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You keep trying that lie. Then I challenge you to prove it, and you somehow disappear. Four or five times now.Agreed! And reasonable people will come to different conclusions, based on their perspective.If both ends on an argument are convinced they have The Truth on their side, which one is right?We really should have vice like grip on the truth since having a vice like grip on anything else is a vice-like grip on something that isn't the truth. Do you think people should embrace a lie?
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Your question implies they both can't be right at the same time since we are asking which ONE is right. This means that there has to be a true and false between them. Which one that is is up to us to decide.
That means that even the interpretation of The Truth is subjective. So to paint The Truth as having only one possible meaning simply doesn't work.
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WHat you are saying if two people are haveing an argument and one is telling the truth and the other is not telling the truth two observers can be watching it and come up with two different opinions on which is which.
"Wouldn't this mean that each is telling the truth and an a lie at the same time. How is that possible?"
It's not.
The problem is that certain posters (cough-Mac-Cough) have a palpable fear of actually choosing a side....no matter which is lying and which is telling the truth.
For them (him), equivalency is more important than rectitude.
I was just watching Judge Judy's telling everyone she thinks that Bernie Sanders believes he is telling the truth. THat is an accurate statement but believing you are telling the truth and actually telling the truth are two different things. Despite this the audience cheered as if she was saying Bernie is telling the truth. Don't people know the fucking difference?
it's so funny when someone as stupid a troll as you are calls others stupid.
troll.
I was just watching Judge Judy's telling everyone she thinks that Bernie Sanders believes he is telling the truth. THat is an accurate statement but believing you are telling the truth and actually telling the truth are two different things. Despite this the audience cheered as if she was saying Bernie is telling the truth. Don't people know the fucking difference?
it's so funny when someone as stupid a troll as you are calls others stupid.
troll.
You keep trying that lie. Then I challenge you to prove it, and you somehow disappear. Four or five times now.Agreed! And reasonable people will come to different conclusions, based on their perspective.If both ends on an argument are convinced they have The Truth on their side, which one is right?
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Your question implies they both can't be right at the same time since we are asking which ONE is right. This means that there has to be a true and false between them. Which one that is is up to us to decide.
That means that even the interpretation of The Truth is subjective. So to paint The Truth as having only one possible meaning simply doesn't work.
.
WHat you are saying if two people are haveing an argument and one is telling the truth and the other is not telling the truth two observers can be watching it and come up with two different opinions on which is which.
"Wouldn't this mean that each is telling the truth and an a lie at the same time. How is that possible?"
It's not.
The problem is that certain posters (cough-Mac-Cough) have a palpable fear of actually choosing a side....no matter which is lying and which is telling the truth.
For them (him), equivalency is more important than rectitude.
Thank you for yet another lovely example of my point, the simplistic, binary thought of hardcore partisan ideologues on both sides. Right on cue.
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Yeah, I must admit, I don't suffer cowards gladly.You keep trying that lie. Then I challenge you to prove it, and you somehow disappear. Four or five times now.Agreed! And reasonable people will come to different conclusions, based on their perspective.Your question implies they both can't be right at the same time since we are asking which ONE is right. This means that there has to be a true and false between them. Which one that is is up to us to decide.
That means that even the interpretation of The Truth is subjective. So to paint The Truth as having only one possible meaning simply doesn't work.
.
WHat you are saying if two people are haveing an argument and one is telling the truth and the other is not telling the truth two observers can be watching it and come up with two different opinions on which is which.
"Wouldn't this mean that each is telling the truth and an a lie at the same time. How is that possible?"
It's not.
The problem is that certain posters (cough-Mac-Cough) have a palpable fear of actually choosing a side....no matter which is lying and which is telling the truth.
For them (him), equivalency is more important than rectitude.
Thank you for yet another lovely example of my point, the simplistic, binary thought of hardcore partisan ideologues on both sides. Right on cue.
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Gee.....I seem to have hit a nerve.........again.
Hardcore partisan ideologues allow their perceptions to be distorted, including talking themselves into believing anything that supports their ideology. They do this by (a) constantly repeating the same general talking points, (b) exposing themselves largely to opinions that agree with their own, and (c) actively shutting out opposing ideas.I was just watching Judge Judy's telling everyone she thinks that Bernie Sanders believes he is telling the truth. THat is an accurate statement but believing you are telling the truth and actually telling the truth are two different things. Despite this the audience cheered as if she was saying Bernie is telling the truth. Don't people know the fucking difference?
