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No we live in Europe now. By the way, as you undoubtedly know time does have a big impact of the survive-ability of cancer. The earlier you diagnose the better your chances. The woman in question did NOT get the test until she felt something to be really wrong. This for no better reason that she couldn't really afford it.does she live here? Likely the woman would die of cancer. not sure how that's on anyone but her lousy luck. My wife's sister died of cancer.Yes, my wife IS American.in the US?REALLY? My brother in law got hit by a car without insurance. This meant that the ER did nothing more then stabilizing his shattered shoulder before they send him on his way. He couldn't afford the reconstructive surgery required and as a result has now less then 50 percent mobility in that arm. The mother of a friend of my wife likely died because she couldn't afford going to the doctor and have the test that would have diagnosed her cancer. That's 2 examples in my wide circle.that's pure bullshit. not in this country. anyone can get access to a doctor. almost anytime.
My mom and dad both died of dementia.
You made that shit up. Shame on you. You disgust me.It amazes my that people complain about not being able to afford healthcare but can afford a 70in wide screen and carry $20,000 in credit card debt.
Not at all. If my taxes pay for it I DO pay. I live in Belgium, a country that has a tax rate that would make you blanch. On the other hand I have affordable ( not free) healthcare for half of the price. Why is it that all you Republicans constantly claim that only paying out of pocket constitutes paying?doctors are available to all. you are in error.Oh and btw.46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The NumberAnd their "one" basic service is "Medicare for all"
How many times do I have to point out to idiots like you and them THERE NEVER were 46 million uninsured Americans as Obama stated and idiots like you believe!
YET we hear/read this screaming for "Medicare for All"! We are talking about less than 5 million people that WANT and need health insurance! NOT 46 million!
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The fact that some people in the US, the richest country in the world does NOT balk at having citizens incapable of having access to high quality healthcare is something that to me is baffling.
you mean you want free doctors.
Leftists consider having to pay for stuff themselves to be "not having access".
I dunno about Belgium, but if you're submitting to that level of taxes, you're nuts. If you think your healthcare is "affordable" despite paying that level of taxes, you're beyond nuts.
You misunderstand what we're saying. The issue here isn't whether we're paying out of pocket or through taxes; the issue is that OTHER people aren't paying through taxes OR out of their own pockets. When leftists blather about wanting to raise taxes so that "everyone has access to high quality healthcare", what they're saying is that they want ME to pay for THEIR healthcare.
Hence my statement that leftists don't think they have "access to healthcare" if they're in any way having to pay for it themselves, rather than having someone else pony up.
Massive, crippling debt.how you figure. It is statistically correct that if you took away all of the money and handed it out, the money would be all used up and gone. So now you have no money. What next poindexter?The whole thing is based on a straw man.A growing number of really uninformed students are declaring Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders, et.al. are correct regarding socialism and how we should rob the rich and deliver to the poor.
OK... two examples both of which may be fiction but still present the truth!
The earth's population is 7,000,000,000
Total wealth of the world after deducting all liabilities: $280,000,000,000,000
Richest 1% now owns half the world's wealth
So if progressives/socialists/Democrats had their way, we divide the wealth of the world and each of us would have $36,364... one time right.
They would see that as fair. Right.
But wait...A large proportion of the population in developing countries live on under $1 or $2 per day
Standard of Living in the Developing World | GiveWell
So these people given $36,364 to live on would last...50 years.
Average American spent in 2017 $100 per day in living.
Gallup Daily: U.S. Consumer Spending
$36,364/$100 per day means.. that would last 1 year.
Hmmm... wonder how many of the progressives/socialists/Democrats would be around?
Now this example really strikes home.
And I defy any Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders, et.al. supporter to prove this is wrong. That if we all decided not to do better than the next person... where would we be?
Oh and remember there is only one leader in the below. Right?
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And yet the fact is what he posted is what happens.Newsflash...when you post something that "may be made up" it is by definition...NOT valid
A 70 inch wide screen costs about $800It amazes my that people complain about not being able to afford healthcare but can afford a 70in wide screen and carry $20,000 in credit card debt. Could it be they just that their priorities are screwed up. They afford the fun things but want the rest of the country to supply their healthcare. Teach your kids to get their priorities right.
Your confused and distorted version of socialism.The whole thing is based on a straw man.A growing number of really uninformed students are declaring Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders, et.al. are correct regarding socialism and how we should rob the rich and deliver to the poor.
OK... two examples both of which may be fiction but still present the truth!
The earth's population is 7,000,000,000
Total wealth of the world after deducting all liabilities: $280,000,000,000,000
Richest 1% now owns half the world's wealth
So if progressives/socialists/Democrats had their way, we divide the wealth of the world and each of us would have $36,364... one time right.
