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I agree with that...and I think the other thing that Putin saw was the 'RESET'...when Obama failed to deploy missles in Eastern Europe. And whom could forget...
Obama open mic slip: 'After my election I have more flexibility' - YouTube
I'm waiting for someone to explain how a missile defense system, designed in fact to protect Europe from Iran,
a missile defense system that btw doesn't work, a missile defense system that the Russians could easily counter with missiles of their own if need be,
how would that have prevented Russia from doing what it's doing now in Ukraine?
The missile defense system itself was immaterial, the threat to Russia is the sphere of influence and the military involvement of the West right on their borders. Just stop and think what our reaction would be if the Russians proposed to deploy missile defense batteries in Mexico ostensibly to protect the Mexicans from a missile attack from Brazil, do you think for a second we wouldn't do everything possible to stop it? Remember the Cuban Missile crisis?
The defense system doesn't actually have to work or even be actually deployed, it just has to be on the table to be useful as a bargaining chip, the Administration effectively tossed that bargaining chip right out the window and much of the Eastern Europeans goodwill and confidence in us along with it.
I'm waiting for someone to explain how a missile defense system, designed in fact to protect Europe from Iran,
a missile defense system that btw doesn't work, a missile defense system that the Russians could easily counter with missiles of their own if need be,
how would that have prevented Russia from doing what it's doing now in Ukraine?
The missile defense system itself was immaterial, the threat to Russia is the sphere of influence and the military involvement of the West right on their borders. Just stop and think what our reaction would be if the Russians proposed to deploy missile defense batteries in Mexico ostensibly to protect the Mexicans from a missile attack from Brazil, do you think for a second we wouldn't do everything possible to stop it? Remember the Cuban Missile crisis?
The defense system doesn't actually have to work or even be actually deployed, it just has to be on the table to be useful as a bargaining chip, the Administration effectively tossed that bargaining chip right out the window and much of the Eastern Europeans goodwill and confidence in us along with it.
No. Missile defense is just a brilliant scheme by the defense lobby and all their stooges in various places of power in and around the government to get us into a new arms race.
The offensive missile arms race has petered out,
what better, for the defense money interests, than to get us into another arms race based on defending ourselves from the missiles the last arms race created?
The missile defense system itself was immaterial, the threat to Russia is the sphere of influence and the military involvement of the West right on their borders. Just stop and think what our reaction would be if the Russians proposed to deploy missile defense batteries in Mexico ostensibly to protect the Mexicans from a missile attack from Brazil, do you think for a second we wouldn't do everything possible to stop it? Remember the Cuban Missile crisis?
The defense system doesn't actually have to work or even be actually deployed, it just has to be on the table to be useful as a bargaining chip, the Administration effectively tossed that bargaining chip right out the window and much of the Eastern Europeans goodwill and confidence in us along with it.
No. Missile defense is just a brilliant scheme by the defense lobby and all their stooges in various places of power in and around the government to get us into a new arms race.
The offensive missile arms race has petered out,
what better, for the defense money interests, than to get us into another arms race based on defending ourselves from the missiles the last arms race created?
You're missing the point, the missile defense system itself is IMMATERIAL it's the sphere of influence and military involvement of the West on their borders that matters, the Russians aren't thinking about what's going on today they're looking down the road and examining the possibilities in the future, it's CHESS not CHECKERS. Dropping missile defense not only nixed the immediate worry for the Russians it also created a wedge between Eastern Europe and the U.S. (when we reneged) that the Russians can leverage to their geopolitical advantage.
With Russia.
Romney was right. But at least Obama still has his little reset button...
Romney wasn't right about anything. Let Romney come out from hiding and tell us why things would have gone differently in the Ukraine if he were president.
Forget Romney, he's not an elected official anymore, what I really want to hear is what the bloodthirsty warhawks like McCain actually propose to do about it. So far him and the chest thumping warmongers in Washington like him have just been running about pontificating about how President Clueless is so "weak" without actually specifying what they'd do differently.
I vaguely remember Romney. He wore magic underwear and thought that Jesus walked to America.
Thankfully, Romney is unimportant.
With Russia.
Romney was right. But at least Obama still has his little reset button...
I'm waiting for someone to explain how a missile defense system, designed in fact to protect Europe from Iran,
a missile defense system that btw doesn't work, a missile defense system that the Russians could easily counter with missiles of their own if need be,
how would that have prevented Russia from doing what it's doing now in Ukraine?
The missile defense system itself was immaterial, the threat to Russia is the sphere of influence and the military involvement of the West right on their borders. Just stop and think what our reaction would be if the Russians proposed to deploy missile defense batteries in Mexico ostensibly to protect the Mexicans from a missile attack from Brazil, do you think for a second we wouldn't do everything possible to stop it? Remember the Cuban Missile crisis?
The defense system doesn't actually have to work or even be actually deployed, it just has to be on the table to be useful as a bargaining chip, the Administration effectively tossed that bargaining chip right out the window and much of the Eastern Europeans goodwill and confidence in us along with it.
