If Ebola is so contagious why

[Rotagilla]

Would you ride in a car/plane/bus with someone who has ebola?
Would you invite them into your house?

And, given the geometric progression by which such a virus can spread, even through a lower-order physical-contact transmission vector...

How many of us can say with certainty that we have not already done so?

Just ask that school district in Ohio...

Or those thousands of passengers on that Carnival cruise liner...

If each potential carrier comes into contact with even as few as two (2) others per day...

Many of you already know how quickly simple binary math (counting) gets out of hand in such calculations....

1 x 2 = 2 | x 2 = 4 | x 2 = 8 | x 2 = 16 | x 2 = 32 | x 2 = 64 | x 2 = 128 | x 2 = 256 | x 2 = 512 | x 2 = 1024 | x 2 = 2048 | x 2 = 4096 | x 2 = 8192 | x 2 = 16348 | x 2 = 32768 | x 2 = 65536 | x 2 = 131072 | etc... etc... etc... and that's only two additional contacts per potential carrier... and only for a single day.

The risk-factor computations get out of hand pretty damned fast, even in that sort of limited (2 people, 1 day) scenario, but, starting adding more contacts and multiple days to the computations, and the risk numbers start approaching the stratosphere.

That doesn't mean that we have to freak out and do the sky-is-falling thing.

But it does mean that we need to start using our common sense with respect to minimizing the number of incoming potential carriers, and acting on such common-sense concerns.

Common sense yes, hysteria, no.

I see..When YOU want to avoid it, it's "common sense"..if someone else wants to avoid it, it's "hysteria".

LMAO...right...agenda revealed.

 

[PredFan]

Would you ride in a car/plane/bus with someone who has ebola?
Would you invite them into your house?

And, given the geometric progression by which such a virus can spread, even through a lower-order physical-contact transmission vector...

How many of us can say with certainty that we have not already done so?

Just ask that school district in Ohio...

Or those thousands of passengers on that Carnival cruise liner...

If each potential carrier comes into contact with even as few as two (2) others per day...

Many of you already know how quickly simple binary math (counting) gets out of hand in such calculations....

1 x 2 = 2 | x 2 = 4 | x 2 = 8 | x 2 = 16 | x 2 = 32 | x 2 = 64 | x 2 = 128 | x 2 = 256 | x 2 = 512 | x 2 = 1024 | x 2 = 2048 | x 2 = 4096 | x 2 = 8192 | x 2 = 16348 | x 2 = 32768 | x 2 = 65536 | x 2 = 131072 | etc... etc... etc... and that's only two additional contacts per potential carrier... and only for a single day.

The risk-factor computations get out of hand pretty damned fast, even in that sort of limited (2 people, 1 day) scenario, but, starting adding more contacts and multiple days to the computations, and the risk numbers start approaching the stratosphere.

That doesn't mean that we have to freak out and do the sky-is-falling thing.

But it does mean that we need to start using our common sense with respect to minimizing the number of incoming potential carriers, and acting on such common-sense concerns.

Common sense yes, hysteria, no.

I see..When YOU want to avoid it, it's "common sense"..if someone else wants to avoid it, it's "hysteria".

LMAO...right...agenda revealed.

ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz...........

 

[Rotagilla]

Would you ride in a car/plane/bus with someone who has ebola?
Would you invite them into your house?

And, given the geometric progression by which such a virus can spread, even through a lower-order physical-contact transmission vector...

How many of us can say with certainty that we have not already done so?

Just ask that school district in Ohio...

Or those thousands of passengers on that Carnival cruise liner...

If each potential carrier comes into contact with even as few as two (2) others per day...

Many of you already know how quickly simple binary math (counting) gets out of hand in such calculations....

1 x 2 = 2 | x 2 = 4 | x 2 = 8 | x 2 = 16 | x 2 = 32 | x 2 = 64 | x 2 = 128 | x 2 = 256 | x 2 = 512 | x 2 = 1024 | x 2 = 2048 | x 2 = 4096 | x 2 = 8192 | x 2 = 16348 | x 2 = 32768 | x 2 = 65536 | x 2 = 131072 | etc... etc... etc... and that's only two additional contacts per potential carrier... and only for a single day.

