How the Democrats rigged the 2020 election

It was not a conspiracy between china and the democrats. It was a virus that democrats and their supporters in the MSM continually exaggerated to hurt Trump's reelection. Pre-covid, the economy was roaring, unemployment at historic lows across the board, and there was unprecedented peace across the world. Not only did they "never let a crisis go to waste", they amplified it as well as pouring fuel on the racial fire they've been stoking for decades.
 
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This is a serious thread, opened (and hopefully kept) in the Clean Debate Zone so that we can have some serious and thoughtful clarity on this whole controversy.

Obviously this is a complicated topic, but what I'm after here is focus, clarity, and conciseness. Your shortest, clearest, most succinct responses.

From what I'm reading, seeing and hearing, this is what Trump supporters believe happened before, during and after the 2020 elections, in three parts:

1. Fearing that President Donald Trump would win re-election in 2020, the Democrats approached and worked with the Chinese government to release a deadly virus that would disrupt the 2020 American election process and provide an excuse for the Democrats to revise/ease voting requirements. These looser requirements would provide the cover they needed to (among other things) insert doctored ballots (some of which may have been doctored by the Chinese themselves), hide/destroy ballots, and count legal ballots multiple times. Dr Anthony Fauci, a key member of the government's health system, was recruited to spread false and misleading information to the public and advance this effort.

2. A large number of individuals and organizations successfully pulled off the fraud, either working in concert or alone. Providing cover and aid in this endeavor were China, the American major media, American local media, the Democratic Party, SmartMatic and Dominion Software.

3. Once the fraud was detected, the following individuals and groups purposely and actively participated in its coverup in some way, either through dishonesty or the refusal to examine the clear and voluminous evidence of fraud that was provided: The US Supreme Court, Trump-appointed judges, GOP state election officials, GOP governors, GOP state legislatures, the FBI, the CIA, Trump's Justice Department, Trump's Attorney General, Vice President Mike Pence, the Democratic Party, the American major media and Republican congresspeople. To date, these individuals and groups have been successful in holding off the exposure of the evidence.

As I understand it, that is the issue, in a nutshell, as succinct as I can make it.

Is this fair and accurate? Please comment and make your best effort to keep this focused, clear and concise.


The Democrats stole the election by continuing to vote in six cities, Philadelphia, Detroit, Atlanta, Milwaukee, Las Vegan and Phoenix until they were ahead in those States. Then they stopped "counting" ... and voting ...

It wasn't a complicated plan, but it did the job
And they weren't able to show that fraud in 62 jury visits ?/ How FN stupid are Repubs ? They deserve to get screwed every election day You want AH's like them representing you??
Don't forget, all the judges -- including those appointed by Trump himself -- are in on the conspiracy and just found excuses to avoid looking at the evidence! Everybody knows that!

:spinner:

I just said there was no "conspiracy," moron. Democrats straight out stole the election. Get mental help, you are always seeing little green aliens everywhere
This qualifies as one of the most ironic posts of all time. Kaz, believes that "Democrats", without pushback, just kept counting votes until their guy won and then stopped. But that isn't a conspiracy theory and anyone who thinks that is the crazy one. Do they take a class on gaslighting?
I think they really believe the things they say. Like the man they adore, they instantly believe whatever comes out of their mouths.
Some of them. I really didn't expect this kind of slavish, eschew all reality, devotion from Kaz.
Yeah, there are a few here who have surprised me.

It's hard to surprise someone who's position on every issue is your love and devotion for Democrats and the Democrat party
 
This is a serious thread, opened (and hopefully kept) in the Clean Debate Zone so that we can have some serious and thoughtful clarity on this whole controversy.

Obviously this is a complicated topic, but what I'm after here is focus, clarity, and conciseness. Your shortest, clearest, most succinct responses.

From what I'm reading, seeing and hearing, this is what Trump supporters believe happened before, during and after the 2020 elections, in three parts:

1. Fearing that President Donald Trump would win re-election in 2020, the Democrats approached and worked with the Chinese government to release a deadly virus that would disrupt the 2020 American election process and provide an excuse for the Democrats to revise/ease voting requirements. These looser requirements would provide the cover they needed to (among other things) insert doctored ballots (some of which may have been doctored by the Chinese themselves), hide/destroy ballots, and count legal ballots multiple times. Dr Anthony Fauci, a key member of the government's health system, was recruited to spread false and misleading information to the public and advance this effort.

