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With that one you're forgetting who you're talking to. Most conservatives around here believe an employer should have that right.
Remember, conservatives WANT to bring back discrimination. They were in fact mostly for it when it existed in the past.
Only nowadays they've tried to put it in a costume of 'freedom' or 'liberty'.
We want to bring back discrimination because we oppose you discriminating against religious people?
Oh, please climb down from your cross. Blacks were not forced to eat at lunchcounters.
Then whats stopping them from requiring everyone to say the lords prayer before work? Or have a certain diet?
Could any other owner force his beliefs on his employees in other ways? Could the owner who doesnt believe in prescription meds opt out of it all together and argue for "natural healing" methods? Could a vegan make their stores meat free? Even their employees lunches?
Where does it stop? Or a better question, WHAT makes it stop?
Hey I disagree with obamacare across the board. the "sin" argument just doesn't hold up.
It isn't about sin.
It's about the Constitution
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances
No it's about religion and arguments based on religious beliefs don't hold up.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances
[/QUOTE]It isn't about sin.
It's about the Constitution
No it's about religion and arguments based on religious beliefs don't hold up.
Again...
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances
Hey I disagree with obamacare across the board. the "sin" argument just doesn't hold up.
It isn't about sin.
It's about the Constitution
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances
No it's about religion and arguments based on religious beliefs don't hold up.
Then whats stopping them from requiring everyone to say the lords prayer before work? Or have a certain diet?
Could any other owner force his beliefs on his employees in other ways? Could the owner who doesnt believe in prescription meds opt out of it all together and argue for "natural healing" methods? Could a vegan make their stores meat free? Even their employees lunches?
Where does it stop? Or a better question, WHAT makes it stop?
How dare you belittle THE WORD OF GOD ??????
You are going to go straight to hell...you will not pass go or get 200 bucks...
It is the higher laws of god's commandment to spread THE WORD. you idjit !!!
Nevermind you that there has been no PROOF that the madness of the myth of heaven and judgement day by anyone coming back with first person account.
People who run a business should have the right to run it as crazy as they will without any respect for reason.
They are not party to it.
That's the point.
Are they party to the sins adulterers if they allow adulterers to work for them?
Are they party to homosexual sins if a gay couple comes in to buy stuff for their home?
What if a gay adulterer comes in to buy a gift for his or her bisexual lover who is also cheating on his or her spouse who happens to be an employee?
That must be especially sinful
You do when someone puts a turd in your mouth idiot
This is what I was talking about in another post: the inability to distinguish between economic influence and state power. An employer can "require" whatever they like as a condition of employment, but they can't force anyone to comply. I wish I knew of a way to make this more clear, but it seems a distinction some of you can't recognize.
Then whats stopping them from requiring everyone to say the lords prayer before work? Or have a certain diet?
Could any other owner force his beliefs on his employees in other ways? Could the owner who doesnt believe in prescription meds opt out of it all together and argue for "natural healing" methods? Could a vegan make their stores meat free? Even their employees lunches?
Where does it stop? Or a better question, WHAT makes it stop?
How dare you belittle THE WORD OF GOD ??????
You are going to go straight to hell...you will not pass go or get 200 bucks...
It is the higher laws of god's commandment to spread THE WORD. you idjit !!!
Nevermind you that there has been no PROOF that the madness of the myth of heaven and judgement day by anyone coming back with first person account.
People who run a business should have the right to run it as crazy as they will without any respect for reason.
Doesn't matter if you believe it or not. You don't have the right to force people to support things against their belief.
Why do you leftists love violence and coercion so much?
It isn't about sin.
It's about the Constitution
No it's about religion and arguments based on religious beliefs don't hold up.
Yeah cause murder isn't murder if the law approves of the act.
Its strange that you would try to turn this around 180 from what it really is.Then whats stopping them from requiring everyone to say the lords prayer before work? Or have a certain diet?