They would see that as fair. Right.
But wait...A large proportion of the population in developing countries live on under $1 or $2 per day
Standard of Living in the Developing World | GiveWell
So these people given $36,364 to live on would last...50 years.
Average American spent in 2017 $100 per day in living.
Gallup Daily: U.S. Consumer Spending
$36,364/$100 per day means.. that would last 1 year.
Hmmm... wonder how many of the progressives/socialists/Democrats would be around?
Now this example really strikes home.
And I defy any Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders, et.al. supporter to prove this is wrong. That if we all decided not to do better than the next person... where would we be?
Oh and remember there is only one leader in the below. Right?
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Yes, it is. Socialism is not what you are representing it as.The whole thing is based on a straw man.A growing number of really uninformed students are declaring Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders, et.al. are correct regarding socialism and how we should rob the rich and deliver to the poor.
OK... two examples both of which may be fiction but still present the truth!
The earth's population is 7,000,000,000
Total wealth of the world after deducting all liabilities: $280,000,000,000,000
Richest 1% now owns half the world's wealth
So if progressives/socialists/Democrats had their way, we divide the wealth of the world and each of us would have $36,364... one time right.
They would see that as fair. Right.
But wait...A large proportion of the population in developing countries live on under $1 or $2 per day
Standard of Living in the Developing World | GiveWell
So these people given $36,364 to live on would last...50 years.
Average American spent in 2017 $100 per day in living.
Gallup Daily: U.S. Consumer Spending
$36,364/$100 per day means.. that would last 1 year.
Hmmm... wonder how many of the progressives/socialists/Democrats would be around?
Now this example really strikes home.
And I defy any Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders, et.al. supporter to prove this is wrong. That if we all decided not to do better than the next person... where would we be?
Oh and remember there is only one leader in the below. Right?
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What "whole thing" is based on a "an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument." i.e. "straw man"?
Is is the "socialism" of Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders, et.al. supporter, or is the whole thing my two examples?
That's not socialism.how you figure. It is statistically correct that if you took away all of the money and handed it out, the money would be all used up and gone. So now you have no money. What next poindexter?The whole thing is based on a straw man.A growing number of really uninformed students are declaring Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders, et.al. are correct regarding socialism and how we should rob the rich and deliver to the poor.
OK... two examples both of which may be fiction but still present the truth!
The earth's population is 7,000,000,000
Total wealth of the world after deducting all liabilities: $280,000,000,000,000
Richest 1% now owns half the world's wealth
So if progressives/socialists/Democrats had their way, we divide the wealth of the world and each of us would have $36,364... one time right.
They would see that as fair. Right.
But wait...A large proportion of the population in developing countries live on under $1 or $2 per day
Standard of Living in the Developing World | GiveWell
So these people given $36,364 to live on would last...50 years.
Average American spent in 2017 $100 per day in living.
Gallup Daily: U.S. Consumer Spending
$36,364/$100 per day means.. that would last 1 year.
Hmmm... wonder how many of the progressives/socialists/Democrats would be around?
Now this example really strikes home.
And I defy any Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders, et.al. supporter to prove this is wrong. That if we all decided not to do better than the next person... where would we be?
Oh and remember there is only one leader in the below. Right?
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No, you are just mindlessly repeating republican talking points.oh bullshit, you know very well they all want equal money to all. you all are evil.-Yours is. Find me one time..... one single time that Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders suggested that ALL people should get an equal wage? The proposition the two latter give is that the rich pay a proportional higher amount in taxes to make SOME basic services available to all Americans. Obama does the same in a lesser amount. This is NOT the same as suggesting that everybody gets the same amount of money. So a strawman.The whole thing is based on a straw man.A growing number of really uninformed students are declaring Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders, et.al. are correct regarding socialism and how we should rob the rich and deliver to the poor.
OK... two examples both of which may be fiction but still present the truth!
The earth's population is 7,000,000,000
Total wealth of the world after deducting all liabilities: $280,000,000,000,000
Richest 1% now owns half the world's wealth
So if progressives/socialists/Democrats had their way, we divide the wealth of the world and each of us would have $36,364... one time right.
They would see that as fair. Right.
But wait...A large proportion of the population in developing countries live on under $1 or $2 per day
Standard of Living in the Developing World | GiveWell
So these people given $36,364 to live on would last...50 years.
Average American spent in 2017 $100 per day in living.
Gallup Daily: U.S. Consumer Spending
$36,364/$100 per day means.. that would last 1 year.
Hmmm... wonder how many of the progressives/socialists/Democrats would be around?
