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Folks this is another Coup attempt. China is working with the demofks. they are pushing false information. I still haven't seen one person talk about their loved ones dying. Not one. Where's the media with that if this is real? My city has zero. nothing in the hospitals. Call your local hospitals and let me know. I bet they don't have any patients. go for it.
 
Who called him racist when he stopped flights from China? Y'all keep saying that but never provide links to who allegedly did this... are you sure YOU are not just passing along another Trumpian, rightwing, lie?

Sleepy Joe came REAL close to EVERY accusation against Trump's China Travel ban -- EXCEPT racism...

The travel restrictions went into effect at 5:00pm today. Essentially President Trump is putting the health of Americans first. However, in an effort to politicize the Coronavirus, presidential candidate Joe Biden says travel entry restrictions are “hysteria, xenophobia and fearmongering”:

[…] “We have, right now, a crisis with the coronavirus,” Biden said in Iowa Friday. “This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia – hysterical xenophobia – and fearmongering to lead the way instead of science.” (more)

Have a feeling Joe wasn't up on "the science" thing at the time he mouthed off...

Read the rest of poor Old Joes' sleepy response at:

Did you read your first link, (more) that you gave as a source to Biden's comment?

No where in that linked article to Joe's comments did it mention the travel ban?? And Joe's comments about president Trump being xenophobic is nothing new, he's pounded that 'line' about Pres Trump for quite some time before the virus crisis....

... here is what the actual article that you gave a link to, said on it....

Biden slams Trump response to coronavirus epidemic: This is no time for "fearmongering"

Former Vice President Joe Biden hammered President Trump for cutting health programs amid an outbreak of the coronavirus that originated in China and has since spread to the U.S.

“We have, right now, a crisis with the coronavirus,” Biden said in Iowa Friday. “This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia - hysterical xenophobia - and fearmongering to lead the way instead of science.”

The former vice president accused the president of curtailing progress on global health oversight that was made during the Obama administration.


Biden cited “draconian cuts” to the budgets of agencies, including the National Institutes of Health, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the United States Agency for International Development (USAID).
 
No where in that linked article to Joe's comments did it mention the travel ban??

That speech was made within 24 hours of the announcement of the travel ban.. Biden is a "China lacky".. Has constantly denied there were any trade or strategic problems with that nation.. And YES -- if you read Breitbart link, there is a link to the SOURCE which is The Hill and they TITLED the thread to be "about the travel ban"...

I believe one or more posters have also given you media links to hosts and guests expressing the same views about the travel ban...

Mind you -- ALL THIS happened while the impeachment was just winded up and Trump had a HUGE head start on ANY leading Democrats to address the Corona Virus problem.. 1st China travel ban came a day or so BEFORE the impeachment was even over...
 
sorry Care4all, the link I gave was Conservative Treehouse -- which STILL list "The Hill" as the source of Biden's remarks... The headline at the Hill was...

Biden slams Trump response to coronavirus epidemic: This is no time for "fearmongering"
BY TAL AXELROD - 02/01/20 01:23 PM EST

 
Folks this is another Coup attempt. China is working with the demofks. they are pushing false information. I still haven't seen one person talk about their loved ones dying. Not one. Where's the media with that if this is real? My city has zero. nothing in the hospitals. Call your local hospitals and let me know. I bet they don't have any patients. go for it.

Hey mr Conspiracy theory.. My daughter is in Med Research at Vanderbilt.. Ground zero for the outbreak in Tenn. She's had 2 co-workers diagnosed.. KNOWS there are cases at the Med center...

You think these people are "faking it"?????
 
No where in that linked article to Joe's comments did it mention the travel ban??

That speech was made within 24 hours of the announcement of the travel ban.. Biden is a "China lacky".. Has constantly denied there were any trade or strategic problems with that nation.. And YES -- if you read Breitbart link, there is a link to the SOURCE which is The Hill and they TITLED the thread to be "about the travel ban"...

