Ideas for fixing minimum wage.

Yeah, the state has to be there for something. Personally I think after this amount of time with a minimum wage the idea of going back to a time w/o one is more radical. Almost something that would push folks to use labor unions. A terrifying thought in this era of low unemployment. I would have thought you preferred our elected officials setting workplace standards over the Teamsters.

Unions are free market though. Interesting.
No, The State doesn't need to be there, especially in the area of setting prices....When you're an opioid addict, the notion of not taking the drug seems a radical course of action....But nobody will argue that it's not the right thing to do.

With the Teamsters, there's at least something that passes itself off as negotiation...With The State you get no such option.
Only the right wing complains about the Minimum wage in our First World economy.

Only left wing complains about a non issue

Hey, you don't identify as a "wing" do you?

I'll say having to bend my thoughts on any issue to a particular ideology or as a political party demands is a foreign idea to me.

It's a simple question, why do you want it raised national when you can do it local?

The democrats have now 60 million under their wing .

I'm an American and prefer Federal Regulations. I watch even the cities here bend offering more and more money to companies like Amazon to do this and that. No need to set Americans competing against eachother in a race to the bottom.
 
No, The State doesn't need to be there, especially in the area of setting prices....When you're an opioid addict, the notion of not taking the drug seems a radical course of action....But nobody will argue that it's not the right thing to do.

With the Teamsters, there's at least something that passes itself off as negotiation...With The State you get no such option.
Only the right wing complains about the Minimum wage in our First World economy.

Only left wing complains about a non issue

Hey, you don't identify as a "wing" do you?

I'll say having to bend my thoughts on any issue to a particular ideology or as a political party demands is a foreign idea to me.

It's a simple question, why do you want it raised national when you can do it local?

The democrats have now 60 million under their wing .

I'm an American and prefer Federal Regulations. I watch even the cities here bend offering more and more money to companies like Amazon to do this and that. No need to set Americans competing against eachother in a race to the bottom.

Look at the job boards, the higher a states minimum wage is the lower people get paid.


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Only the right wing complains about the Minimum wage in our First World economy.

Only left wing complains about a non issue

Hey, you don't identify as a "wing" do you?

I'll say having to bend my thoughts on any issue to a particular ideology or as a political party demands is a foreign idea to me.

It's a simple question, why do you want it raised national when you can do it local?

The democrats have now 60 million under their wing .

I'm an American and prefer Federal Regulations. I watch even the cities here bend offering more and more money to companies like Amazon to do this and that. No need to set Americans competing against eachother in a race to the bottom.

Look at the job boards, the higher a states minimum wage is the lower people get paid.


.

Cool. That other poster mentioned a danger of raising the minimum wage was a rise in inflation. Guess we disproved that to them.
 
Only left wing complains about a non issue

Hey, you don't identify as a "wing" do you?

I'll say having to bend my thoughts on any issue to a particular ideology or as a political party demands is a foreign idea to me.

It's a simple question, why do you want it raised national when you can do it local?

The democrats have now 60 million under their wing .

I'm an American and prefer Federal Regulations. I watch even the cities here bend offering more and more money to companies like Amazon to do this and that. No need to set Americans competing against eachother in a race to the bottom.

Look at the job boards, the higher a states minimum wage is the lower people get paid.


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Cool. That other poster mentioned a danger of raising the minimum wage was a rise in inflation. Guess we disproved that to them.

How did you do that? Minimum wage used to be 25 cents an hour .


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The obvious fix is to get rid of the minimum wage altogether. Individuals should be free to set the the price for their labor.

Allow low skilled workers to be exploited because they can't do anything about it

Might makes right
 
Hey, you don't identify as a "wing" do you?

I'll say having to bend my thoughts on any issue to a particular ideology or as a political party demands is a foreign idea to me.

It's a simple question, why do you want it raised national when you can do it local?

The democrats have now 60 million under their wing .

I'm an American and prefer Federal Regulations. I watch even the cities here bend offering more and more money to companies like Amazon to do this and that. No need to set Americans competing against eachother in a race to the bottom.

Look at the job boards, the higher a states minimum wage is the lower people get paid.


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Cool. That other poster mentioned a danger of raising the minimum wage was a rise in inflation. Guess we disproved that to them.

How did you do that? Minimum wage used to be 25 cents an hour .


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Used to be able to buy a lot of stuff for a quarter
 
The obvious fix is to get rid of the minimum wage altogether. Individuals should be free to set the the price for their labor.

Allow low skilled workers to be exploited because they can't do anything about it

Might makes right

Tiresome bilge water, bub.

Here's what you pea-green with envy progs fail to realize: minimum wage jobs have low economic value for a reason. Those who take them get more than money; they gain skills, experience and a work ethic. But you would rather deny people these benefits and turn them into wards of the state.
 