2. A large number of individuals and organizations successfully pulled off the fraud, either working in concert or alone. Providing cover and aid in this endeavor were China, the American major media, American local media, the Democratic Party, SmartMatic and Dominion Software.

3. Once the fraud was detected, the following individuals and groups purposely and actively participated in its coverup in some way, either through dishonesty or the refusal to examine the clear and voluminous evidence of fraud that was provided: The US Supreme Court, Trump-appointed judges, GOP state election officials, GOP governors, GOP state legislatures, the FBI, the CIA, Trump's Justice Department, Trump's Attorney General, Vice President Mike Pence, the Democratic Party, the American major media and Republican congresspeople. To date, these individuals and groups have been successful in holding off the exposure of the evidence.

As I understand it, that is the issue, in a nutshell, as succinct as I can make it.

Is this fair and accurate? Please comment and make your best effort to keep this focused, clear and concise.


The Democrats stole the election by continuing to vote in six cities, Philadelphia, Detroit, Atlanta, Milwaukee, Las Vegan and Phoenix until they were ahead in those States. Then they stopped "counting" ... and voting ...

It wasn't a complicated plan, but it did the job
And they weren't able to show that fraud in 62 jury visits ?/ How FN stupid are Repubs ? They deserve to get screwed every election day You want AH's like them representing you??
Don't forget, all the judges -- including those appointed by Trump himself -- are in on the conspiracy and just found excuses to avoid looking at the evidence! Everybody knows that!

:spinner:

I just said there was no "conspiracy," moron. Democrats straight out stole the election. Get mental help, you are always seeing little green aliens everywhere
This qualifies as one of the most ironic posts of all time. Kaz, believes that "Democrats", without pushback, just kept counting votes until their guy won and then stopped. But that isn't a conspiracy theory and anyone who thinks that is the crazy one. Do they take a class on gaslighting?
I think they really believe the things they say. Like the man they adore, they instantly believe whatever comes out of their mouths.
Trump has more credibility than the MSM or any politician out there. Recently wwe have found out many of the things he said were in fact true.
LOL yeah blaming Fauci for the virus is revisionist history at it's best
Trump besides being a swine is a 1st class liar too
The blame belongs with China.
 
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This is a serious thread, opened (and hopefully kept) in the Clean Debate Zone so that we can have some serious and thoughtful clarity on this whole controversy.

Obviously this is a complicated topic, but what I'm after here is focus, clarity, and conciseness. Your shortest, clearest, most succinct responses.

From what I'm reading, seeing and hearing, this is what Trump supporters believe happened before, during and after the 2020 elections, in three parts:

1. Fearing that President Donald Trump would win re-election in 2020, the Democrats approached and worked with the Chinese government to release a deadly virus that would disrupt the 2020 American election process and provide an excuse for the Democrats to revise/ease voting requirements. These looser requirements would provide the cover they needed to (among other things) insert doctored ballots (some of which may have been doctored by the Chinese themselves), hide/destroy ballots, and count legal ballots multiple times. Dr Anthony Fauci, a key member of the government's health system, was recruited to spread false and misleading information to the public and advance this effort.

2. A large number of individuals and organizations successfully pulled off the fraud, either working in concert or alone. Providing cover and aid in this endeavor were China, the American major media, American local media, the Democratic Party, SmartMatic and Dominion Software.

3. Once the fraud was detected, the following individuals and groups purposely and actively participated in its coverup in some way, either through dishonesty or the refusal to examine the clear and voluminous evidence of fraud that was provided: The US Supreme Court, Trump-appointed judges, GOP state election officials, GOP governors, GOP state legislatures, the FBI, the CIA, Trump's Justice Department, Trump's Attorney General, Vice President Mike Pence, the Democratic Party, the American major media and Republican congresspeople. To date, these individuals and groups have been successful in holding off the exposure of the evidence.

As I understand it, that is the issue, in a nutshell, as succinct as I can make it.

Is this fair and accurate? Please comment and make your best effort to keep this focused, clear and concise.


The Democrats stole the election by continuing to vote in six cities, Philadelphia, Detroit, Atlanta, Milwaukee, Las Vegan and Phoenix until they were ahead in those States. Then they stopped "counting" ... and voting ...