I believe one or more posters have also given you media links to hosts and guests expressing the same views about the travel ban...

Mind you -- ALL THIS happened while the impeachment was just winded up and Trump had a HUGE head start on ANY leading Democrats to address the Corona Virus problem.. 1st China travel ban came a day or so BEFORE the impeachment was even over...
There was one Asian American Congresswoman, who no body knows, or ever heard about, who represents an Asian, Chinese American community that was being discriminated against since the virus hit, who made that comment about president Trump inciting racism etc etc.....

But the rig h t wing took that and spread it like wild fire That Democrats as in all of us, accused Trump as being racist for the partial China travel ban.... yet I never heard it on the liberal news that the Democratic party was calling it that, and this is what democrats think....And I watch or hear the liberal news, most all day long.... NONE of that, most were happy with the ban, though late... the virus was here already, spreading around the country.... it still helped prevent this community spread from being even worse... it was a good move....imo, and most others.

Pres Trump changing and calling it The CHinese virus instead or its proper name, The Corona Virus or COVID19, or him calling it The Kung Flu was purposely done by him to irritate Democrats, Scientists, and the Chinese.... You can't deny it.... it is, who he is....imo.
 
Pres Trump changing and calling it The CHinese virus instead or its proper name, The Corona Virus or COVID19, or him calling it The Kung Flu was purposely done by him to irritate Democrats, Scientists, and the Chinese.... You can't deny it.... it is, who he is....imo.

Complete Bullshit with all respect.. I've seen MONTAGES of ALL the media -- especially the heads up DNC ass media calling it the Chinese Flu or WuHan flu before the HERD masters of the Dems told them it was racist to do so...

This is ABSURD... THey were ALL DOING IT until the Chief Rabbi of the Dem's diversity enforcement FORBID IT...

It's no worse than the Spanish Flu or other illnesses associated with origin ... I think Dems are becoming too fragile to even exist or something...

Need to not flake out this easily... Take ANY epidemic disease and chances are the ORIGIN is in the popular name OR EVEN --- the scientific name.... From the Wiki....

Ebola virus and its genus were both originally named for Zaire (now the Democratic Republic of Congo), the country where it was first described,[1] and was at first suspected to be a new "strain" of the closely related Marburg virus.[5][6] The virus was renamed "Ebola virus" in 2010 to avoid confusion. Ebola virus is the single member of the species Zaire ebolavirus,

FFS -- Zaire is STILL in the scientific naming of the disease... Y'all need to grow up...
 


Have to admit watching this vid about Italy made me cry.

In US news, it appears the CDC made testing blunders. We should've gone with the test kits developed by Germany and what WHO recommended.

 
I put this in Politics because if I put it in health, few will see it. As well as politics of this virus was clouding my mind in the same way it has clouded all of our minds.
As mentioned before, my son is a Respiratory Care Specialist at one of the nations leading Children's hospitals and my daughter is a Respiratory Therapist at a large metropolitan hospital/trauma center. When I say they are on the front lines of this, I mean they are on the front lines.
Up until Friday, I was not that concerned about getting it, or my wife or the two of them. Like most, I was comfortable in the knowledge that it is primarily a concern for the very old/folks with underlying illness.
That is no longer the case.
This weekend, all over the country hospitals are getting much younger patients that require life saving care - and they have no other illness. And the numbers you are seeing reported are not representative of the actual numbers. It is higher.
Like many, I scoffed at all of these restrictions the government was laying out. 4 states with "stay at home" orders. I thought this was over reacting.
Until I got a call from both my kids. Especially my daughter, upset and for the first time afraid and scared. "It is really bad here Dad, we are getting more and more and they are getting younger".
A 32 year old, who 48 hours earlier was at work, feeling a little funny. Last night he was on life support and fighting for his life. Add more to that. Kids also.

The situation is evolving. And it is changing in not a good way.
Take it serious folks. Don't wait until it effects you or someone you know. Change what you are doing now.
Thank God our government took this more seriously than we did.... I guess they knew more than us.