No. Missile defense is just a brilliant scheme by the defense lobby and all their stooges in various places of power in and around the government to get us into a new arms race.
The offensive missile arms race has petered out,
what better, for the defense money interests, than to get us into another arms race based on defending ourselves from the missiles the last arms race created?
No. Missile defense is just a brilliant scheme by the defense lobby and all their stooges in various places of power in and around the government to get us into a new arms race.
The offensive missile arms race has petered out,
what better, for the defense money interests, than to get us into another arms race based on defending ourselves from the missiles the last arms race created?
You're missing the point, the missile defense system itself is IMMATERIAL it's the sphere of influence and military involvement of the West on their borders that matters, the Russians aren't thinking about what's going on today they're looking down the road and examining the possibilities in the future, it's CHESS not CHECKERS. Dropping missile defense not only nixed the immediate worry for the Russians it also created a wedge between Eastern Europe and the U.S. (when we reneged) that the Russians can leverage to their geopolitical advantage.
Nonsense. The missile defense system was still on the table when Russia got into the Georgia/Ossetia matter. It didn't deter them.
Romney wasn't right about anything. Let Romney come out from hiding and tell us why things would have gone differently in the Ukraine if he were president.
Forget Romney, he's not an elected official anymore, what I really want to hear is what the bloodthirsty warhawks like McCain actually propose to do about it. So far him and the chest thumping warmongers in Washington like him have just been running about pontificating about how President Clueless is so "weak" without actually specifying what they'd do differently.
I heard quite a few specifics over the last week or so. It seems Obama is coming around to some of the solutions but it would have been much better ro have prevented this to begin with rather than scrambling to try to stop it. IF the situation becomes more volatile it will be time for the partisanship to cease and a unified front put forth. That alone could be a real challenge depending on the position Obama ends up in.
Forget Romney, he's not an elected official anymore, what I really want to hear is what the bloodthirsty warhawks like McCain actually propose to do about it. So far him and the chest thumping warmongers in Washington like him have just been running about pontificating about how President Clueless is so "weak" without actually specifying what they'd do differently.
I heard quite a few specifics over the last week or so. It seems Obama is coming around to some of the solutions but it would have been much better ro have prevented this to begin with rather than scrambling to try to stop it. IF the situation becomes more volatile it will be time for the partisanship to cease and a unified front put forth. That alone could be a real challenge depending on the position Obama ends up in.
Bwahaha! A new rightwing propaganda line is born!
So if this situation in Ukraine is resolved satisfactorily, the Obama haters are going to claim it was because Obama adopted conservative/Republican ideas?
Perfect!
And Putin would have so much respect for Mormney, right?
With Russia.
Romney was right. But at least Obama still has his little reset button...
Forget Romney, he's not an elected official anymore, what I really want to hear is what the bloodthirsty warhawks like McCain actually propose to do about it. So far him and the chest thumping warmongers in Washington like him have just been running about pontificating about how President Clueless is so "weak" without actually specifying what they'd do differently.
I heard quite a few specifics over the last week or so. It seems Obama is coming around to some of the solutions but it would have been much better ro have prevented this to begin with rather than scrambling to try to stop it. IF the situation becomes more volatile it will be time for the partisanship to cease and a unified front put forth. That alone could be a real challenge depending on the position Obama ends up in.
Bwahaha! A new rightwing propaganda line is born!
So if this situation in Ukraine is resolved satisfactorily, the Obama haters are going to claim it was because Obama adopted conservative/Republican ideas?
Perfect!
No. Missile defense is just a brilliant scheme by the defense lobby and all their stooges in various places of power in and around the government to get us into a new arms race.
The offensive missile arms race has petered out,
what better, for the defense money interests, than to get us into another arms race based on defending ourselves from the missiles the last arms race created?
You're missing the point, the missile defense system itself is IMMATERIAL it's the sphere of influence and military involvement of the West on their borders that matters, the Russians aren't thinking about what's going on today they're looking down the road and examining the possibilities in the future, it's CHESS not CHECKERS. Dropping missile defense not only nixed the immediate worry for the Russians it also created a wedge between Eastern Europe and the U.S. (when we reneged) that the Russians can leverage to their geopolitical advantage.
Nonsense. The missile defense system was still on the table when Russia got into the Georgia/Ossetia matter. It didn't deter them.
Forget Romney, he's not an elected official anymore, what I really want to hear is what the bloodthirsty warhawks like McCain actually propose to do about it. So far him and the chest thumping warmongers in Washington like him have just been running about pontificating about how President Clueless is so "weak" without actually specifying what they'd do differently.
I heard quite a few specifics over the last week or so. It seems Obama is coming around to some of the solutions but it would have been much better ro have prevented this to begin with rather than scrambling to try to stop it. IF the situation becomes more volatile it will be time for the partisanship to cease and a unified front put forth. That alone could be a real challenge depending on the position Obama ends up in.
Bwahaha! A new rightwing propaganda line is born!
So if this situation in Ukraine is resolved satisfactorily, the Obama haters are going to claim it was because Obama adopted conservative/Republican ideas?
Perfect!