The risk-factor computations get out of hand pretty damned fast, even in that sort of limited (2 people, 1 day) scenario, but, starting adding more contacts and multiple days to the computations, and the risk numbers start approaching the stratosphere.

That doesn't mean that we have to freak out and do the sky-is-falling thing.

But it does mean that we need to start using our common sense with respect to minimizing the number of incoming potential carriers, and acting on such common-sense concerns.

Common sense yes, hysteria, no.

I see..When YOU want to avoid it, it's "common sense"..if someone else wants to avoid it, it's "hysteria".

LMAO...right...agenda revealed.

ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz...........

Painted into a corner by your own words.... Thanks for supporting my premise.

 

[PredFan]

Would you ride in a car/plane/bus with someone who has ebola?
Would you invite them into your house?

And, given the geometric progression by which such a virus can spread, even through a lower-order physical-contact transmission vector...

How many of us can say with certainty that we have not already done so?

Just ask that school district in Ohio...

Or those thousands of passengers on that Carnival cruise liner...

If each potential carrier comes into contact with even as few as two (2) others per day...

Many of you already know how quickly simple binary math (counting) gets out of hand in such calculations....

1 x 2 = 2 | x 2 = 4 | x 2 = 8 | x 2 = 16 | x 2 = 32 | x 2 = 64 | x 2 = 128 | x 2 = 256 | x 2 = 512 | x 2 = 1024 | x 2 = 2048 | x 2 = 4096 | x 2 = 8192 | x 2 = 16348 | x 2 = 32768 | x 2 = 65536 | x 2 = 131072 | etc... etc... etc... and that's only two additional contacts per potential carrier... and only for a single day.

The risk-factor computations get out of hand pretty damned fast, even in that sort of limited (2 people, 1 day) scenario, but, starting adding more contacts and multiple days to the computations, and the risk numbers start approaching the stratosphere.

That doesn't mean that we have to freak out and do the sky-is-falling thing.

But it does mean that we need to start using our common sense with respect to minimizing the number of incoming potential carriers, and acting on such common-sense concerns.

Common sense yes, hysteria, no.

I see..When YOU want to avoid it, it's "common sense"..if someone else wants to avoid it, it's "hysteria".

LMAO...right...agenda revealed.

ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz...........

Painted into a corner by your own words.... Thanks for supporting my premise.

Is that how you interpret that moron? Funny.

 

[Rotagilla]

And, given the geometric progression by which such a virus can spread, even through a lower-order physical-contact transmission vector...

How many of us can say with certainty that we have not already done so?

Just ask that school district in Ohio...

Or those thousands of passengers on that Carnival cruise liner...

If each potential carrier comes into contact with even as few as two (2) others per day...

Many of you already know how quickly simple binary math (counting) gets out of hand in such calculations....

1 x 2 = 2 | x 2 = 4 | x 2 = 8 | x 2 = 16 | x 2 = 32 | x 2 = 64 | x 2 = 128 | x 2 = 256 | x 2 = 512 | x 2 = 1024 | x 2 = 2048 | x 2 = 4096 | x 2 = 8192 | x 2 = 16348 | x 2 = 32768 | x 2 = 65536 | x 2 = 131072 | etc... etc... etc... and that's only two additional contacts per potential carrier... and only for a single day.

The risk-factor computations get out of hand pretty damned fast, even in that sort of limited (2 people, 1 day) scenario, but, starting adding more contacts and multiple days to the computations, and the risk numbers start approaching the stratosphere.

That doesn't mean that we have to freak out and do the sky-is-falling thing.

But it does mean that we need to start using our common sense with respect to minimizing the number of incoming potential carriers, and acting on such common-sense concerns.

Common sense yes, hysteria, no.

I see..When YOU want to avoid it, it's "common sense"..if someone else wants to avoid it, it's "hysteria".

