "can't afford it"?
So in other words you have zero insight on how underwriters operate and how they are regulated.that all depends on whos loaning you the money and the conditions set in the contract,,then why dont you just give them the houses or finance them to the renters???its perfectly fair cause anyone can be a landlord or buy a house and not rent,,,The idea that some people buying a home causes prices to go up while others buying them doesn't cause a price increase is the ultimate horseshit. You seem to forget that more houses can be built, and the money to build them comes from landlords who buy them. I could spend all day showing how stupid your theories about the real estate market are, but that should be sufficient for people to ignore your idiocy.They are buying with the good credit they earned and are providing housing for someone else. It is a transaction both parties consent to and benefit from. If it were not something that was wanted by many people they would not waste their time to acquire it.When landlords buy rental properties, they are not providing anything,
They are not building the houses, so are not providing anything.
They are competing unfairly for the existing limited housing, so are the cause of housing being twice what they should be, and unaffordable.
It is landlords who cause people to have to rent.
I know because I am a land lord, and I do my own taxes.
Wrong.
Landlord never build single family homes, and rarely build anything.
The only thing landlords ever build is multi family apartment buildings, and likely that would better be a function of government, not landlords.
The point you are ignoring is that since landlords get better tax breaks and have better credit ratings, they can always beat out individual home buyers who simply want a place to live.
It is very unfair, and doubles the cost of housing.
We could fix it by allowing reasonable tax write offs to home owners who also occupy.
No, if you ever tried to get a mortgage, you would know how hard it is for a renter, but how easy it is for a landlord.
The banks are very discriminatory, not to mention tax laws greatly benefitting landlords.
I don't pay for any of my rental properties.
The tenants buy them for me entirely.
the solution is yours to make not the governments,,
I just got 2 mortgages and never went to a bank,,,you are aware, I am sure, that landlord is not a term that qualifies one for a loan?its perfectly fair cause anyone can be a landlord or buy a house and not rent,,,The idea that some people buying a home causes prices to go up while others buying them doesn't cause a price increase is the ultimate horseshit. You seem to forget that more houses can be built, and the money to build them comes from landlords who buy them. I could spend all day showing how stupid your theories about the real estate market are, but that should be sufficient for people to ignore your idiocy.They are buying with the good credit they earned and are providing housing for someone else. It is a transaction both parties consent to and benefit from. If it were not something that was wanted by many people they would not waste their time to acquire it.When landlords buy rental properties, they are not providing anything,
They are not building the houses, so are not providing anything.
They are competing unfairly for the existing limited housing, so are the cause of housing being twice what they should be, and unaffordable.
It is landlords who cause people to have to rent.
I know because I am a land lord, and I do my own taxes.
Wrong.
Landlord never build single family homes, and rarely build anything.
The only thing landlords ever build is multi family apartment buildings, and likely that would better be a function of government, not landlords.
The point you are ignoring is that since landlords get better tax breaks and have better credit ratings, they can always beat out individual home buyers who simply want a place to live.
It is very unfair, and doubles the cost of housing.
We could fix it by allowing reasonable tax write offs to home owners who also occupy.
No, if you ever tried to get a mortgage, you would know how hard it is for a renter, but how easy it is for a landlord.
The banks are very discriminatory, not to mention tax laws greatly benefitting landlords.
I don't pay for any of my rental properties.
The tenants buy them for me entirely.
Landlord is a a common term used by the public and inserted into rental contracts for identification purposes and usually is inserted with the disclosure saying "from here now referred to as the landlord" in the rental contract (lease).....but in no way is the term landlord used as a means to determine ones financial credibility for an underwriter at a lending institution.
Just wanted to make sure you know what you are talking about. Just an FYI....if you put "landlord" as your means of income on a loan application, you will not get the loan.
That is fact.
The term "objectively fair" is an oxymoron.Then there is none! It’s one of those oxy moron things demofks can’t grasp. You must define fair. For instance, is it fair for some folks lounging around all their lives receiving money from those who work their asses off? Answer
Reality is too subjective and complicated for me to tell you what is objectively fair.
Then you have no point here!Then there is none! It’s one of those oxy moron things demofks can’t grasp. You must define fair. For instance, is it fair for some folks lounging around all their lives receiving money from those who work their asses off? Answer
Reality is too subjective and complicated for me to tell you what is objectively fair.
wow!What would make you happy? Hanging them from trees?
I have rich people in my family. I'm not Karl Marx.
Karl Marx was wealthy.
He was trying to figure out how to deal with the fact the industrial revolution was destroying cottage industries, that was then causing massive loss of rights and freedom.
It was causing economic slavery.
We had in the US around the turn of the century, company towns.
But anti trust laws and unions proved to be the solutions.
Karl Marx was wealthy.
Link?
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His father, as a child known as Herschel, was the first in the line to receive a secular education. He became a lawyer with a comfortably upper middle class income and the family owned a number of Moselle vineyards, in addition to his income as an attorney. Prior to his son's birth and after the abrogation of Jewish emancipation in the Rhineland,[25] Herschel converted from Judaism to join the state Evangelical Church of Prussia, taking on the German forename Heinrich over the Yiddish Herschel.
