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Oh ok ---- what's a zero among friends?who would ever want to point out the utter incompetence of the EPA, the one that consumed $8.2 trillion in 2014?
Don't you mean a measly $8.2 BILLION?
If the EPA had spent $8.2 TRILLION in 2014 then the current debt would be around $26 trillion.
The EPA Toxic spill is worse than the BP Oil spill in 2010. It certainly affect far more people's health.
That's totally delusional. The river is already almost back to its normal badly polluted state.
And the state and locality will still actively fight being declared a superfund site, thus getting the money to start clean it up properly. They've been fighting a proper cleanup for decades, as they think it would interfere with tourism. That's what caused the mess.
The WATER may be, but heavy metals enter the sediment, and unlike petroleum products, these do not degrade via biological action, but usually only oxidize.
Crude oil also contains heavy metals!
Not in the concentrations found in mine wastes. plus, as crude oil is not miscible in water, the metals tend to stay in globs of oil, with only minimal transfer via the oil-water interface.
Mine waste is usually aqueous based, which means the dissolved and non dissolved metals can move freely in the substrate, and any non-dissolved metals can settle into the sediment far more easily.
The oil was biodegraded thus releasing all of the heavy metals into the ocean to become part of the food chain and thus ingested by humans.
That's totally delusional. The river is already almost back to its normal badly polluted state.
And the state and locality will still actively fight being declared a superfund site, thus getting the money to start clean it up properly. They've been fighting a proper cleanup for decades, as they think it would interfere with tourism. That's what caused the mess.
The WATER may be, but heavy metals enter the sediment, and unlike petroleum products, these do not degrade via biological action, but usually only oxidize.
Crude oil also contains heavy metals!
Not in the concentrations found in mine wastes. plus, as crude oil is not miscible in water, the metals tend to stay in globs of oil, with only minimal transfer via the oil-water interface.
Mine waste is usually aqueous based, which means the dissolved and non dissolved metals can move freely in the substrate, and any non-dissolved metals can settle into the sediment far more easily.
The oil was biodegraded thus releasing all of the heavy metals into the ocean to become part of the food chain and thus ingested by humans.
They were probably released slowly, and in a far more dispersed pattern than you will see deposited in a river. Also, it's not that metals are present that causes an issue, its the concentration, so the small amounts of metals in the oil, spread out over a large area, and released slowly into the aqueous substrate, is not the same as the metals being added to this river via sedimentation and precipitation due to the mine water release.
That's totally delusional. The river is already almost back to its normal badly polluted state.
And the state and locality will still actively fight being declared a superfund site, thus getting the money to start clean it up properly. They've been fighting a proper cleanup for decades, as they think it would interfere with tourism. That's what caused the mess.
The WATER may be, but heavy metals enter the sediment, and unlike petroleum products, these do not degrade via biological action, but usually only oxidize.
Crude oil also contains heavy metals!
Not in the concentrations found in mine wastes. plus, as crude oil is not miscible in water, the metals tend to stay in globs of oil, with only minimal transfer via the oil-water interface.
Mine waste is usually aqueous based, which means the dissolved and non dissolved metals can move freely in the substrate, and any non-dissolved metals can settle into the sediment far more easily.
The oil was biodegraded thus releasing all of the heavy metals into the ocean to become part of the food chain and thus ingested by humans.
They were probably released slowly, and in a far more dispersed pattern than you will see deposited in a river. Also, it's not that metals are present that causes an issue, its the concentration, so the small amounts of metals in the oil, spread out over a large area, and released slowly into the aqueous substrate, is not the same as the metals being added to this river via sedimentation and precipitation due to the mine water release.
Well we know this is always the case. The State and their media will always protect the State and attack private enterprise whenever possible. Sadly many Americans are so brainwashed they can't see the double standard.Funny how Exxon and BP were tried in the media and found guilty but the fucking idiots in the government get a passThe EPA accidentally caused the spill, reports say
Besides the single sentence in the link that the OP used where is the evidence that the EPA actually caused the spill?
Well before the fines and jail sentencing is handed out -- we can confirm all that right??
Absolutely!
But even the EPA has the right to the presumption of innocence given that the media doesn't have the greatest track record when it comes to getting the facts right.
Well, I would hope some people lost their jobs unless this was completely and provably unavoidable.Animas River Massive Waste Spill Turns River Orange
A Massive Waste Spill Turned This River in Colorado Orange
Maya Rhodan @m_rhodan Aug. 6, 2015
Jerry McBride—Durango Herald
Mine waste from the Gold King Mine north of Silverton fills the Animas River at Bakers Bridge on Aug. 6, 2015 in Durango, Colo.
The EPA accidentally caused the spill, reports say
About 1 million gallons of mine waste spilled into a Colorado waterway on Wednesday, turning the water bright orange and prompting officials to warn residents to avoid recreational use of the Animas River.
San Juan County health officials say the Environmental Protection Agency and the state Division of Reclamation, Mining and Safety were investigating
another contamination when they “unexpectedly triggered a large release of mine waste water into the upper portions of Cement Creek.” Cement Creek is a tributary of the Animas River.
By all means lets fine the EPA
and use the money for environmental cleanups
Well, I would hope some people lost their jobs unless this was completely and provably unavoidable.Animas River Massive Waste Spill Turns River Orange
A Massive Waste Spill Turned This River in Colorado Orange
Maya Rhodan @m_rhodan Aug. 6, 2015
Jerry McBride—Durango Herald
Mine waste from the Gold King Mine north of Silverton fills the Animas River at Bakers Bridge on Aug. 6, 2015 in Durango, Colo.
