If it weren't for Democrats, the following wars would have been avoided...

[S.J.]

No, the Civil War began during the Presidency of James Buchanan.

Well, if you are going to play that game, the Vietnam War began under Republican Eisenhower.

No it didn't, it started under JFK.

"In February 1954, President Eisenhower refused to commit American troops to the Franco-Vietnamese War. In a press conference he stated, "I cannot conceive of a greater tragedy for America than to get heavily involved now in an all-out war in any of those regions." By April, however, his administration revisited the question of direct intervention in the war. Though he sent no U.S. troops to the region, he authorized military aid to the French. After France surrendered to the Viet Minh, Eisenhower's administration aided anti-communist leader Ngo Dinh Diem in consolidating power in Saigon. Throughout his second term as president, Eisenhower remained committed to Diem's often-tyrannical regime.





"

That is not direct intervention. This is:
Start reading at Aug. 26, 1963 up to Kennedy's assassination.
The History Place - Vietnam War 1961-1964

 

[Reasonable]

Roosevelt made promises to keep us out of the war, promises he never intended to keep. He should have been honest, and said that if Adolph Hitler started trouble in Europe, the United States would get involved. Had Roosevelt done simply that, World War II might have been avoided, at least the European part of it.

Yeah. FDR was a terrible president. Only always rated in the top three of all presidents on polls.
Reagan never was.
Suck on that..

 

[JonKoch]

Eisenhower maintained between 750 to 1,500 troops in Vietnam as advisors between 1955 and 1960 when JFK added another 500. The first Americans to be lost in combat were lost during the Battle of Dien Bien Phu in 1954. They were air dropping supplies to French troops when their cargo aircraft was hit and crashed.

That doesn't sound like much of a war. Things didn't really get hot until Johnson was President, then it was a war.

BUT TO SECEDE STARTS A WAR CUPCAKE? lol

Of course it does.

LMAOROG, Link to a credible HISTORY site showing the date of the war Cupcake?

You are acting like it's my job to fetch things for you that you could fetch for yourself.

I linked to when the war started Cupcake:


April 12, 1861 - At 4:30 a.m. Confederates under Gen. Pierre Beauregardopen fire with 50 cannons upon Fort Sumter in Charleston, South Carolina. The Civil War begins.

The History Place - U.S. Civil War 1861-1865



April 12 – April 13, 1861


Battle Of Fort Sumter Summary: The Battle of Fort Sumter was the first battle of the American Civil War. The intense Confederate artillery bombardment of Major Robert Anderson’s small Union garrison in the unfinished fort in the harbor at Charleston, South Carolina, had been preceded by months of siege-like conditions.

Battle Of Fort Sumter | HistoryNet

April 1861
April 11 - The Confederates demand the surrender of Fort Sumter

April 12 - The Confederates in Charleston bombard Fort Sumter

This Day in the Civil War | Civil War Trust

 

[Reasonable]

...Civil War, World War I, World War II, Korean War, Vietnam War.

All these wars started under Democrat Presidents.

I noticed you didn't mention the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars that destabilized the entire Middle East to this day.

 

[Blackrook]

That doesn't sound like much of a war. Things didn't really get hot until Johnson was President, then it was a war.

BUT TO SECEDE STARTS A WAR CUPCAKE? lol

Of course it does.

LMAOROG, Link to a credible HISTORY site showing the date of the war Cupcake?

You are acting like it's my job to fetch things for you that you could fetch for yourself.

I linked to when the war started Cupcake:


April 12, 1861 - At 4:30 a.m. Confederates under Gen. Pierre Beauregardopen fire with 50 cannons upon Fort Sumter in Charleston, South Carolina. The Civil War begins.

The History Place - U.S. Civil War 1861-1865



April 12 – April 13, 1861


Battle Of Fort Sumter Summary: The Battle of Fort Sumter was the first battle of the American Civil War. The intense Confederate artillery bombardment of Major Robert Anderson’s small Union garrison in the unfinished fort in the harbor at Charleston, South Carolina, had been preceded by months of siege-like conditions.

Battle Of Fort Sumter | HistoryNet

April 1861
April 11 - The Confederates demand the surrender of Fort Sumter

April 12 - The Confederates in Charleston bombard Fort Sumter

This Day in the Civil War | Civil War Trust

The war started when South Carolina seceded from the Union.

 

[ScienceRocks]

...Civil War, World War I, World War II, Korean War, Vietnam War.

All these wars started under Democrat Presidents.

