How well does the GOP have to do with Hispanics to win the WH in 2016?

[the_human_being]

These people take these generic ideas as the OP did, and all of the sudden they become gospel.

1. The Hispanic vote DOESN'T matter! You got that OP. All that matters is the electoral college. EXAMPLE: If every Hispanic votes for the Democrat, but all the Hispanics reside in California, are the Democrats going to win? Answer, NO!

2. Now to the meat an potatoes----------> Republicans will carry Florida this time because of lefty deal with Castro. Florida goes GOP by 4 points.

3. If Kasich has any pull in Ohio, even though he is a rino, if the GOP nominee takes him as his VP, the Democratic party falls off the map, since they no longer control ANYTHING!

That is the truth of it OP, you can talk divisive politics all you want, but that is what will happen. Now go count your electoral votes and what is left with Florida and Ohio in the GOP column, then get back to me about that Hispanic vote again-)

Losing the Hispanic vote will mean the next Republican President hasn't been born yet

Florida is almost entirely in the blue column right now
Texas, Arizona and Colorado could move in the next twenty years making it impossible for Republicans to reach 270

You are lying through your teeth if you are a political animal at all, and you know it. Florida is going 3 to 4 points with the GOP this time because of the lefts deal with the Castro brothers. I know it, you know it, and if you want to lie, go ahead but it doesn't make your statement true. Florida is already counted for the Repubs this time, and everybody who is aware of anything knows it!

Rubio could take Florida. None of the other Republicans could. Not even Bush

Hillary has always done well with Florida voters. Run Trump, Carson or Cruz and she will crush them

I think Bush would handily beat Hillary here in Florida. Bush has been leading Clinton since early in the year.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - Florida: Bush vs. Clinton

Democrats are dramatically over-estimating Clinton.

The Lefties on USMB won't even attempt to defend Hillary's $2 Trillion in new spending. They spend all their time attempting to smear whoever is leading the polls on the Republican side. The whole point is that they know Hillary will have to raise taxes on the Middle Class in order to pay for her new spending and the USMB Liberals cannot defend her raising taxes on the Middle Class. The Liberals on USMB are dishonest cowards, especially the author of this OP.

 

[JimH52]

These people take these generic ideas as the OP did, and all of the sudden they become gospel.

1. The Hispanic vote DOESN'T matter! You got that OP. All that matters is the electoral college. EXAMPLE: If every Hispanic votes for the Democrat, but all the Hispanics reside in California, are the Democrats going to win? Answer, NO!

2. Now to the meat an potatoes----------> Republicans will carry Florida this time because of lefty deal with Castro. Florida goes GOP by 4 points.

3. If Kasich has any pull in Ohio, even though he is a rino, if the GOP nominee takes him as his VP, the Democratic party falls off the map, since they no longer control ANYTHING!

That is the truth of it OP, you can talk divisive politics all you want, but that is what will happen. Now go count your electoral votes and what is left with Florida and Ohio in the GOP column, then get back to me about that Hispanic vote again-)

Losing the Hispanic vote will mean the next Republican President hasn't been born yet

Florida is almost entirely in the blue column right now
Texas, Arizona and Colorado could move in the next twenty years making it impossible for Republicans to reach 270

You are lying through your teeth if you are a political animal at all, and you know it. Florida is going 3 to 4 points with the GOP this time because of the lefts deal with the Castro brothers. I know it, you know it, and if you want to lie, go ahead but it doesn't make your statement true. Florida is already counted for the Repubs this time, and everybody who is aware of anything knows it!

Rubio could take Florida. None of the other Republicans could. Not even Bush

Hillary has always done well with Florida voters. Run Trump, Carson or Cruz and she will crush them

I think Bush would handily beat Hillary here in Florida. Bush has been leading Clinton since early in the year.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - Florida: Bush vs. Clinton

Democrats are dramatically over-estimating Clinton.

The Lefties on USMB won't even attempt to defend Hillary's $2 Trillion in new spending. They spend all their time attempting to smear whoever is leading the polls on the Republican side. The whole point is that they know Hillary will have to raise taxes on the Middle Class in order to pay for her new spending and the USMB Liberals cannot defend her raising taxes on the Middle Class. The Liberals on USMB are dishonest cowards, especially the author of this OP.

WOW! I can understand your frustration with the facts, but get a grip. Maybe some soothing sedatives will calm you down a bit?

