I Don't Care if Trump followed the Law and Didn't Pay Taxes.

[jc456]

Mediocre??? He's one of the most successful in the US complements from Forbes!!!

Only if you measure Trump's success by what Trump says. However, most of us measure the success of a business by it's growth, not by what the owner claims. Using Forbes net work estimate of 1.5 billion in 1988 and 4.6 billion in 2016, that equates to a yearly annual growth rate of only 4%. By comparison an S&P 500 index fund would have produce an annual return of 11.8%. 10 year US treasury bonds purchased in 1988 would yield 8.8%

In other words, Donald could have invested his 1.5 billion in an S&P500 index fund and it would have been worth 17 billion less what he withdrew as salary

Donald Trump is certainly not a terrible businessman. He just isn't a very good one. Had he stuck with what he knew, real estate he could have been much more successful. However, his undisciplined approach to business and financial management was his Achilles heal just as it has been in his personal and political live.


A History of Donald Trump's Net Worth Publicity (1988-2011)
Annual Rate of Return Calculator

how many new structures has he built since 1995? curious if you've even checked. Isn't that success?

No, in business we measure success by profits.

Agreed. Without profit, one doesn't get new investors. D'OH aka, new buildings

Donald Trump does not build buildings these days. Haven't you been listing to him speaking out about his business. He licenses the Trump name to developers. It's a guaranteed profit, no investment, no risk, no expenses.

From the very beginning, the motive behind Trump's campaign has been to enhancing the Trump name. He has mentioned several times that his brand name is his most valuable asset and how notariety enhances it. Whether that's true after his latest debacle remains to be seen.

yeah, like the Post office in between the White House and Congress, right? The one he's now discussed on two debates? you got your ears closed? WTF

 

[Flopper]

Only if you measure Trump's success by what Trump says. However, most of us measure the success of a business by it's growth, not by what the owner claims. Using Forbes net work estimate of 1.5 billion in 1988 and 4.6 billion in 2016, that equates to a yearly annual growth rate of only 4%. By comparison an S&P 500 index fund would have produce an annual return of 11.8%. 10 year US treasury bonds purchased in 1988 would yield 8.8%

In other words, Donald could have invested his 1.5 billion in an S&P500 index fund and it would have been worth 17 billion less what he withdrew as salary

Donald Trump is certainly not a terrible businessman. He just isn't a very good one. Had he stuck with what he knew, real estate he could have been much more successful. However, his undisciplined approach to business and financial management was his Achilles heal just as it has been in his personal and political live.


A History of Donald Trump's Net Worth Publicity (1988-2011)
Annual Rate of Return Calculator

how many new structures has he built since 1995? curious if you've even checked. Isn't that success?

No, in business we measure success by profits.

Agreed. Without profit, one doesn't get new investors. D'OH aka, new buildings

Donald Trump does not build buildings these days. Haven't you been listing to him speaking out about his business. He licenses the Trump name to developers. It's a guaranteed profit, no investment, no risk, no expenses.

From the very beginning, the motive behind Trump's campaign has been to enhancing the Trump name. He has mentioned several times that his brand name is his most valuable asset and how notariety enhances it. Whether that's true after his latest debacle remains to be seen.

yeah, like the Post office in between the White House and Congress, right? The one he's now discussed on two debates? you got your ears closed? WTF

Trump started this project over 4 years ago and construction began 3 years ago. Trump licensing of his brand name started some years ago but has accelerated in the last 3 years. Speculation is that if Trump is elected president, the Trump Organization will concentrate on managing current property and licensing.

 

[jillian]

Does that affect me? No. Half the country doesn't pay taxes and their income is from the government! Do the laws have to be changed? Yes! The rich should lose their loopholes and the people who those that are on the government teat should have some skin in the game as well.

Let's talk about the important issues of this election. Security for the US; immigration laws followed; building a wall to discourage boundary runners; bringing back jobs for American citizens.

Those same loopholes help small businesses too. If you want to bring people down then go ahead and eliminate the ability to carry your losses forward. You'll destroy business even more in America. There will be even less jobs.
Real Estate by its nature is pretty risky, a lot of things can go wrong but we need people willing to invest in infrastructure. Your focusing on one rich guy at the top but what your not thinking about is these same rules help people move up from the bottom as well.

no one expects you to hold him to the same standard you hold hillary clinton. as long as he keeps saying vile, disgusting things that you want him to say, you're fine with the orange bigoted fascist. luckily he can't move the dial with anyone except old angry uneducated white males. so you totally fit his demographic.

and the last NBC/Wall St Journal poll has Clinton up by 11 points.

good luck with that.

