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Celibacy happened around 1120 C.E., around the time of Abelard and Heloise. Heloise wrote extensively about their love affair, her uncle's ordered dismemberment of Abelard's private parts, and her love for him still. Do not take this as an endorsement of post-Reformation protestants. Remember that these religions, all of them, still make it a point of disrespecting female people.No, they need to not let in pedophiles in the first place. Catching them after the fact doesn't cure the problem. Hetero married couples would stem that flow.You're never going to get them all. New ones come in all the time. If they let priest marry, you'd have normal people as clergy.
The issue is accountability. The powers that be need to make them accountable so that when they are discovered they are dealt with appropriately.
Celibacy wasn't a requirement early in the Church's history; the Protestant Catholics allow married priests, I believe, the Anglican/Episcopalians. The Apostle Peter was married, so it's kind of bizarre the Roman C's don't allow it.
Clerical celibacy - Wikipedia
First century
Some of the earliest Christian leaders were married men. The mention in Mark 1:30, Luke 4:38, and Matthew 8:14-15 of Saint Peter's mother-in-law indicates that he had married (Matthew 8:14-15: "when Jesus was come into Peter's house, he saw his wife's mother laid, and sick of a fever.") According to Clement of Alexandria (Stromata, III, vi, ed. Dindorf, II, 276), Peter was married and had children and his wife suffered martyrdom. Pope Clement I wrote: "For Peter and Philip begat children".[10]
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On the other hand, George T. Dennis SJ of Catholic University of America says: "There is simply no clear evidence of a general tradition or practice, much less of an obligation, of priestly celibacy-continence before the beginning of the fourth century."[22] Peter Fink SJ agrees, saying that underlying premises used in the book, Apostolic Origins of Priestly Celibacy, "would not stand up so comfortably to historical scrutiny".[23] Dennis says this book provides no evidence that celibacy had apostolic origins.[22]
Similarly, Philippe Delhaye wrote: "During the first three or four centuries, no law was promulgated prohibiting clerical marriage. Celibacy was a matter of choice for bishops, priests, and deacons. ... The apostolic constitutions (c. 400) excommunicated a priest or bishop who left his wife 'under pretense of piety' (Sacrorum Conciliorum nova et amplissima collectio 1:51)."[24]
Reform may be on the way, however ...
Married Catholic priests? There are perhaps 120 in the U.S. already. Here's how
Pope Francis made headlines across the globe when he suggested he was open to the idea of ordaining married men as a way to alleviate priest shortages in remote areas.
Some raised their eyebrows and took note, whereas other Catholics shrugged, pointing out that paths, although they are narrow, already exist for married men to enter priesthood in the Roman Catholic Church.
Experts say as many as 120 Catholic priests in the U.S. are married.
That's largely because of a policy change made by Pope John Paul II in 1980, which offered a path for married Episcopal priests to continue their ministry after converting to Catholicism.
Under the pastoral provision, Father Paul Sullins, a former Episcopal priest, was ordained in the Catholic Church in 2002 after converting four years earlier.
More silly rubbish. People who can't read links usually post that sort of stuff.
And, Christianity elevated the role of women in society, despite all the idiotic noise to the contrary. It was your beloved 'free thinking pagans' who thought little of women. Still do. One of the reasons Christianity was considered so radical was this elevation of women as having souls. See Joachim Jeremia's Jerusalem in the Time of Jesus for that Fun Fact.
Explain why female people have never been accepted as full members of the Christian faithful. Why no female priests, ministers, bishops, cardinals, or popes, all seemingly due to the lack of a penis. I remember that a college history professor said that there was a vote at some all-male convention as to whether female people had souls. Otherwise, he said, we would be walking you down the street on leashes. Explain this conduct, please.
Remember Tertullian writing that a female person is "a temple built upon a sewer"?The open misogyny of Timothy? Please explain.