 

[the_human_being]

Losing the Hispanic vote will mean the next Republican President hasn't been born yet

Florida is almost entirely in the blue column right now
Texas, Arizona and Colorado could move in the next twenty years making it impossible for Republicans to reach 270

You are lying through your teeth if you are a political animal at all, and you know it. Florida is going 3 to 4 points with the GOP this time because of the lefts deal with the Castro brothers. I know it, you know it, and if you want to lie, go ahead but it doesn't make your statement true. Florida is already counted for the Repubs this time, and everybody who is aware of anything knows it!

Rubio could take Florida. None of the other Republicans could. Not even Bush

Hillary has always done well with Florida voters. Run Trump, Carson or Cruz and she will crush them

I think Bush would handily beat Hillary here in Florida. Bush has been leading Clinton since early in the year.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - Florida: Bush vs. Clinton

Democrats are dramatically over-estimating Clinton.

The Lefties on USMB won't even attempt to defend Hillary's $2 Trillion in new spending. They spend all their time attempting to smear whoever is leading the polls on the Republican side. The whole point is that they know Hillary will have to raise taxes on the Middle Class in order to pay for her new spending and the USMB Liberals cannot defend her raising taxes on the Middle Class. The Liberals on USMB are dishonest cowards, especially the author of this OP.

WOW! I can understand your frustration with the facts, but get a grip. Maybe some soothing sedatives will calm you down a bit?

All you need do is explain how she will pay for her plans. I know it will take you away from your smear campaign for a couple od minutes.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

How well must GOP do among Hispanics to win in 2016?

The GOP has a huge mountain to climb to win the Hispanic vote, and Trump is not making it easier. It is just incredible that all the work that the GOP has done to enlarge its base has been undone by Trump in just a few months.

Actually it's more a matter of republicans starting to reach out to Hispanic Americans and then giving up after the Midterms last year, incorrectly believing that they can win elections without the support of Hispanic and other minority Americans.

 

[candycorn]

How well must GOP do among Hispanics to win in 2016?

The GOP has a huge mountain to climb to win the Hispanic vote, and Trump is not making it easier. It is just incredible that all the work that the GOP has done to enlarge its base has been undone by Trump in just a few months.

Doesn't matter, they won't get it.

 

[rightwinger]

Why do lefties consistently confuse American citizens with illegal aliens? The short answer is that they don't give a damn about the Country, it's all about politics and potential voters. Bill Clinton had a way to get Hispanic votes for his wife's (carpet bag) senatorial run. He pardoned every freaking Puerto Rican criminal doing time in NY prisons for bombing and terrorizing Americans. Why are "sanctuary cities" allowed to exist in violation of federal law? The short answer is that the democrat administration doesn't give a damn about the law or the safety of citizens. It's all about potential voters.

Hyperbole

 

[rightwinger]

How well must GOP do among Hispanics to win in 2016?

The GOP has a huge mountain to climb to win the Hispanic vote, and Trump is not making it easier. It is just incredible that all the work that the GOP has done to enlarge its base has been undone by Trump in just a few months.

Actually it's more a matter of republicans starting to reach out to Hispanic Americans and then giving up after the Midterms last year, incorrectly believing that they can win elections without the support of Hispanic and other minority Americans.

The "autopsy" after the 2012 defeat listed reaching out to Hispanics as a primary goal for 2016

Marco Rubio took it to heart and crafted a bipartisan immigration reform package that passed the Senate. Conservatives threw him under the bus for it and Rubio backed off and learned his lesson

Conservatives have no desire to get the Hispanic vote

 

[candycorn]

How well must GOP do among Hispanics to win in 2016?

The GOP has a huge mountain to climb to win the Hispanic vote, and Trump is not making it easier. It is just incredible that all the work that the GOP has done to enlarge its base has been undone by Trump in just a few months.

Trump supporters really do not care if they lose the Hispanic vote.

Note: I am not a supporter of Trump and believe if the GOP does not flush him soon they will not be able to save their chances to win this next November.

I do not feel that many of Trump's supporters care whether he is able to win the General or not. They are acting as they are some kind of Trump cult where they just blindly follow Donald. It is something I have never seen in all my years of watching Presidential races.

But I agree, time is growing short for the GOP. They can either deal with Donald now or they will be embarrassed in November 2016. Ir is their choice. And yet, if they "deal" with Donald and he percieves this as being "unfair", he will run as a Third Party. And again, the GOP will be embarassed in November 2016.