1. The democrats were southern conservatives during the civil war. The parties switched during the civil rights period in the 50's and 60's with the liberal pro-rights republicans joining the democrats and the conservative southerns joining the republican party. Must be nice to not understand history as you most certainly do.

2. WWI would of happened no matter what the United states did. Lol! Pick up a book.

3. WWII would have happened no matter what the United states did. lol! Pick up a book!

Would the outcome of those wars have been different without the united states? Maybe! Hitler may have won without us arming Stalins USSR to the teeth. Stalin threw 20 million troops at the eastern front and our armor helped keep Hitler off of Britain back. The european front was going to happen no matter. The japan front, well, do you wish FDR would have want over to Japan and sucked the emperors dick?

Korean war? Maybe you have a point...Fighting communism and all that was also a republican thing.

Vietnam...I'll give you some points hear as Kennedy and LBJ did play a huge roll in getting us into this war. Again are you anti-communist or not? Nixon also kept us in this war for another ~5 years.

What would the republicans have done if Nixon would have won instead of Kennedy in 1960? That is a interesting one. I'd think Nixon might have done very little different considering he was also anti-communist.

World war II would of never happened if it was for Woodrow Wilson and the league of Nations / treaty of Versailles



.

You make a good point...If Germany would have gotten a fair surrender deal maybe Hitler wouldn't have rode to power off the anger of the German people.

 

[Blackrook]

...Civil War, World War I, World War II, Korean War, Vietnam War.

All these wars started under Democrat Presidents.

I noticed you didn't mention the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars that destabilized the entire Middle East to this day.

Yes, George W. Bush started wars. He got seduced by the neoconservatives.

 

[JonKoch]

No, the Civil War began during the Presidency of James Buchanan.

Well, if you are going to play that game, the Vietnam War began under Republican Eisenhower.

No it didn't, it started under JFK.

"In February 1954, President Eisenhower refused to commit American troops to the Franco-Vietnamese War. In a press conference he stated, "I cannot conceive of a greater tragedy for America than to get heavily involved now in an all-out war in any of those regions." By April, however, his administration revisited the question of direct intervention in the war. Though he sent no U.S. troops to the region, he authorized military aid to the French. After France surrendered to the Viet Minh, Eisenhower's administration aided anti-communist leader Ngo Dinh Diem in consolidating power in Saigon. Throughout his second term as president, Eisenhower remained committed to Diem's often-tyrannical regime.





"

That is not direct intervention. This is:
Start reading at Aug. 26, 1963 up to Kennedy's assassination.
The History Place - Vietnam War 1961-1964

Your place Cupcake:

1953

January 20, 1953 - Dwight D. Eisenhower, former five-star Army general and Allied commander in Europe during World War II, is inaugurated as the 34th U.S. President.

During his term, Eisenhower will greatly increase U.S. military aid to the French in Vietnam to prevent a Communist victory. U.S. military advisors will continue to accompany American supplies sent to Vietnam.To justify America's financial commitment, Eisenhower will cite a 'Domino Theory' in which a Communist victory in Vietnam would result in surrounding countries falling one after another like a "falling row of dominoes." The Domino Theory will be used by a succession of Presidents and their advisors to justify ever-deepening U.S. involvement in Vietnam.

1955

January 1955 - The first direct shipment of U.S. military aid to Saigon arrives. The U.S. also offers to train the fledgling South Vietnam Army.

October 23, 1955 - Bao Dai is ousted from power, defeated by Prime Minister Diem in a U.S.-backed plebiscite which was rigged. Diem is advised on consolidating power by U.S. Air Force Col. Edward G. Lansdale, who is attached to the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).


October 26, 1955 - The Republic of South Vietnam is proclaimed with Diem as its first president. In America, President Eisenhower pledges his support for the new government and offers military aid.


July 8, 1959 - Two U.S. military advisors, Maj. Dale Buis and Sgt. Chester Ovnand, are killed by Viet Minh guerrillas at Bien Hoa, South Vietnam. They are the first American deaths in the Second Indochina War which Americans will come to know simply as The Vietnam War.

The History Place - Vietnam War 1945-1960

 

[Rambunctious]

Civil War, World War I, World War II, Korean War, Vietnam War.

All these wars started under Democrat Presidents.

And so was today's wars with Islamic extremism because of weak leadership from Clinton and Obama and also Bush 1 and Bush 2. I hope and pray that Trump doesn't buckle at the waist like the Bush's are famous for. It's time to dust off the big bombs and get this FUBAR over with.