It's a simple question, why do you want it raised national when you can do it local?

The democrats have now 60 million under their wing .

I'm an American and prefer Federal Regulations. I watch even the cities here bend offering more and more money to companies like Amazon to do this and that. No need to set Americans competing against eachother in a race to the bottom.

Look at the job boards, the higher a states minimum wage is the lower people get paid.


.

Cool. That other poster mentioned a danger of raising the minimum wage was a rise in inflation. Guess we disproved that to them.

How did you do that? Minimum wage used to be 25 cents an hour .


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Used to be able to buy a lot of stuff for a quarter

And women were barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen..


You want it raised start local


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How about government pass a minimum wage requirement for government jobs and leave private business to set their own standards and compete? I’m open to setting standards on large corporations that control marketplaces and employ a large amount of citizens however I don’t think small businesses should be regulated in the same way.

That's interesting. Big business has a way of making us all pay for their continued success. Ask Amazon.

Where would you draw the lines? 50 employees? A million in revenue? I'll assume we have rules to get around the tricks of a company running itself as multiple corporations.

"Big business has a way of making us all pay for their continued success"

See, this is where you get it ass-backwards. They don't make us pay for anything, it's our choice for what we buy and at what price. We can choose to buy something at Amazon, or Walmart, or anywhere else, or not to buy it at all if we do not believe we are getting enough value for our money. Big business is successful if and only if they provide us with what we want at a price we are willing to pay. That is why competition is so important, we get more choices and better value for what we want.

Same deal with labor, as an employee I can decide whether or not to work for somebody or not at whatever wage they are offering. If necessary, I can work there and gain the experience needed to get a better paying job elsewhere and move up the income ladder. The M-Wage is supposed to be low-skill, entry-level jobs, it's not supposed to be a way of life and if you so choose not to make the effort to increase your the value of your skills and labor then that's on you. I see no reason to automatically increase your pay to keep up with inflation, that is also on you. Why is it that you and many other lib/dems will not take the personal responsibility for your decisions?
 
For the life of me I can't figure out why we don't just tie minimum wage to the Consumer Price Index or something. Have it adjust yearly and leave it alone.

We COULD attach it to Gross Domestic Product, give everyone "skin in the game" so to say.

We COULD attach it to some measurement of Board of Directors pay/reimbursement packages for humorous effect.

Where would my first idea about the Consumer Price Index go wrong or is there a better measure?

So you want to make it harder and more expensive for employers to hire people right?

There are some jobs that do not merit high pay just like there are some employees that don't merit a raise every year

The idea that a job must pay enough for anyone to live a defined lifestyle is ridiculous.

A job picking up piles of dog crap pays what it's worth to the market if you want to earn more then better yourself so that your skill set includes more than the minimum required to pick up dog crap.

Unemployment isn't a problem.

I also didn't say much about increasing minimum wage, just tying it to inflation. If anything that saves some time in congress.

FWIW, now that you mention it, tying minimum wage to CEO pay just might help companies stay more profitable.


Give me one good reason why you want to raise it national?


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I was merely talking about tying it to inflation or the CPI or whatever as this debate is starting to come up again. It gets tiresome every decade or so having to go raise it.

Because raising it causes it



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Here is that poster who said raising the minimum wage causes inflation.

Then this other poster against just tying minimum wage to the CPI said it lowers wages.

That is the strangest thing. Its like they both just have an ideology to support or a political party master telling them what they are and are not for. If these posters used their own common sense they would be for or against this for a consistent reason.
 
How about government pass a minimum wage requirement for government jobs and leave private business to set their own standards and compete? I’m open to setting standards on large corporations that control marketplaces and employ a large amount of citizens however I don’t think small businesses should be regulated in the same way.

That's interesting. Big business has a way of making us all pay for their continued success. Ask Amazon.

Where would you draw the lines? 50 employees? A million in revenue? I'll assume we have rules to get around the tricks of a company running itself as multiple corporations.

"Big business has a way of making us all pay for their continued success"

See, this is where you get it ass-backwards. They don't make us pay for anything, it's our choice for what we buy and at what price. We can choose to buy something at Amazon, or Walmart, or anywhere else, or not to buy it at all if we do not believe we are getting enough value for our money. Big business is successful if and only if they provide us with what we want at a price we are willing to pay. That is why competition is so important, we get more choices and better value for what we want.

Same deal with labor, as an employee I can decide whether or not to work for somebody or not at whatever wage they are offering. If necessary, I can work there and gain the experience needed to get a better paying job elsewhere and move up the income ladder. The M-Wage is supposed to be low-skill, entry-level jobs, it's not supposed to be a way of life and if you so choose not to make the effort to increase your the value of your skills and labor then that's on you. I see no reason to automatically increase your pay to keep up with inflation, that is also on you. Why is it that you and many other lib/dems will not take the personal responsibility for your decisions?