 

[Yarddog]

Does that affect me? No. Half the country doesn't pay taxes and their income is from the government! Do the laws have to be changed? Yes! The rich should lose their loopholes and the people who those that are on the government teat should have some skin in the game as well.

Let's talk about the important issues of this election. Security for the US; immigration laws followed; building a wall to discourage boundary runners; bringing back jobs for American citizens.

Those same loopholes help small businesses too. If you want to bring people down then go ahead and eliminate the ability to carry your losses forward. You'll destroy business even more in America. There will be even less jobs.
Real Estate by its nature is pretty risky, a lot of things can go wrong but we need people willing to invest in infrastructure. Your focusing on one rich guy at the top but what your not thinking about is these same rules help people move up from the bottom as well.

no one expects you to hold him to the same standard you hold hillary clinton. as long as he keeps saying vile, disgusting things that you want him to say, you're fine with the orange bigoted fascist. luckily he can't move the dial with anyone except old angry uneducated white males. so you totally fit his demographic.

and the last NBC/Wall St Journal poll has Clinton up by 11 points.

good luck with that.

What does your post have to do with tax loopholes?, where does the standard by which we judge hillary come in here? but since you mention that, yes, If Trump is ordered to hand over information in a supeona and he then has it destroyed... yes trump should go to jail for that, or if in office like Nixon was, he should be impeached. Glad you got that straight now. As for your ridiculous leap into what you think my personal moral standards are, well its ok with me if you continue to become unhinged.

 

[jc456]

how many new structures has he built since 1995? curious if you've even checked. Isn't that success?

No, in business we measure success by profits.

Agreed. Without profit, one doesn't get new investors. D'OH aka, new buildings

Donald Trump does not build buildings these days. Haven't you been listing to him speaking out about his business. He licenses the Trump name to developers. It's a guaranteed profit, no investment, no risk, no expenses.

From the very beginning, the motive behind Trump's campaign has been to enhancing the Trump name. He has mentioned several times that his brand name is his most valuable asset and how notariety enhances it. Whether that's true after his latest debacle remains to be seen.

yeah, like the Post office in between the White House and Congress, right? The one he's now discussed on two debates? you got your ears closed? WTF

Trump started this project over 4 years ago and construction began 3 years ago. Trump licensing of his brand name started some years ago but has accelerated in the last 3 years. Speculation is that if Trump is elected president, the Trump Organization will concentrate on managing current property and licensing.

and?

 

[jc456]

Does that affect me? No. Half the country doesn't pay taxes and their income is from the government! Do the laws have to be changed? Yes! The rich should lose their loopholes and the people who those that are on the government teat should have some skin in the game as well.

Let's talk about the important issues of this election. Security for the US; immigration laws followed; building a wall to discourage boundary runners; bringing back jobs for American citizens.

Those same loopholes help small businesses too. If you want to bring people down then go ahead and eliminate the ability to carry your losses forward. You'll destroy business even more in America. There will be even less jobs.
Real Estate by its nature is pretty risky, a lot of things can go wrong but we need people willing to invest in infrastructure. Your focusing on one rich guy at the top but what your not thinking about is these same rules help people move up from the bottom as well.

no one expects you to hold him to the same standard you hold hillary clinton. as long as he keeps saying vile, disgusting things that you want him to say, you're fine with the orange bigoted fascist. luckily he can't move the dial with anyone except old angry uneducated white males. so you totally fit his demographic.

and the last NBC/Wall St Journal poll has Clinton up by 11 points.

good luck with that.

the most vile action in the country is the inaction by secretary clinton and letting four americans die in benghazi. Never forget the four americans. Hitlery did. unfit for citizen let alone president.

 

[playtime]

Only if you measure Trump's success by what Trump says. However, most of us measure the success of a business by it's growth, not by what the owner claims. Using Forbes net work estimate of 1.5 billion in 1988 and 4.6 billion in 2016, that equates to a yearly annual growth rate of only 4%. By comparison an S&P 500 index fund would have produce an annual return of 11.8%. 10 year US treasury bonds purchased in 1988 would yield 8.8%

In other words, Donald could have invested his 1.5 billion in an S&P500 index fund and it would have been worth 17 billion less what he withdrew as salary

Donald Trump is certainly not a terrible businessman. He just isn't a very good one. Had he stuck with what he knew, real estate he could have been much more successful. However, his undisciplined approach to business and financial management was his Achilles heal just as it has been in his personal and political live.