Could any other owner force his beliefs on his employees in other ways? Could the owner who doesnt believe in prescription meds opt out of it all together and argue for "natural healing" methods? Could a vegan make their stores meat free? Even their employees lunches?
Where does it stop? Or a better question, WHAT makes it stop?
Then whats stopping them from requiring everyone to say the lords prayer before work? Or have a certain diet?
Could any other owner force his beliefs on his employees in other ways? Could the owner who doesnt believe in prescription meds opt out of it all together and argue for "natural healing" methods? Could a vegan make their stores meat free? Even their employees lunches?
Where does it stop? Or a better question, WHAT makes it stop?
How dare you belittle THE WORD OF GOD ??????
You are going to go straight to hell...you will not pass go or get 200 bucks...
It is the higher laws of god's commandment to spread THE WORD. you idjit !!!
Nevermind you that there has been no PROOF that the madness of the myth of heaven and judgement day by anyone coming back with first person account.
People who run a business should have the right to run it as crazy as they will without any respect for reason.
Doesn't matter if you believe it or not. You don't have the right to force people to support things against their belief.
Why do you leftists love violence and coercion so much?
They are not party to it.
True, but you'd like to put a gun to their head and make them party to it.
That's the point.
Are they party to the sins adulterers if they allow adulterers to work for them?
No matter how hard you try, this lie simply will not fly.
Hobby Lobby is not telling a single person what they can or cannot do.
YOU want to force them to PAY for abortificants - they have said "no."
Since this isn't the totalitarian dictatorship you dream of, that's the end of the issue. You have no legal authority to force them to do your bidding.
Are they party to homosexual sins if a gay couple comes in to buy stuff for their home?
What if a gay adulterer comes in to buy a gift for his or her bisexual lover who is also cheating on his or her spouse who happens to be an employee?
That must be especially sinful
Utter nonsense that has nothing to do with the subject at hand.
I say it again, its not about abortion causing drugs its about what they BELIEVE are abortion causing drugs IN SPITE OF FACTS that say they are not.
Basically we have to all play along that their imagination is reality. If thats fine then there really is no rules. Anyone can call anything ANYTHING (as long as they are an employer)
You've said that at least five times.
You have yet to provide any evidence to back you up.
Methinks you're a lying dirtbag
Forget it, edge. All he ever does is post an article from another leftist blog (the New York Times) saying the same thing he says, which also doesn't provide any actual scientific evidence.
He seems to be hoping that repeating a lie often enough, makes it the truth.
Not what I would consider proof.You've said that at least five times.
You have yet to provide any evidence to back you up.
Methinks you're a lying dirtbag
Forget it, edge. All he ever does is post an article from another leftist blog (the New York Times) saying the same thing he says, which also doesn't provide any actual scientific evidence.
He seems to be hoping that repeating a lie often enough, makes it the truth.
That blog is the health section of the New York Times. Thanks for admitting I provided proof and then you scampered away before truth can get into your bubble
Then whats stopping them from requiring everyone to say the lords prayer before work? Or have a certain diet?
Could any other owner force his beliefs on his employees in other ways? Could the owner who doesnt believe in prescription meds opt out of it all together and argue for "natural healing" methods? Could a vegan make their stores meat free? Even their employees lunches?
Where does it stop? Or a better question, WHAT makes it stop?
Actually better questions are?
WHY should the US government compel a private company to do anything?
If you don't like your employer's policy why the fuck don't you resign?
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No it's about religion and arguments based on religious beliefs don't hold up.
Again...
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances
Tell me how paying a portion of insurance costs either A makes a law respecting the establishment of religion or B prohibits the free exercise of religion.
BTW it doesn't.
It isn't about sin.
It's about the Constitution
No it's about religion and arguments based on religious beliefs don't hold up.
Yeah cause murder isn't murder if the law approves of the act.
Abortifacient - that which will cause a miscarriage. If you give an abortifacient to a pregnant woman against her will, watch how fast you get charged with murder or attempted murder.