In other words, it appears they really do believe what they're saying, at least at some level.
Both ends.
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I was pointing out that believing you are telling the truth and actually repeating something that is true are two different things.
I was just watching Judge Judy's telling everyone she thinks that Bernie Sanders believes he is telling the truth. THat is an accurate statement but believing you are telling the truth and actually telling the truth are two different things. Despite this the audience cheered as if she was saying Bernie is telling the truth. Don't people know the fucking difference?
Agreed! And reasonable people will come to different conclusions, based on their perspective.If both ends on an argument are convinced they have The Truth on their side, which one is right?We really should have vice like grip on the truth since having a vice like grip on anything else is a vice-like grip on something that isn't the truth. Do you think people should embrace a lie?
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Your question implies they both can't be right at the same time since we are asking which ONE is right. This means that there has to be a true and false between them. Which one that is is up to us to decide.
That means that even the interpretation of The Truth is subjective. So to paint The Truth as having only one possible meaning simply doesn't work.
.
WHat you are saying if two people are haveing an argument and one is telling the truth and the other is not telling the truth two observers can be watching it and come up with two different opinions on which is which.
"Wouldn't this mean that each is telling the truth and an a lie at the same time. How is that possible?"
It's not.
The problem is that certain posters (cough-Mac-Cough) have a palpable fear of actually choosing a side....no matter which is lying and which is telling the truth.
For them (him), equivalency is more important than rectitude.
If one person is lying in a conversation, and they know they're lying, then that's it.Agreed! And reasonable people will come to different conclusions, based on their perspective.If both ends on an argument are convinced they have The Truth on their side, which one is right?We really should have vice like grip on the truth since having a vice like grip on anything else is a vice-like grip on something that isn't the truth. Do you think people should embrace a lie?
.
Your question implies they both can't be right at the same time since we are asking which ONE is right. This means that there has to be a true and false between them. Which one that is is up to us to decide.
That means that even the interpretation of The Truth is subjective. So to paint The Truth as having only one possible meaning simply doesn't work.
.
WHat you are saying if two people are haveing an argument and one is telling the truth and the other is not telling the truth two observers can be watching it and come up with two different opinions on which is which. Wouldn't this mean that each is telling the truth and an a lie at the same time. How is that possible?
What I'm saying is that many people are telling the truth as they see it. They are personally convinced that they are being honest. I suspect - literally - that political partisans regularly talk themselves into things that a reasonable person knows are not true. But if they really believe it, they're not lying.
There's a thread on this board that contends that a lot of left-leaning Americans are actually Communists. There's another thread that contends that personal income taxation above 50% equates to slavery. Slavery! After communicating with those posters, I think it's really possible that they have convinced themselves that what they're saying is "The Truth". At least I can't get them to budge in the slightest.
And, of course, the same stuff happens all over the political spectrum, such as the "Trump is a Nazi" stuff. That's what I'm talking about.
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I was just watching Judge Judy's telling everyone she thinks that Bernie Sanders believes he is telling the truth. THat is an accurate statement but believing you are telling the truth and actually telling the truth are two different things. Despite this the audience cheered as if she was saying Bernie is telling the truth. Don't people know the fucking difference?
Yeah, I must admit, I don't suffer cowards gladly.You keep trying that lie. Then I challenge you to prove it, and you somehow disappear. Four or five times now.Agreed! And reasonable people will come to different conclusions, based on their perspective.
That means that even the interpretation of The Truth is subjective. So to paint The Truth as having only one possible meaning simply doesn't work.
.
WHat you are saying if two people are haveing an argument and one is telling the truth and the other is not telling the truth two observers can be watching it and come up with two different opinions on which is which.
"Wouldn't this mean that each is telling the truth and an a lie at the same time. How is that possible?"
It's not.
The problem is that certain posters (cough-Mac-Cough) have a palpable fear of actually choosing a side....no matter which is lying and which is telling the truth.
For them (him), equivalency is more important than rectitude.