LMAO...right...agenda revealed.

ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz...........

Painted into a corner by your own words.... Thanks for supporting my premise.

Is that how you interpret that moron? Funny.

"moron"...brilliant rebuttal!
Very mature!

 

[Faun]

If you still think that the government is lying about Ebola's contagiousness, if you still think that the CDC is lying, if you still think that I've been taken over by a left wing pod person, then answer Ravi's OP question:

Why aren't there more people in Dallas infected? Why aren't the people who flew on the plane with Duncan infected? Why aren't the people who sat in the waiting room of the ER with Duncan before he was turned loose infected? Why aren't his family infected? Why aren't the EMTs that picked him up the last time infected? Why aren't all 70+ nurses, doctors, and staff who took care of Duncan as he was dying of the disease infected?

Why just two nurses? Can anyone besides me and Ravi answer that?

Including his fiance, who he slept with.

 

[PredFan]

If you still think that the government is lying about Ebola's contagiousness, if you still think that the CDC is lying, if you still think that I've been taken over by a left wing pod person, then answer Ravi's OP question:

Why aren't there more people in Dallas infected? Why aren't the people who flew on the plane with Duncan infected? Why aren't the people who sat in the waiting room of the ER with Duncan before he was turned loose infected? Why aren't his family infected? Why aren't the EMTs that picked him up the last time infected? Why aren't all 70+ nurses, doctors, and staff who took care of Duncan as he was dying of the disease infected?

Why just two nurses? Can anyone besides me and Ravi answer that?

Including his fiance, who he slept with.

I notice that no one has taken on the challenge.

 

[PredFan]

Common sense yes, hysteria, no.

I see..When YOU want to avoid it, it's "common sense"..if someone else wants to avoid it, it's "hysteria".

LMAO...right...agenda revealed.

ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz...........

Painted into a corner by your own words.... Thanks for supporting my premise.

Is that how you interpret that moron? Funny.

"moron"...brilliant rebuttal!
Very mature!

Again, you are boring me.

ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz........

 

[Rotagilla]

If you still think that the government is lying about Ebola's contagiousness, if you still think that the CDC is lying, if you still think that I've been taken over by a left wing pod person, then answer Ravi's OP question:

Why aren't there more people in Dallas infected? Why aren't the people who flew on the plane with Duncan infected? Why aren't the people who sat in the waiting room of the ER with Duncan before he was turned loose infected? Why aren't his family infected? Why aren't the EMTs that picked him up the last time infected? Why aren't all 70+ nurses, doctors, and staff who took care of Duncan as he was dying of the disease infected?

Why just two nurses? Can anyone besides me and Ravi answer that?

Including his fiance, who he slept with.

So you would sleep with someone who has ebola?...since it's not really very dangerous, and all....

 

[Theowl32]

Liberals are on here saying Ebola is no more dangerous than the common flu and you can have sex with an infected patient.

All while they laugh at us, who know there is an actual reason why 37 countries have travel bans from those regions.

That is because Ebola is no more dangerous than the common flu, which can be treated with mass doses of vitamin C and chicken soup.

The pathetic thing is how these liberals in their fucking arrogant know it all heads, believe they are the smart ones.

Pred, they are still agreeing and thanking you. The same group pred, that thinks it is perfectly ok to have sex with an infected patient and that Ebola is less serious than the common flu.

 

[Faun]

If you still think that the government is lying about Ebola's contagiousness, if you still think that the CDC is lying, if you still think that I've been taken over by a left wing pod person, then answer Ravi's OP question:

Why aren't there more people in Dallas infected? Why aren't the people who flew on the plane with Duncan infected? Why aren't the people who sat in the waiting room of the ER with Duncan before he was turned loose infected? Why aren't his family infected? Why aren't the EMTs that picked him up the last time infected? Why aren't all 70+ nurses, doctors, and staff who took care of Duncan as he was dying of the disease infected?

Why just two nurses? Can anyone besides me and Ravi answer that?