A History of Donald Trump's Net Worth Publicity (1988-2011)
Annual Rate of Return Calculator

how many new structures has he built since 1995? curious if you've even checked. Isn't that success?

No, in business we measure success by profits.

Agreed. Without profit, one doesn't get new investors. D'OH aka, new buildings

Donald Trump does not build buildings these days. Haven't you been listing to him speaking out about his business. He licenses the Trump name to developers. It's a guaranteed profit, no investment, no risk, no expenses.

From the very beginning, the motive behind Trump's campaign has been to enhancing the Trump name. He has mentioned several times that his brand name is his most valuable asset and how notariety enhances it. Whether that's true after his latest debacle remains to be seen.

IOW, smart business moves.

so you like being a rube turned pawn in his little game?

 

[playtime]

Mediocre??? He's one of the most successful in the US complements from Forbes!!!

Only if you measure Trump's success by what Trump says. However, most of us measure the success of a business by it's growth, not by what the owner claims. Using Forbes net work estimate of 1.5 billion in 1988 and 4.6 billion in 2016, that equates to a yearly annual growth rate of only 4%. By comparison an S&P 500 index fund would have produce an annual return of 11.8%. 10 year US treasury bonds purchased in 1988 would yield 8.8%

In other words, Donald could have invested his 1.5 billion in an S&P500 index fund and it would have been worth 17 billion less what he withdrew as salary

Donald Trump is certainly not a terrible businessman. He just isn't a very good one. Had he stuck with what he knew, real estate he could have been much more successful. However, his undisciplined approach to business and financial management was his Achilles heal just as it has been in his personal and political live.


A History of Donald Trump's Net Worth Publicity (1988-2011)
Annual Rate of Return Calculator

how many new structures has he built since 1995? curious if you've even checked. Isn't that success?

No, in business we measure success by profits.

Agreed. Without profit, one doesn't get new investors. D'OH aka, new buildings

Donald Trump does not build buildings these days. Haven't you been listing to him speaking out about his business. He licenses the Trump name to developers. It's a guaranteed profit, no investment, no risk, no expenses.

From the very beginning, the motive behind Trump's campaign has been to enhancing the Trump name. He has mentioned several times that his brand name is his most valuable asset and how notariety enhances it. Whether that's true after his latest debacle remains to be seen.

that is a result of being put on an allowance with the banks he was indebted to... he still had his name & that meant some $$$ that would be funneled back to them, since drumpf was defaulting & going bankrupt.

 

[playtime]

Does that affect me? No. Half the country doesn't pay taxes and their income is from the government! Do the laws have to be changed? Yes! The rich should lose their loopholes and the people who those that are on the government teat should have some skin in the game as well.

Let's talk about the important issues of this election. Security for the US; immigration laws followed; building a wall to discourage boundary runners; bringing back jobs for American citizens.

Those same loopholes help small businesses too. If you want to bring people down then go ahead and eliminate the ability to carry your losses forward. You'll destroy business even more in America. There will be even less jobs.
Real Estate by its nature is pretty risky, a lot of things can go wrong but we need people willing to invest in infrastructure. Your focusing on one rich guy at the top but what your not thinking about is these same rules help people move up from the bottom as well.

no one expects you to hold him to the same standard you hold hillary clinton. as long as he keeps saying vile, disgusting things that you want him to say, you're fine with the orange bigoted fascist. luckily he can't move the dial with anyone except old angry uneducated white males. so you totally fit his demographic.

and the last NBC/Wall St Journal poll has Clinton up by 11 points.

good luck with that.

the most vile action in the country is the inaction by secretary clinton and letting four americans die in benghazi. Never forget the four americans. Hitlery did. unfit for citizen let alone president.

& yet a minimum of 8 investigations say otherwise. but you go on

 

[playtime]

how many new structures has he built since 1995? curious if you've even checked. Isn't that success?

No, in business we measure success by profits.

Agreed. Without profit, one doesn't get new investors. D'OH aka, new buildings

Donald Trump does not build buildings these days. Haven't you been listing to him speaking out about his business. He licenses the Trump name to developers. It's a guaranteed profit, no investment, no risk, no expenses.