On a good note. The malaria drug is showing promise. Yesterday a 66 year old at the hospital was in critical condition on a breathing machine. He has received 2 malaria shots, is now off the machine and sitting up and talking. It isn't working for everyone, but it is clearly having positive results on some.

I would think there would be more young people dying then.

I think the youngest death outside of China, is still a man in his 40s, who had a pre-existing condition.

Now I get it that some people younger are having hard conditions, but that's a minority, correct?
 
I would think there would be more young people dying then.

I think the youngest death outside of China, is still a man in his 40s, who had a pre-existing condition.

Now I get it that some people younger are having hard conditions, but that's a minority, correct?

There are young people dying who've had underlying conditions. They are the ones filling up the hospitals now as they've got serious breathing problems. They take space away from the old as the decision has been made in the US to save the younger patients. Furthermore, I think once you get it and are young and healthy, then you now have an underlying condition. This virus makes a sticky substance on the lungs. It makes it difficult to cough up thru phlegm. Thus, everybody young and old have trouble breathing. The old are more susceptible and the virus spreads in their lungs like it wants to. Then it can populate the most and now poses a danger if the body isn't cremated. We need more information about this virus, but to do an autopsy is danger in itself. The autopsy doctor is facing the most dangerous virus in the history of the world.

 
Pres Trump changing and calling it The CHinese virus instead or its proper name, The Corona Virus or COVID19, or him calling it The Kung Flu was purposely done by him to irritate Democrats, Scientists, and the Chinese.... You can't deny it.... it is, who he is....imo.

Complete Bullshit with all respect.. I've seen MONTAGES of ALL the media -- especially the heads up DNC ass media calling it the Chinese Flu or WuHan flu before the HERD masters of the Dems told them it was racist to do so...

This is ABSURD... THey were ALL DOING IT until the Chief Rabbi of the Dem's diversity enforcement FORBID IT...

It's no worse than the Spanish Flu or other illnesses associated with origin ... I think Dems are becoming too fragile to even exist or something...

Need to not flake out this easily... Take ANY epidemic disease and chances are the ORIGIN is in the popular name OR EVEN --- the scientific name.... From the Wiki....

Ebola virus and its genus were both originally named for Zaire (now the Democratic Republic of Congo), the country where it was first described,[1] and was at first suspected to be a new "strain" of the closely related Marburg virus.[5][6] The virus was renamed "Ebola virus" in 2010 to avoid confusion. Ebola virus is the single member of the species Zaire ebolavirus,

FFS -- Zaire is STILL in the scientific naming of the disease... Y'all need to grow up...
You know what Flacal, I truly don't want to argue with you... You see and hear what you've been guided to hear, and I too see and hear what I've been trained to hear.... we are not going to agree....

You don't see him the way he comes off to us, on a daily basis.... y'all are just blind to it, or simply don't care....?

And we do not, in any way, shape or form..... see him, as anything, that even remotely, resembles, good.... or good for this Nation! We will simply never see what y'all ever saw in him or why you think he's been good as a president or good for this country, long term.... maybe we are blind to it??

Anyway, it was recently that liberals started mentioning his comments as racist, not back with the travel ban from China, because.... drum roll, he CHOSE to play on it in that manner.... maybe not to rile the bigotry towards Chinese Americans from a handful of his followers, but to cast a spotlight and a shadow on the Chinese govt for temporarily, holding back, what info they had, on this new pneumonia showing up there in Wuhan County...which helped facilitate the pandemic.... not realizing bigotry against American Chinese would or even could, be a result....but that is just so so so being unaware, of reality, it's unimaginable....imo.

Yes, the virus did begin in Wuhan county, in China. Yes it has been called the Wuhan Virus, quite a bit, early on, until the official name, the novel Coronavirus Disease 2019, took hold... COVID19....
 