Now this example really strikes home.
And I defy any Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders, et.al. supporter to prove this is wrong. That if we all decided not to do better than the next person... where would we be?
Oh and remember there is only one leader in the below. Right?
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What "whole thing" is based on a "an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument." i.e. "straw man"?
Is is the "socialism" of Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders, et.al. supporter, or is the whole thing my two examples?
- Not for nothing nearly all countries in the world have a system were part of the money people make is taken by the government to be redistributed to the population to provide services in one way or another. The basic disagreement is what for,where, and how much money the government takes. You made it about something else altogether.
You mean like what tRump has done to enrich himself and his buddies?Massive, crippling debt.how you figure. It is statistically correct that if you took away all of the money and handed it out, the money would be all used up and gone. So now you have no money. What next poindexter?The whole thing is based on a straw man.A growing number of really uninformed students are declaring Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders, et.al. are correct regarding socialism and how we should rob the rich and deliver to the poor.
OK... two examples both of which may be fiction but still present the truth!
The earth's population is 7,000,000,000
Total wealth of the world after deducting all liabilities: $280,000,000,000,000
Richest 1% now owns half the world's wealth
So if progressives/socialists/Democrats had their way, we divide the wealth of the world and each of us would have $36,364... one time right.
They would see that as fair. Right.
But wait...A large proportion of the population in developing countries live on under $1 or $2 per day
Standard of Living in the Developing World | GiveWell
So these people given $36,364 to live on would last...50 years.
Average American spent in 2017 $100 per day in living.
Gallup Daily: U.S. Consumer Spending
$36,364/$100 per day means.. that would last 1 year.
Hmmm... wonder how many of the progressives/socialists/Democrats would be around?
Now this example really strikes home.
And I defy any Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders, et.al. supporter to prove this is wrong. That if we all decided not to do better than the next person... where would we be?
Oh and remember there is only one leader in the below. Right?
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Yeah, it's just a witch hunt.fk dude, we have wasted millions on a made up witch hunt with Robert Mueller. You are fine with that. funny shit dude.Things that are made up are always valid in nutterville. Think alternative facts.Newsflash...when you post something that "may be made up" it is by definition...NOT valid
They just have no concept of reality.
Your confused and distorted version of socialism.The whole thing is based on a straw man.A growing number of really uninformed students are declaring Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders, et.al. are correct regarding socialism and how we should rob the rich and deliver to the poor.
OK... two examples both of which may be fiction but still present the truth!
The earth's population is 7,000,000,000
Total wealth of the world after deducting all liabilities: $280,000,000,000,000
Richest 1% now owns half the world's wealth
So if progressives/socialists/Democrats had their way, we divide the wealth of the world and each of us would have $36,364... one time right.
They would see that as fair. Right.
But wait...A large proportion of the population in developing countries live on under $1 or $2 per day
Standard of Living in the Developing World | GiveWell
So these people given $36,364 to live on would last...50 years.
Average American spent in 2017 $100 per day in living.
Gallup Daily: U.S. Consumer Spending
$36,364/$100 per day means.. that would last 1 year.
Hmmm... wonder how many of the progressives/socialists/Democrats would be around?
Now this example really strikes home.
And I defy any Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders, et.al. supporter to prove this is wrong. That if we all decided not to do better than the next person... where would we be?
Oh and remember there is only one leader in the below. Right?
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So if progressives/socialists/Democrats had their way, we divide the wealth of the world and each of us would have $36,364... one time right.
They would see that as fair. Right.
So if progressives/socialists/Democrats had their way, we divide the wealth of the world and each of us would have $36,364... one time right.
They would see that as fair. Right.
I am not a Dem, but where is you link to unbiased, factual proof that EVERY, SINGLE DEMOCRAT feels this way (as you are stating)? Lumping millions of people into a belief you have is (without proof) is ridiculous.
I won't hold my breath waiting for that link...'cause it does not exist.
Ta ta.
BTW - I am against socialism and wealth redistribution. I am also against free university for all (even though I went for free). Medicare for all (unless people can opt out). A $15 minimum wage (though I could live with it). Basic Income For All. And I am 100% against federal government deficits for ANY reason but during a major, declared war.
being irrational is a human right. you wish to eliminate those who don't think as you. that makes you a fk. You want all people to believe as you do, have at it. just don't bring it to my country. keep it in Belgium. People should actually work to agree on tough subjects and respect the other's view. not you progressives. nope.Insufficient financial means is just as capable of stopping someone from getting care. I have friends and family who've had this experience. For some people it is a choice between eating and getting care, denying it does NOT change the truth of that.doctors are available to all. you are in error.Oh and btw.46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The NumberAnd their "one" basic service is "Medicare for all"
How many times do I have to point out to idiots like you and them THERE NEVER were 46 million uninsured Americans as Obama stated and idiots like you believe!