As Senator Graham said recently, he may be painful to "risk-losing-election-without-trump-than-win-with-him"

Lindsey Graham: 'Better to risk losing election without Trump' than win with him

Have you noticed? Trump has very little support. The RWNJ' s have been quick to point out lately that they are not supporting him. The cowardice had reached epidemic levels.

 

[JimH52]

And after the GOP are embarrassed in November 2016, they will ask once again, "What went wrong?"

Well, this year they might have someone to name, rightly or wrongly.

 

[Toro]

And after the GOP are embarrassed in November 2016, they will ask once again, "What went wrong?"

Well, this year they might have someone to name, rightly or wrongly.

After the last election, they concluded that they had to win more minority votes.

And so what happened?

The leading GOP candidate is going out of his way to insult minorities.

It's a recipe for success.

 

[candycorn]

And after the GOP are embarrassed in November 2016, they will ask once again, "What went wrong?"

Well, this year they might have someone to name, rightly or wrongly.

Wishful thinking.

When they lose in 2016, the causes will be (in no particular order):

• Voter fraud
• Dumb voters
• Dead voters
• Mis counts
• Hillary cheated
• They didn't want to win
• Free stuff
• Pandering

Book Mark it. The day they blame their platform of hate spiked with xenophobia, sexism, racism, and veiled threats of violence is the day pigs fly.

 

[JimH52]

I disagree, JimH

Trump has done precisely what the establishment wished for.

He has energized their Base

He has created the atmosphere where the GOP dictate the topic for the election.

He made the GOP the focus party this cycle.

The GOP establishment can play this two ways, both involves risk while at the same time offer potential for great rewards.

The ball is in their hands, and the GOP controls the games.....

and the establshment has the gall to complain!!

Energizing the base increases the margin by which you win Red States. Does nothing to help win swing states and that is why Republicans lose

same applies in the leftardian states, doofus. independents favor Trump over the hildebeast by significant numbers. That bodes well for the swing states.

No they don't.

Trump would barely break 100 electoral votes against Hillary. That is why Republicans are so scared

The thread is about general election politics and the Hispanic vote, not Trump and the Hispanic vote. If you want to morph this into another one of the 500 threads on Trump, talk to each other, lol.

The General election is won state by state not by a popular vote

States with large Hispanic populations are California, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada and Florida

Put those in the blue column and Republicans never win again

And when Texas goes Blue, which it eventually will, it will be all over for the GOP on the national level.

 

[rightwinger]

And after the GOP are embarrassed in November 2016, they will ask once again, "What went wrong?"

Well, this year they might have someone to name, rightly or wrongly.

2016 "What went wrong"
Free stuff
Left wing media
Democrats cheated
They voted for Hillary because she is a woman

Do you expect more from the party of personal responsibility?

 

[the_human_being]

How well must GOP do among Hispanics to win in 2016?

The GOP has a huge mountain to climb to win the Hispanic vote, and Trump is not making it easier. It is just incredible that all the work that the GOP has done to enlarge its base has been undone by Trump in just a few months.

Actually it's more a matter of republicans starting to reach out to Hispanic Americans and then giving up after the Midterms last year, incorrectly believing that they can win elections without the support of Hispanic and other minority Americans.

How about you explaining just how Hillary plans on paying for her $2 Trillion dollars in new spending instead of just continuing to bash and smear the opposition party's candidate? How about showing a minute degree of class for once?

 

[the_human_being]

Energizing the base increases the margin by which you win Red States. Does nothing to help win swing states and that is why Republicans lose

same applies in the leftardian states, doofus. independents favor Trump over the hildebeast by significant numbers. That bodes well for the swing states.

No they don't.

Trump would barely break 100 electoral votes against Hillary. That is why Republicans are so scared

The thread is about general election politics and the Hispanic vote, not Trump and the Hispanic vote. If you want to morph this into another one of the 500 threads on Trump, talk to each other, lol.

The General election is won state by state not by a popular vote

States with large Hispanic populations are California, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada and Florida

Put those in the blue column and Republicans never win again

And when Texas goes Blue, which it eventually will, it will be all over for the GOP on the national level.

How about you explaining just how Hillary plans on paying for her $2 Trillion dollars in new spending instead of just continuing to bash and smear the opposition party's candidate? How about showing a minute degree of class for once?

 

[the_human_being]

And after the GOP are embarrassed in November 2016, they will ask once again, "What went wrong?"

Well, this year they might have someone to name, rightly or wrongly.

After the last election, they concluded that they had to win more minority votes.

And so what happened?

The leading GOP candidate is going out of his way to insult minorities.

It's a recipe for success.