I put this in Politics because if I put it in health, few will see it. As well as politics of this virus was clouding my mind in the same way it has clouded all of our minds.
As mentioned before, my son is a Respiratory Care Specialist at one of the nations leading Children's hospitals and my daughter is a Respiratory Therapist at a large metropolitan hospital/trauma center. When I say they are on the front lines of this, I mean they are on the front lines.
Up until Friday, I was not that concerned about getting it, or my wife or the two of them. Like most, I was comfortable in the knowledge that it is primarily a concern for the very old/folks with underlying illness.
That is no longer the case.
This weekend, all over the country hospitals are getting much younger patients that require life saving care - and they have no other illness. And the numbers you are seeing reported are not representative of the actual numbers. It is higher.
Like many, I scoffed at all of these restrictions the government was laying out. 4 states with "stay at home" orders. I thought this was over reacting.
Until I got a call from both my kids. Especially my daughter, upset and for the first time afraid and scared. "It is really bad here Dad, we are getting more and more and they are getting younger".
A 32 year old, who 48 hours earlier was at work, feeling a little funny. Last night he was on life support and fighting for his life. Add more to that. Kids also.

The situation is evolving. And it is changing in not a good way.
Take it serious folks. Don't wait until it effects you or someone you know. Change what you are doing now.
Thank God our government took this more seriously than we did.... I guess they knew more than us.




On a good note. The malaria drug is showing promise. Yesterday a 66 year old at the hospital was in critical condition on a breathing machine. He has received 2 malaria shots, is now off the machine and sitting up and talking. It isn't working for everyone, but it is clearly having positive results on some.
Why must it take something personal to happen to THEM for self-proclaimed conservatives and other assorted rightwingers BEFORE they snap out of their stupor and start to have some sense?

Why!?!??
 
Pres Trump changing and calling it The CHinese virus instead or its proper name, The Corona Virus or COVID19, or him calling it The Kung Flu was purposely done by him to irritate Democrats, Scientists, and the Chinese.... You can't deny it.... it is, who he is....imo.

Complete Bullshit with all respect.. I've seen MONTAGES of ALL the media -- especially the heads up DNC ass media calling it the Chinese Flu or WuHan flu before the HERD masters of the Dems told them it was racist to do so...

This is ABSURD... THey were ALL DOING IT until the Chief Rabbi of the Dem's diversity enforcement FORBID IT...

It's no worse than the Spanish Flu or other illnesses associated with origin ... I think Dems are becoming too fragile to even exist or something...

Need to not flake out this easily... Take ANY epidemic disease and chances are the ORIGIN is in the popular name OR EVEN --- the scientific name.... From the Wiki....

Ebola virus and its genus were both originally named for Zaire (now the Democratic Republic of Congo), the country where it was first described,[1] and was at first suspected to be a new "strain" of the closely related Marburg virus.[5][6] The virus was renamed "Ebola virus" in 2010 to avoid confusion. Ebola virus is the single member of the species Zaire ebolavirus,

FFS -- Zaire is STILL in the scientific naming of the disease... Y'all need to grow up...
You know what Flacal, I truly don't want to argue with you... You see and hear what you've been guided to hear, and I too see and hear what I've been trained to hear.... we are not going to agree....

You don't see him the way he comes off to us, on a daily basis.... y'all are just blind to it, or simply don't care....?

And we do not, in any way, shape or form..... see him, as anything, that even remotely, resembles, good.... or good for this Nation! We will simply never see what y'all ever saw in him or why you think he's been good as a president or good for this country, long term.... maybe we are blind to it??

Anyway, it was recently that liberals started mentioning his comments as racist, not back with the travel ban from China, because.... drum roll, he CHOSE to play on it in that manner.... maybe not to rile the bigotry towards Chinese Americans from a handful of his followers, but to cast a spotlight and a shadow on the Chinese govt for temporarily, holding back, what info they had, on this new pneumonia showing up there in Wuhan County...which helped facilitate the pandemic.... not realizing bigotry against American Chinese would or even could, be a result....but that is just so so so being unaware, of reality, it's unimaginable....imo.