YET we hear/read this screaming for "Medicare for All"! We are talking about less than 5 million people that WANT and need health insurance! NOT 46 million!
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https://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf
The fact that some people in the US, the richest country in the world does NOT balk at having citizens incapable of having access to high quality healthcare is something that to me is baffling.
you mean you want free doctors.
Oh, bullshit. My 23-year-old son had to go to urgent care for an ear infection, and didn't have the insurance card to take with him. They went ahead and treated him, sent me a bill to submit to the insurance, AND signed him up for Medicaid as a backup, just in case.
"Choice between eating and getting care", my ass.Ah, getting sick is a something people do to themselves? Getting hit by a car is a choice? As for me hating Americans, I married one and my daughter has dual nationality. What I hate is the mechanisms that makes people believe without question. It makes them claim stuff like "being healthy is a personal choice". Even if they are intelligent, their personal beliefs makes them irrational. Irrational people are dangerous.no it isn't, poor life style does that. what one eats, what one does, what one doesn't do. it's so many things. you just hate americans doctors and the people.My point was that financial means is something that excludes people from getting proper care. Something you denied, and something I have personal experience to the contrary in. It's also something that as far as I now only happens in ONE first world country.... yours.in the US?REALLY? My brother in law got hit by a car without insurance. This meant that the ER did nothing more then stabilizing his shattered shoulder before they send him on his way. He couldn't afford the reconstructive surgery required and as a result has now less then 50 percent mobility in that arm. The mother of a friend of my wife likely died because she couldn't afford going to the doctor and have the test that would have diagnosed her cancer. That's 2 examples in my wide circle.that's pure bullshit. not in this country. anyone can get access to a doctor. almost anytime.
BTW, how is that the doctor's concern. Your brother should look into his own next steps.
The lady only had to go to a doctor. That's sad. There are so many places she could have gone. Likely she was going to die due to cancer.
how long does one have to wait to have procedures done?The AVERAGE healthcare cost in Belgium is about half yours. This means out of pocket PLUS taxes. As a percentage of GDP the difference is less pronounced but still 50 percent.Not at all. If my taxes pay for it I DO pay. I live in Belgium, a country that has a tax rate that would make you blanch. On the other hand I have affordable ( not free) healthcare for half of the price. Why is it that all you Republicans constantly claim that only paying out of pocket constitutes paying?doctors are available to all. you are in error.Oh and btw.46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The Number
https://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf
The fact that some people in the US, the richest country in the world does NOT balk at having citizens incapable of having access to high quality healthcare is something that to me is baffling.
you mean you want free doctors.
Leftists consider having to pay for stuff themselves to be "not having access".
I dunno about Belgium, but if you're submitting to that level of taxes, you're nuts. If you think your healthcare is "affordable" despite paying that level of taxes, you're beyond nuts.
You misunderstand what we're saying. The issue here isn't whether we're paying out of pocket or through taxes; the issue is that OTHER people aren't paying through taxes OR out of their own pockets. When leftists blather about wanting to raise taxes so that "everyone has access to high quality healthcare", what they're saying is that they want ME to pay for THEIR healthcare.
Hence my statement that leftists don't think they have "access to healthcare" if they're in any way having to pay for it themselves, rather than having someone else pony up.
How does health spending in the U.S. compare to other countries? - Peterson-Kaiser Health System Tracker
50 percent cheaper is affordable isn't it?
why didn't he?My brother in law also got immediate care. What he didn't get was ALL the care required to reverse the damage.Insufficient financial means is just as capable of stopping someone from getting care. I have friends and family who've had this experience. For some people it is a choice between eating and getting care, denying it does NOT change the truth of that.doctors are available to all. you are in error.Oh and btw.46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The NumberAnd their "one" basic service is "Medicare for all"
How many times do I have to point out to idiots like you and them THERE NEVER were 46 million uninsured Americans as Obama stated and idiots like you believe!
YET we hear/read this screaming for "Medicare for All"! We are talking about less than 5 million people that WANT and need health insurance! NOT 46 million!
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The fact that some people in the US, the richest country in the world does NOT balk at having citizens incapable of having access to high quality healthcare is something that to me is baffling.
you mean you want free doctors.
Oh, bullshit. My 23-year-old son had to go to urgent care for an ear infection, and didn't have the insurance card to take with him. They went ahead and treated him, sent me a bill to submit to the insurance, AND signed him up for Medicaid as a backup, just in case.
"Choice between eating and getting care", my ass.
