How stupid are left wingers? This stupid.

[Slyhunter]

The problem with that is the government won't pay off the debt with more revenue. Obama increased taxes and our debt doubled.

They certainly won't pay it off with less revenue. And our debt doubled because of our obscene defense budget.

Our obscene defense budget prevents wars from happening simply because it exists.
Too many countries don't have a military powerful enough to defend themselves. Some of those countries aren't being conquered because the potential conqueror is worried of retaliation by ourselves. We should reserve our military defense to ourselves only and those who pay for it. Cut our ties to those who have no military defenses who are weighing us down making us weaker than we should be. If Russia wants to conquer Ukraine, we should let them. If China wants the territory of Taiwan, who are we to try and stop them from taking it?

Either we are the world police or we're not.

 

[FA_Q2]

Which is why such a tax is massively regressive - it effects the poor FAR more than the rich.

That's not the point. The rich are getting tax cuts I don't get. The more tax they pay, the more revenue for the government. The more revenue for the government, the more it has the ability to pay off the debt. The more it pays off the debt, the better it is for average American's.

Of course it is the point. You keep posting as though corporate taxes affect the rich more than the poor. They do not. They affect the poor far more because they are the same as a consumption tax.

 

[ChrisL]

What is the title of the thread?

Okay, have it your way, that was a pretty stupid thing for me to say.

Well that's okay. You are a lefty, so it's to be expected.

 

[Spare_change]

Ever hear of the import/export business? There are tons of companies that supply the US but aren't located here.

And there's a 100 times that who are in the US.

Which, of course, explains why we have a massive trade deficit.

What? WE are on the side of the deficit? You mean all those 100 times companies can't sell enough to keep up?

Never mind.

 

[Spare_change]

The problem with that is the government won't pay off the debt with more revenue. Obama increased taxes and our debt doubled.

They certainly won't pay it off with less revenue. And our debt doubled because of our obscene defense budget.

Really???

Let's play your game ---- make the defense budget zero. We spend NO money on defense.

How long will it take us to pay off the national debt? What? Never? You mean the defense budget doesn't even equal the deficit each year? How can that be? You said the debt was because of our defense budget.

Does this mean that, once again, you have demonstrated that you don't know what the hell you're talking about?

Pretty much, huh?

 

[Billo_Really]

But they won't be HQ'd in America so they won't pay taxes in America for their profits if you keep raising their taxes.

Then we tariff the shit out of these company's. If that's not enough, we re-write the tax laws to the point where any profit made in America, is taxed in America.

 

[Billo_Really]

Until they move to a lower taxed country.

And someone else will move in to replace them.

 

[Billo_Really]

Our obscene defense budget prevents wars from happening simply because it exists.
Too many countries don't have a military powerful enough to defend themselves. Some of those countries aren't being conquered because the potential conqueror is worried of retaliation by ourselves. We should reserve our military defense to ourselves only and those who pay for it. Cut our ties to those who have no military defenses who are weighing us down making us weaker than we should be. If Russia wants to conquer Ukraine, we should let them. If China wants the territory of Taiwan, who are we to try and stop them from taking it?

Either we are the world police or we're not.

I say not. It's none of our god-damn business what happens within the borders of sovereign nations. Why are we spending almost a trillion a year on a military that hasn't won a war since WWII? And how does our military protect this country from threats, when they're not physically in the country they are defending?

 

[danielpalos]

The problem with that is the government won't pay off the debt with more revenue. Obama increased taxes and our debt doubled.

They certainly won't pay it off with less revenue. And our debt doubled because of our obscene defense budget.

Why can we afford a War on Drugs and not a "Mission to Mars"?

 

[ChrisL]

Our obscene defense budget prevents wars from happening simply because it exists.
Too many countries don't have a military powerful enough to defend themselves. Some of those countries aren't being conquered because the potential conqueror is worried of retaliation by ourselves. We should reserve our military defense to ourselves only and those who pay for it. Cut our ties to those who have no military defenses who are weighing us down making us weaker than we should be. If Russia wants to conquer Ukraine, we should let them. If China wants the territory of Taiwan, who are we to try and stop them from taking it?

