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I was reminded of this poll.....and its "scary"

What do the actions of either Clinton or Bush have to do with the current erroneous belief by more than half of republicans and fox news viewers that we found wmd programs in iraq?

So what did saddam gas the Kurds with?
Lysol?
When did that happen? After our invasion? No? Then it has nothing to do with anything

LOL...So you're okay with assuming he used it all on the Kurds?
Did we find active wmd programs?

Didn't you comprehend my first post?

Or my second?
 
What do the actions of either Clinton or Bush have to do with the current erroneous belief by more than half of republicans and fox news viewers that we found wmd programs in iraq?

So what did saddam gas the Kurds with?
Lysol?
When did that happen? After our invasion? No? Then it has nothing to do with anything

LOL...So you're okay with assuming he used it all on the Kurds?
Did we find active wmd programs?

Did you read the whole thread?
 
What do the actions of either Clinton or Bush have to do with the current erroneous belief by more than half of republicans and fox news viewers that we found wmd programs in iraq?

So what did saddam gas the Kurds with?
Lysol?

Ya know I always thought we gave those chemical weapons to Sadam , I never knew Sadam was making his own during his war with Iran.

From PBS... Saddam Hussein's Weapons Of Mass Destruction | Gunning For Saddam | FRONTLINE | PBS

The IAEA inspections revealed seven nuclear-related sites in Iraq. [2] The IAEA reports that all sensitive nuclear materials were removed, and that facilities and equipment were dismantled or destroyed. Activities uncovered and destroyed included:

  • an industrial scale complex for Electromagnetic Isotope Separation (EMIS), a process for producing enriched uranium. The complex was designed for the installation of 90 separators; before the Gulf War, eight were functional. If all separators had been installed, the plant could have produced 15 kg of highly enriched uranium per year, possibly enough for one nuclear weapon.

  • a large scale manufacturing and testing facility--the Al Furat Project--designed for the production of centrifuges, used in another method of uranium enrichment.

  • facilities and equipment for the production of weapons components.

  • computer simulations of nuclear weapons detonations

  • storage of large quantities of HMX high explosive used in nuclear weapons.
According to former U.N. inspector David Kay, Iraq spent over $10 billion during the 1980s in an attempt to enrich uranium and build a nuclear weapon. However, the Agency concludes that as of December, 1998, "There were no indications to suggest that Iraq was successful in its attempt to produce nuclear weapons," or "that there remains in Iraq any physical capability for the production of amounts of weapons-usable nuclear material of any practical significance." However, the IAEA did find that "Iraq was at, or close to, the threshold of success in such areas as the production of [highly enriched uranium] ... and the fabrication of the explosive package for a nuclear weapon." Despite the fact that the facilities and nuclear material had been destroyed or removed, as early as 1996 the IAEA concluded that "the know-how and expertise acquired by Iraqi scientists and engineers could provide an adequate base for reconstituting a nuclear-weapons-oriented program."
And yet there were no active programs when we invaded.
So are you part of the 51%?

So are you back tracking now and don't want to admit 17 servicemen got hurt messing with 5,000 WMDs in IRAQ?

Again the FACTS...

5,000 WMDs were recovered in IRAQ= FACT

Sadam was not making anymore WMDs as Bush claimed = FACT
 
What do the actions of either Clinton or Bush have to do with the current erroneous belief by more than half of republicans and fox news viewers that we found wmd programs in iraq?

So what did saddam gas the Kurds with?
Lysol?

Ya know I always thought we gave those chemical weapons to Sadam , I never knew Sadam was making his own during his war with Iran.

From PBS... Saddam Hussein's Weapons Of Mass Destruction | Gunning For Saddam | FRONTLINE | PBS

The IAEA inspections revealed seven nuclear-related sites in Iraq. [2] The IAEA reports that all sensitive nuclear materials were removed, and that facilities and equipment were dismantled or destroyed. Activities uncovered and destroyed included:

  • an industrial scale complex for Electromagnetic Isotope Separation (EMIS), a process for producing enriched uranium. The complex was designed for the installation of 90 separators; before the Gulf War, eight were functional. If all separators had been installed, the plant could have produced 15 kg of highly enriched uranium per year, possibly enough for one nuclear weapon.