Yes, the virus did begin in Wuhan county, in China. Yes it has been called the Wuhan Virus, quite a bit, early on, until the official name, the novel Coronavirus Disease 2019, took hold... COVID19....

And he's instigated the same kind of bigotry before the same way. Not just "beat the crap out of 'em" at rallies but shit like this (against Hispanics) and this (against Muslims), not to mention the "very fine" Tiki-torcher set. How they find a way to not-see this instigation requires serious self-delusion.
 
Folks this is another Coup attempt. China is working with the demofks. they are pushing false information. I still haven't seen one person talk about their loved ones dying. Not one. Where's the media with that if this is real? My city has zero. nothing in the hospitals. Call your local hospitals and let me know. I bet they don't have any patients. go for it.
Wow. You are living in a dream world. So because you don't know anyone who has lost someone (not that surprising, since the total right now is around 500 people out of 300 million), you don't think this is real? This whole thing is a coup attempt by China and the democrats? This defies belief.
 
No where in that linked article to Joe's comments did it mention the travel ban??

That speech was made within 24 hours of the announcement of the travel ban.. Biden is a "China lacky".. Has constantly denied there were any trade or strategic problems with that nation.. And YES -- if you read Breitbart link, there is a link to the SOURCE which is The Hill and they TITLED the thread to be "about the travel ban"...

I believe one or more posters have also given you media links to hosts and guests expressing the same views about the travel ban...

Mind you -- ALL THIS happened while the impeachment was just winded up and Trump had a HUGE head start on ANY leading Democrats to address the Corona Virus problem.. 1st China travel ban came a day or so BEFORE the impeachment was even over...
There was one Asian American Congresswoman, who no body knows, or ever heard about, who represents an Asian, Chinese American community that was being discriminated against since the virus hit, who made that comment about president Trump inciting racism etc etc.....

But the rig h t wing took that and spread it like wild fire That Democrats as in all of us, accused Trump as being racist for the partial China travel ban.... yet I never heard it on the liberal news that the Democratic party was calling it that, and this is what democrats think....And I watch or hear the liberal news, most all day long.... NONE of that, most were happy with the ban, though late... the virus was here already, spreading around the country.... it still helped prevent this community spread from being even worse... it was a good move....imo, and most others.

Pres Trump changing and calling it The CHinese virus instead or its proper name, The Corona Virus or COVID19, or him calling it The Kung Flu was purposely done by him to irritate Democrats, Scientists, and the Chinese.... You can't deny it.... it is, who he is....imo.
WaPo published a story about it a while ago with a guy calling Trump a 'racist.' look it up.
 
I put this in Politics because if I put it in health, few will see it. As well as politics of this virus was clouding my mind in the same way it has clouded all of our minds.
As mentioned before, my son is a Respiratory Care Specialist at one of the nations leading Children's hospitals and my daughter is a Respiratory Therapist at a large metropolitan hospital/trauma center. When I say they are on the front lines of this, I mean they are on the front lines.
Up until Friday, I was not that concerned about getting it, or my wife or the two of them. Like most, I was comfortable in the knowledge that it is primarily a concern for the very old/folks with underlying illness.
That is no longer the case.
This weekend, all over the country hospitals are getting much younger patients that require life saving care - and they have no other illness. And the numbers you are seeing reported are not representative of the actual numbers. It is higher.
Like many, I scoffed at all of these restrictions the government was laying out. 4 states with "stay at home" orders. I thought this was over reacting.
Until I got a call from both my kids. Especially my daughter, upset and for the first time afraid and scared. "It is really bad here Dad, we are getting more and more and they are getting younger".
A 32 year old, who 48 hours earlier was at work, feeling a little funny. Last night he was on life support and fighting for his life. Add more to that. Kids also.

