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As I said before....wait for the day when some christian business owner "claims" they don't have to follow safety or health laws for religious reasons.Churches are not businesses nor do they have business licenses. In fact, they get special rights...even tax exemptions.It IS a compelling government interest that minorities in this country are not discriminated against. It is discrimination, pure and simple, no matter how much lipstick you want to put on that pig.
There is nothing trivial about discrimination. There is nothing trivial about a religious group requesting to break the law because they're so special.
No.
So why not force Churches to host Same Sex Weddings?
Discrimination has to have some harm to it to be a compelling government interest. and when it comes to Rights, "correcting" the harm has to be done as gently as possible.
The correct solution would be to make them State their policies up front, via a sign, or on their website.
Where does the 1st amendment say only Churches have the right to free exercise, and not individuals?
Free exercise isn't limited to the clergy or limited to when you are sitting in a house of worship.
So the entire adult population of the U.S. has an individual right to the free exercise of religion? This is a Pandora's Box that you don't want to open.
Do you know of any cases where a muslim baker refused to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple? How about a Hindu baker? A Jewish baker? Did you consider that it just might be christian bakers (and only a very few) who are trying to get special protection to discriminate in their business against gays?Says who?Christians are the ones being gunned for because they are the easiest target for identity politics driven progs.
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Every single person with an IQ over 70 who can watch pathetic Leftists do what they do.
None of these folks would dare go into Muslim enclave and ask for any of this just ask the peaceful Christians for cake and then take them to court over and over and over like the absolute bullies they are.
It's sad. Pathetic.
Gay activists won't do that, will they? Now seriously: you think Islamic bakers, caterers and etc. are really ready to serve the gay community?
But again, the gay activists aren't about to "expose" Islam. Mostly because they're total cowards. Also because "diversity"
Do you know of any cases where a muslim baker refused to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple? How about a Hindu baker? A Jewish baker? Did you consider that it just might be christian bakers (and only a very few) who are trying to get special protection to discriminate in their business against gays?Says who?Christians are the ones being gunned for because they are the easiest target for identity politics driven progs.
View attachment 265076
Every single person with an IQ over 70 who can watch pathetic Leftists do what they do.
None of these folks would dare go into Muslim enclave and ask for any of this just ask the peaceful Christians for cake and then take them to court over and over and over like the absolute bullies they are.
It's sad. Pathetic.
Gay activists won't do that, will they? Now seriously: you think Islamic bakers, caterers and etc. are really ready to serve the gay community?
But again, the gay activists aren't about to "expose" Islam. Mostly because they're total cowards. Also because "diversity"
Oh? Are gay people sterile ??If it's 100% a choice, when did you choose your sexual orientation? What age were you? What do you recall leading to that choice?I agree. It is 100% personal choice, not an inheritance. Most other folly also is not inherited but is the personal choice of the person engaging in it.As I've surmised for years. Nobody is born gay. John's Hopkins Research has vindicated me. No! Weak minded people let themselves be seduced by Satan and then become his disciples living out perverted dangerous homosexual lifestyles putting young kids lives in danger, especially when same sex married couples adopt them for their sexual pleasure. Homosexuality is not inate, it is learned. Science has spoken! Now President Trump should sign an executive order making it mandatory for gays to have conversion therapy so they can return to normal and find God.
Johns Hopkins Research: No Evidence People Are Born Gay Or Transgender
The species defaults to heterosexuality, because if it didn't there wouldn't be a species anymore.
You really believe that Adam and Eve stuff? Do you also believe the Earth is only 6000 years old?Special rights because....christian.Churches are not businesses nor do they have business licenses. In fact, they get special rights...even tax exemptions.
Where does the 1st amendment say only Churches have the right to free exercise, and not individuals?
Free exercise isn't limited to the clergy or limited to when you are sitting in a house of worship.
Remember this, Marty, and never forget.
It isn't the "Freedom to worship(inside a church building)", but freedom of religion.
And religion is what people live, and why we had the cases of religious groups like the Little Sisters of the Poor and Hobby Lobby, objecting to being forced to pay for abortions. Religion extends far beyond what happens in the pews.
Its not a "Special" rite at all, just a recognition that Christians believe Almighty God put Adam and Eve into the garden
You can't give any examples can you? Because it hasn't happened. Seems to be that it's fundie christians who want the special right to refuse service to law-abiding, tax-paying citizens because of a so-called religious belief that isn't even in their bible.Do you know of any cases where a muslim baker refused to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple? How about a Hindu baker? A Jewish baker? Did you consider that it just might be christian bakers (and only a very few) who are trying to get special protection to discriminate in their business against gays?