Including his fiance, who he slept with.

So you would sleep with someone who has ebola?...since it's not really very dangerous, and all....

What an insanely stupid argument. Where did I say "it's not really very dangerous?" But you should take note that it's your kind of twisted logic skills which cause you to get your ass kicked routinely in these fora.

 

[PredFan]

Liberals are on here saying Ebola is no more dangerous than the common flu and you can have sex with an infected patient.

All while they laugh at us, who know there is an actual reason why 37 countries have travel bans from those regions.

That is because Ebola is no more dangerous than the common flu, which can be treated with mass doses of vitamin C and chicken soup.

The pathetic thing is how these liberals in their fucking arrogant know it all heads, believe they are the smart ones.

Pred, they are still agreeing and thanking you. The same group pred, that thinks it is perfectly ok to have sex with an infected patient and that Ebola is less serious than the common flu.

I don't really give a rats ass what liberals think. Medicine is my life's work, my career. Microbiology and infectious diseases are a fascinating part of my job, though not the only fascinating part.

I know enough to know what's bull shit and what isn't.

I must have missed it, where did anyone say it was ok to have sex with an infected patient?

 

[AceRothstein]

Liberals are on here saying Ebola is no more dangerous than the common flu and you can have sex with an infected patient.

All while they laugh at us, who know there is an actual reason why 37 countries have travel bans from those regions.

That is because Ebola is no more dangerous than the common flu, which can be treated with mass doses of vitamin C and chicken soup.

The pathetic thing is how these liberals in their fucking arrogant know it all heads, believe they are the smart ones.

Pred, they are still agreeing and thanking you. The same group pred, that thinks it is perfectly ok to have sex with an infected patient and that Ebola is less serious than the common flu.

I don't really give a rats ass what liberals think. Medicine is my life's work, my career. Microbiology and infectious diseases are a fascinating part of my job, though not the only fascinating part.

I know enough to know what's bull shit and what isn't.

I must have missed it, where did anyone say it was ok to have sex with an infected patient?

That poster really likes to project in his/her posts.

 

[Faun]

Liberals are on here saying Ebola is no more dangerous than the common flu and you can have sex with an infected patient.

All while they laugh at us, who know there is an actual reason why 37 countries have travel bans from those regions.

That is because Ebola is no more dangerous than the common flu, which can be treated with mass doses of vitamin C and chicken soup.

The pathetic thing is how these liberals in their fucking arrogant know it all heads, believe they are the smart ones.

Pred, they are still agreeing and thanking you. The same group pred, that thinks it is perfectly ok to have sex with an infected patient and that Ebola is less serious than the common flu.

Actually, the flu kills far more people than ebola. Between 250,000 to half a million people world wide every year...

WHO Influenza Seasonal

Meanwhile, in the U.S. ebola has claimed the life of a grand total of one person. And he didn't even contract the disease here. And few of the people who came in direct contact with him contracted it.

 

[Theowl32]

Liberals are on here saying Ebola is no more dangerous than the common flu and you can have sex with an infected patient.

All while they laugh at us, who know there is an actual reason why 37 countries have travel bans from those regions.

That is because Ebola is no more dangerous than the common flu, which can be treated with mass doses of vitamin C and chicken soup.

The pathetic thing is how these liberals in their fucking arrogant know it all heads, believe they are the smart ones.

Pred, they are still agreeing and thanking you. The same group pred, that thinks it is perfectly ok to have sex with an infected patient and that Ebola is less serious than the common flu.

I don't really give a rats ass what liberals think. Medicine is my life's work, my career. Microbiology and infectious diseases are a fascinating part of my job, though not the only fascinating part.

I know enough to know what's bull shit and what isn't.

I must have missed it, where did anyone say it was ok to have sex with an infected patient?

Read the posts from the faun idiot.

Also, please stop giving me your resume. There are health ministers from France and England and the rest of the countries that have banned travel for a reason.

I showed you where doctors have not thrown out the notion that it could be air borne. Far from throwing out actually.