From the very beginning, the motive behind Trump's campaign has been to enhancing the Trump name. He has mentioned several times that his brand name is his most valuable asset and how notariety enhances it. Whether that's true after his latest debacle remains to be seen.

yeah, like the Post office in between the White House and Congress, right? The one he's now discussed on two debates? you got your ears closed? WTF

Trump started this project over 4 years ago and construction began 3 years ago. Trump licensing of his brand name started some years ago but has accelerated in the last 3 years. Speculation is that if Trump is elected president, the Trump Organization will concentrate on managing current property and licensing.

he'll also try to get his business to build that freakin' wall.

 

[percysunshine]

Ahh...a flat tax thread.

It is really what this is all about. All arguments reduce to proposing or opposing a flat tax.

 

[kaz]

how many new structures has he built since 1995? curious if you've even checked. Isn't that success?

No, in business we measure success by profits.

Agreed. Without profit, one doesn't get new investors. D'OH aka, new buildings

Donald Trump does not build buildings these days. Haven't you been listing to him speaking out about his business. He licenses the Trump name to developers. It's a guaranteed profit, no investment, no risk, no expenses.

From the very beginning, the motive behind Trump's campaign has been to enhancing the Trump name. He has mentioned several times that his brand name is his most valuable asset and how notariety enhances it. Whether that's true after his latest debacle remains to be seen.

IOW, smart business moves.

so you like being a rube turned pawn in his little game?

Yes, Hillary is in this because she cares about you. What a dumb ass

 

[kaz]

No, in business we measure success by profits.

Agreed. Without profit, one doesn't get new investors. D'OH aka, new buildings

Donald Trump does not build buildings these days. Haven't you been listing to him speaking out about his business. He licenses the Trump name to developers. It's a guaranteed profit, no investment, no risk, no expenses.

From the very beginning, the motive behind Trump's campaign has been to enhancing the Trump name. He has mentioned several times that his brand name is his most valuable asset and how notariety enhances it. Whether that's true after his latest debacle remains to be seen.

yeah, like the Post office in between the White House and Congress, right? The one he's now discussed on two debates? you got your ears closed? WTF

Trump started this project over 4 years ago and construction began 3 years ago. Trump licensing of his brand name started some years ago but has accelerated in the last 3 years. Speculation is that if Trump is elected president, the Trump Organization will concentrate on managing current property and licensing.

he'll also try to get his business to build that freakin' wall.

And the chick crosses over to bat shit crazy!

 

[playtime]

No, in business we measure success by profits.

Agreed. Without profit, one doesn't get new investors. D'OH aka, new buildings

Donald Trump does not build buildings these days. Haven't you been listing to him speaking out about his business. He licenses the Trump name to developers. It's a guaranteed profit, no investment, no risk, no expenses.

From the very beginning, the motive behind Trump's campaign has been to enhancing the Trump name. He has mentioned several times that his brand name is his most valuable asset and how notariety enhances it. Whether that's true after his latest debacle remains to be seen.

IOW, smart business moves.

so you like being a rube turned pawn in his little game?

Yes, Hillary is in this because she cares about you. What a dumb ass

actually, I don't have blinders on. all politicians care about themselves first.

& so do fascists. but there is a distinct difference.

here's a little job for you... please list the public service & the philanthropical history of trump's career going back to as early as you can. m'k? let's see what you come up with.

 

[playtime]

Agreed. Without profit, one doesn't get new investors. D'OH aka, new buildings

Donald Trump does not build buildings these days. Haven't you been listing to him speaking out about his business. He licenses the Trump name to developers. It's a guaranteed profit, no investment, no risk, no expenses.

From the very beginning, the motive behind Trump's campaign has been to enhancing the Trump name. He has mentioned several times that his brand name is his most valuable asset and how notariety enhances it. Whether that's true after his latest debacle remains to be seen.

yeah, like the Post office in between the White House and Congress, right? The one he's now discussed on two debates? you got your ears closed? WTF

Trump started this project over 4 years ago and construction began 3 years ago. Trump licensing of his brand name started some years ago but has accelerated in the last 3 years. Speculation is that if Trump is elected president, the Trump Organization will concentrate on managing current property and licensing.

he'll also try to get his business to build that freakin' wall.