It wasn't a complicated plan, but it did the job
And they weren't able to show that fraud in 62 jury visits ?/ How FN stupid are Repubs ? They deserve to get screwed every election day You want AH's like them representing you??
Don't forget, all the judges -- including those appointed by Trump himself -- are in on the conspiracy and just found excuses to avoid looking at the evidence! Everybody knows that!

:spinner:

I just said there was no "conspiracy," moron. Democrats straight out stole the election. Get mental help, you are always seeing little green aliens everywhere
This qualifies as one of the most ironic posts of all time. Kaz, believes that "Democrats", without pushback, just kept counting votes until their guy won and then stopped. But that isn't a conspiracy theory and anyone who thinks that is the crazy one. Do they take a class on gaslighting?
I think they really believe the things they say. Like the man they adore, they instantly believe whatever comes out of their mouths.
Some of them. I really didn't expect this kind of slavish, eschew all reality, devotion from Kaz.
Yeah, there are a few here who have surprised me.

It's hard to surprise someone who's position on every issue is your love and devotion for Democrats and the Democrat party
But that's demonstrably untrue.

So you're just demented by your fixation on me.

Sorry.
 
This is a serious thread, opened (and hopefully kept) in the Clean Debate Zone so that we can have some serious and thoughtful clarity on this whole controversy.

Obviously this is a complicated topic, but what I'm after here is focus, clarity, and conciseness. Your shortest, clearest, most succinct responses.

From what I'm reading, seeing and hearing, this is what Trump supporters believe happened before, during and after the 2020 elections, in three parts:

1. Fearing that President Donald Trump would win re-election in 2020, the Democrats approached and worked with the Chinese government to release a deadly virus that would disrupt the 2020 American election process and provide an excuse for the Democrats to revise/ease voting requirements. These looser requirements would provide the cover they needed to (among other things) insert doctored ballots (some of which may have been doctored by the Chinese themselves), hide/destroy ballots, and count legal ballots multiple times. Dr Anthony Fauci, a key member of the government's health system, was recruited to spread false and misleading information to the public and advance this effort.

2. A large number of individuals and organizations successfully pulled off the fraud, either working in concert or alone. Providing cover and aid in this endeavor were China, the American major media, American local media, the Democratic Party, SmartMatic and Dominion Software.

3. Once the fraud was detected, the following individuals and groups purposely and actively participated in its coverup in some way, either through dishonesty or the refusal to examine the clear and voluminous evidence of fraud that was provided: The US Supreme Court, Trump-appointed judges, GOP state election officials, GOP governors, GOP state legislatures, the FBI, the CIA, Trump's Justice Department, Trump's Attorney General, Vice President Mike Pence, the Democratic Party, the American major media and Republican congresspeople. To date, these individuals and groups have been successful in holding off the exposure of the evidence.

As I understand it, that is the issue, in a nutshell, as succinct as I can make it.

Is this fair and accurate? Please comment and make your best effort to keep this focused, clear and concise.


The Democrats stole the election by continuing to vote in six cities, Philadelphia, Detroit, Atlanta, Milwaukee, Las Vegan and Phoenix until they were ahead in those States. Then they stopped "counting" ... and voting ...

It wasn't a complicated plan, but it did the job
And they weren't able to show that fraud in 62 jury visits ?/ How FN stupid are Repubs ? They deserve to get screwed every election day You want AH's like them representing you??
Don't forget, all the judges -- including those appointed by Trump himself -- are in on the conspiracy and just found excuses to avoid looking at the evidence! Everybody knows that!

:spinner:

I just said there was no "conspiracy," moron. Democrats straight out stole the election. Get mental help, you are always seeing little green aliens everywhere
This qualifies as one of the most ironic posts of all time. Kaz, believes that "Democrats", without pushback, just kept counting votes until their guy won and then stopped. But that isn't a conspiracy theory and anyone who thinks that is the crazy one. Do they take a class on gaslighting?
I think they really believe the things they say. Like the man they adore, they instantly believe whatever comes out of their mouths.
Some of them. I really didn't expect this kind of slavish, eschew all reality, devotion from Kaz.
Yeah, there are a few here who have surprised me.

It's hard to surprise someone who's position on every issue is your love and devotion for Democrats and the Democrat party
But that's demonstrably untrue.