Largely non-religious, Heinrich was a man of the Enlightenment, interested in the ideas of the philosophers Immanuel Kant and Voltaire. A classical liberal, he took part in agitation for a constitution and reforms in Prussia, which was then an absolute monarchy.[29] In 1815, Heinrich Marx began working as an attorney and in 1819 moved his family to a ten-room property near the Porta Nigra.[30] His wife, Henriette Pressburg, was a Dutch Jewish woman from a prosperous business family that later founded the company Philips Electronics. Her sister Sophie Pressburg (1797–1854) married Lion Philips (1794–1866) and was the grandmother of both Gerard and Anton Philips and great-grandmother to Frits Philips. Lion Philips was a wealthy Dutch tobacco manufacturer and industrialist, upon whom Karl and Jenny Marx would later often come to rely for loans while they were exiled in London.
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Marx was privately educated by his father until 1830, when he entered Trier High School (Gymnasium zu Trier [de]), whose headmaster, Hugo Wyttenbach, was a friend of his father. By employing many liberal humanists as teachers, Wyttenbach incurred the anger of the local conservative government. Subsequently, police raided the school in 1832 and discovered that literature espousing political liberalism was being distributed among the students. Considering the distribution of such material a seditious act, the authorities instituted reforms and replaced several staff during Marx's attendance.[35]
In October 1835 at the age of 17, Marx travelled to the University of Bonn wishing to study philosophy and literature, but his father insisted on law as a more practical field.[36] Due to a condition referred to as a "weak chest",[37] Marx was excused from military duty when he turned 18. While at the University at Bonn, Marx joined the Poets' Club, a group containing political radicals that were monitored by the police.[38] Marx also joined the Trier Tavern Club drinking society (German: Landsmannschaft der Treveraner) where many ideas were discussed and at one point he served as the club's co-president.[39][40] Additionally, Marx was involved in certain disputes, some of which became serious: in August 1836 he took part in a duel with a member of the university's Borussian Korps.[41] Although his grades in the first term were good, they soon deteriorated, leading his father to force a transfer to the more serious and academic University of Berlin.
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Spending summer and autumn 1836 in Trier, Marx became more serious about his studies and his life. He became engaged to Jenny von Westphalen, an educated member of the petty nobility who had known Marx since childhood. As she had broken off her engagement with a young aristocrat to be with Marx, their relationship was socially controversial owing to the differences between their religious and class origins, but Marx befriended her father Ludwig von Westphalen (a liberal aristocrat) and later dedicated his doctoral thesis to him.[43] Seven years after their engagement, on 19 June 1843, they married in a Protestant church in Kreuznach.[44]
In October 1836, Marx arrived in Berlin, matriculating in the university's faculty of law and renting a room in the Mittelstrasse.[45] During the first term, Marx attended lectures of Eduard Gans (who represented the progressive Hegelian standpoint, elaborated on rational development in history by emphasising particularly its libertarian aspects, and the importance of social question) and of Karl von Savigny (who represented the Historical School of Law).[46] Although studying law, he was fascinated by philosophy and looked for a way to combine the two, believing that "without philosophy nothing could be accomplished".[47] Marx became interested in the recently deceased German philosopher Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, whose ideas were then widely debated among European philosophical circles.[48] During a convalescence in Stralau, he joined the Doctor's Club (Doktorklub), a student group which discussed Hegelian ideas, and through them became involved with a group of radical thinkers known as the Young Hegelians in 1837. They gathered around Ludwig Feuerbach and Bruno Bauer, with Marx developing a particularly close friendship with Adolf Rutenberg. Like Marx, the Young Hegelians were critical of Hegel's metaphysical assumptions, but adopted his dialectical method to criticise established society, politics and religion from a leftist perspective
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By 1837, Marx was writing both fiction and non-fiction, having completed a short novel, Scorpion and Felix, a drama, Oulanem, as well as a number of love poems dedicated to Jenny von Westphalen, though none of this early work was published during his lifetime.[52] Marx soon abandoned fiction for other pursuits, including the study of both English and Italian, art history and the translation of Latin classics.[53] He began co-operating with Bruno Bauer on editing Hegel's Philosophy of Religion in 1840. Marx was also engaged in writing his doctoral thesis, The Difference Between the Democritean and Epicurean Philosophy of Nature,[54] which he completed in 1841. It was described as "a daring and original piece of work in which Marx set out to show that theology must yield to the superior wisdom of philosophy".[55] The essay was controversial, particularly among the conservative professors at the University of Berlin. Marx decided instead to submit his thesis to the more liberal University of Jena, whose faculty awarded him his PhD in April 1841.[56][2] As Marx and Bauer were both atheists,
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Karl Marx - Wikipedia
I would describe that as upper middle class, or lower upper class.
Average people could not afford to get a Phd back then.
Thanks for showing that Heinrich Marx was wealthy.
Were you trying to show that Karl was wealthy?
From your link.... In the early period in London, Marx committed himself almost exclusively to revolutionary activities, such that his family endured extreme poverty.[143][144] His main source of income was Engels, whose own source was his wealthy industrialist father
He started wealthy, and could have maintained that if he had wanted to.
He had the degrees, education, contacts, etc., so he could have maintained wealth.
It was the moral and ethical dilemmas that caused him to prefer poverty.
He started wealthy, and could have maintained that if he had wanted to.
But he decided to be a whiney twat, instead.