  • a large scale manufacturing and testing facility--the Al Furat Project--designed for the production of centrifuges, used in another method of uranium enrichment.

  • facilities and equipment for the production of weapons components.

  • computer simulations of nuclear weapons detonations

  • storage of large quantities of HMX high explosive used in nuclear weapons.
According to former U.N. inspector David Kay, Iraq spent over $10 billion during the 1980s in an attempt to enrich uranium and build a nuclear weapon. However, the Agency concludes that as of December, 1998, "There were no indications to suggest that Iraq was successful in its attempt to produce nuclear weapons," or "that there remains in Iraq any physical capability for the production of amounts of weapons-usable nuclear material of any practical significance." However, the IAEA did find that "Iraq was at, or close to, the threshold of success in such areas as the production of [highly enriched uranium] ... and the fabrication of the explosive package for a nuclear weapon." Despite the fact that the facilities and nuclear material had been destroyed or removed, as early as 1996 the IAEA concluded that "the know-how and expertise acquired by Iraqi scientists and engineers could provide an adequate base for reconstituting a nuclear-weapons-oriented program."
And yet there were no active programs when we invaded.
So are you part of the 51%?

So are you back tracking now and don't want to admit 17 servicemen got hurt messing with 5,000 WMDs in IRAQ?

Again the FACTS...

5,000 WMDs were recovered in IRAQ= FACT

Sadam was not making anymore WMDs as Bush claimed = FACT
Were they wmds? At one time, but when they were recovered?
Doesn't matter. There were no active wmd programs
 
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So what did saddam gas the Kurds with?
Lysol?

Ya know I always thought we gave those chemical weapons to Sadam , I never knew Sadam was making his own during his war with Iran.

From PBS... Saddam Hussein's Weapons Of Mass Destruction | Gunning For Saddam | FRONTLINE | PBS

The IAEA inspections revealed seven nuclear-related sites in Iraq. [2] The IAEA reports that all sensitive nuclear materials were removed, and that facilities and equipment were dismantled or destroyed. Activities uncovered and destroyed included:

  • an industrial scale complex for Electromagnetic Isotope Separation (EMIS), a process for producing enriched uranium. The complex was designed for the installation of 90 separators; before the Gulf War, eight were functional. If all separators had been installed, the plant could have produced 15 kg of highly enriched uranium per year, possibly enough for one nuclear weapon.

  • a large scale manufacturing and testing facility--the Al Furat Project--designed for the production of centrifuges, used in another method of uranium enrichment.

  • facilities and equipment for the production of weapons components.

  • computer simulations of nuclear weapons detonations

  • storage of large quantities of HMX high explosive used in nuclear weapons.
According to former U.N. inspector David Kay, Iraq spent over $10 billion during the 1980s in an attempt to enrich uranium and build a nuclear weapon. However, the Agency concludes that as of December, 1998, "There were no indications to suggest that Iraq was successful in its attempt to produce nuclear weapons," or "that there remains in Iraq any physical capability for the production of amounts of weapons-usable nuclear material of any practical significance." However, the IAEA did find that "Iraq was at, or close to, the threshold of success in such areas as the production of [highly enriched uranium] ... and the fabrication of the explosive package for a nuclear weapon." Despite the fact that the facilities and nuclear material had been destroyed or removed, as early as 1996 the IAEA concluded that "the know-how and expertise acquired by Iraqi scientists and engineers could provide an adequate base for reconstituting a nuclear-weapons-oriented program."
And yet there were no active programs when we invaded.
So are you part of the 51%?

So are you back tracking now and don't want to admit 17 servicemen got hurt messing with 5,000 WMDs in IRAQ?

Again the FACTS...