So you're just demented by your fixation on me.

Sorry.
Not fixation, fact.
 
I think they really believe the things they say. Like the man they adore, they instantly believe whatever comes out of their mouths.
Some of them. I really didn't expect this kind of slavish, eschew all reality, devotion from Kaz.
Yeah, there are a few here who have surprised me.

It's hard to surprise someone who's position on every issue is your love and devotion for Democrats and the Democrat party
But that's demonstrably untrue.

So you're just demented by your fixation on me.

Sorry.

Yes, anyone who responds to your posts on a message board is fixated on you. Nailed me.

How do you get your head through doorways?
 
I think they really believe the things they say. Like the man they adore, they instantly believe whatever comes out of their mouths.
Some of them. I really didn't expect this kind of slavish, eschew all reality, devotion from Kaz.
Yeah, there are a few here who have surprised me.

It's hard to surprise someone who's position on every issue is your love and devotion for Democrats and the Democrat party
But that's demonstrably untrue.

So you're just demented by your fixation on me.

Sorry.

Yes, anyone who responds to your posts on a message board is fixated on you. Nailed me.

How do you get your head through doorways?
He takes some KY jelly from his asshole and lubes it up.
 
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I think they really believe the things they say. Like the man they adore, they instantly believe whatever comes out of their mouths.
Some of them. I really didn't expect this kind of slavish, eschew all reality, devotion from Kaz.
Yeah, there are a few here who have surprised me.

It's hard to surprise someone who's position on every issue is your love and devotion for Democrats and the Democrat party
But that's demonstrably untrue.

So you're just demented by your fixation on me.

Sorry.

Yes, anyone who responds to your posts on a message board is fixated on you. Nailed me.

How do you get your head through doorways?
He takes some KY jelly from his asshole and lubes it up.
yikes
 
Now that the fighting over the source is over.
How about responding to voter purges disenfranchising thousands of legitimate voters.
Classic diversion from the real problem.
The solution was to disenfranchise many thousands more legitimate voters, than to rid the list of illegitimate ones.
Whenever voter "purges" are mentioned, they don't require the same strict ID requirements of letting somebody voting vs removing them.

Voters can be purged without having a government picture ID match. They don't even require an ID match. As was shown, if the first and last names match (and not even the DOB) it's close enough.

That's the problem with voter purges.
Which is why we must pass NATIONAL same day registration laws and tighten up laws surrounding provisional ballots.
Voting has to return to in-person voting.
No, it really doesn't. Oh, and once again you're in the minority.

I don't take anything seriously from the NY Times.
 
Now that the fighting over the source is over.
How about responding to voter purges disenfranchising thousands of legitimate voters.
Classic diversion from the real problem.
The solution was to disenfranchise many thousands more legitimate voters, than to rid the list of illegitimate ones.
Whenever voter "purges" are mentioned, they don't require the same strict ID requirements of letting somebody voting vs removing them.

Voters can be purged without having a government picture ID match. They don't even require an ID match. As was shown, if the first and last names match (and not even the DOB) it's close enough.

That's the problem with voter purges.
Which is why we must pass NATIONAL same day registration laws and tighten up laws surrounding provisional ballots.
Voting has to return to in-person voting.
No, it really doesn't. Oh, and once again you're in the minority.

I don't take anything seriously from the NY Times.
What media do you take seriously?
 
Now that the fighting over the source is over.
How about responding to voter purges disenfranchising thousands of legitimate voters.
Classic diversion from the real problem.
The solution was to disenfranchise many thousands more legitimate voters, than to rid the list of illegitimate ones.
Whenever voter "purges" are mentioned, they don't require the same strict ID requirements of letting somebody voting vs removing them.

Voters can be purged without having a government picture ID match. They don't even require an ID match. As was shown, if the first and last names match (and not even the DOB) it's close enough.

That's the problem with voter purges.
Which is why we must pass NATIONAL same day registration laws and tighten up laws surrounding provisional ballots.
Voting has to return to in-person voting.
No, it really doesn't. Oh, and once again you're in the minority.

I don't take anything seriously from the NY Times.
What media do you take seriously?
None. I peruse everything and investigate, then I will weigh the information guided by my experience and intellect to form an opinion.
 
This is a serious thread, opened (and hopefully kept) in the Clean Debate Zone so that we can have some serious and thoughtful clarity on this whole controversy.