The situation is evolving. And it is changing in not a good way.
Take it serious folks. Don't wait until it effects you or someone you know. Change what you are doing now.
Thank God our government took this more seriously than we did.... I guess they knew more than us.




On a good note. The malaria drug is showing promise. Yesterday a 66 year old at the hospital was in critical condition on a breathing machine. He has received 2 malaria shots, is now off the machine and sitting up and talking. It isn't working for everyone, but it is clearly having positive results on some.

I would think there would be more young people dying then.

I think the youngest death outside of China, is still a man in his 40s, who had a pre-existing condition.

Now I get it that some people younger are having hard conditions, but that's a minority, correct?
Do you not know how to use the internet? Young people have died from covid-19.
 
So, we now know that it is mostly people with prior respiratory problems that are the main sources of new cases being found,via 'self-reporting' for tests with specific symptoms? That tells there are many more people out there with mild or no symptoms that aren't being counted in the numbers and the statistics are not accurate re how deadly this really is at this point.

As for the name, why should we not be calling it the Chinese or Wuhan virus, again? Oh yeah, cuz Democrats have nothing real to whine about as they shut down relief efforts trying to get more bucks stuffed into their cronies' pockets.
 
No where in that linked article to Joe's comments did it mention the travel ban??

That speech was made within 24 hours of the announcement of the travel ban.. Biden is a "China lacky".. Has constantly denied there were any trade or strategic problems with that nation.. And YES -- if you read Breitbart link, there is a link to the SOURCE which is The Hill and they TITLED the thread to be "about the travel ban"...

I believe one or more posters have also given you media links to hosts and guests expressing the same views about the travel ban...

Mind you -- ALL THIS happened while the impeachment was just winded up and Trump had a HUGE head start on ANY leading Democrats to address the Corona Virus problem.. 1st China travel ban came a day or so BEFORE the impeachment was even over...
There was one Asian American Congresswoman, who no body knows, or ever heard about, who represents an Asian, Chinese American community that was being discriminated against since the virus hit, who made that comment about president Trump inciting racism etc etc.....

But the rig h t wing took that and spread it like wild fire That Democrats as in all of us, accused Trump as being racist for the partial China travel ban.... yet I never heard it on the liberal news that the Democratic party was calling it that, and this is what democrats think....And I watch or hear the liberal news, most all day long.... NONE of that, most were happy with the ban, though late... the virus was here already, spreading around the country.... it still helped prevent this community spread from being even worse... it was a good move....imo, and most others.

Pres Trump changing and calling it The CHinese virus instead or its proper name, The Corona Virus or COVID19, or him calling it The Kung Flu was purposely done by him to irritate Democrats, Scientists, and the Chinese.... You can't deny it.... it is, who he is....imo.
WaPo published a story about it a while ago with a guy calling Trump a 'racist.' look it up.

Well, this is normal for left wing bots; first they claim or try to convince us all about how well informed n stuff they are, then they almost immediately turn 180 degrees and play Stupid n Ignorant about the topic when they're contradicted by their own earlier media stories.
 
No where in that linked article to Joe's comments did it mention the travel ban??

That speech was made within 24 hours of the announcement of the travel ban.. Biden is a "China lacky".. Has constantly denied there were any trade or strategic problems with that nation.. And YES -- if you read Breitbart link, there is a link to the SOURCE which is The Hill and they TITLED the thread to be "about the travel ban"...

I believe one or more posters have also given you media links to hosts and guests expressing the same views about the travel ban...

Mind you -- ALL THIS happened while the impeachment was just winded up and Trump had a HUGE head start on ANY leading Democrats to address the Corona Virus problem.. 1st China travel ban came a day or so BEFORE the impeachment was even over...
January 31st...........and Biden went into the Xenophobia to ban travel routine.

Was weeks later that they even formed a committee to even act concerned about what was coming here. The Ban ..........whether they like it or not..................bought us time.......Or we would have had the growth we have now at the same time Europe did.
 
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