How about you explaining just how Hillary plans on paying for her $2 Trillion dollars in new spending instead of just continuing to bash and smear the opposition party's candidate? How about showing a minute degree of class for once?

 

[the_human_being]

How well must GOP do among Hispanics to win in 2016?

The GOP has a huge mountain to climb to win the Hispanic vote, and Trump is not making it easier. It is just incredible that all the work that the GOP has done to enlarge its base has been undone by Trump in just a few months.

Trump supporters really do not care if they lose the Hispanic vote.

Note: I am not a supporter of Trump and believe if the GOP does not flush him soon they will not be able to save their chances to win this next November.

I do not feel that many of Trump's supporters care whether he is able to win the General or not. They are acting as they are some kind of Trump cult where they just blindly follow Donald. It is something I have never seen in all my years of watching Presidential races.

But I agree, time is growing short for the GOP. They can either deal with Donald now or they will be embarrassed in November 2016. Ir is their choice. And yet, if they "deal" with Donald and he percieves this as being "unfair", he will run as a Third Party. And again, the GOP will be embarassed in November 2016.

As Senator Graham said recently, he may be painful to "risk-losing-election-without-trump-than-win-with-him"

Lindsey Graham: 'Better to risk losing election without Trump' than win with him

Have you noticed? Trump has very little support. The RWNJ' s have been quick to point out lately that they are not supporting him. The cowardice had reached epidemic levels.

How about you explaining just how Hillary plans on paying for her $2 Trillion dollars in new spending instead of just continuing to bash and smear the opposition party's candidate? How about showing a minute degree of class for once?

 

[rightwinger]

Energizing the base increases the margin by which you win Red States. Does nothing to help win swing states and that is why Republicans lose

same applies in the leftardian states, doofus. independents favor Trump over the hildebeast by significant numbers. That bodes well for the swing states.

No they don't.

Trump would barely break 100 electoral votes against Hillary. That is why Republicans are so scared

The thread is about general election politics and the Hispanic vote, not Trump and the Hispanic vote. If you want to morph this into another one of the 500 threads on Trump, talk to each other, lol.

The General election is won state by state not by a popular vote

States with large Hispanic populations are California, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada and Florida

Put those in the blue column and Republicans never win again

And when Texas goes Blue, which it eventually will, it will be all over for the GOP on the national level.

Almost 40% of Texas is Hispanic and over half of new births are Hispanic. Add in 12 % blacks and Republicans in Texas will have a hard time winning Texas

 

[rdean]

How well must GOP do among Hispanics to win in 2016?

The GOP has a huge mountain to climb to win the Hispanic vote, and Trump is not making it easier. It is just incredible that all the work that the GOP has done to enlarge its base has been undone by Trump in just a few months.

Do you find yourself slipping in and out of your dementia more often than once or twice a day now? If you wish, I can have my office staff set up an appointment. We have some marvelous new drugs available now that I believe would help you tremendously. Payment is required prior to treatment.

How come when someone makes sense, the idiots pop up?

 

[rightwinger]

How well must GOP do among Hispanics to win in 2016?

The GOP has a huge mountain to climb to win the Hispanic vote, and Trump is not making it easier. It is just incredible that all the work that the GOP has done to enlarge its base has been undone by Trump in just a few months.

Trump supporters really do not care if they lose the Hispanic vote.

Note: I am not a supporter of Trump and believe if the GOP does not flush him soon they will not be able to save their chances to win this next November.

I do not feel that many of Trump's supporters care whether he is able to win the General or not. They are acting as they are some kind of Trump cult where they just blindly follow Donald. It is something I have never seen in all my years of watching Presidential races.

But I agree, time is growing short for the GOP. They can either deal with Donald now or they will be embarrassed in November 2016. Ir is their choice. And yet, if they "deal" with Donald and he percieves this as being "unfair", he will run as a Third Party. And again, the GOP will be embarassed in November 2016.

As Senator Graham said recently, he may be painful to "risk-losing-election-without-trump-than-win-with-him"

Lindsey Graham: 'Better to risk losing election without Trump' than win with him

Have you noticed? Trump has very little support. The RWNJ' s have been quick to point out lately that they are not supporting him. The cowardice had reached epidemic levels.

How about you explaining just how Hillary plans on paying for her $2 Trillion dollars in new spending instead of just continuing to bash and smear the opposition party's candidate? How about showing a minute degree of class for once?

Hillary will spend $2 trillion on infrastructure, healthcare and education and make Mexico pay for it