Thank you for yet another lovely example of my point, the simplistic, binary thought of hardcore partisan ideologues on both sides. Right on cue.
.
Gee.....I seem to have hit a nerve.........again.
.
I was just watching Judge Judy's telling everyone she thinks that Bernie Sanders believes he is telling the truth. THat is an accurate statement but believing you are telling the truth and actually telling the truth are two different things. Despite this the audience cheered as if she was saying Bernie is telling the truth. Don't people know the fucking difference?
What was Sanders lying about?
Even more disturbing is the OP said he was watching Judge Judy then he lied and denied it. All this in an OP about truth.I was just watching Judge Judy's telling everyone she thinks that Bernie Sanders believes he is telling the truth. THat is an accurate statement but believing you are telling the truth and actually telling the truth are two different things. Despite this the audience cheered as if she was saying Bernie is telling the truth. Don't people know the fucking difference?
My first question is WTF were you doing watching Judge Judy, and why in the world did you just admit it to everyone???
Even more disturbing is the OP said he was watching Judge Judy then he lied and denied it. All this in an OP about truth.I was just watching Judge Judy's telling everyone she thinks that Bernie Sanders believes he is telling the truth. THat is an accurate statement but believing you are telling the truth and actually telling the truth are two different things. Despite this the audience cheered as if she was saying Bernie is telling the truth. Don't people know the fucking difference?
My first question is WTF were you doing watching Judge Judy, and why in the world did you just admit it to everyone???
Even more disturbing is the OP said he was watching Judge Judy then he lied and denied it. All this in an OP about truth.I was just watching Judge Judy's telling everyone she thinks that Bernie Sanders believes he is telling the truth. THat is an accurate statement but believing you are telling the truth and actually telling the truth are two different things. Despite this the audience cheered as if she was saying Bernie is telling the truth. Don't people know the fucking difference?
My first question is WTF were you doing watching Judge Judy, and why in the world did you just admit it to everyone???
Completely irrational. I said I saw Judge Judy on a show. I didn't say it was her show. I said it was A show with her on it. She does do other appearances on other shows from time to time.
Nope thats not what you said. You need to read your own OP. Please quote where you say you were watching anything other than Judge Judy. its OK you were caught lying but I did tell you that you had a hard time telling the truth.Even more disturbing is the OP said he was watching Judge Judy then he lied and denied it. All this in an OP about truth.I was just watching Judge Judy's telling everyone she thinks that Bernie Sanders believes he is telling the truth. THat is an accurate statement but believing you are telling the truth and actually telling the truth are two different things. Despite this the audience cheered as if she was saying Bernie is telling the truth. Don't people know the fucking difference?
My first question is WTF were you doing watching Judge Judy, and why in the world did you just admit it to everyone???
Completely irrational. I said I saw Judge Judy on a show. I didn't say it was her show. I said it was A show with her on it. She does do other appearances on other shows from time to time.
If one person is lying in a conversation, and they know they're lying, then that's it.Agreed! And reasonable people will come to different conclusions, based on their perspective.If both ends on an argument are convinced they have The Truth on their side, which one is right?We really should have vice like grip on the truth since having a vice like grip on anything else is a vice-like grip on something that isn't the truth. Do you think people should embrace a lie?
.
Your question implies they both can't be right at the same time since we are asking which ONE is right. This means that there has to be a true and false between them. Which one that is is up to us to decide.
That means that even the interpretation of The Truth is subjective. So to paint The Truth as having only one possible meaning simply doesn't work.
.
WHat you are saying if two people are haveing an argument and one is telling the truth and the other is not telling the truth two observers can be watching it and come up with two different opinions on which is which. Wouldn't this mean that each is telling the truth and an a lie at the same time. How is that possible?
What I'm saying is that many people are telling the truth as they see it. They are personally convinced that they are being honest. I suspect - literally - that political partisans regularly talk themselves into things that a reasonable person knows are not true. But if they really believe it, they're not lying.
There's a thread on this board that contends that a lot of left-leaning Americans are actually Communists. There's another thread that contends that personal income taxation above 50% equates to slavery. Slavery! After communicating with those posters, I think it's really possible that they have convinced themselves that what they're saying is "The Truth". At least I can't get them to budge in the slightest.