Obviously this is a complicated topic, but what I'm after here is focus, clarity, and conciseness. Your shortest, clearest, most succinct responses.

From what I'm reading, seeing and hearing, this is what Trump supporters believe happened before, during and after the 2020 elections, in three parts:

1. Fearing that President Donald Trump would win re-election in 2020, the Democrats approached and worked with the Chinese government to release a deadly virus that would disrupt the 2020 American election process and provide an excuse for the Democrats to revise/ease voting requirements. These looser requirements would provide the cover they needed to (among other things) insert doctored ballots (some of which may have been doctored by the Chinese themselves), hide/destroy ballots, and count legal ballots multiple times. Dr Anthony Fauci, a key member of the government's health system, was recruited to spread false and misleading information to the public and advance this effort.

2. A large number of individuals and organizations successfully pulled off the fraud, either working in concert or alone. Providing cover and aid in this endeavor were China, the American major media, American local media, the Democratic Party, SmartMatic and Dominion Software.

3. Once the fraud was detected, the following individuals and groups purposely and actively participated in its coverup in some way, either through dishonesty or the refusal to examine the clear and voluminous evidence of fraud that was provided: The US Supreme Court, Trump-appointed judges, GOP state election officials, GOP governors, GOP state legislatures, the FBI, the CIA, Trump's Justice Department, Trump's Attorney General, Vice President Mike Pence, the Democratic Party, the American major media and Republican congresspeople. To date, these individuals and groups have been successful in holding off the exposure of the evidence.

As I understand it, that is the issue, in a nutshell, as succinct as I can make it.

Is this fair and accurate? Please comment and make your best effort to keep this focused, clear and concise.

The problem I have with all of this is that the US electoral system is rubbish. There's no real democracy and never has been in any election for the president ever.

So, of course the election is rigged. But they've all been rigged. And they've probably not been rigged in the way many Trump supporters would suggest.

Which is why as voters we should push for more controls and checks. The Mail In process pushed by Democrats in 2020 was completely unnecessary. All of their arguments centered around COVID and all of those arguments could have been addressed with Absentee Voting where the voter requests and receives a ballot and then mails it in.

The 2020 Mail In process pushed by Democrats has ballots mailed to voters based on registration lists. It is also Democrats who fight any attempt to clean up Voter Registration lists where voters have not voted in many years. These voters could be dead, moved to another district, or they just don’t vote.

I have accepted the outcome of the 2020 Elections. But, for future elections, I want to see Mail In voting go away. Absentee Voting meets all of the Democrats arguments and is inherently safer.
 
I tend to believe left wing media more than I believe right wing media, since Trump.

Prior to Trump and during Trump, the Left wing media has been exposed numerous times either one of or inclusive of ignoring stories or modifying stories to make their guy or gal look good and definitely make the other side look bad. If the established media - ie the media that has roots going back 50-100 plus years - did its job correctly, their would be now “right wing media”. Right wing media is maybe 30 years old.
 
Now that the fighting over the source is over.
How about responding to voter purges disenfranchising thousands of legitimate voters.
Classic diversion from the real problem.
The solution was to disenfranchise many thousands more legitimate voters, than to rid the list of illegitimate ones.
Whenever voter "purges" are mentioned, they don't require the same strict ID requirements of letting somebody voting vs removing them.

Voters can be purged without having a government picture ID match. They don't even require an ID match. As was shown, if the first and last names match (and not even the DOB) it's close enough.

That's the problem with voter purges.
Which is why we must pass NATIONAL same day registration laws and tighten up laws surrounding provisional ballots.
Voting has to return to in-person voting.
No, it really doesn't. Oh, and once again you're in the minority.

I don't take anything seriously from the NY Times.
Just the moron Trump
 
Now that the fighting over the source is over.
How about responding to voter purges disenfranchising thousands of legitimate voters.
Classic diversion from the real problem.
The solution was to disenfranchise many thousands more legitimate voters, than to rid the list of illegitimate ones.
Whenever voter "purges" are mentioned, they don't require the same strict ID requirements of letting somebody voting vs removing them.

Voters can be purged without having a government picture ID match. They don't even require an ID match. As was shown, if the first and last names match (and not even the DOB) it's close enough.