 

[JonKoch]

Roosevelt made promises to keep us out of the war, promises he never intended to keep. He should have been honest, and said that if Adolph Hitler started trouble in Europe, the United States would get involved. Had Roosevelt done simply that, World War II might have been avoided, at least the European part of it.

Yeah. FDR was a terrible president. Only always rated in the top three of all presidents on polls.
Reagan never was.
Suck on that..

 

[Rambunctious]

Roosevelt made promises to keep us out of the war, promises he never intended to keep. He should have been honest, and said that if Adolph Hitler started trouble in Europe, the United States would get involved. Had Roosevelt done simply that, World War II might have been avoided, at least the European part of it.

Yeah. FDR was a terrible president. Only always rated in the top three of all presidents on polls.
Reagan never was.
Suck on that..

Hindsight dufuss

 

[JonKoch]

BUT TO SECEDE STARTS A WAR CUPCAKE? lol

Of course it does.

LMAOROG, Link to a credible HISTORY site showing the date of the war Cupcake?

You are acting like it's my job to fetch things for you that you could fetch for yourself.

I linked to when the war started Cupcake:


April 12, 1861 - At 4:30 a.m. Confederates under Gen. Pierre Beauregardopen fire with 50 cannons upon Fort Sumter in Charleston, South Carolina. The Civil War begins.

The History Place - U.S. Civil War 1861-1865



April 12 – April 13, 1861


Battle Of Fort Sumter Summary: The Battle of Fort Sumter was the first battle of the American Civil War. The intense Confederate artillery bombardment of Major Robert Anderson’s small Union garrison in the unfinished fort in the harbor at Charleston, South Carolina, had been preceded by months of siege-like conditions.

Battle Of Fort Sumter | HistoryNet

April 1861
April 11 - The Confederates demand the surrender of Fort Sumter

April 12 - The Confederates in Charleston bombard Fort Sumter

This Day in the Civil War | Civil War Trust

The war started when South Carolina seceded from the Union.

Gave you three history site links Cupcake, you give opinion. Tough choice there

 

[Camp]

...Civil War, World War I, World War II, Korean War, Vietnam War.

All these wars started under Democrat Presidents.

1. The democrats were southern conservatives during the civil war. The parties switched during the civil rights period in the 50's and 60's with the liberal pro-rights republicans joining the democrats and the conservative southerns joining the republican party. Must be nice to not understand history as you most certainly do.

2. WWI would of happened no matter what the United states did. Lol! Pick up a book.

3. WWII would have happened no matter what the United states did. lol! Pick up a book!

Would the outcome of those wars have been different without the united states? Maybe! Hitler may have won without us arming Stalins USSR to the teeth. Stalin threw 20 million troops at the eastern front and our armor helped keep Hitler off of Britain back. The european front was going to happen no matter. The japan front, well, do you wish FDR would have want over to Japan and sucked the emperors dick?

Korean war? Maybe you have a point...Fighting communism and all that was also a republican thing.

Vietnam...I'll give you some points hear as Kennedy and LBJ did play a huge roll in getting us into this war. Again are you anti-communist or not? Nixon also kept us in this war for another ~5 years.

What would the republicans have done if Nixon would have won instead of Kennedy in 1960? That is a interesting one. I'd think Nixon might have done very little different considering he was also anti-communist.

World war II would of never happened if it wasnt for Woodrow Wilson and the league of Nations / treaty of Versailles



.

WWII in Europe was caused by the rise of totalitarian dictators in Europe. That was caused by the global Great Depression caused by Republican Presidents of the 20's and first few years of the 30's. WWII in the Pacific was caused by Republican Presidents of the 20's allowing American businesses to feed the Japanese war machine that waged war on its neighbors.
Republicans notoriously create the messes that lead to war.

 

[JonKoch]

Roosevelt made promises to keep us out of the war, promises he never intended to keep. He should have been honest, and said that if Adolph Hitler started trouble in Europe, the United States would get involved. Had Roosevelt done simply that, World War II might have been avoided, at least the European part of it.

Yeah. FDR was a terrible president. Only always rated in the top three of all presidents on polls.
Reagan never was.
Suck on that..

Hindsight dufuss

 

[Blackrook]

Democratic candidates Woodrow Wilson and FDR promised American neutrality in the event of war, which emboldened our enemies, resulting in war.

 

[Blackrook]

Roosevelt made promises to keep us out of the war, promises he never intended to keep. He should have been honest, and said that if Adolph Hitler started trouble in Europe, the United States would get involved. Had Roosevelt done simply that, World War II might have been avoided, at least the European part of it.

