I can’t breathe again but in LA cops

[marvin martian]

It says "under suspicion ". They killed him before they even knew anything. Welcome to fascist America

Not really America, just the places run by people like you.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

The force tried to cover this up. While all did not do this, all tried to cover it up.

We'll have to wait and see which particular cops broke laws here, and mistreated the man. That still doesn't mean we need to tear our police depts apart, the vast majority do good things every day but we all conveniently look the other way, and focus on only the bad.

 

[Colin norris]

Not really America, just the places run by people like you.

Very poor rebuttal. Try again you racist pig.

 

[pknopp]

Not really America, just the places run by people like you.

Here again, you are unable to address the issue so you have to make your post about the people participating.

 

[pknopp]

We'll have to wait and see which particular cops broke laws here, and mistreated the man. That still doesn't mean we need to tear our police depts apart, the vast majority do good things every day but we all conveniently look the other way, and focus on only the bad.

We absolutely need to tear apart the system that covers for cops when they do wrong. The police should never be allowed to investigate themselves or try to keep what they did from the public.

 

[Curried Goats]

The state of California and the CHP are both run by DemoKKKrats just like you.

When will you start demanding better? Never?

Moron, what do you think all those protests were about?

If we all had to guess which citizens would be dropping to their knees to fellate cops and excuse this type of behavior from police it would obviously be the white wing, blue lives matter crowd.

 

[Mac-7]

Fascinating....and people wonder why those on the Right get called racists.

If so its because libs do not understand the words they use

merely criticizing black misbehavior is not racism

 

[Mac-7]

It says "under suspicion ". They killed him before they even knew anything. Welcome to fascist America

They knew he wasnt going to allow a BAT without a fight

 

[Curried Goats]

They knew he wasnt going to allow BAT without a fight

So they needed to kill him in order to draw his blood in order to properly convict him of a DUI? Got to love that logic. Like shooting a man dead who's threatening to throw himself from a roof.

 

[Mac-7]

So they needed to kill him in order to draw his blood in order to properly convict him of a DUI?

They were not going to let him go free

 

[Curried Goats]

They were not going to let him go free

There's no middle ground between not letting him go free and murdering him?

 

[Mac-7]

There's no middle ground between not letting him go free and murdering him?

‘Splain it to us Ricky

how would you get him to submit?

 

[Seymour Flops]

Why was this blood draw attempted in the parking garage? They had him in cuffs, why not take him inside and hook him up to an interrogation table and put ankle cuffs on? Or better yet, just use the fact that he fought against the blood draw as evidence in his DUI trial, which can also tack on contempt of court, and whatever the crime is for physically resisting an officer's attempt to enforce the court order.

Trying to forcibly draw blood from a man who is fighting is a good way to get stuck with that needle after it is stuck in the "patient," something that used to be feared even more than a maskless kindergartener. The last time I had blood drawn, I had to have a rubber "tourniquet" on my upper arm and open and close my fist while sitting very still to allow the needle to go into the middle of a vein. How they going to do that with a man who struggling?

The police mentality of making every confrontation into a battle of wills, which police officers must win at all costs, is the cause of the death of this man, George Floyd, and countless others.

 

[Curried Goats]

‘Splain it to us Ricky

how would you get him to submit?

I wouldn't. I believe the 4th amendment is supposed to prohibit unreasonable searches and seizures and I think holding a man down and poking him with a needle to draw blood in order to convict him of a DUI is the very definition of unreasonable seizure and surely murdering him in order to obtain his blood to use in a court case renders said court case moot but why should logic stop a white winger from supporting state murder even as they shout about needing the 2nd Amendment to protect them from tyrannical government?

 

[Orangecat]

The guy had a daughter

He still does. Resisting police often has undesirable consequences. Proceed with caution.

 

[Mac-7]

I wouldn't. I believe the 4th amendment is supposed to prohibit unreasonable searches and seizures and I think holding a man down and poking him with a needle to draw blood in order to convict him of a DUI is the very definition of unreasonable seizure and surely murdering him in order to obtain his blood in court case renders said court case moot but why should logic stop a white winger from supporting state murder even as they shout about needing the 2nd Amendment to protect them from tyrannical government.

I’m sure he failed a field sobriety test first

the cops had probable cause and a court order from a real judge wearing black robes and everything

 

[Curried Goats]

I’m sure he failed a field sobriety test first

the cops had probable cause and a court order from a real judge wearing black robes and everything

And you don't think murdering a man to obtain his blood for a court case he won't be alive to stand trail for counts as unreasonable?

 

[Mac-7]

And you don't think murdering a man to obtain his blood for a court case counts as unreasonable?

You continue using the word “murdered” without justification

it was his choice to fight the cops rather accept the blood test

 

[Curried Goats]

You continue using the word “murdered” without justification

it was his choice to fight the cops rather accept the blood test

I watched the video. I didn't see the man on his knees with his hands cuffed behind him fighting anybody. Do you even know what a fight looks like?

 

[Big Bend Texas]

‘I can’t breathe’: Chilling video shows death of California man pinned down by cops

Edward Bronstein, 38, was taken into custody on suspicion of driving under the influence by a California Highway Patrol officer during a traffic stop in 2020.

nypost.com

These cops must all be fired and tried on murder charges
. This cannot be tolerated
It’s LA and I hope he gets a very very Jewish attorney

That knee to the neck shit has to go.

The guy is dead due to the choices he made that night but that doesn't remove the responsibility of the officers.

Once a suspect is in custody they have an affirmative duty to protect them from harm.

Put yourself in the position as a juror and ask yourself one question, "was this the only means by which they could get a blood draw?

If the answer is, "no" the agency owes the family basically a blank check.

Someone who is an expert in department and state policy guidelines for handling a suspect also needs to chime in because if they acted out of policy they have no relief from being personally sued as well under the limited liability statutes.

Then comes the question, if they acted within policy can they be charged? No, generally not.

If they acted out of policy, then even with their limited immunity that would be a question for the DA to answer but in all likelihood yes, they can and should be charged.