Every single person with an IQ over 70 who can watch pathetic Leftists do what they do.
None of these folks would dare go into Muslim enclave and ask for any of this just ask the peaceful Christians for cake and then take them to court over and over and over like the absolute bullies they are.
It's sad. Pathetic.
Gay activists won't do that, will they? Now seriously: you think Islamic bakers, caterers and etc. are really ready to serve the gay community?
But again, the gay activists aren't about to "expose" Islam. Mostly because they're total cowards. Also because "diversity"
As I said before....wait for the day when some christian business owner "claims" they don't have to follow safety or health laws for religious reasons.Churches are not businesses nor do they have business licenses. In fact, they get special rights...even tax exemptions.It IS a compelling government interest that minorities in this country are not discriminated against. It is discrimination, pure and simple, no matter how much lipstick you want to put on that pig.
There is nothing trivial about discrimination. There is nothing trivial about a religious group requesting to break the law because they're so special.
No.
So why not force Churches to host Same Sex Weddings?
Discrimination has to have some harm to it to be a compelling government interest. and when it comes to Rights, "correcting" the harm has to be done as gently as possible.
The correct solution would be to make them State their policies up front, via a sign, or on their website.
Where does the 1st amendment say only Churches have the right to free exercise, and not individuals?
Free exercise isn't limited to the clergy or limited to when you are sitting in a house of worship.
So the entire adult population of the U.S. has an individual right to the free exercise of religion? This is a Pandora's Box that you don't want to open.
Oh? Are gay people sterile ??If it's 100% a choice, when did you choose your sexual orientation? What age were you? What do you recall leading to that choice?I agree. It is 100% personal choice, not an inheritance. Most other folly also is not inherited but is the personal choice of the person engaging in it.As I've surmised for years. Nobody is born gay. John's Hopkins Research has vindicated me. No! Weak minded people let themselves be seduced by Satan and then become his disciples living out perverted dangerous homosexual lifestyles putting young kids lives in danger, especially when same sex married couples adopt them for their sexual pleasure. Homosexuality is not inate, it is learned. Science has spoken! Now President Trump should sign an executive order making it mandatory for gays to have conversion therapy so they can return to normal and find God.
Johns Hopkins Research: No Evidence People Are Born Gay Or Transgender
The species defaults to heterosexuality, because if it didn't there wouldn't be a species anymore.
Do you know of any cases where a muslim baker refused to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple? How about a Hindu baker? A Jewish baker? Did you consider that it just might be christian bakers (and only a very few) who are trying to get special protection to discriminate in their business against gays?
Every single person with an IQ over 70 who can watch pathetic Leftists do what they do.
None of these folks would dare go into Muslim enclave and ask for any of this just ask the peaceful Christians for cake and then take them to court over and over and over like the absolute bullies they are.
It's sad. Pathetic.
Gay activists won't do that, will they? Now seriously: you think Islamic bakers, caterers and etc. are really ready to serve the gay community?
But again, the gay activists aren't about to "expose" Islam. Mostly because they're total cowards. Also because "diversity"
If you have to drag other religions into this, it's a sign that you have given up rational argument. All businesses must serve all customers. How could this point be made any clearer?
More of your horseshitAs I've surmised for years. Nobody is born gay. John's Hopkins Research has vindicated me. No! Weak minded people let themselves be seduced by Satan and then become his disciples living out perverted dangerous homosexual lifestyles putting young kids lives in danger, especially when same sex married couples adopt them for their sexual pleasure. Homosexuality is not inate, it is learned. Science has spoken! Now President Trump should sign an executive order making it mandatory for gays to have conversion therapy so they can return to normal and find God.
Johns Hopkins Research: No Evidence People Are Born Gay Or Transgender
The focus of many in the anti-trans movement is to erase what it means to be trans, as evidenced by the position statement issued recently by the American College of Pediatricians, not to be confused with the American Academy of Pediatricians. The so-called College denies some children are transgender and benefit from being respected in those identities.
he movement’s latest effort is a controversial 143-page report that LGBTQ advocates consider an early Christmas gift to religious conservatives. Its authors are Dr. Paul McHugh and Dr. Lawrence Mayer of Johns Hopkins University’s Bloomberg School of Public Health and School of Medicine in Baltimore, Md., who between them have never conducted independent research on LGBTQ Americans.