I have showed you how the head of the World Health Organization has also stated that. There are plenty of doctors that have your credentials or better credentials that are giving different testimony. Erring on the side of caution is not hysteria, and that is what you are saying.

Anyone that is erring on the side of caution is not necessarily hysterical. However, when we see our CDC be wrong on a consistent basis, and this fucking American hating socialist asshole in chief does not lift a fucking finger to ban travel (all for political expediency) then it will cause greater concern.

Hysteria has not happened. Perhaps you really do not what hysteria is.

What I do know is pandemics happen, and for a bunch of educated academics like the left always brag about, they sure as shit do not know history.

I know, to them there is always some new technological advance that we have now, that they did not have during the Spanish Flu. Of course, let us be careless with our approach.

Also, your comment about MOST CASES do not stay dormant for 21 days is also absurd. You know how this works, I think. If 1000 patients come in here and 20 people get past the iron wall of thermometers, that means 20 for every 1000 people coming from those countries are getting by and carrying it into the US public.

If there are 1000 people coming here a week (and that is what is coming in here) then how many infected are coming into the public over 6 months? You need a calculator?

All I do know is with all of your credentials that you are obviously very proud of and constantly shoving in our faces, you do not know all of the dangers of this disease. The most renown doctors and Ebola experts that have been studying this since the 70s do not know everything about it. Especially, how it is transmitted. They have a pretty good idea, but nothing it set in stone. Most of it is theoretical as far as them knowing ALL of the ways it is transmitted.

I am still trying to get past the fact that you claim FEMA will then get involved if and when there is an outbreak. FEMA!?!?!?!

Do you listen to yourself. By the way, there is not a "possibility" there will be an outbreak. There is a probability.

 

[Theowl32]

Liberals are on here saying Ebola is no more dangerous than the common flu and you can have sex with an infected patient.

All while they laugh at us, who know there is an actual reason why 37 countries have travel bans from those regions.

That is because Ebola is no more dangerous than the common flu, which can be treated with mass doses of vitamin C and chicken soup.

The pathetic thing is how these liberals in their fucking arrogant know it all heads, believe they are the smart ones.

Pred, they are still agreeing and thanking you. The same group pred, that thinks it is perfectly ok to have sex with an infected patient and that Ebola is less serious than the common flu.

Actually, the flu kills far more people than ebola. Between 250,000 to half a million people world wide every year...

WHO Influenza Seasonal

Meanwhile, in the U.S. ebola has claimed the life of a grand total of one person. And he didn't even contract the disease here. And few of the people who came in direct contact with him contracted it.

Yeap, you see Pred? They think Ebola is less dangerous than the common flu.

They are agreeing with you pred.

 

[boedicca]

Heh

 

[Faun]

Liberals are on here saying Ebola is no more dangerous than the common flu and you can have sex with an infected patient.

All while they laugh at us, who know there is an actual reason why 37 countries have travel bans from those regions.

That is because Ebola is no more dangerous than the common flu, which can be treated with mass doses of vitamin C and chicken soup.

The pathetic thing is how these liberals in their fucking arrogant know it all heads, believe they are the smart ones.

Pred, they are still agreeing and thanking you. The same group pred, that thinks it is perfectly ok to have sex with an infected patient and that Ebola is less serious than the common flu.

Actually, the flu kills far more people than ebola. Between 250,000 to half a million people world wide every year...

WHO Influenza Seasonal

Meanwhile, in the U.S. ebola has claimed the life of a grand total of one person. And he didn't even contract the disease here. And few of the people who came in direct contact with him contracted it.

Yeap, you see Pred? They think Ebola is less dangerous than the common flu.

They are agreeing with you pred.

As usual, your lack of reading skills lead you to erroneous conclusions. I never said the flu "is more dangerous" than ebola; I said far more people die from it. However, the mortality rate of people who contract the flu is about 10%, compared to as high as 70% for ebola victims. Still, as an airborne disease, it is much easier to catch the flu than it is ebola.