And the chick crosses over to bat shit crazy!

awwww sweety... he even said he could make $$$ off of his run as POTUS. why not with his construction biz too? he also chimed in with getting the Mexicans to pay for it cheaply too.
you don't think he would try despite the conflict of interest?

gimmee a break... he thinks he could personally have Hillary put in jail. it wasn't 'sarcasm'... he was dead serious.

just

like

a

fascist.

 

[hadit]

how many new structures has he built since 1995? curious if you've even checked. Isn't that success?

No, in business we measure success by profits.

Agreed. Without profit, one doesn't get new investors. D'OH aka, new buildings

Donald Trump does not build buildings these days. Haven't you been listing to him speaking out about his business. He licenses the Trump name to developers. It's a guaranteed profit, no investment, no risk, no expenses.

From the very beginning, the motive behind Trump's campaign has been to enhancing the Trump name. He has mentioned several times that his brand name is his most valuable asset and how notariety enhances it. Whether that's true after his latest debacle remains to be seen.

IOW, smart business moves.

so you like being a rube turned pawn in his little game?

How does that even apply?

 

[kaz]

Agreed. Without profit, one doesn't get new investors. D'OH aka, new buildings

Donald Trump does not build buildings these days. Haven't you been listing to him speaking out about his business. He licenses the Trump name to developers. It's a guaranteed profit, no investment, no risk, no expenses.

From the very beginning, the motive behind Trump's campaign has been to enhancing the Trump name. He has mentioned several times that his brand name is his most valuable asset and how notariety enhances it. Whether that's true after his latest debacle remains to be seen.

IOW, smart business moves.

so you like being a rube turned pawn in his little game?

Yes, Hillary is in this because she cares about you. What a dumb ass

actually, I don't have blinders on. all politicians care about themselves first.

& so do fascists. but there is a distinct difference.

here's a little job for you... please list the public service & the philanthropical history of trump's career going back to as early as you can. m'k? let's see what you come up with.

"Public service?" To be a politician, you have to BE A POLITICIAN!

How's that working out for you? Check out the national debt lately?

 

[playtime]

No, in business we measure success by profits.

Agreed. Without profit, one doesn't get new investors. D'OH aka, new buildings

Donald Trump does not build buildings these days. Haven't you been listing to him speaking out about his business. He licenses the Trump name to developers. It's a guaranteed profit, no investment, no risk, no expenses.

From the very beginning, the motive behind Trump's campaign has been to enhancing the Trump name. He has mentioned several times that his brand name is his most valuable asset and how notariety enhances it. Whether that's true after his latest debacle remains to be seen.

IOW, smart business moves.

so you like being a rube turned pawn in his little game?

How does that even apply?

you think it is smart business to use his supporters just to further his agenda...which is not to lead this country & do right by its citizens, but to further his brand. & his supporters are doing exactly that.

 

[kaz]

Agreed. Without profit, one doesn't get new investors. D'OH aka, new buildings

Donald Trump does not build buildings these days. Haven't you been listing to him speaking out about his business. He licenses the Trump name to developers. It's a guaranteed profit, no investment, no risk, no expenses.

From the very beginning, the motive behind Trump's campaign has been to enhancing the Trump name. He has mentioned several times that his brand name is his most valuable asset and how notariety enhances it. Whether that's true after his latest debacle remains to be seen.

IOW, smart business moves.

so you like being a rube turned pawn in his little game?

Yes, Hillary is in this because she cares about you. What a dumb ass

actually, I don't have blinders on. all politicians care about themselves first

Which is why you only criticize Trump for it, you know they're all like that. There's a word for that. It'll come to me. It starts with an "h" and ends with "ypocrisy" ...

 

[hadit]

Agreed. Without profit, one doesn't get new investors. D'OH aka, new buildings

Donald Trump does not build buildings these days. Haven't you been listing to him speaking out about his business. He licenses the Trump name to developers. It's a guaranteed profit, no investment, no risk, no expenses.

From the very beginning, the motive behind Trump's campaign has been to enhancing the Trump name. He has mentioned several times that his brand name is his most valuable asset and how notariety enhances it. Whether that's true after his latest debacle remains to be seen.

IOW, smart business moves.

so you like being a rube turned pawn in his little game?

How does that even apply?

you think it is smart business to use his supporters just to further his agenda...which is not to lead this country & do right by its citizens, but to further his brand. & his supporters are doing exactly that.

The goal of a business man is to make money. If a business man can make money simply by licensing his name, it's smart business to do so. Is that not clear?