McHugh, a retired professor at Johns Hopkins and a psychiatrist who considers being trans a "mental disorder," collaborated with Mayer to change what people think about sexuality and gender through science. This is an opponent of transgender rights who made a name for himself by declaring homosexuality a choice, lending his expertise to legal efforts to block same-sex marriage in California. The self-described cultural conservative and strict Catholic once compared the practice of administering hormone therapy to children as akin to performing "liposuction on an anorexic child."
The paper was published in The New Atlantis, which is not a peer-reviewed medical journal, where reports by members of the Johns Hopkins team might normally be found. Instead, it’s the product of the Ethics and Public Policy Center (EPPC), a Christian-focused conservative think tank “dedicated to applying the Judeo-Christian moral tradition to critical areas of public policy.”
As for the baker:
I'm sorry...but I still see the issue as trivial..except for the mountain that all have made out of the molehill.
Furthermore:As I've surmised for years. Nobody is born gay. John's Hopkins Research has vindicated me. No! Weak minded people let themselves be seduced by Satan and then become his disciples living out perverted dangerous homosexual lifestyles putting young kids lives in danger, especially when same sex married couples adopt them for their sexual pleasure. Homosexuality is not inate, it is learned. Science has spoken! Now President Trump should sign an executive order making it mandatory for gays to have conversion therapy so they can return to normal and find God.
Johns Hopkins Research: No Evidence People Are Born Gay Or Transgender
This is a gay wedding cake.Are you saying a wedding cake is like a 'dick' cake?The Irony of a group crying about gays getting "special rights"......getting special rights.
How is the gay person's wedding stopped in any way by having to go somewhere else for a cake?
You want protection from having your feeewwwings hurt by hurting the feewwings (or fining them thousands of dollars) of someone else.
Government doesn't have this job. Stand up for yourself, you gutless hack.
In a lot of cities, there are bakeries that specialize in baking cakes shaped like people's private parts, and they take orders to whatever specifications that the perverted cake eaters want.
Are regular bakeries wrong for not baking these special cakes? Or should they be forced to bake a cake shaped like someone's keister? This gay wedding cake thing is very similar, its a specialized field that offends a lot of people
A Gay Wedding cake certainly is. A lot of bakers would have moral objections to baking a "dick cake" just like they would a Gay Wedding cake. Oftentimes, its the same people too.as is this one.
and another one.
A couple of points.....Not that many people put figures on top of their wedding cakes anymore....and the cake is not part of the actual wedding ceremony in any wedding I've been to....they are something for the reception.
Just like in Climate Change, there are the ignorant fools that cling to a few "denier" science pretenders that claim something that has been widely debunked by their peers.As I've surmised for years. Nobody is born gay. John's Hopkins Research has vindicated me. No! Weak minded people let themselves be seduced by Satan and then become his disciples living out perverted dangerous homosexual lifestyles putting young kids lives in danger, especially when same sex married couples adopt them for their sexual pleasure. Homosexuality is not inate, it is learned. Science has spoken! Now President Trump should sign an executive order making it mandatory for gays to have conversion therapy so they can return to normal and find God.
Johns Hopkins Research: No Evidence People Are Born Gay Or Transgender
As I said before....wait for the day when some christian business owner "claims" they don't have to follow safety or health laws for religious reasons.Churches are not businesses nor do they have business licenses. In fact, they get special rights...even tax exemptions.So why not force Churches to host Same Sex Weddings?
Discrimination has to have some harm to it to be a compelling government interest. and when it comes to Rights, "correcting" the harm has to be done as gently as possible.
The correct solution would be to make them State their policies up front, via a sign, or on their website.
Where does the 1st amendment say only Churches have the right to free exercise, and not individuals?
Free exercise isn't limited to the clergy or limited to when you are sitting in a house of worship.
So the entire adult population of the U.S. has an individual right to the free exercise of religion? This is a Pandora's Box that you don't want to open.
What health or safety law do you think is Unscriptural?
I don't think you know what you are talking about.
I'd highly recommend you pick up a bible and review it, get familiar with Christianity, one of America's top faiths.
I don't know....where is the scriptures does it say to not provide food for gay weddings. One thing we know about people who are religious....they USE their religion to excuse anything.....even if their scriptures say nothing about it. Religious is an excuse for behavior.As I said before....wait for the day when some christian business owner "claims" they don't have to follow safety or health laws for religious reasons.Churches are not businesses nor do they have business licenses. In fact, they get special rights...even tax exemptions.So why not force Churches to host Same Sex Weddings?