 

[PredFan]

Liberals are on here saying Ebola is no more dangerous than the common flu and you can have sex with an infected patient.

All while they laugh at us, who know there is an actual reason why 37 countries have travel bans from those regions.

That is because Ebola is no more dangerous than the common flu, which can be treated with mass doses of vitamin C and chicken soup.

The pathetic thing is how these liberals in their fucking arrogant know it all heads, believe they are the smart ones.

Pred, they are still agreeing and thanking you. The same group pred, that thinks it is perfectly ok to have sex with an infected patient and that Ebola is less serious than the common flu.

I don't really give a rats ass what liberals think. Medicine is my life's work, my career. Microbiology and infectious diseases are a fascinating part of my job, though not the only fascinating part.

I know enough to know what's bull shit and what isn't.

I must have missed it, where did anyone say it was ok to have sex with an infected patient?

Read the posts from the faun idiot.

Also, please stop giving me your resume. There are health ministers from France and England and the rest of the countries that have banned travel for a reason.

I showed you where doctors have not thrown out the notion that it could be air borne. Far from throwing out actually.

I have showed you how the head of the World Health Organization has also stated that. There are plenty of doctors that have your credentials or better credentials that are giving different testimony. Erring on the side of caution is not hysteria, and that is what you are saying.

Anyone that is erring on the side of caution is not necessarily hysterical. However, when we see our CDC be wrong on a consistent basis, and this fucking American hating socialist asshole in chief does not lift a fucking finger to ban travel (all for political expediency) then it will cause greater concern.

Hysteria has not happened. Perhaps you really do not what hysteria is.

What I do know is pandemics happen, and for a bunch of educated academics like the left always brag about, they sure as shit do not know history.

I know, to them there is always some new technological advance that we have now, that they did not have during the Spanish Flu. Of course, let us be careless with our approach.

Also, your comment about MOST CASES do not stay dormant for 21 days is also absurd. You know how this works, I think. If 1000 patients come in here and 20 people get past the iron wall of thermometers, that means 20 for every 1000 people coming from those countries are getting by and carrying it into the US public.

If there are 1000 people coming here a week (and that is what is coming in here) then how many infected are coming into the public over 6 months? You need a calculator?

All I do know is with all of your credentials that you are obviously very proud of and constantly shoving in our faces, you do not know all of the dangers of this disease. The most renown doctors and Ebola experts that have been studying this since the 70s do not know everything about it. Especially, how it is transmitted. They have a pretty good idea, but nothing it set in stone. Most of it is theoretical as far as them knowing ALL of the ways it is transmitted.

I am still trying to get past the fact that you claim FEMA will then get involved if and when there is an outbreak. FEMA!?!?!?!

Do you listen to yourself. By the way, there is not a "possibility" there will be an outbreak. There is a probability.

Again I am not your enemy, yet you can't help but throw insults.

Let me try once more to clear things up:
1. I'm FOR banning travel yet you keep claiming that I'm not.
2. The CDC has not been consistently wrong, though you keep saying they are despite the fact that I have shown you differently.
3. Erring on the side of caution is not what you are doing. You are spreading erroneous sound bites and rumors.
4. There are not 1000 people coming here a week from the infected countries. That right there, is called hysteria.
5. You again are wrong, almost every single doctor and virologist knows how it's transmitted. It's just that every time they tell you, you call them liars.
6. Yes FEMA, why not FEMA? You think that the government will miss a chance to use an outbreak to control people's lives?

Out of respect of a fellow conservative I will not return your insult. I will ask you if you can answer this one question. If I'm lying, and the CDC is lying, and the experts are lying, why hasn't there been more than 3 people in Dallas infected with Ebola?

 

[jillian]

TEN patients at Dallas Ebola apartment are classified as high risk Daily Mail Online

This makes sense. The family was whisked away. Obama keeping a lid on things until after the election

the family was taken away so the pitchfork society wouldn't be hysterical and standing in front of their door.

but yes, let's pretend it's all about the black guy in the white house, frank.