I Still Don't Know What It Is That Trump Opponents (Haters) Are Upset About

[Redfish]

Because there weren't any.
Of course people are scared, the 4 years the incompetent retard was in office, showed that Trump wasn't Qualified to be a dog catcher.

lowest unemployment rates in history, no new wars, rising stock market, low inflation, secure dollar, secure borders, yep, those were terrible years. and you are FOS

 

[Smokin' OP]

He was the best President we had since Reagan by every metric. Remember you put in a dementia patient that is ruining this country by every metric. The border is a mess, the economy is a mess, foreign relations is a mess, violent crime is a mess, inflation is a mess, fuel prices are a mess. We had this all under control under a real President like Trump.

YOU are nothing short of delusional.
BOTH were/are two of the most corrupt, treasonous presidents the US has EVER had in the white house.

 

[Smokin' OP]

lowest unemployment rates in history,

FOR.................two months............out of 48.
BIden has had rates lower, for longer.

no new wars, rising stock market, low inflation, secure dollar, secure borders, yep, those were terrible years. and you are FOS

You're delusional.
Trump, like Reagan was an epic failure.

 

[Winco]

For one a President is allowed to declassify and take documents with him

Where did you get this information?
NARA holds and preserves the documents

Show us where in the Constitution or anywhere else where it says that a POTUS can take home classified documents?

Trump is just making that up and you now believe him.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Where did you get this information?
NARA holds and preserves the documents

Show us where in the Constitution or anywhere else where it says that a POTUS can take home classified documents?

Trump is just making that up and you now believe him.

The cult always does.

Trump: I could declassify documents by thinking about it​

Politico
https://www.politico.com › news › 2022/09/21 › trum...

Sep 21, 2022 — The former president insisted in an interview with Sean Hannity that the documents at issue in the Mar-a-Lago probe were all declassified.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Where did you get this information?
NARA holds and preserves the documents

Show us where in the Constitution or anywhere else where it says that a POTUS can take home classified documents?

Trump is just making that up and you now believe him.

If he declassified them then the documents are no longer classified. The President can set his own policy for classification or declassification. In the case of Trump, his declassification process was any classified documents leaving the white house were automatically declassified. That's where the debate is at. That and who can actually take possession of such documents.

The Supreme Court determined in its 1988 decision on Department of the Navy v. Egan that the president’s power over classified information comes from executive authority granted by Article II, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution, which says, in part, that the “President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States.”

Yes, the president can declassify documents, but there isn’t a set protocol they have to follow

Former President Trump claimed documents found at Mar-a-Lago were “all declassified.” We explain why sitting presidents can declassify documents and how it works.

www.verifythis.com

 

[Foxfyre]

He's guilty of being a racist, misogynistic, corrupt, sleazy piece of garbage.

We can't charge him for that, unfortunately, but we'll get him on the porn star.

kind of like getting Al Capone on income tax evasion. YOu know he's done much worse stuff, but you get the case you get.

You cannot point to a single instance of racism or misogyny or any credible source identifying any corruption on his part. The words are assigned by the left for you to use and you dutifully parrot them but with no evidence to back them up.

You don't know of any worse stuff he's done but again that's the assigned talking point.

Has he ever done anything wrong? Almost certainly he has. So have you. So have I. We all sin and fall short.

But I'm sorry. I cannot condone or respect pure TDS that accuses him based on malicious rumors and assigned talking points. Have a great day Joe.

 

[Winco]

If he declassified them then the documents are no longer classified. The President can set his own policy for classification or declassification. In the case of Trump, his declassification process was any classified documents leaving the white house were automatically declassified. That's where the debate is at. That and who can actually take possession of such documents.

The Supreme Court determined in its 1988 decision on Department of the Navy v. Egan that the president’s power over classified information comes from executive authority granted by Article II, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution, which says, in part, that the “President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States.”

Yes, the president can declassify documents, but there isn’t a set protocol they have to follow

Former President Trump claimed documents found at Mar-a-Lago were “all declassified.” We explain why sitting presidents can declassify documents and how it works.

www.verifythis.com

I don’t care if Trump magically declassified the documents or not.

My concern is Possession.
Classified or not, point me to the part that says the POTUS can just take documents home. And yes, Biden and Pence are guilty too. Plus many others that are most likely guilty too.

I’m just not sure WHY you put this magical shield over trump?

 

[Winco]

You cannot point to a single instance of racism or misogyny or any credible source identifying any corruption on his part. The words are assigned by the left for you to use and you dutifully parrot them but with no evidence to back them up.

You don't know of any worse stuff he's done but again that's the assigned talking point.