That's the problem with voter purges.
Which is why we must pass NATIONAL same day registration laws and tighten up laws surrounding provisional ballots.
Voting has to return to in-person voting.
No, it really doesn't. Oh, and once again you're in the minority.

I don't take anything seriously from the NY Times.
What media do you take seriously?
None. I peruse everything and investigate, then I will weigh the information guided by my experience and intellect to form an opinion.
:lol: That explains EVERYTHING. :lol
 
This is a serious thread, opened (and hopefully kept) in the Clean Debate Zone so that we can have some serious and thoughtful clarity on this whole controversy.

Obviously this is a complicated topic, but what I'm after here is focus, clarity, and conciseness. Your shortest, clearest, most succinct responses.

From what I'm reading, seeing and hearing, this is what Trump supporters believe happened before, during and after the 2020 elections, in three parts:

1. Fearing that President Donald Trump would win re-election in 2020, the Democrats approached and worked with the Chinese government to release a deadly virus that would disrupt the 2020 American election process and provide an excuse for the Democrats to revise/ease voting requirements. These looser requirements would provide the cover they needed to (among other things) insert doctored ballots (some of which may have been doctored by the Chinese themselves), hide/destroy ballots, and count legal ballots multiple times. Dr Anthony Fauci, a key member of the government's health system, was recruited to spread false and misleading information to the public and advance this effort.

2. A large number of individuals and organizations successfully pulled off the fraud, either working in concert or alone. Providing cover and aid in this endeavor were China, the American major media, American local media, the Democratic Party, SmartMatic and Dominion Software.

3. Once the fraud was detected, the following individuals and groups purposely and actively participated in its coverup in some way, either through dishonesty or the refusal to examine the clear and voluminous evidence of fraud that was provided: The US Supreme Court, Trump-appointed judges, GOP state election officials, GOP governors, GOP state legislatures, the FBI, the CIA, Trump's Justice Department, Trump's Attorney General, Vice President Mike Pence, the Democratic Party, the American major media and Republican congresspeople. To date, these individuals and groups have been successful in holding off the exposure of the evidence.

As I understand it, that is the issue, in a nutshell, as succinct as I can make it.

Is this fair and accurate? Please comment and make your best effort to keep this focused, clear and concise.

The problem I have with all of this is that the US electoral system is rubbish. There's no real democracy and never has been in any election for the president ever.

So, of course the election is rigged. But they've all been rigged. And they've probably not been rigged in the way many Trump supporters would suggest.

Which is why as voters we should push for more controls and checks. The Mail In process pushed by Democrats in 2020 was completely unnecessary. All of their arguments centered around COVID and all of those arguments could have been addressed with Absentee Voting where the voter requests and receives a ballot and then mails it in.

The 2020 Mail In process pushed by Democrats has ballots mailed to voters based on registration lists. It is also Democrats who fight any attempt to clean up Voter Registration lists where voters have not voted in many years. These voters could be dead, moved to another district, or they just don’t vote.

I have accepted the outcome of the 2020 Elections. But, for future elections, I want to see Mail In voting go away. Absentee Voting meets all of the Democrats arguments and is inherently safer.
OK No mail in voting How about instead put up 100's more voting booths more days to vote ,don't try to make black voters coming from church miss voting etc etc You suckers aren't trying to kill fraud you just want to kill voting abilities for Dems THERE IS NO FRAUD More people voting better the chances of you losing
 
Now that the fighting over the source is over.
How about responding to voter purges disenfranchising thousands of legitimate voters.
Classic diversion from the real problem.
The solution was to disenfranchise many thousands more legitimate voters, than to rid the list of illegitimate ones.
Whenever voter "purges" are mentioned, they don't require the same strict ID requirements of letting somebody voting vs removing them.

Voters can be purged without having a government picture ID match. They don't even require an ID match. As was shown, if the first and last names match (and not even the DOB) it's close enough.

That's the problem with voter purges.
Which is why we must pass NATIONAL same day registration laws and tighten up laws surrounding provisional ballots.
Voting has to return to in-person voting.
No, it really doesn't. Oh, and once again you're in the minority.

I don't take anything seriously from the NY Times.
What media do you take seriously?
None. I peruse everything and investigate, then I will weigh the information guided by my experience and intellect to form an opinion.
So then you take nothing seriously. That’s fine neither do I. Probably no need to point out The NY Times then eh?
 

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