5,000 WMDs were recovered in IRAQ= FACT

Sadam was not making anymore WMDs as Bush claimed = FACT

Werr they wmds? At one time, but when they were recovered?
Doesn't matter. There were no active wmd programs

I give up you just want to save face and go round and round in a circle.
 
We are not talking about that and don't try to change the goal post.

WMDs were found in Iraq=Fact

Sadam was not making new ones as Bush Jr, Dick and Powell claims= Fact

Those are the FACTS , not my fault you are ignorant in News and Politics.


You really are a dunce....but you must have heard that plenty of times before.

So, are you stating that the war ON Iraq was justified based on an old-chemical stockpile that Iraq may have had? Yes or No?
 
I still think he either buried em in the desert or hauled them to Syria.

So, Saddam being attacked by a superpower AND knowing that his end was near, opted (as a true humanitarian?) to get rid of the chemical weapons?

I've used this example before....let's see if you agree:

Let's say that an intruder is breaking into your home with plans to kill you......You run to your bedroom and pick up your trusty assault rifle and........................promptly bury it or throw the rifle into your neighbor's yard......??
Makes sense???
 
It's hysterical to see the whole "Faux News"/"Fox Noise" blather.

3,000,000 people watch fox.

100,000,000 vote.
More people watch fox than cnn and msnbc combined.

If so, it's a good indication Fox Noise is simply better at fearmongering and pandering to the LCD. That's what draws ratings and sells ads.

And the content confirms that -- see collage posted earlier, post 9.
 
So what did saddam gas the Kurds with?
Lysol?

The bastard Saddam gassed the Kurds with the remnants of what WE SOLD HIM when he was fighting against Iran.......BUT, try to keep up with the statement made by Cheney....that Saddam could have a mushroom cloud over the U.S......and we certainly know now it could NOT have been those remnants that would have caused that mythical "mushroom cloud."
 
It's hysterical to see the whole "Faux News"/"Fox Noise" blather.

3,000,000 people watch fox.

100,000,000 vote.
More people watch fox than cnn and msnbc combined.

If so, it's a good indication Fox Noise is simply better at fearmongering and pandering to the LCD. That's what draws ratings and sells ads.

And the content confirms that -- see collage posted earlier, post 9.

I
It's hysterical to see the whole "Faux News"/"Fox Noise" blather.

3,000,000 people watch fox.

100,000,000 vote.
More people watch fox than cnn and msnbc combined.
"According to Nielsen data through Dec. 8, Fox News Channel averaged 1.774 million viewers. It was followed by MSNBC with 645,000 CNN with 578,000."

Fox News Remains Ratings Champ As 2013 Comes to Close

"For the second time this year, Fox News outranked every other cable network in primetime total viewers, including TNT, USA, HGTV and TBS. By comparison, MSNBC came in at #22 and CNN came in at #30 in primetime total viewers. In addition, Fox was the only network that saw year-to-year gains in the primetime demo, up an impressive 64% compared to last August."

August 2015 Ratings: Fox News #1 in All Primetime Cable, MSNBC Last in Demo
 
"According to Nielsen data through Dec. 8, Fox News Channel averaged 1.774 million viewers. It was followed by MSNBC with 645,000 CNN with 578,000."

Fox News Remains Ratings Champ As 2013 Comes to Close

"For the second time this year, Fox News outranked every other cable network in primetime total viewers, including TNT, USA, HGTV and TBS. By comparison, MSNBC came in at #22 and CNN came in at #30 in primetime total viewers. In addition, Fox was the only network that saw year-to-year gains in the primetime demo, up an impressive 64% compared to last August."

August 2015 Ratings: Fox News #1 in All Primetime Cable, MSNBC Last in Demo

Here's the way your half brain should interpret that data by Nielsen.....

Sane people have SEVERAL choices for their news digestion (even beside CNN and MSNBC)...while FOX viewers are stuck on stupid and probably have little idea on how to work their remote control to change channels.
 
It's hysterical to see the whole "Faux News"/"Fox Noise" blather.

3,000,000 people watch fox.