Either we are the world police or we're not.

I say not. It's none of our god-damn business what happens within the borders of sovereign nations. Why are we spending almost a trillion a year on a military that hasn't won a war since WWII? And how does our military protect this country from threats, when they're not physically in the country they are defending?

We have bases in other countries because they are strategically located. They serve multiple purposes, even something as simple as a place to gas up or get supplies, etc.

 

[danielpalos]

Ever hear of the import/export business? There are tons of companies that supply the US but aren't located here.

And there's a 100 times that who are in the US.

Until they move to a lower taxed country.

Mogadishu has no taxes and not much regulation, for over a decade. How many people went there?

 

[Billo_Really]

Of course it is the point. You keep posting as though corporate taxes affect the rich more than the poor. They do not. They affect the poor far more because they are the same as a consumption tax.

If you live in a state with no sales tax, or you don't buy a particular product like cigarettes, where's your consumption tax there?

 

[danielpalos]

The problem with that is the government won't pay off the debt with more revenue. Obama increased taxes and our debt doubled.

They certainly won't pay it off with less revenue. And our debt doubled because of our obscene defense budget.

Our obscene defense budget prevents wars from happening simply because it exists.
Too many countries don't have a military powerful enough to defend themselves. Some of those countries aren't being conquered because the potential conqueror is worried of retaliation by ourselves. We should reserve our military defense to ourselves only and those who pay for it. Cut our ties to those who have no military defenses who are weighing us down making us weaker than we should be. If Russia wants to conquer Ukraine, we should let them. If China wants the territory of Taiwan, who are we to try and stop them from taking it?

Either we are the world police or we're not.

Why can we afford a War on Drugs and not welfare?

 

[danielpalos]

The problem with that is the government won't pay off the debt with more revenue. Obama increased taxes and our debt doubled.

They certainly won't pay it off with less revenue. And our debt doubled because of our obscene defense budget.

Really???

Let's play your game ---- make the defense budget zero. We spend NO money on defense.

How long will it take us to pay off the national debt? What? Never? You mean the defense budget doesn't even equal the deficit each year? How can that be? You said the debt was because of our defense budget.

Does this mean that, once again, you have demonstrated that you don't know what the hell you're talking about?

Pretty much, huh?

Our alleged wars on crime, drugs, poverty, and terror should be under defense spending.

 

[Billo_Really]

Well that's okay. You are a lefty, so it's to be expected.

I can say things you don't expect.

 

[Billo_Really]

Which, of course, explains why we have a massive trade deficit.

What? WE are on the side of the deficit? You mean all those 100 times companies can't sell enough to keep up?

Never mind.

We have a trade deficit because this country is filled with stupid people thinking they can contribute with no education and the only thing we make that is worth buying is weapons.

 

[Billo_Really]

Really???

Let's play your game ---- make the defense budget zero. We spend NO money on defense.

How long will it take us to pay off the national debt? What? Never? You mean the defense budget doesn't even equal the deficit each year? How can that be? You said the debt was because of our defense budget.

Does this mean that, once again, you have demonstrated that you don't know what the hell you're talking about?

Pretty much, huh?

We have enough nukes to destroy the population of the planet 37 times. I think we're safe.

What I would do is:

• cut the military budget in half
• end all these wars we've been fighting for the last decade
• close these 1000 bases we have all over the planet

If a country wants our base there, then we'll send them an invoice for the total cost to run the base.

 

[Billo_Really]

Why can we afford a War on Drugs and not a "Mission to Mars"?

If we did, it wouldn't take long before we had a War on Mars.

 

[Billo_Really]

We have bases in other countries because they are strategically located. They serve multiple purposes, even something as simple as a place to gas up or get supplies, etc.

That's one bill we shouldn't have to pay. American troops should be on American soil.

 

[Billo_Really]

Mogadishu has no taxes and not much regulation, for over a decade. How many people went there?

It depends on whether they're looking for khat, or not.