Its a trick of words. you already set minimum wage at this or that % of what it costs to live. Also during our lives they have revisited this several times always resetting it partially.

Really with big business making us pay, I was referencing how municipalities and states pay for corporate headquarters and this or that just like football stadiums.
 
I was merely talking about tying it to inflation or the CPI or whatever as this debate is starting to come up again. It gets tiresome every decade or so having to go raise it.

Because raising it causes it



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That's fine. better to do it regular like instead of unpredictably every decade or so,

Their has to be a reason why you want I raised, it's obvious you don't make minimum wage


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Efficiency is a thing. The debate is being made again about readjusting to it. If we had just fixed it to CPI or whatever last time America would be more efficient.

You are arguing to make it more efficient to do something that is really stupid. Should we make it more efficient to start a war? How about more efficient to raise your taxes, I'm guessing you might like that one.

Minimum wage is this or that ratio or percentage to CPI. Unemployment is 3%. Where is the harm in fixing minimum wage there? I think we are just as likely to screw it up too high or to low every ten or fifteen years and would just like to set it.
 
Yeah, the state has to be there for something. Personally I think after this amount of time with a minimum wage the idea of going back to a time w/o one is more radical. Almost something that would push folks to use labor unions. A terrifying thought in this era of low unemployment. I would have thought you preferred our elected officials setting workplace standards over the Teamsters.

Unions are free market though. Interesting.
No, The State doesn't need to be there, especially in the area of setting prices....When you're an opioid addict, the notion of not taking the drug seems a radical course of action....But nobody will argue that it's not the right thing to do.

With the Teamsters, there's at least something that passes itself off as negotiation...With The State you get no such option.
Only the right wing complains about the Minimum wage in our First World economy.

Only left wing complains about a non issue
thank you for your support for a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed.
 
Because raising it causes it



.

That's fine. better to do it regular like instead of unpredictably every decade or so,

Their has to be a reason why you want I raised, it's obvious you don't make minimum wage


.

Efficiency is a thing. The debate is being made again about readjusting to it. If we had just fixed it to CPI or whatever last time America would be more efficient.

You are arguing to make it more efficient to do something that is really stupid. Should we make it more efficient to start a war? How about more efficient to raise your taxes, I'm guessing you might like that one.

Minimum wage is this or that ratio or percentage to CPI. Unemployment is 3%. Where is the harm in fixing minimum wage there? I think we are just as likely to screw it up too high or to low every ten or fifteen years and would just like to set it.

Do it local
 
That's fine. better to do it regular like instead of unpredictably every decade or so,

Their has to be a reason why you want I raised, it's obvious you don't make minimum wage


.

Efficiency is a thing. The debate is being made again about readjusting to it. If we had just fixed it to CPI or whatever last time America would be more efficient.

You are arguing to make it more efficient to do something that is really stupid. Should we make it more efficient to start a war? How about more efficient to raise your taxes, I'm guessing you might like that one.

Minimum wage is this or that ratio or percentage to CPI. Unemployment is 3%. Where is the harm in fixing minimum wage there? I think we are just as likely to screw it up too high or to low every ten or fifteen years and would just like to set it.

Do it local

Do it local and have every city and county in America competing with eachother? Please, let some group of idiots pay Amazon to build a building there so we can bail them out?

Bully the red states? In this case I think you mean bully the old blue states if anyone doesn't have a minimum wage. For something dramatic, go Eisenhower for using the Band of Brothers to bully Arkansas into the 19th century in 1957. Little Rock Nine - Wikipedia

Here we are talking not about creating a minimum wage, not about effectively raising it, but just fixing it to some economic indicator.
 
You need the national minimum up to prevent jobs from leaving your states


Admit it


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That's fine. better to do it regular like instead of unpredictably every decade or so,

Their has to be a reason why you want I raised, it's obvious you don't make minimum wage


.

Efficiency is a thing. The debate is being made again about readjusting to it. If we had just fixed it to CPI or whatever last time America would be more efficient.

You are arguing to make it more efficient to do something that is really stupid. Should we make it more efficient to start a war? How about more efficient to raise your taxes, I'm guessing you might like that one.

Minimum wage is this or that ratio or percentage to CPI. Unemployment is 3%. Where is the harm in fixing minimum wage there? I think we are just as likely to screw it up too high or to low every ten or fifteen years and would just like to set it.

You will never admit the game is to prevent blue States from losing jobs


Admit it.


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allegedly low tax red States are cheaper for a less developed reason; only the third world is less developed.
 

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