100,000,000 vote.
More people watch fox than cnn and msnbc combined.

If so, it's a good indication Fox Noise is simply better at fearmongering and pandering to the LCD. That's what draws ratings and sells ads.

And the content confirms that -- see collage posted earlier, post 9.

I
It's hysterical to see the whole "Faux News"/"Fox Noise" blather.

3,000,000 people watch fox.

100,000,000 vote.
More people watch fox than cnn and msnbc combined.
"According to Nielsen data through Dec. 8, Fox News Channel averaged 1.774 million viewers. It was followed by MSNBC with 645,000 CNN with 578,000."

Fox News Remains Ratings Champ As 2013 Comes to Close

"For the second time this year, Fox News outranked every other cable network in primetime total viewers, including TNT, USA, HGTV and TBS. By comparison, MSNBC came in at #22 and CNN came in at #30 in primetime total viewers. In addition, Fox was the only network that saw year-to-year gains in the primetime demo, up an impressive 64% compared to last August."

August 2015 Ratings: Fox News #1 in All Primetime Cable, MSNBC Last in Demo

Further illustration. When ratings go up it means two things: (a) they can charge more for the next commercial buy; and (b) they successfully mined somebody's fears or salacious appetites. In the case of Fox Noise it's usually the fear factor based on "scary black people". They know their audience -- old, white and male.

That's the sum total of what it means.
 
Ya know I always thought we gave those chemical weapons to Sadam , I never knew Sadam was making his own during his war with Iran.

From PBS... Saddam Hussein's Weapons Of Mass Destruction | Gunning For Saddam | FRONTLINE | PBS

The IAEA inspections revealed seven nuclear-related sites in Iraq. [2] The IAEA reports that all sensitive nuclear materials were removed, and that facilities and equipment were dismantled or destroyed. Activities uncovered and destroyed included:

  • an industrial scale complex for Electromagnetic Isotope Separation (EMIS), a process for producing enriched uranium. The complex was designed for the installation of 90 separators; before the Gulf War, eight were functional. If all separators had been installed, the plant could have produced 15 kg of highly enriched uranium per year, possibly enough for one nuclear weapon.

  • a large scale manufacturing and testing facility--the Al Furat Project--designed for the production of centrifuges, used in another method of uranium enrichment.

  • facilities and equipment for the production of weapons components.

  • computer simulations of nuclear weapons detonations

  • storage of large quantities of HMX high explosive used in nuclear weapons.
According to former U.N. inspector David Kay, Iraq spent over $10 billion during the 1980s in an attempt to enrich uranium and build a nuclear weapon. However, the Agency concludes that as of December, 1998, "There were no indications to suggest that Iraq was successful in its attempt to produce nuclear weapons," or "that there remains in Iraq any physical capability for the production of amounts of weapons-usable nuclear material of any practical significance." However, the IAEA did find that "Iraq was at, or close to, the threshold of success in such areas as the production of [highly enriched uranium] ... and the fabrication of the explosive package for a nuclear weapon." Despite the fact that the facilities and nuclear material had been destroyed or removed, as early as 1996 the IAEA concluded that "the know-how and expertise acquired by Iraqi scientists and engineers could provide an adequate base for reconstituting a nuclear-weapons-oriented program."
And yet there were no active programs when we invaded.
So are you part of the 51%?

So are you back tracking now and don't want to admit 17 servicemen got hurt messing with 5,000 WMDs in IRAQ?

Again the FACTS...

5,000 WMDs were recovered in IRAQ= FACT

Sadam was not making anymore WMDs as Bush claimed = FACT

Werr they wmds? At one time, but when they were recovered?
Doesn't matter. There were no active wmd programs

I give up you just want to save face and go round and round in a circle.
I don't know what you think i'm going round in a circle about.
 
Further illustration. When ratings go up it means two things: (a) they can charge more for the next commercial buy; and (b) they successfully mined somebody's fears or salacious appetites. In the case of Fox Noise it's usually the fear factor based on "scary black people". They know their audience -- old, white and male.