The EPA accidentally caused the spill, reports say
About 1 million gallons of mine waste spilled into a Colorado waterway on Wednesday, turning the water bright orange and prompting officials to warn residents to avoid recreational use of the Animas River.
San Juan County health officials say the Environmental Protection Agency and the state Division of Reclamation, Mining and Safety were investigating
another contamination when they “unexpectedly triggered a large release of mine waste water into the upper portions of Cement Creek.” Cement Creek is a tributary of the Animas River.
Well, I would hope some people lost their jobs unless this was completely and provably unavoidable.Animas River Massive Waste Spill Turns River Orange
A Massive Waste Spill Turned This River in Colorado Orange
Maya Rhodan @m_rhodan Aug. 6, 2015
Jerry McBride—Durango Herald
Mine waste from the Gold King Mine north of Silverton fills the Animas River at Bakers Bridge on Aug. 6, 2015 in Durango, Colo.
The EPA accidentally caused the spill, reports say
About 1 million gallons of mine waste spilled into a Colorado waterway on Wednesday, turning the water bright orange and prompting officials to warn residents to avoid recreational use of the Animas River.
San Juan County health officials say the Environmental Protection Agency and the state Division of Reclamation, Mining and Safety were investigating
another contamination when they “unexpectedly triggered a large release of mine waste water into the upper portions of Cement Creek.” Cement Creek is a tributary of the Animas River.
This was a totally avoidable situation.
Well, I would hope some people lost their jobs unless this was completely and provably unavoidable.Animas River Massive Waste Spill Turns River Orange
A Massive Waste Spill Turned This River in Colorado Orange
Maya Rhodan @m_rhodan Aug. 6, 2015
Jerry McBride—Durango Herald
Mine waste from the Gold King Mine north of Silverton fills the Animas River at Bakers Bridge on Aug. 6, 2015 in Durango, Colo.
The EPA accidentally caused the spill, reports say
About 1 million gallons of mine waste spilled into a Colorado waterway on Wednesday, turning the water bright orange and prompting officials to warn residents to avoid recreational use of the Animas River.
San Juan County health officials say the Environmental Protection Agency and the state Division of Reclamation, Mining and Safety were investigating
another contamination when they “unexpectedly triggered a large release of mine waste water into the upper portions of Cement Creek.” Cement Creek is a tributary of the Animas River.
This was a totally avoidable situation.
I think I saw pictures today of the containment ponds they built. There were liners and such involved,, but it looked to me like one good thunderstorm would have taken out the lips of those ponds..
I believe you're right.. Time to get your waders on and go work for the locals that will have to deal with the aftermath...
the EPA, and BLM.
When it comes to the EPA, humans are not perfect.
When it comes to BP (and the private sector), humans are perfect.
.(Washington Times) – The EPA is trying to cheat Navajo Indians by getting them to sign away their rights to future claims from the agency’s Gold King Mine disaster, tribal officials charged Wednesday, adding more to the administration’s public relations problems over the spill that threatens critical Southwest waterways.
Environmental Protection Agency officials were going door to door asking Navajos, some of whom don’t speak English as their primary language, to sign a form that offers to pay damages incurred so far from the spill, but waiving the right to come back and ask for more if their costs escalate or if they discover bigger problems, Navajo President Russell Begaye told The Washington Times.
“It is underhanded. They’re just trying to protect their pocketbook,” Mr. Begaye said in a telephone interview
The claim forms EPA officials were distributing on the Navajo reservation ask locals to estimate a dollar amount they can attribute to property damage, personal injury or wrongful death. The form warns that failing to total up the claim “may cause forfeiture of your rights.”
Mr. Begaye said many of the Navajo involved are elderly and speak Navajo as their primary language. As a result, they may have a difficult time understanding the forms and may feel pressed by the EPA to sign quickly.
He said the situation is all the more enraging because the EPA has acknowledged that the cleanup will take decades yet is pushing for Navajo to calculate their costs now and sign away their rights for the future.
JRoc ---> You'll never get Lahkota to read the "Tea Party Times". Not even for news on screwing the Indians (again)..
The EPA is trying to cheat Navajo Indians by getting them to sign away their rights to future claims from the agency’s Gold King Mine disaster, tribal officials charged Wednesday, adding more to the administration’s public relations problems over the spill that threatens critical Southwest waterways.
Environmental Protection Agency officials were going door to door asking Navajos, some of whom don’t speak English as their primary language, to sign a form that offers to pay damages incurred so far from the spill, but waiving the right to come back and ask for more if their costs escalate or if they discover bigger problems, Navajo President Russell Begaye told The Washington Times.
get rid of the epa
So when your home value and that of your neighbors is wiped out because a corporation in the neighboring state dumps toxic waste into the water table that kills off all living plants for a hundred miles what are you going to do?
Sue them.get rid of the epa
So when your home value and that of your neighbors is wiped out because a corporation in the neighboring state dumps toxic waste into the water table that kills off all living plants for a hundred miles what are you going to do?
Sue them.get rid of the epa
So when your home value and that of your neighbors is wiped out because a corporation in the neighboring state dumps toxic waste into the water table that kills off all living plants for a hundred miles what are you going to do?
exactly
what a bunch of helpless assholes
get rid of the epa
So when your home value and that of your neighbors is wiped out because a corporation in the neighboring state dumps toxic waste into the water table that kills off all living plants for a hundred miles what are you going to do?
bs you and your helpless mentality sometimes it is really just a laugh you dumb fuckers
Sue them.get rid of the epa
So when your home value and that of your neighbors is wiped out because a corporation in the neighboring state dumps toxic waste into the water table that kills off all living plants for a hundred miles what are you going to do?
You don't have standing to sue because you don't live in the same state as the corporation so you are SOL as far as suing goes.