And, of course, the same stuff happens all over the political spectrum, such as the "Trump is a Nazi" stuff. That's what I'm talking about.
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Nope thats not what you said. You need to read your own OP. Please quote where you say you were watching anything other than Judge Judy. its OK you were caught lying but I did tell you that you had a hard time telling the truth.Even more disturbing is the OP said he was watching Judge Judy then he lied and denied it. All this in an OP about truth.I was just watching Judge Judy's telling everyone she thinks that Bernie Sanders believes he is telling the truth. THat is an accurate statement but believing you are telling the truth and actually telling the truth are two different things. Despite this the audience cheered as if she was saying Bernie is telling the truth. Don't people know the fucking difference?
My first question is WTF were you doing watching Judge Judy, and why in the world did you just admit it to everyone???
Completely irrational. I said I saw Judge Judy on a show. I didn't say it was her show. I said it was A show with her on it. She does do other appearances on other shows from time to time.
"I was just watching Judge Judy's telling everyone she thinks that Bernie Sanders believes he is telling the truth. THat is an accurate statement but believing you are telling the truth and actually telling the truth are two different things. Despite this the audience cheered as if she was saying Bernie is telling the truth. Don't people know the fucking difference?"
Thats impossible. You specifically used the possessive form "Judge Judy's". If you were talking about the person you would have left off the "s". Now your compounding your lie with another lie.Nope thats not what you said. You need to read your own OP. Please quote where you say you were watching anything other than Judge Judy. its OK you were caught lying but I did tell you that you had a hard time telling the truth.Even more disturbing is the OP said he was watching Judge Judy then he lied and denied it. All this in an OP about truth.I was just watching Judge Judy's telling everyone she thinks that Bernie Sanders believes he is telling the truth. THat is an accurate statement but believing you are telling the truth and actually telling the truth are two different things. Despite this the audience cheered as if she was saying Bernie is telling the truth. Don't people know the fucking difference?
My first question is WTF were you doing watching Judge Judy, and why in the world did you just admit it to everyone???
Completely irrational. I said I saw Judge Judy on a show. I didn't say it was her show. I said it was A show with her on it. She does do other appearances on other shows from time to time.
"I was just watching Judge Judy's telling everyone she thinks that Bernie Sanders believes he is telling the truth. THat is an accurate statement but believing you are telling the truth and actually telling the truth are two different things. Despite this the audience cheered as if she was saying Bernie is telling the truth. Don't people know the fucking difference?"
I wasn't referring to Judge Judy the show but Judge Judy the person. That is her title.
Sure, at some level. I've actually done some research on the psychology of partisanship, for what it's worth. A subconscious can be trained, literally, to "believe" things that at some level a person knows are not 100% true. But on a conscious level, that person will "believe" what they're saying, and/or hearing.If one person is lying in a conversation, and they know they're lying, then that's it.Agreed! And reasonable people will come to different conclusions, based on their perspective.If both ends on an argument are convinced they have The Truth on their side, which one is right?
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Your question implies they both can't be right at the same time since we are asking which ONE is right. This means that there has to be a true and false between them. Which one that is is up to us to decide.
That means that even the interpretation of The Truth is subjective. So to paint The Truth as having only one possible meaning simply doesn't work.
.
WHat you are saying if two people are haveing an argument and one is telling the truth and the other is not telling the truth two observers can be watching it and come up with two different opinions on which is which. Wouldn't this mean that each is telling the truth and an a lie at the same time. How is that possible?
What I'm saying is that many people are telling the truth as they see it. They are personally convinced that they are being honest. I suspect - literally - that political partisans regularly talk themselves into things that a reasonable person knows are not true. But if they really believe it, they're not lying.
There's a thread on this board that contends that a lot of left-leaning Americans are actually Communists. There's another thread that contends that personal income taxation above 50% equates to slavery. Slavery! After communicating with those posters, I think it's really possible that they have convinced themselves that what they're saying is "The Truth". At least I can't get them to budge in the slightest.
And, of course, the same stuff happens all over the political spectrum, such as the "Trump is a Nazi" stuff. That's what I'm talking about.
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I disagree with that. I don't find it plausible that these people have actually convinced themselves that they are telling the truth. On some level liars always know they are lying.