....and please don't forget the cleavage on those blonds and the perfectly-timed salacious crouch shots when they cross their legs.
 
Further illustration. When ratings go up it means two things: (a) they can charge more for the next commercial buy; and (b) they successfully mined somebody's fears or salacious appetites. In the case of Fox Noise it's usually the fear factor based on "scary black people". They know their audience -- old, white and male.


....and please don't forget the cleavage on those blonds and the perfectly-timed salacious crouch shots when they cross their legs.

Good point. They cover all possible angles. Literally and figuratively.
 
Recently, a friend reminded me of a poll taken last January, where more than HALF of republicans actually "think" that the war ON Iraq actually yielded the finding of caches of Weapons of Mass Destruction.....

In a Public Mind poll from Fairleigh Dickinson University released [in mid-January, 2015], more than half of Republicans — 51 percent — and half of those who watch Fox News — 52 percent — say that they believe it to be “definitely true” or “probably true” that American forces found an active weapons of mass destruction program in Iraq.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/01/poll-republicans-wmds-iraq-114016#ixzz3omZWIa8l

What scares me, is that many of these respondents will actually show up to vote next November, 2016....and take their darn stupidity with them to actually cast a ballot.

What's more, Hitler was a Liberal who invented the KKK and worked with Roosevelt to cause the Great Depression. And JFK invented penile warts.

Introducing , for the first time, HERE on US Mess age bored.The JFKon_dumb !
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Recently, a friend reminded me of a poll taken last January, where more than HALF of republicans actually "think" that the war ON Iraq actually yielded the finding of caches of Weapons of Mass Destruction.....

In a Public Mind poll from Fairleigh Dickinson University released [in mid-January, 2015], more than half of Republicans — 51 percent — and half of those who watch Fox News — 52 percent — say that they believe it to be “definitely true” or “probably true” that American forces found an active weapons of mass destruction program in Iraq.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/01/poll-republicans-wmds-iraq-114016#ixzz3omZWIa8l

What scares me, is that many of these respondents will actually show up to vote next November, 2016....and take their darn stupidity with them to actually cast a ballot.

What's more, Hitler was a Liberal who invented the KKK and worked with Roosevelt to cause the Great Depression. And JFK invented penile warts.

Introducing , for the first time, HERE on US Mess age bored.The JFKon_dumb !
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Nice work. You have a facility for jeux de mots.
That flies over most heads here, so just so you know it got appreciamitated. :thup:
 
Recently, a friend reminded me of a poll taken last January, where more than HALF of republicans actually "think" that the war ON Iraq actually yielded the finding of caches of Weapons of Mass Destruction.....

In a Public Mind poll from Fairleigh Dickinson University released [in mid-January, 2015], more than half of Republicans — 51 percent — and half of those who watch Fox News — 52 percent — say that they believe it to be “definitely true” or “probably true” that American forces found an active weapons of mass destruction program in Iraq.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/01/poll-republicans-wmds-iraq-114016#ixzz3omZWIa8l

What scares me, is that many of these respondents will actually show up to vote next November, 2016....and take their darn stupidity with them to actually cast a ballot.

What's more, Hitler was a Liberal who invented the KKK and worked with Roosevelt to cause the Great Depression. And JFK invented penile warts.
Don't know about the KKK or Roosevelt but here is a quote from Mr. Hitler himself:
“We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions”
Adolf Hitler (speech of May 1, 1927)
Socialism is leftist is it not?
 
I still think he either buried em in the desert or hauled them to Syria.

So, Saddam being attacked by a superpower AND knowing that his end was near, opted (as a true humanitarian?) to get rid of the chemical weapons?

I've used this example before....let's see if you agree:

Let's say that an intruder is breaking into your home with plans to kill you......You run to your bedroom and pick up your trusty assault rifle and........................promptly bury it or throw the rifle into your neighbor's yard......??
Makes sense???

Lame.
He knew damn good and well what would happen if he used chem weapons on us.
 

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