Has he ever done anything wrong? Almost certainly he has. So have you. So have I. We all sin and fall short.

But I'm sorry. I cannot condone or respect pure TDS that accuses him based on malicious rumors and assigned talking points. Have a great day Joe.

No one has assigned me any talking points.

 

[Winco]

You cannot point to a single instance of racism or misogyny or any credible source identifying any corruption on his part.

We can, we have.

You just deny anything trump related because you will say, what has he been convicted of, and the answer is, he has never been tried.

Now is the time.
Buckle up Sweetie.

 

[Winco]

For one a President is allowed to declassify and take documents with him

You having trouble backing this^^^^ up Ray.
I'm not arguing ability to declassify, it's about stealing them from NARA.

So please, show me your documentation where it says a POTUS or anyone else can take the documents that rightfully belong to NARA.

Don't dodge this Ray.

Show us where in the Constitution or anywhere else where it says that a POTUS can take home classified documents?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I don’t care if Trump magically declassified the documents or not.

My concern is Possession.
Classified or not, point me to the part that says the POTUS can just take documents home. And yes, Biden and Pence are guilty too. Plus many others that are most likely guilty too.

I’m just not sure WHY you put this magical shield over trump?

That's the debate, whether or not he's allowed to keep them. But it's not a jailable offense. It would have to be decided by a court.

Biden on the other hand is different because he stole documents. A US Senator does not have constitutional authority to declassify anything therefore he took classified documents illegally and stored them in unsecure locations all over the place. So if Trump is in trouble for taking his documents home, Dementia is in ten times more trouble.

 

[Winco]

Biden on the other hand is different because he stole documents.

Im not arguing about biden or pence. They were WRONG.
So can we stay on topic.
When biden leaves office, feel free to charge him for 'stealing documents.' I don't CARE.

That's the debate, whether or not he's allowed to keep them. But it's not a jailable offense. It would have to be decided by a court.

That is most likely what Jack Smith is looking into.
Problem is, trump and his lawyers LIED about the documents.
They signed off saying they gave back ALL the documents, and that is simply NOT true.
Can you agree with that?

You also can't say trump has the right to take the documents, then claim that his staff moved them w/out any knowledge from trump. trump knew, he admitted it to Hannity.

So, are you willing to let the courts decide, or will you just scream witch hunt?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Im not arguing about biden or pence. They were WRONG.
So can we stay on topic.
When biden leaves office, feel free to charge him for 'stealing documents.' I don't CARE.


That is most likely what Jack Smith is looking into.
Problem is, trump and his lawyers LIED about the documents.
They signed off saying they gave back ALL the documents, and that is simply NOT true.
Can you agree with that?

You also can't say trump has the right to take the documents, then claim that his staff moved them w/out any knowledge from trump. trump knew, he admitted it to Hannity.

So, are you willing to let the courts decide, or will you just scream witch hunt?

I'm fine with letting the courts decide. Trump never claimed he returned all documents. In fact when the FBI went to MAL, they requested he install an additional lock on the door where he kept the documents they didn't take.

 

[Winco]

I'm fine with letting the courts decide. Trump never claimed he returned all documents. In fact when the FBI went to MAL, they requested he install an additional lock on the door where he kept the documents they didn't take.

And there is more to the story.
After the event you described ^^^^^^
His lawyers, led by tump or not, signed off on the statement, that all documents had been returned.
When they discovered that this ^^^^^ was a lie, then they searched his home and took back the documents that trump failed to surrender.
team trump LIED.
Blame it on his lawyers, I don't care, but when Jack Smith exposes the truth, I will accept what Smith presents.

 

[protectionist]

Because there weren't any.
Of course people are scared, the 4 years the incompetent retard was in office, showed that Trump wasn't Qualified to be a dog catcher.

Information-deprived victim of liberal OMISSION media.

See Post 149 and 161.

 

[protectionist]

Legal "Experts" like you, Hannity, Carlson and of course, Trump?

Not necessary to be a legal expert to agree with wht Ray said. Ordinary intelligence is sufficient.

 

[protectionist]

BRING IT.

It will be.

 

[protectionist]

Hell, even the phony Russian investigation took over a year and wasn't nearly as complicated with all this money laundering that went on in the Biden crime family like in order to legally get the Big Guy is 10%, Hunter rented his house for tens of thousands a month when it's not worth anything near that, and selling his finger paintings to anonymous Chinese buyers for up to $400,000 a piece which any art collector would tell you it's not worth ten bucks.

So give it time. Don't be so impatient.

Hunter's paintings look like the ones I did when I was 5 years old.

 

[protectionist]

No proof?
Get Hannity and Carlson to testify.

Not a bad idea.