Yeah. FDR was a terrible president. Only always rated in the top three of all presidents on polls.
Reagan never was.
Suck on that..

Hindsight dufuss

It was a good decision. We had no reason to be stationing troops in Lebanon at that time.

 

[JonKoch]

Democratic candidates Woodrow Wilson and FDR promised American neutrality in the event of war, which emboldened our enemies, resulting in war.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

...Civil War, World War I, World War II, Korean War, Vietnam War.

All these wars started under Democrat Presidents.

The Civil War started under Lincoln, who as far as I can tell was a Republican.

Who seceded from the Union and fired on Fort Sumter ? What party did the President of the CSA belong to ? I'll give you a hint it rhymes with sociopath.

The CONservative CONfederate States of AmeriKKKa, today's GOP base Cupcake?

Historical revisionism a time honored and repulsive tradition with the left. The Democrats of yesterday were as Liberal as they are today. It was a liberal interpretation of the Constitution that caused slavery to last so long in this nation. It also gave us segregation, and Jim Crow laws. Todays Liberals don't use a whip and shackles to force people into line, they use more subtle things like the promise of ever increasing entitlements, claims of victimhood and government control. All of these things are just a new form of slavery and you Liberals are neck deep in that sewer.

 

[S.J.]

No, the Civil War began during the Presidency of James Buchanan.

Well, if you are going to play that game, the Vietnam War began under Republican Eisenhower.

No it didn't, it started under JFK.

"In February 1954, President Eisenhower refused to commit American troops to the Franco-Vietnamese War. In a press conference he stated, "I cannot conceive of a greater tragedy for America than to get heavily involved now in an all-out war in any of those regions." By April, however, his administration revisited the question of direct intervention in the war. Though he sent no U.S. troops to the region, he authorized military aid to the French. After France surrendered to the Viet Minh, Eisenhower's administration aided anti-communist leader Ngo Dinh Diem in consolidating power in Saigon. Throughout his second term as president, Eisenhower remained committed to Diem's often-tyrannical regime.





"

That is not direct intervention. This is:
Start reading at Aug. 26, 1963 up to Kennedy's assassination.
The History Place - Vietnam War 1961-1964

Your place Cupcake:

1953

January 20, 1953 - Dwight D. Eisenhower, former five-star Army general and Allied commander in Europe during World War II, is inaugurated as the 34th U.S. President.

During his term, Eisenhower will greatly increase U.S. military aid to the French in Vietnam to prevent a Communist victory. U.S. military advisors will continue to accompany American supplies sent to Vietnam.To justify America's financial commitment, Eisenhower will cite a 'Domino Theory' in which a Communist victory in Vietnam would result in surrounding countries falling one after another like a "falling row of dominoes." The Domino Theory will be used by a succession of Presidents and their advisors to justify ever-deepening U.S. involvement in Vietnam.

1955

January 1955 - The first direct shipment of U.S. military aid to Saigon arrives. The U.S. also offers to train the fledgling South Vietnam Army.

October 23, 1955 - Bao Dai is ousted from power, defeated by Prime Minister Diem in a U.S.-backed plebiscite which was rigged. Diem is advised on consolidating power by U.S. Air Force Col. Edward G. Lansdale, who is attached to the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).


October 26, 1955 - The Republic of South Vietnam is proclaimed with Diem as its first president. In America, President Eisenhower pledges his support for the new government and offers military aid.


July 8, 1959 - Two U.S. military advisors, Maj. Dale Buis and Sgt. Chester Ovnand, are killed by Viet Minh guerrillas at Bien Hoa, South Vietnam. They are the first American deaths in the Second Indochina War which Americans will come to know simply as The Vietnam War.

The History Place - Vietnam War 1945-1960

I heard an American visiting there during the Truman administration died in a car accident while in Vietnam. Does that mean Truman actually got us involved in Vietnam? How many hairs are you going to split? Eisenhower did not attack Vietnam. Johnson did, and Kennedy was on the verge of it when he was popped in Dallas. Face it, twinkletoes, Democrats start wars. BTW, who was president when the troops were brought home from the jungle?

 

[S.J.]

Roosevelt made promises to keep us out of the war, promises he never intended to keep. He should have been honest, and said that if Adolph Hitler started trouble in Europe, the United States would get involved. Had Roosevelt done simply that, World War II might have been avoided, at least the European part of it.

Yeah. FDR was a terrible president. Only always rated in the top three of all presidents on polls.
Reagan never was.
Suck on that..

That was not a war, dumbass. It was a rescue mission.