Discrimination has to have some harm to it to be a compelling government interest. and when it comes to Rights, "correcting" the harm has to be done as gently as possible.
The correct solution would be to make them State their policies up front, via a sign, or on their website.
Where does the 1st amendment say only Churches have the right to free exercise, and not individuals?
Free exercise isn't limited to the clergy or limited to when you are sitting in a house of worship.
So the entire adult population of the U.S. has an individual right to the free exercise of religion? This is a Pandora's Box that you don't want to open.
What health or safety law do you think is Unscriptural?
I don't think you know what you are talking about.
I'd highly recommend you pick up a bible and review it, get familiar with Christianity, one of America's top faiths.
And.....there it is. "You are lucky we don't throw you off a roof so shut up, gays, and take your 2nd class citizenship."Do you know of any cases where a muslim baker refused to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple? How about a Hindu baker? A Jewish baker? Did you consider that it just might be christian bakers (and only a very few) who are trying to get special protection to discriminate in their business against gays?
Every single person with an IQ over 70 who can watch pathetic Leftists do what they do.
None of these folks would dare go into Muslim enclave and ask for any of this just ask the peaceful Christians for cake and then take them to court over and over and over like the absolute bullies they are.
It's sad. Pathetic.
Gay activists won't do that, will they? Now seriously: you think Islamic bakers, caterers and etc. are really ready to serve the gay community?
But again, the gay activists aren't about to "expose" Islam. Mostly because they're total cowards. Also because "diversity"
Gays are afraid they'll get tossed off a roof
Do you know of any cases where a muslim baker refused to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple? How about a Hindu baker? A Jewish baker? Did you consider that it just might be christian bakers (and only a very few) who are trying to get special protection to discriminate in their business against gays?Says who?
Every single person with an IQ over 70 who can watch pathetic Leftists do what they do.
None of these folks would dare go into Muslim enclave and ask for any of this just ask the peaceful Christians for cake and then take them to court over and over and over like the absolute bullies they are.
It's sad. Pathetic.
Gay activists won't do that, will they? Now seriously: you think Islamic bakers, caterers and etc. are really ready to serve the gay community?
But again, the gay activists aren't about to "expose" Islam. Mostly because they're total cowards. Also because "diversity"
If you have to drag other religions into this, it's a sign that you have given up rational argument. All businesses must serve all customers. How could this point be made any clearer?
No, you want to declare it's a "sign" because you don't want to talk about Islam. Because it exposes you as a total hypocrite, which we already knew.
And no, "all businesses" do not have to serve "all customers". Going into business does not make you an indentured servant to whomever walks through the door. Never has. God willing, never will.
Wants christians to have special business rights.Do you know of any cases where a muslim baker refused to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple? How about a Hindu baker? A Jewish baker? Did you consider that it just might be christian bakers (and only a very few) who are trying to get special protection to discriminate in their business against gays?
Every single person with an IQ over 70 who can watch pathetic Leftists do what they do.
None of these folks would dare go into Muslim enclave and ask for any of this just ask the peaceful Christians for cake and then take them to court over and over and over like the absolute bullies they are.
It's sad. Pathetic.
Gay activists won't do that, will they? Now seriously: you think Islamic bakers, caterers and etc. are really ready to serve the gay community?
But again, the gay activists aren't about to "expose" Islam. Mostly because they're total cowards. Also because "diversity"
If you have to drag other religions into this, it's a sign that you have given up rational argument. All businesses must serve all customers. How could this point be made any clearer?
And.....there it is. "You are lucky we don't throw you off a roof so shut up, gays, and take your 2nd class citizenship."Do you know of any cases where a muslim baker refused to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple? How about a Hindu baker? A Jewish baker? Did you consider that it just might be christian bakers (and only a very few) who are trying to get special protection to discriminate in their business against gays?Says who?
Every single person with an IQ over 70 who can watch pathetic Leftists do what they do.
None of these folks would dare go into Muslim enclave and ask for any of this just ask the peaceful Christians for cake and then take them to court over and over and over like the absolute bullies they are.
It's sad. Pathetic.
Gay activists won't do that, will they? Now seriously: you think Islamic bakers, caterers and etc. are really ready to serve the gay community?
But again, the gay activists aren't about to "expose" Islam. Mostly because they're total cowards. Also because "diversity"
Gays are afraid they'll get tossed off a roof
